Its brilliant that you have added awkward maneuvers to the video, it really shows the amazing progress this technology has made. Love the work you do, please keep posting thanks
When there's nothing to report still, you could do videos about Mercedes "light-years ahead of Tesla full Level 3 autonomy" system. Pretty sure that's enough to fill this channel for years and years to come ;)
Yes. Please do. Start a gofundme we will all pitch in to have you buy the most advanced fsd car on the market so we can see some actual footage by you.
this is just an ignorant anti-Tesla comment. Two things, 1) the companies are taking different strategies. 2) Mercedes system can only handle specific situations and will refuse to drive certain situations that Tesla can do. Doubt Mercedes will pass this stress test as well as the Tesla.
... and I also agree with you 100% that Tesla has the data to do its own mapping and that mapping would only get better as the fleet communicates with each other
Unfortunately will almost certainly be impossible until too late with HW3 1.2MP cameras to read traffic signs (as opposed to identifying object patterns, which it does now). Elon said that if HW3 computers needed to be upgraded for unsupervised FSD, the existing cameras would still be ok. I disagree for this reason
@@timepstein274 I think that part should be possible. If you can look at the picture from the camera and read the sign, a computer can ideally do it better.
Somebody else has a patent on cars reading signs, which is why it has been such a problem for Tesla. They could still train it on common signs, though, without having the car learn to read the sign, just recognize the pattern.
Thumbs up from every European watching this, having the feeling that a) our automotive industry will get smacked and b) feels that everyone around you is not paying attention to what is about to happen. Thanks AI DRIVR for helping to open some eyes at least. Truly appreciated.
@@IdiomatickWhat's your Math on that? I don't expect to see such a reduction in total vehicle numbers. More like everyone will want to go everywhere with a robotaxi because it's cheap and comfortable.
@@Ample17 Greater vehicle utilization rates. A lot of people will drop car ownership and just use robotaxis to save money, and that will require less vehicles. Like your car might be driving 5% of the time but a taxi will be more like 25%+ of the time.
@@Idiomatick I thought your reason was going to be more "efficient driving" with FSD vehicles on the road. For instance, if the car directly in front of you is using FSD too, then you could "tail gate" them safely, right? Imagine 10 FSD cars in a row all about 1 meter apart going 60mph! In the SF movie "Until the End of the World", there's a scene of an intersection without lights since everyone knows where everyone else is. Is FSD the start of that? EDIT: You were talking about the number of vehicles on the road, not how efficient they move. Oh well ...
Definitely need better map data. Would love a public system. I have multiple roads near a family member that are unmapped. It defaults to 25mph and will try to nav 20 minutes around a 1 mile stretch of an unknown road.
I test drove one on 12.5 and their maps service didn’t show a road that was closed that showed up on both Apple Maps and Google maps as closed and had clearly been closed for quite a long time and it wasn’t even some minor road. FSD tried to continue despite the road being ripped up in a bunch of do not enter signs.
20:27 , Honestly, when there's no steering wheel and you want to go down that street, you should be able to tell it, "Wait Wait turn right! Go down that street!" So I think that disengagement is totally valid.
Yes I found it very weird what he said, pedestrians at a crosswalk have priority PERIOD. No matter what, the car must stop. If the car would've continued trough it would be a dangerous situation and he would be liable. EDIT: at around 28:06 the car just plainly cuts off the pedestrians on the crosswalk, in Belgium that would've definitely gotten you a very dirty look, I don't know if pedestrians in the US are just used to this kind of behaviour?
Would love to see you in faster moving traffic. You show the outstanding slower, less traffic environments. Maybe get to some busier, faster traffic environments. Thanks for what you do.
As always, @AIDRIVR I drop everything and watch when your videos drop. Thanks again for great commentary and putting the car in difficult situations. to show off the new abilities of 13.2.! Very much appreciated!
This was one of your very best videos. I loved the fact that you gave us some great examples of challenging situations to illustrate the capability of V13 and your commentary is, I think, the best on TH-cam (sorry DirtyTesla, you are a close 2nd). Keep on doing these, please
33:00 the light turned yellow and the car was in the intersection, that felt like the right move from them to clear out. I wonder what FSD would have done
Very impressive, once again! I’ve been bullish on TSLA for a long time, but right now, I feel hyped. It feels a bit weird to say that, but it’s just true-and not just because of the jump in the stock price. The future for Tesla, whether it’s vehicles, energy, FSD, or Optimus, all seems extremely exciting to me.
The car needs to be able to read more traffic signs and prioritize them over the navigational route and then could update the navigation software on the fly. And when you or any other Tesla drives the same route again it shouldn't even offer the "wrong" route. So using it's cars Tesla could easily update the navigation software countrywide in almost realtime. Nobody else can do this.
An in-house mapping service wouldn’t solve issues like this unless the fleet can recognize these signs and update the map. Humans can’t see turn restrictions from satellite view unless there are painted arrows and even then sometimes vehicles or shadows will obscure the arrows. FSD will have to recognize signs like no left turn or no turn on red.
Sure, that's exactly what they should do. Recognizing basics signs, like no turn on red, do not enter, one-way street, etc with computer vision is very doable technology wise nowdays (maybe not patent wise). They could definitely run that inference on the car.
12:28 i think the car to the left continued forward because they noticed you weren't going, even though the car across from you was going straight. In situations like that, it would be more human-like for FSD to notice that the car across from you is going straight and for it to continue before that car to the left even had a chance to go.
OUTSTANDING FSD Video!!! I really like the downtown San Francisco drives -- they really show how good FSD is and at the same time point-out areas needing improvement. Before FSD I thought AI was BS and only another fancy name for optimized database lookups. FSD is showing us what AI is and how 'human like' it is FSD may be ELON's corner-stone accomplishment.
Thanks for always providing us with such quality content. Patiently waiting for V13. Got excited yesterday when my update icon appeared but it was just 12.5.6.4.
5:15 - But is it a "mapping" error or is it that the car cannot read those signs? I go back and forth on that issue. Sometimes it seems like it can read signs and at other times it completely ignores signs. Tesla maps?? Maybe in many places, but I'm sure there are a lot of roads in the U.S. that no Tesla has yet driven.
I agree about the navigation and maps, but as a transportation engineer/researcher analyzing and creating maps everyday (mostly on OpenStreetMap), I can tell you that it is way more difficult to do that. Mapping restrictions like no-turn on red, or no u-turn must be coded consistently and be updated regularly, and this is still labor intensive. Maybe AI will be able to help us in the near future, parsing millions of streetview/car recorded images, but right now, it must be done manually, at least during the validation process.
Wow, reversing is huge, amazing progress. BTW, you can hit Vermont Street instead of Lombard for the windiest street test. Same deal fewer tourists. No need to add to that whole nightmare.
And very American. The main reason is that you are looking left for a gap in the traffic, ready to floor it, while the potential pedestrian in that crosswalk to your right is looking for the same gap in traffic. FSD sees the pedestrian WHILE looking for the gap in traffic.
I know what you mean, with the noise it made as well, I thought the car had hit/scraped something! Had to skip back and watch it again to realise it was just a bump lol
@shocktreatmentgaming Sarcasm-got it. But let me tell you why you're actually correct. Of course you won't believe it, because I can already tell you're not the sort to allow actual facts to dissuade you from your preconceived and baseless notions. You and your FUD-spreading ilk seem blissfully unaware that human drivers kill >42,000 of our friends, neighbors and loved ones each and every year, in the U.S. alone. These deaths are mostly caused by dangerous behavior, including texting while driving; other distracted driving; drunk and drug-impaired driving; road rage; fatigue; falling asleep at the wheel; medical emergencies; running red/yellow lights and stop signs; wrong-way driving; following too closely; unsafe lane changes; speeding; street racing; reckless driving; loss of control; and probably several other categories I haven't thought of. FSD and other ADASs and ADSs rarely if ever exhibit *any* of these behaviors; yet your crowd seems unwilling to consider even the possibility that widespread adoption of FSD or its counterparts might actually reduce the loss of lives and property by virtually eliminating all of these dangerous behaviors. And it might be one of your friends, neighbors or loved ones whose life would be saved as a result.
Not defending the navigation errors, but for added context, San Francisco in just the last few months has put up a lot of new No Right On Red signs and No Turn signs to hopefully improve pedestrian safety. I doubt any mapping service will be updated for them, although I hear your point about Tesla's opportunity to do so in near real time with onboard cameras.
As a touriste many years away, I did drive down Lombard and it wasn’t much a deal with my Honda Civic, but in my remembrance, SF traffic was much heavier than your drives. Let make a road trip to Montreal next summer and try real traffic (same as NYC but with a French taste)
15:40 He was wearing faded paint pants with a garbage can black hoodie. Great image to put on a driving test, “How many pedestrians are waiting to cross the intersection?”
Agreed on the navigation errors, I've seen plenty of them. I'm in Colorado for reference. I also think it's very likely Tesla starts doing more fleet sourced mapping, although it may not be very obvious to us. They may just start trialing this in the background and apply corrections to their existing map data. That said, if the focus is SF and TX robotaxis then they don't need national-wide fleet sourced map updates in the short term. So we'll see, maybe it's not a top priority.
Great video. Can't wait for v13.2.x. How the car behaves to high beams or simply the car stopping is significant. I often have an instance of flashing high beams on many of my drives. Since v12.5.6.4 always waits for the car to come to a full stop it's likely the other car will flash a 2nd time or start waving at me. That is why FSD needs to respond quickly to the flashing lights as long as FSD can see the environment around the other car. Waiting annoys the other driver but it's not that big of a deal.
I’ve felt the needed to have their own map annotation for some time. Especially since 12.5. 90% of my disengagements are due to bad routes. Like taking the “shortest” path to an unprotected left into a major 4 lane road when one street over has a stoplight. Could also annotate for bad visibility at intersections to make them less preferred in planning.
5:09 So they didn’t announce an in-house mapping service at the robot event. But at the Dojo release event, they hypothesized using all Tesla cameras to build virtual digital environments from real ones, and run FSD simulations against their virtual environments, controlling for weather and other obstacles. Tesla seems to have a monopoly on road telemetry data, and they intend to use it by using cam data to build these environments.
Great video. Nowadays I just watch them to reminisce my days in the city with friends. Regarding the reactionary behaviour to the lights and hand gesture, I would love to one day have Tesla react to someone flipping the bird!
There is always someone that throws out the "unsafe driver" statement whenever FSD sees something the driver didn't. It is a subtle way of switching the achievement of FSD to the incompetent driver.
Doesn’t need maps if it can read the signs and lane markings. In fact, I thought that’s been the argument for a while now about not needing HD Maps like the competitors. 🤔
As a human driver from your neck of the woods, I find it almost impossible to drive around SF without at least a couple of awkward maneuvers! Version 13 is astonishing in its ability, but I don’t think it’ll be robo-taxi ready until it learns to read, understand, and react correctly to traffic signs. Keep making videos until it correctly and consistently reacts to signs that say stuff like “No left turn 7-10 am M-F”.
It would be nice to see how weather affects this, during my trial of v12 with light rain it started driving on the wrong side of the road into incoming traffic
I feel like the self driving is far better than me in the city. And I feel comfortable with it getting close to things, it can see everything, it knows how big it is, so it should be able to get close, like, an inch away and be fine, right? As a human we don't have eyes on the outside of the car.
A few things to the guy at 15:41. 1. Its a lot easier to see him ofc if you warn us that something is going to happen so thats a pretty common spot. 2. To all of those meaning people not seeing that are terrible drivers and they saw it immediately, well we got the overview from behind which literally has no blind spots. I guess the view from inside the car is a whole lot different. And we don't even have to turn our necks. so... Would I have seen him without warning if I paid attention? Yea sure. In the video I got 3rd Person view so how could I miss that. In case I was driving? I don't know.
Navigation here in rural New Mexico is mostly okay but it has some really brain farts. For example, it still does not know how to drive to my grocery store. Also 12.5.4 doesn't check for traffic at stop signs which is very unsafe.
I think Tesla might use Open Street Map data? Which is like Wikipedia for maps, you can go in and see all three signs and leave information and make changes. I've made a couple snack corrections on tricky intersections near me, to see if that helps.
This was extremely impressive even if the occasional hickups. But please never stop making these driving videos. Its good entertainment, and will remain highly educational for as long as there are still people out there doubting Tesla self driving systems. Although maybe one day you'll have to get more innovative with the content to stay relevant... what about a video titled "can my Tesla find its way across this desert while I sleep?" once it's level 5?
Make a right onto Lombard is not allowed, driver error. Can't make a left either from the opposite direction, this is to prevent queue cutting onto Lombard and down it.
I’m still seeing horrific behavior with closed lanes. The car goes by a sign announcing the right lane is closed ahead without notice. Then it blows past a blinking arrow pointing left. Even with every other car on the road shifted left, my Model 3 hugs the cones in the right lane, not even starting to move until the cones impinge almost to the midlane. This repeatedly means the car crowds drivers on the left or ends up slamming the brakes, stuck at the cones and waiting for an opening
even tho teslacam is a thing, you should get an aftermarket viofo so when the battery runs out on the gopro you can switch to the dashcamera, a viofo a119 mini 2 would be a great example
Its brilliant that you have added awkward maneuvers to the video, it really shows the amazing progress this technology has made. Love the work you do, please keep posting thanks
18:18 - 18:21
FSD outward appearance "beep boop"
FSD internal monologue: aAHAHHASDHAHFDSAHFHASDFGSA WTFWTFWTF
lmao. Perfect summary of that craziness.
When there's nothing to report still, you could do videos about Mercedes "light-years ahead of Tesla full Level 3 autonomy" system. Pretty sure that's enough to fill this channel for years and years to come ;)
Yup, who wants to drive >40 MPH anyway?
Yes. Please do. Start a gofundme we will all pitch in to have you buy the most advanced fsd car on the market so we can see some actual footage by you.
Except no one will want to watch the Mercedes clips
@@thomasreese2816 Eh, if he gets into some solid ass side by sides and general comparisons, it'll be content
this is just an ignorant anti-Tesla comment. Two things, 1) the companies are taking different strategies. 2) Mercedes system can only handle specific situations and will refuse to drive certain situations that Tesla can do. Doubt Mercedes will pass this stress test as well as the Tesla.
... and I also agree with you 100% that Tesla has the data to do its own mapping and that mapping would only get better as the fleet communicates with each other
It’s next triumph is actually reading traffic signs
I imagine reading them is easy, but applying them in context is difficult.
Unfortunately will almost certainly be impossible until too late with HW3 1.2MP cameras to read traffic signs (as opposed to identifying object patterns, which it does now).
Elon said that if HW3 computers needed to be upgraded for unsupervised FSD, the existing cameras would still be ok. I disagree for this reason
@@timepstein274 I think that part should be possible. If you can look at the picture from the camera and read the sign, a computer can ideally do it better.
May not be possible till HW5.
Somebody else has a patent on cars reading signs, which is why it has been such a problem for Tesla. They could still train it on common signs, though, without having the car learn to read the sign, just recognize the pattern.
Thumbs up from every European watching this, having the feeling that a) our automotive industry will get smacked and b) feels that everyone around you is not paying attention to what is about to happen. Thanks AI DRIVR for helping to open some eyes at least. Truly appreciated.
Everyone's will get smacked. Fully self driving means you need like 30% fewer vehicles.
@@IdiomatickWhat's your Math on that? I don't expect to see such a reduction in total vehicle numbers. More like everyone will want to go everywhere with a robotaxi because it's cheap and comfortable.
@@Ample17 Greater vehicle utilization rates. A lot of people will drop car ownership and just use robotaxis to save money, and that will require less vehicles. Like your car might be driving 5% of the time but a taxi will be more like 25%+ of the time.
@@Idiomatick I thought your reason was going to be more "efficient driving" with FSD vehicles on the road. For instance, if the car directly in front of you is using FSD too, then you could "tail gate" them safely, right? Imagine 10 FSD cars in a row all about 1 meter apart going 60mph! In the SF movie "Until the End of the World", there's a scene of an intersection without lights since everyone knows where everyone else is. Is FSD the start of that? EDIT: You were talking about the number of vehicles on the road, not how efficient they move. Oh well ...
Nice to see the ol USA taking the lead in something beneficial to humanity instead of just threatening everyone with military retaliation.
Definitely need better map data. Would love a public system.
I have multiple roads near a family member that are unmapped. It defaults to 25mph and will try to nav 20 minutes around a 1 mile stretch of an unknown road.
I test drove one on 12.5 and their maps service didn’t show a road that was closed that showed up on both Apple Maps and Google maps as closed and had clearly been closed for quite a long time and it wasn’t even some minor road. FSD tried to continue despite the road being ripped up in a bunch of do not enter signs.
20:27 , Honestly, when there's no steering wheel and you want to go down that street, you should be able to tell it, "Wait Wait turn right! Go down that street!" So I think that disengagement is totally valid.
Pretty Impressive. I hope we get FSD 13 with the Holiday update for HW4 vehicles.
Lucky You. I have a 22 MYP but I have HW3. I have heard I'm at the end of my FSD capability.
LETS F*CKING GO, NEW AIDRIVR VIDEO
Nice video. Normal routes are too easy for FSD now so I appreciate seeing videos that pushes its capabilities
Letting the pedestrians pass the crosswalk was a must! Standing on the intersection is secondary.
Yeah, that seemed fine to me.
Yes I found it very weird what he said, pedestrians at a crosswalk have priority PERIOD. No matter what, the car must stop. If the car would've continued trough it would be a dangerous situation and he would be liable.
EDIT: at around 28:06 the car just plainly cuts off the pedestrians on the crosswalk, in Belgium that would've definitely gotten you a very dirty look, I don't know if pedestrians in the US are just used to this kind of behaviour?
@@ernestcarpentier Yes, we are
Would love to see you in faster moving traffic. You show the outstanding slower, less traffic environments. Maybe get to some busier, faster traffic environments. Thanks for what you do.
19:00 - Tight maneuvering was excellent. Well done !
As always, @AIDRIVR I drop everything and watch when your videos drop. Thanks again for great commentary and putting the car in difficult situations. to show off the new abilities of 13.2.! Very much appreciated!
This was one of your very best videos. I loved the fact that you gave us some great examples of challenging situations to illustrate the capability of V13 and your commentary is, I think, the best on TH-cam (sorry DirtyTesla, you are a close 2nd). Keep on doing these, please
2 videos in one week, Christmas came early!!!!!
33:00 the light turned yellow and the car was in the intersection, that felt like the right move from them to clear out. I wonder what FSD would have done
Very impressive, once again! I’ve been bullish on TSLA for a long time, but right now, I feel hyped. It feels a bit weird to say that, but it’s just true-and not just because of the jump in the stock price. The future for Tesla, whether it’s vehicles, energy, FSD, or Optimus, all seems extremely exciting to me.
Optimus? Seriously? If you're interested in robotics, there are many legit companies out there that do not lie about their robots.
@@leuvenfra 🤣🤣🤣
The car needs to be able to read more traffic signs and prioritize them over the navigational route and then could update the navigation software on the fly. And when you or any other Tesla drives the same route again it shouldn't even offer the "wrong" route. So using it's cars Tesla could easily update the navigation software countrywide in almost realtime. Nobody else can do this.
Awesome video, I'm even more impressed by v13 now! Can't wait for it to come to Europe some day 😊
An in-house mapping service wouldn’t solve issues like this unless the fleet can recognize these signs and update the map. Humans can’t see turn restrictions from satellite view unless there are painted arrows and even then sometimes vehicles or shadows will obscure the arrows. FSD will have to recognize signs like no left turn or no turn on red.
Sure, that's exactly what they should do. Recognizing basics signs, like no turn on red, do not enter, one-way street, etc with computer vision is very doable technology wise nowdays (maybe not patent wise). They could definitely run that inference on the car.
12:28 i think the car to the left continued forward because they noticed you weren't going, even though the car across from you was going straight. In situations like that, it would be more human-like for FSD to notice that the car across from you is going straight and for it to continue before that car to the left even had a chance to go.
Not illegal to cross a single solid line. That's just not recommended. It's illegal to cross a double solid white or yellow line.
depends on state - in NJ it is illegal to cross a single solid line
@@winnerdanny7doesn’t that suck.
OUTSTANDING FSD Video!!! I really like the downtown San Francisco drives -- they really show how good FSD is and at the same time point-out areas needing improvement. Before FSD I thought AI was BS and only another fancy name for optimized database lookups. FSD is showing us what AI is and how 'human like' it is FSD may be ELON's corner-stone accomplishment.
Thanks for always providing us with such quality content. Patiently waiting for V13. Got excited yesterday when my update icon appeared but it was just 12.5.6.4.
"Wow I can't believe you hit the brake for no right on red. I always turn right anyway at those so you should not have intervened"
5:15 - But is it a "mapping" error or is it that the car cannot read those signs? I go back and forth on that issue. Sometimes it seems like it can read signs and at other times it completely ignores signs.
Tesla maps?? Maybe in many places, but I'm sure there are a lot of roads in the U.S. that no Tesla has yet driven.
It can't
I would not have let it get so close the boom gate at the end, you got some courage mate!
"Angry comments to drive up the engagement rate" -- That really cracked me up.
24:12 Valet realising that this technology will end his career...
Wow that looks really good. Nav
Is an easy problem to solve compared to what they’ve already done. Incredible
I agree about the navigation and maps, but as a transportation engineer/researcher analyzing and creating maps everyday (mostly on OpenStreetMap), I can tell you that it is way more difficult to do that. Mapping restrictions like no-turn on red, or no u-turn must be coded consistently and be updated regularly, and this is still labor intensive. Maybe AI will be able to help us in the near future, parsing millions of streetview/car recorded images, but right now, it must be done manually, at least during the validation process.
19:40 Oh Yeah!
Wow, reversing is huge, amazing progress.
BTW, you can hit Vermont Street instead of Lombard for the windiest street test. Same deal fewer tourists. No need to add to that whole nightmare.
Angry comment for engagement!!!! 😆
“… Straight through that wall like the Kool-Aid man“ is an amazing analogy! You are so clever!
What a time to be alive, holy shit. Love your videos, please stick around here, we love you!!!
Right turns in red across a crosswalk are incredibly dangerous
And very American. The main reason is that you are looking left for a gap in the traffic, ready to floor it, while the potential pedestrian in that crosswalk to your right is looking for the same gap in traffic. FSD sees the pedestrian WHILE looking for the gap in traffic.
@geirmyrvagnes8718 exactly!
1:15 That sudden shake actually scared the shit out of me lol
You’re jumpy!
Me too. And true I am very jumpy these days
That's pretty weird
I know what you mean, with the noise it made as well, I thought the car had hit/scraped something! Had to skip back and watch it again to realise it was just a bump lol
Love these V13 videos. Please keep em comin
12:50. People crossing the crosswalk trusting that two self driving cars don't hit them.
They're much more likely to be hit by human-driven cars, than self-driving cars.
@@BigBen621 Oh yes for sure. Self driving cars are a ton safer.
@shocktreatmentgaming Sarcasm-got it. But let me tell you why you're actually correct. Of course you won't believe it, because I can already tell you're not the sort to allow actual facts to dissuade you from your preconceived and baseless notions.
You and your FUD-spreading ilk seem blissfully unaware that human drivers kill >42,000 of our friends, neighbors and loved ones each and every year, in the U.S. alone. These deaths are mostly caused by dangerous behavior, including texting while driving; other distracted driving; drunk and drug-impaired driving; road rage; fatigue; falling asleep at the wheel; medical emergencies; running red/yellow lights and stop signs; wrong-way driving; following too closely; unsafe lane changes; speeding; street racing; reckless driving; loss of control; and probably several other categories I haven't thought of. FSD and other ADASs and ADSs rarely if ever exhibit *any* of these behaviors; yet your crowd seems unwilling to consider even the possibility that widespread adoption of FSD or its counterparts might actually reduce the loss of lives and property by virtually eliminating all of these dangerous behaviors. And it might be one of your friends, neighbors or loved ones whose life would be saved as a result.
Not defending the navigation errors, but for added context, San Francisco in just the last few months has put up a lot of new No Right On Red signs and No Turn signs to hopefully improve pedestrian safety. I doubt any mapping service will be updated for them, although I hear your point about Tesla's opportunity to do so in near real time with onboard cameras.
As a touriste many years away, I did drive down Lombard and it wasn’t much a deal with my Honda Civic, but in my remembrance, SF traffic was much heavier than your drives. Let make a road trip to Montreal next summer and try real traffic (same as NYC but with a French taste)
10:19 There should also be a right turn blinker at the roundabout for the cars opposite you, entering the roundabout.
Nice to see that the issues that you are showing are ones that I was experiencing regularly.
Epic. That round about decision time was wild
15:40 He was wearing faded paint pants with a garbage can black hoodie. Great image to put on a driving test, “How many pedestrians are waiting to cross the intersection?”
18:13 or something when it reversed, I really thought you took over to get it around that corner. Very impressive and natural behavior.
I live in sf and my most common interventions are “No right on red” and it thinking the bicycle light turning green is green for the car to turn right
This really is the best one yet. I hope it continues to get better.
Lots of challenges there and Ego didn't even complain about your tricky routes and dead-end destinations! 😜😎
30:00 anyone remember the time when FSD was about to do an illegal right turn on red when the cop next to him called out “don’t do it!” 😅
Boston has some of the most complex streets around, and I can attest that nav is the biggest issue.
Agreed on the navigation errors, I've seen plenty of them. I'm in Colorado for reference.
I also think it's very likely Tesla starts doing more fleet sourced mapping, although it may not be very obvious to us. They may just start trialing this in the background and apply corrections to their existing map data.
That said, if the focus is SF and TX robotaxis then they don't need national-wide fleet sourced map updates in the short term. So we'll see, maybe it's not a top priority.
Thanks for your amazing videos. Keep up the good work!
Great video. Can't wait for v13.2.x. How the car behaves to high beams or simply the car stopping is significant. I often have an instance of flashing high beams on many of my drives. Since v12.5.6.4 always waits for the car to come to a full stop it's likely the other car will flash a 2nd time or start waving at me. That is why FSD needs to respond quickly to the flashing lights as long as FSD can see the environment around the other car. Waiting annoys the other driver but it's not that big of a deal.
I’ve felt the needed to have their own map annotation for some time. Especially since 12.5. 90% of my disengagements are due to bad routes. Like taking the “shortest” path to an unprotected left into a major 4 lane road when one street over has a stoplight. Could also annotate for bad visibility at intersections to make them less preferred in planning.
Love your videos so much dude !!
5:09
So they didn’t announce an in-house mapping service at the robot event. But at the Dojo release event, they hypothesized using all Tesla cameras to build virtual digital environments from real ones, and run FSD simulations against their virtual environments, controlling for weather and other obstacles. Tesla seems to have a monopoly on road telemetry data, and they intend to use it by using cam data to build these environments.
Great video. Nowadays I just watch them to reminisce my days in the city with friends. Regarding the reactionary behaviour to the lights and hand gesture, I would love to one day have Tesla react to someone flipping the bird!
Fart on finger
There is always someone that throws out the "unsafe driver" statement whenever FSD sees something the driver didn't. It is a subtle way of switching the achievement of FSD to the incompetent driver.
2:16 should’ve been a disengagement. If you had disengaged in version 12, then it would probably have learned by now.
I have hw4 model 3 (2024). Still haven’t received this update. Eagerly awaiting.
It seems like it's only been pushed to a few TH-camrs so far.
Doesn’t need maps if it can read the signs and lane markings. In fact, I thought that’s been the argument for a while now about not needing HD Maps like the competitors. 🤔
As a human driver from your neck of the woods, I find it almost impossible to drive around SF without at least a couple of awkward maneuvers! Version 13 is astonishing in its ability, but I don’t think it’ll be robo-taxi ready until it learns to read, understand, and react correctly to traffic signs. Keep making videos until it correctly and consistently reacts to signs that say stuff like “No left turn 7-10 am M-F”.
It would be nice to see how weather affects this, during my trial of v12 with light rain it started driving on the wrong side of the road into incoming traffic
I feel like the self driving is far better than me in the city. And I feel comfortable with it getting close to things, it can see everything, it knows how big it is, so it should be able to get close, like, an inch away and be fine, right? As a human we don't have eyes on the outside of the car.
“I’m going through a lot right now.” 1:12
Those are some crazy roads in SF!
Thanks for this great video! My 2020 Model 3 SR+ is still on v12.5.4 and it's pretty good. I am waiting enthusiastically for v13.
Even if FSD gets too good, you can still make content (e.g., FSD Uber reactions, hands out the window prank, etc.)
13:13 I'd consider that an "Awkward Moment" for FSD. In situations like that I would have disengaged to prevent annoying other motorists.
I think this was perfectly executed, y'all be distracted by waymo beforehand
Thank you again for not giving up
you should try Mill Valley for new Berkeley-like twisted streets. Mt.Tam roads will also get you some gorgeous high speed vistas.
A few things to the guy at 15:41.
1. Its a lot easier to see him ofc if you warn us that something is going to happen so thats a pretty common spot.
2. To all of those meaning people not seeing that are terrible drivers and they saw it immediately, well we got the overview from behind which literally has no blind spots. I guess the view from inside the car is a whole lot different. And we don't even have to turn our necks. so...
Would I have seen him without warning if I paid attention? Yea sure. In the video I got 3rd Person view so how could I miss that. In case I was driving? I don't know.
Navigation here in rural New Mexico is mostly okay but it has some really brain farts. For example, it still does not know how to drive to my grocery store. Also 12.5.4 doesn't check for traffic at stop signs which is very unsafe.
23:40 it ignores / doesnt notice the speed limit is 5, and breaks the speed limit over the bridge
Thanks for putting this out even though your voice was going. Can't wait to get it.
really appreciate your efforts to educate us
I think Tesla might use Open Street Map data? Which is like Wikipedia for maps, you can go in and see all three signs and leave information and make changes.
I've made a couple snack corrections on tricky intersections near me, to see if that helps.
Upping your criteria is exactly the point.
Can it crawl? Okay now can it walk? Okay now can it run?
I guess by my example, we're jogging?
This was extremely impressive even if the occasional hickups. But please never stop making these driving videos. Its good entertainment, and will remain highly educational for as long as there are still people out there doubting Tesla self driving systems. Although maybe one day you'll have to get more innovative with the content to stay relevant... what about a video titled "can my Tesla find its way across this desert while I sleep?" once it's level 5?
Make a right onto Lombard is not allowed, driver error. Can't make a left either from the opposite direction, this is to prevent queue cutting onto Lombard and down it.
19:36 I actually laughed out loud imagining that.
I don't think it's really a map problem - there's always going to be a chance they're outdated. The real problem is sign reading.
That tesla supercharger in SF is a pain
So hoping to see others who are using this new version in the snow belt of the West and NE.
Good video. Very challenging indeed. ENCORE!
Awkward Maneuvers, Yesss!!!!! Maybe a "Technically Illegal" counter in the future?
Amazing how your car makes mistakes in SF but Omar's car drives perfectly...might want to check with him.
I hope Dirty Tesla and Chuck Cook adopt your awkward maneuvers stat in their videos
Very cool video! I'm still waiting on my holiday update!
Who else still hasn't gotten the update in their Model 3 or Y? I'm still waiting... Like if you're in the same boat.
I’m still seeing horrific behavior with closed lanes. The car goes by a sign announcing the right lane is closed ahead without notice. Then it blows past a blinking arrow pointing left. Even with every other car on the road shifted left, my Model 3 hugs the cones in the right lane, not even starting to move until the cones impinge almost to the midlane. This repeatedly means the car crowds drivers on the left or ends up slamming the brakes, stuck at the cones and waiting for an opening
I can't wait for Autopilot to get a voice so it can say "Stop yelling at me!"
Tesla: I can’t drive fifty-five
Mercedes: I won’t drive fifty-five
8:05 little cyclist legs pumping up and down in the animation. not sure if it's new, but didn't notice it before.
even tho teslacam is a thing, you should get an aftermarket viofo so when the battery runs out on the gopro you can switch to the dashcamera, a viofo a119 mini 2 would be a great example
Wasn’t expecting another video so soon ❤🎉