Peter Doig & Karl Ove Knausgård On Edvard Munch
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- Enjoy this engaging and far-reaching conversation between two giants of art and literature, Scottish artist Peter Doig and Norwegian author Karl Ove Knausgård about the legendary Norwegian painter Edvard Munch (1863-1944). About how they mirror themselves in Munch’s struggle to stay alert as an artist and keep discovering new territories instead of giving in to the expectations of others.
“I’m still shaking after walking around in the exhibition,” Doig says of Knausgård’s ‘Edvard Munch’ exhibition in connection to which the writer and painter talk about their fascination with the Norwegian painter. Knausgård feels that Doig’s paintings are similar to Munch’s, and Doig describes the ways in which there are references to Munch in his paintings - e.g. how both painters hide things in their work.
Knausgård talks about Munch’s personal life and the many losses he experienced at an early age: “He couldn’t trust the world.” Painting, Knausgård feels, was a way for Munch to connect to the world. As an example, he painted his sister’s deathbed over and over again. Later, Knausgård continues, Munch had some kind of mental breakdown, and also became an alcoholic: “He’s really almost dissolved as a person.” After this, Munch seemed to stop painting his inner landscapes. Moreover, Knausgård finds it interesting that Munch repeated his paintings throughout his life - doing paintings that he had done at age 22 at the age of 74.
“I always go in with emotions - I have no other way to approach paintings. And then it kind of opens up if you keep looking at it,” Knausgård says. He feels that in literature as well as in art, there is a struggle to break down and build up to make things new for yourself. Doig agrees with this, and talks about how painting can be a struggle to know what’s going to keep you excited, and why it is essential to approach a painting with a kind of innocence and openness: “Things come about by surprise.”
Peter Doig (b. 1959) is a Scottish artist, who is celebrated as one of the most important representational painters working today. He has held several solo exhibitions including at the Scottish National Gallery in Edinburgh, Faurschou Foundation in Beijing, Louisiana Museum of Modern Art in Humlebæk, Musée des Beaux-Arts de Montreal, Musée d’Art Moderne de la Ville de Paris, and Tate Britain in London. His works are held in the collections of the Art Institute of Chicago, the National Gallery of Art in Washington, D.C., and Schirn Kunsthalle in Frankfurt, among others. Doig has received several prestigious awards such as the Prix Eliette von Karajan (1994) and the Wolfgang Hahn Prize of the Society for Modern Art (2008).
Karl Ove Knausgård (b. 1968) is a Norwegian author, internationally recognized for his prizewinning novel ‘My Struggle’. The novel, in which the author describes his own life, is in six volumes spanning over 3,000 pages. He is also the author of a four-volume series following the seasons - ‘On Spring’, ‘On Summer’, ‘On Fall’ and ‘On Winter’ (2015-16), ‘Inadvertent (Why I Write) (2018), and ‘So Much Longing in So Little Space: The Art of Edvard Munch’ (2019). Knausgård is the recipient of several prestigious prizes including the Austrian State Prize for European Literature.
Edvard Munch (1863-1944) is a Norwegian painter and one of the most important artists of the early 20th century. Munch was part of the Symbolist movement in the 1890s, and a pioneer of Expressionism. Among his most iconic paintings are ‘The Scream’ and ‘The Sick Child’.
Peter Doig and Karl Ove Knausgård were on stage with Christian Lund at Kunstsammlung Nordrhein-Westfalen in Düsseldorf in connection with the exhibition ‘Edvard Munch’, curated by Karl Ove Knausgård, in November 2019.
Camera: Jakob Solbakken
Edited by Klaus Elmer
Produced by Christian Lund
Cover photo: Cropped version of ‘Ashes’ (1894) by Edvard Munch
Copyright: Louisiana Channel, Louisiana Museum of Modern Art, 2019
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As someone who reviews Art for a living and often struggles to find a way to make it interesting, it's wonderful to see these three try.
Would you be able to share your review platform, I'd like to read some of your writings
32:00 Friday the 13th ending is pure art, well done Peter
Wonderful interview xxx Thanks. ❤
Well obviously Doig is in this round the one who is not `a man of words`. But his painting work is just amazing. There are not so many amazing painters nowadays...
Wonderful!
Wow,,how can you say that there is only one good painter in Norway,,,looks like Peter Doig was surprised to hear that also,,,he is true master so he is not so judgemental and much more humble to make such a statement
I think he means that there is only one internationally recognized painter in Norway, but I also wondered if I heard that right until I thought about it.
The matisse painting with the bathers and the turtle. Incredibly interesting that he depicts three figures looking very vulnerable and insecure in their nakedness, and in the middle woth one of them reaching out is a creature that has a shell or a sort of evolutionary armor so to speak.
wow! excellent
''I get nervous when, (...), I rely on what I discovered, - , that makes sense;...'': thumb up.-)
Does anyone know the book Knausbgard refers to about Munch repeating an image and why he did so, copying himself? Thank you.
I found it, I think....
Poul Erik Tojner -- Munch: In His Own Words
@@thelouisianachannel Thank you very much for confirming it!!
Until when is the exposition of Munch? And where exactly?
Louisiana Channel thanks a lot for the information 🙏
🖤 karl ove Knausgard.
i am lost. I am uncertain of what the artist is saying. . .
As much as i admire Knausgård, i disagree completely with his statement that we don't have more than one good painter from Norway. I'm so sick of this idea, there are sooo many both from Munchs own time and also today. Kai Fjell, Ludvig Karsten, Gerhard Munthe, Harriet Backer, Knut Rose, Håkon Bleken, the list goes on...
Thank you for saying this. Though Im no a entirely acquainted with Norway's history of art, I thought his comment was quite impossible to believe. Not sure what criteria his comment was based on, but again, as I was watching I said to myself "that has to be impossible". Anyway Thank you for posting your thoughts and particularly listing a few artists.
@@Delta888ful It’s actually a bit of a terrible trend which has been going on for a long time in the mainstream art scene in Norway, putting Munch on a piedestal and making him so huge that other equally (or even better) painters fall in this monsters giant shadow. Although i do admire a great deal of Munchs works, it is the kind of ignorant comments made by Knausgård that keeps this myth alive. If you’re ever in Norway you will see what exceptionally high level of painters besides Munch have worked here in the last 150 years. Knausgård states rightly that when Munch entered the scene, national romanticism (like Tidemann & Gude) and social realism (Christian Krogh) were in vogue, but Munch was far from the only artist with radical ideas, it’s an ignorant statement. Cheers for reply
@@erlendevensen531 In a twisted way, some of that is going on in the U.S. as well. Many think there's no one better than the great, most popular, American and European artists. Those artists placed on pedestals are brilliant, but there have been others during the years and currently. You should see the dissapointment on some artist's faces when they realize or are told they can never reach those famous artists levels -- and, that whatever has been created is finite, that nothing knew can be created. In other words, don't bother, its all been done. It's a trend that has been perpetrated and perpetuated by museums and galleries, along with the exorbitent prices of art. The other problem is educational institutions, who are happy to take your money and leave you in debt, while sometimes not truly teaching the history of art or technical techniques -- and once they get you in the door, it's off to moulding you into the kind of artist that will sell extremely well and represent the institution well. It's a hard enough life being an artist without being confronted by these challenges and erroneous, ridiculous trends. It's a miracle people still want to be artists. But, the world needs artists... like it needs poets.
you believe they have the same quality and status of Munch??? The artist you mention are very good......not on the level of Munch. IMO. There is a reason history remembers some artist and most get forgotten. Munch will not be forgotten
@@enrutuu6052 Well as i say, i do think Munch is great, or much of his works are. I love the frieze of life, his portarit of Hans Jeger etc.. Of course he wont be forgotten. My point is not that he is not great, but that people have a tendency to over glorify him and it seems to put a shadow on other great artists, maybe there is a myth which even overshadows himself. The list i made was from the top of my head, i could keep going and I certainly don’t think those painters are any lesser than munch, less iconic maybe, but their paintings are of same quality as Munch, although maybe not same status, but thats cultural. Many other Norwegian painters give me more (and i am a painter myself)
Doig may not say much but when you have a painter's perspective next to a writer, viewer etc, you have experience vs speculation, which is obvious here. Doig is just as iconic as Munch, he's just still alive.
i bought a book by knausgard back in the spring but never read it. ironically, i've rented a few books on doig and read them all. always felt like doigs artwork was so similar to munchs, especially with the recurring images, expressionistic style etc. doig is too humble and not very good at talking about his art, which is probably the best thing an artist can be
Bad painting contest : Picasso, Munch, Duchamp participated???
lmao at "representational painter". no wonder munch's still so relevant to you
Artists like munch and Van Gogh will never come again because they lived very hard lives compared to the pampered luxury of artists today .Look at those three paunches .
swing and a miss
Doig ruins it with his wandering all over the place maunderings.
Why is this recommended too me? Im not interested in drawings a minor can make.
Doig has no place anywhere near any masters such as Munch. His work is of an entirely different category
28:15 this painting is OBJECTIVELY trash
please dont put Doigt works at Munch level, the guy seems nice, but his work is just above average, i dont understand his success, truly.... it's under klimt, under Munch, then some collage feel to it - pleaase
I agree.. Peter Doig is imo below average artist.. The art world is rotten to the core...