Sending our 80’s Barn Find Kawasaki KX80 2 Stroke Dirt Bike

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  • We bought three Kawasaki KX80 2 stroke dirt bikes in boxes, and we were able to put one together and ride it! In today's video we send the dirt bike around the CarsandCameras Grand Prix
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  • @steveb3877
    @steveb3877 2 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Cars and cameras, acquirers actual dirt bike, is impressed by how good actual dirt bike is at dirt biking. Nodding my head silently.

    • @CarsandCameras
      @CarsandCameras  2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      lol it only took us 7 years to discover

    • @dvscustoms
      @dvscustoms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@CarsandCameras worth the wait

    • @nomasker1360
      @nomasker1360 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Now try a newer 125 , 250 and 500 2 Strk

  • @fillg
    @fillg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    I totally respect you guys for being willing to admit when something is out of your comfort zone or just too much for you and then not do it. 👍

    • @cavemanvi
      @cavemanvi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I respect that John fits that thing cause he's built like a 12 year old lolllll

    • @spagamoto
      @spagamoto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      100%. Sign of maturity.

    • @FarmerFpv
      @FarmerFpv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not like we couldn't already tell that they're scared of the kx80. They look so sketchy on it. Especially, Ike, he looks like he has to go poop when trying to burn the tire, lol.

    • @CarsandCameras
      @CarsandCameras  2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      gotta know your limits in this line of work!

    • @lukecombs5242
      @lukecombs5242 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CarsandCameras if you keep the bike complete have the shocks rebuilt by a professional that’s why it’s so bouncy they are blown and get stiffer springs and on 2strokes if the head pipe has any dents or cracks in it that will affect the powerband and I’d definitely pick up the correct air filter for it those little 80s pack a big punch that’s for sure they have a nasty power band be safe and keep ripping practice makes habit keep riding it and before you know you will be able to rip it hard. 🤙🏻

  • @budgetbasswilson3866
    @budgetbasswilson3866 2 ปีที่แล้ว +455

    Careful on the engine braking guys… that’s not a 4 stroke lol.. when the carb slide is at idle and you let the bike still roll and the rpm’s hang like that.. it’s not sending enough fuel mix into the engine for that rpm. Just a lil warning.. pull the clutch in while slowing down.. it’ll definitely cut down on piston wear and heat cuz it runs extremely lean when you engine brake and that also causes heat.

    • @alexcrafter_
      @alexcrafter_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      It wont instantly destroy it. I agree it will wear it down but so little. It will only destroy it if done on a highway at high rpms. They wont produce heat as engine braking shuts off most of the fuel entry and as there is not much to explode barely produces heat. *No hating just sayin* lol

    • @jacobpomelow7481
      @jacobpomelow7481 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What he said

    • @16driver16
      @16driver16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Whether it's got an auto oiler or not makes a difference

    • @chestermcgillicuddy4368
      @chestermcgillicuddy4368 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      They are grown men with zero racing experience playing around on a clapped out 80. And having a blast at that! It's ok!

    • @laurentiudinca9606
      @laurentiudinca9606 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That's a good point. I think it applies mostly for long distances. If you were to go down a long hill, I don't think it'd be recommended. But yeah, I'd avoid doing it just to increase the longevity of those parts inside.

  • @jimmywhitlow2012
    @jimmywhitlow2012 2 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    When riding 2 strokes, you have to shift more to stay in it. When exiting a corner, there should be no bog, you have to downshift to stay in the power. It takes time to learn to ride these bikes, but once you do, you won't want anything else .😉 stay safe and have fun guys.

    • @thomashubbard4720
      @thomashubbard4720 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      yeah i agree they have alot of riding and learning to do but yes they should 100% be down shifting at turns i do think once they get over there fear of it they will be fine i spent most of my childhood outrunning the baltimore md police on kx cr and yz 80 you guys will destroy those times with more seat time and just watching the video there were definetly sections where you guys could have stayed in it alot longer then what you did get use to letting that back tire come out and start sliding around those turns and you guys will kill that leader board

    • @craiggiles8156
      @craiggiles8156 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Ride the clutch to keep the power valve wide open. A short 2 finger clutch lever is a must on a 2 stroke.

    • @bustinyanutz4195
      @bustinyanutz4195 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You're right on small strokes but if you're riding a CR 500 or KX 500 they have lots of bottom end, I'm 49 yrs old and I've been riding and racing 2 strokes since I was 10 in 1985 and you're right once you learn to ride a 2 stroke you'll never want another 4 stroke if you're an adrenaline junkie like me

    • @mattyoung2880
      @mattyoung2880 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s right you need to just ring its neck all day !!!

    • @LeadfootOnline
      @LeadfootOnline 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@craiggiles8156 This right here.. Clutch control is how you manage the powerband through corners.

  • @SaltedSeeder
    @SaltedSeeder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    This is why I just can’t give up my 2 strokes. One thing is that they sound/feel like you’re moving faster than you really are. That’s why I think you got those numbers too. 2stroke4ever 👊🏼

    • @ghomerhust
      @ghomerhust 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      theres just something about RING PING PING noises, right? and that smell

    • @SaltedSeeder
      @SaltedSeeder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ghomerhust yes exactly! haha now they make strawberry scented 2 stroke oil 👊🏼

  • @funnyfudgeman16
    @funnyfudgeman16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    This engine in a trail 70 would be insane!

    • @dabrandi
      @dabrandi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree

  • @freshbrad1354
    @freshbrad1354 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My first dirt bike was a Honda XR-80. I was 11-12 yrs old, and I thought I was a badass. My cousin had a KX-80 and we swapped bikes before a trail ride....that two stroke Kawasaki scared the shit outta me as a kid.

  • @DGPG35
    @DGPG35 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I owned a KX80 from the age of 14 to 16 and it was one of my favorite dirt bike experiences, I had so much fun on that bike because I could toss it about and give it full throttle at will.

  • @Red9GearHeads
    @Red9GearHeads 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    A buddy of mine had a late 80’s KX80. It was insane. It would stand wheelies with a 175 lbs guy sitting on it. Real fast bike.

  • @theliberalrepublican
    @theliberalrepublican 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So good to see you discover the joy of a hot 2 smoke coming on the pipe and showing you what REAL power is!

  • @jackarmstrong608
    @jackarmstrong608 2 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    You can fix the “bouncy” feeling by changing the front fork “air” and oil weight ….. the rear shock has some “rate” adjustment for feel!!!
    You guys rock !!! 👍👍👍👍

    • @_zzpza
      @_zzpza 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I don't think there's any oil left in the forks!

    • @glenpiro313
      @glenpiro313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@_zzpza Or the shock!!

    • @yomomlikesgangbangs5106
      @yomomlikesgangbangs5106 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Forks /shocks don’t use air lol just cause there a air nipple
      Didn’t mean it takes air 😂 they use nitrogen

    • @RealKlausSchwab
      @RealKlausSchwab 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yomomlikesgangbangs5106 My mom does like gangbangs.....
      Wonder how she's been?

    • @chrisreed5849
      @chrisreed5849 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They could fix the forks and shock or just swap them

  • @danw1955
    @danw1955 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    That engine would be nuts on a Trail 70, but you'd probably have to get some longer rear shocks for it, if you don't want to compress all your lower vertebrae..🤣The Harley is just too much weight and you'd overheat/blow it in short order.😜 Like others have said, pull that clutch when you're coasting to keep it from wearing the rings and bottom end prematurely. Those little high output 2 strokers are pretty sensitive about that.😉 Personally, I would try to salvage one of the other KX frames, and have a pair of little rippers, even if you have to buy some extra parts!👍

    • @davolbc
      @davolbc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed, if you're not on the gas you're on the clutch and making sure you are in the right gear otherwise that motor is going to go quick. And I also agree but I'm going to take it a step further that not only two of those little rippers but they should take off three of those frames and try and keep them as original as possible wouldn't it be amazing to see three of those in their shop lined up so whenever they all three want to go out and tear up something they can maybe even a race definitely even a race lol. Love jumping them also so learn it will make it much easier on all your other projects because if you can handle a dirt bike all these other projects will be a piece of cake.

    • @speedyme200
      @speedyme200 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Will even the stock clutches on the KX80 hold up to and pull the weight of the Harley

  • @jamadeus13
    @jamadeus13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    My first bike when I was 12 was a KX80, man that thing was insane, at that age too. Later on I swapped to a 100cc in it, crazy little bike.

  • @ctvxl
    @ctvxl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Those little 80cc 2 strokes are hard to beat for pure fun factor. My personal favorite was the old Honda CR125 though. Just the right balance of power, weight, and size for just having fun.
    I used to have an old Elsinore 250 that was a rocket ship compared to the CR125. I loved the Elsinore, but I rode the 125 WAY more often. My cousin had a Yamaha 80cc, and I used to ride the snot out of that also. It was really fun because you can just throw it around so easily...

  • @jonnybgood1079
    @jonnybgood1079 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    To clean your needle and seat use a Q-tip in a drill with some valve lapping compound. Use the fine stuff. It will make your seat like brand new. The rest of the car just put in the ultrasonic cleaner and blow it out with brake clean. As a small engine mechanic I have done this for years and it works great.

  • @79tazman
    @79tazman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I grew up on 2 stroke dirt bikes that's where I got many of my scares on my legs from and arms LOL!! 2 Stroke dirt bikes are awesome.

  • @Jonsellscoolstuff
    @Jonsellscoolstuff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You really need some banked/ berms rutted up so you can hold it wide open out of the turns. That thing is sick!

  • @justincoats7236
    @justincoats7236 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My twin brother and I got brand new 84 KX80 when we were 12 years old. We were in a farming community. The older guys (14 to 16 year olds) had Honda XR250s. We could kick their butts in every way. I've owned close to 15 different bikes. The KX80 was my favorite.

  • @brianz367
    @brianz367 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ike is right about staying in the power band. John you killed your lap at the end, from the creek on. Great content as always. Love to you see you guys keep practicing and grab the top spot!

  • @EdStonesy
    @EdStonesy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had one of these as a kid, living on a farm it was great! Waaaaay too much bike for a kid and the neighbouring villages could hear it for miles. Pure chaos and danger fun, great to see you dudes appreciate the true nature of this beast. It’ll be fine!

  • @christopherehendrick
    @christopherehendrick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I felt so much better after you installed the front brake lever. Safety third!

  • @jamiestaylorsr8869
    @jamiestaylorsr8869 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guys, I've never riden KX80. But I know that it's like it's bigger brothers the KX125 And KX250. I have rode the KX125 and it's a hoss, no doubt. These very strong 2 stroke bikes HAVE to be ridden in the power band. Being used to the bike is very important to get good times. Understand that these are the same bikes that are used in the race circuit. So staying in the power band is very important for performance. Being on the track, up and down hills, hitting jumps, it's very crucial that you are in the power band. Watch a couple videos and see the guys gassing hard and staying in the band. I do know from experience that if you just ride, like a 4 stroke, you will be changing the plug all the time from fouling the plug. Thanks guys and keep up the awesome work. Keep making great videos.

  • @RebelGoatFPV
    @RebelGoatFPV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love your videos, great reactions to the bike! Those bouncy shocks and forks definitely need rebuilt and/or tuned. The 80/85cc bikes are pipey for sure, got to work the clutch and gears, next up 250cc two stroke MX'rs. They pull hard in the midrange and hit even harder on the pipe! Just to mention as well, stay in the power when you hit a jump, if you let up on the lip you endo. If you need to lift the nose in the air hit the throttle, if you need to dip the nose tap the rear brake.

  • @darellsimons2687
    @darellsimons2687 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When you feel the vibration calm down after the power band kicks in what a feeling

  • @lesterntomson4988
    @lesterntomson4988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is awesome. I saved up for my 1991 kx 80, big wheel, non arena exhaust ,ya it was a thing, through odd jobs at 13. It took awhile at $ 1,300 brand new. The "power band" is just the way we rolled... loved hanging out with 4 stroke guys. I think I will get it out and give it a rip.

  • @upperroomtoo
    @upperroomtoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am reminiscing about riding a YZ100 back in 82'. That thing would stand up in the first 4 gears and then you still had two more to go. It was a rocket ship for a 15yo 150lb kid.

  • @rastaralph7154
    @rastaralph7154 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Gotta keep it in the band through the gears!. I used to have a fully tuned with drilled jet and ground exhaust port and skimmed head Kawasaki AR125 and you couldn't set off in first and wind on without having to tank it to keep the front wheel down! ❤️💛💚😂

  • @memorris2
    @memorris2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys are so trained for no shifting and no 2strokes. I grew up on old motocross 80s, and it is a true skill to use that motor and be fast. Mine didnt even have brakes at all and i learned how to really ride.

  • @Slane583
    @Slane583 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This right here is why I want to get my vintage YZ 465 rebuilt and put back together. But I don't have a shop or space for doing any work to it. So it lives at my friends house in pieces until I have a place to put it. The big two-stroke bikes don't have to pegged and revved out like the small displacement ones to get the power down. :)

    • @jolla9963
      @jolla9963 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This has inspired me to get my IT 465 out, dusted off, and riding again. It has been a long time since she was retired to the backmof the garage. But she is still there for the reason itnwas an exciting bike, both on road and off.

    • @Slane583
      @Slane583 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jolla9963 I bought my YZ off of my younger brother as a project. So it was already taken apart and in boxes when I got it sad to say. So it's missing some stuff which I have no problems searching for. But I literally have no place to work on it and store it at my house. So it's been sitting at a friends untouched since I got it.

  • @DaveHiggoHiggins
    @DaveHiggoHiggins 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Childhood memories right there. SO much when you're kid (and kid at heart). Seems to be the perfect size for John.

  • @davethemanpicton
    @davethemanpicton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Get new carbon reeds for the carb makes the power band even more mental. I had a kmx 125, 31hp, in UK we love the 80cc and 125cc. They are great, the expansion pipe is needed so don't mess with it. Can up jet the carbs etc when u do the uprated reads. Will make it even more of an animal

    • @davethemanpicton
      @davethemanpicton 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also remove air box and put a small cone filter wink

    • @Slane583
      @Slane583 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@barryallen6293 No they're not. Boysen Power Reeds are dual-rate fiberglass reeds. I had some in my Yamaha Blaster back in high school. He's talking about V-Force reeds that are made of carbon fiber.

    • @IamBATMAN2024
      @IamBATMAN2024 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davethemanpicton bad idea 2 strokes need the airbox and there’s no way your kmx125 was 31hp lol that’s nearly as powerful as a proper 125cc mx of today. I’ve had Dtr’s and they’re faster than kmx 125’s and they’re not 30hp

  • @pandemicpewpew3296
    @pandemicpewpew3296 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I raced motocross when I was a kid up to my 20's. The 1986 KX80 G1 was a game changer in the day and I was always out front! Such a good bike! I remember everyone thinking it was weird that KX was printed on the top side back of the seat lol.

  • @El_Chompo
    @El_Chompo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow John, for someone without much dirt bike experience and riding one with blown shocks, your jumping form looked very good! But good call on staying in your comfort zone. The last time I pushed out of my comfort zone on a kx80 I hit a tree and luckily enough only got a scar on my leg to remember it by.

  • @eugenesbackyardrepair4593
    @eugenesbackyardrepair4593 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey guys make sure to check the mail. You should now have all the cool color fuel lines now. Small gift for all your great builds you share with us. Love the kx80 and John at least you tried it out because they are fun.

  • @jamesmcgee9279
    @jamesmcgee9279 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Lower your profile while going into turns. Do the following on the inside of your turns. By leaning inward and extending your leg out and forward at the beginning of the turn will help your stability while exiting the turn. Snap the throttle while exiting to maintain some of your powerband. Immediately resume throttle as you start to straighten up. You can practice this maneuver riding in circles. Then, go into a figure eight to get comfortable with turning both ways. You get this down, I'll bet you obliterate your fastest lap time.

  • @ellisberry8747
    @ellisberry8747 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m going to view a kx85 2011 this weekend. I’m 18. I’ve wanted a real dirt bike for literally my entire life.
    Feels good man

  • @budgetbasswilson3866
    @budgetbasswilson3866 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Suspension is bouncy because one your too heavy for it and 2 I bet it is blown out lol.. when you push down on the seat it should come back up softly.. if it snaps or springs back up then yeah it’s clapped out and need suspension work.

  • @adrockey
    @adrockey 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! The KX80 is an awesome bike. In 1980 on my 11th birthday I got a YZ80. My best friend got a RM80. We had a blast and the next year he got a KX80. His uncle owned the Kawasaki Suzuki shop so he always got brand new. By the way to shift without a clutch you have to get it shifted just before your highest top end like 125 RPMs. Back off slightly shift get back into it.
    Always be prepared to lean forward to keep that front end from coming up. Charles is right y'all are probably just overweight for that shock. One thing that's beneficial writing a two-stroke is doing a lot of standing up I really ever sat on my seat. I grew up in Arizona flying across the desert. My what you would maybe call a specialty was going as fast as I could inland I've never been so I just stood up scanned land and was always prepared for throttle or break. I can get two free air off a gopher hole if you hit that power band right.

  • @rcchallenge8626
    @rcchallenge8626 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Definitely needs a shock rebuild, I’ve seen guys twice Hanks size ride the Kawasaki 85cc and send it over jumps etc. also you need to stop all the engine breaking your doing, you’ll burn out your rings in no time because of a lack of fuel break hard into bends pull the clutch keep your revs up and let fly as you come out the turn on flat otherwise pin it through the burms great vid chaps get that shock done she will feel 100 times safer

    • @adamr9215
      @adamr9215 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Engine braking doesn’t damage a 2 stroke. That’s a myth that was disproven decades ago. These engines are designed to get a new top end every 10-20 hours or running. It’s very soft piston rings that seal well but don’t last, and if they wear too much they will chatter and destroy the cylinder. Engine braking doesn’t hurt them at all. If anything it helps because it’s removing heat from the engine.

  • @WreckedRevival
    @WreckedRevival 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yasss so happy to see a Cars & cameras vid on the feed after a long day in the shop, especially this little beast.
    P.S. It seems rich on the idle-1/4 throttle circuit. Lean bog will just feel/sound like it's going to die and Rich bog will sputter/stutter and might clear up with rpm. Lot of potentials for being rich I always start with the carb tuning. The needle clip position (SEA LEVEL) start with 3rd tick down (may vary with main jet and needle taper if not a stock needle) , check/set float level height, compare main & pilot jets to stock, back out air screw 1 1/2 turns as a base starting point (any more than 3 turns out on pilot you need to go down on the pilot jet size or float height may be incorrect , more than 1 turn in then up pilot jet size) then back out idle screw & tune from there (left is leaner, right is richer (opposite of four strokes)). If it can't be tuned out it's time to start checking crankcase seals, intake boots, and reed condition. I typically go a tad rich with 2 stroke tunes incase of a gasket/seal or intake boot failure (quick lean condition). Better a plug than burning up the top end.😎🤙
    P.s.s. Been riding 2 stroke dirt bikes since my first one at 10 (23 years ago) so if you ever need a guy to come properly rip on one, my business email is on my page. 🤘

  • @jackarmstrong608
    @jackarmstrong608 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Also a note, mentioned before;
    2 strokes oil themselves when you are on the “gas”!!!! Idling for any time at all can starve your bearings when the engine is hot!!
    Put it in neutral, and roll the throttle up(not full, just open), then let it close, and repeat while “idling”, or sitting! It will smoke when you do this , which proves you are oiling the motor!
    32:1 mix for synthetic, or 20:1 for “Castrol natural” which smells great when it burns!!! Lol

  • @mrbriancnc
    @mrbriancnc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now I understand why my parents never got me a dirt bike when I was a kid. Wicked fast. Stay safe on that thing fellers. Love the content.

  • @arthurhackman3229
    @arthurhackman3229 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey guys i'm sure you already thought of this but a shiftercart would be best use of one of your KX 80 engine !

  • @joshbrekke6374
    @joshbrekke6374 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Father bought me a nice condition used 1984 KX80 in 1986. It was a real awesome bike! Super powerful, I was 13. This brings back a lot of good memories, hearing & seeing it rip. We called it the raped Ape till we got our 1973 Suzuki TM400! The suspension I noticed was real awesome as yours is I see. Then I was gifted a 1986 KDX 80, that was a real nice one also, more mellow when I wanted to ride that way. Thanks guys!!

  • @GooseGosselin
    @GooseGosselin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice work getting it running so well! I'm assuming it's one of the other engines that will be going onto the new project? I kinda wanna see it on the Trail 70 to make a Hondasaki. The newsletter should be cool to, thank you gentlemen!

  • @ReynoldsThemeparkAdventures
    @ReynoldsThemeparkAdventures 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Where you're losing speed is in the corners, it's a lot to handle and think of when everything comes at you so fast! You need to be changing down clutch in on the back brake before the corner. Slide the bike in so you can pop the clutch and you the powerband to slide round the corner. 💯🤟🏻 But hats off boy's for your 2nd time riding a 2smoker you sure rang them gears out proper! 👌🏻🔥

  • @dustinmiller7278
    @dustinmiller7278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'm sure y'all already know this but you never want to hold a two-stroke at a single RPM for too long it will harm the engine so that constantly modulating the throttle is the best thing to do on a two-stroke

    • @azertyytreza8947
      @azertyytreza8947 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why not? I see no problem to do so on a properly tuned engine?

    • @tacticalidiot175
      @tacticalidiot175 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@azertyytreza8947 it would get very little oil at low rpm because the oil is in the fuel. These were made for flooring 100% of the time, which is why cars use 4 strokes, and those with 2 strokes have an oil pressure system.

    • @dustinmiller7278
      @dustinmiller7278 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tacticalidiot175 actually it has to do with floating the Piston inside of the motor from overheating cuz there is no oil in the motor it only has its oil in the fuel so if you hold a two-stroke at over 75% throttle for more than 15 to 30 seconds you will start to destroy the piston and rings

    • @dustinmiller7278
      @dustinmiller7278 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tacticalidiot175 this is why you never see anyone just Hammer a two-stroke unless they're an idiot and then more power to them when they have to rebuild their motor and yes I have been known to be one of those idiots I have destroyed a Kawasaki 80cc 2 stroke and a Suzuki dt90 because once I hit Top End I just held the throttle to keep it going did not know that I had to modulate the throttle and not let the engine hold the same RPM for too long

    • @momolovesyou9969
      @momolovesyou9969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dustinmiller7278 I know it's a completely different type of engine, but during spring and fall cleanups we hold our backpack blowers WOT basically all day. Never had one go or need a rebuild. I've always been curious about that but I'm sure it has to do with the power as well

  • @Derf1313
    @Derf1313 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have to chuckle a bit, but my riding 2 strokes was done in the late 60's & 70's. When I was 14 I used my savings to buy a 71 Suzuki 400 mx, that had scared its first owners (little bit of damage too, lol). Sure wish it had more modern suspension, I did a bunch to make it ride better , but that Thumper 2 stroke was a few handfuls even with bigger sprockets. Even as a 180# rider you couldn't keep it down when it hit powerband!! Know a lot of folks that hurt themselves on thumpers... I did pretty good, averaged top 5 in most of the races I ran, lol.
    Jon, if you're gonna try for air, DON'T back off! You ended up landing front wheel first, great way to face plant over the bars, stay steady or on it, so you land better. Was scared for ya...
    Thanx for the fun!

  • @garageofscrap
    @garageofscrap 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Don’t know if you know this, but with 2 strokes, provided you tune it correctly you actually get more power by running a more oil heavy mixture as the extra oil boosts compression slightly, and having extra oil allows for a slightly leaner mixture. It also slows down your piston, rings, and cylinder wear

    • @robspear03
      @robspear03 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@burtronomaniac When in doubt, 20:1.

    • @adamr9215
      @adamr9215 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When you add more oil to the mix, you are displacing fuel, therefore creating a lean mixture. Running lean makes more power, but it is a good way to seize an engine. The oil isnt part of your fuel/air mixture, but too much replaces fuel making the engine run lean.
      FYI, having the piston top flooded with oil would lead to hydrolocking the engine, plus the excessive oil can keep the fuel from igniting, and shutting the engine off. Your advice is absolutely insane and you shouldn’t be giving it to anyone.

    • @garageofscrap
      @garageofscrap 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adamr9215 the oil burns as part of the fuel. It doesn’t just enter the engine and then magically separate and sit there. Also, there have been actual tests done that proved higher levels of oil in the fuel can help with performance. Essentially the testing showed that a 15:1 mixture made 15.7% more power than a 30:1 mixture, and also reduced piston and cylinder wear. It is also worth noting that the oilier mixture did not foul the spark plug, although that would be affected by incorrect tuning
      Source: www.bridgestonemotorcycle.com/documents/oilpremix6.pdf

    • @adamr9215
      @adamr9215 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@garageofscrap The oil does burn off, but it doesn’t burn like gas and it displaces fuel that should be burning. You can run more oil, but you have to jet it out to allow more fuel to replace what was displaced by oil. You still need the same amount of fuel getting into the engine, no matter how much oil is being mixed in.
      Your source is flawed. There are literally dozens of tests out there that prove the opposite. They are testing their special oil, not all 2 stroke oils. There is a 100-1 mix oil that is one of the best performing oils on the market, but you have to jet down for it, or retune your efi engine. All major 2 stroke manufacturers, that all did extensive testing, all recommend 50-1 mix, not the outdated 32-1 mix. So, Honda, Kawasaki, Yamaha and Suszuki all day that test is wrong. KTM too, they used to recommend the 100-1 oil second to their own brand mixed at 50-1.
      FYI, in a 2 stroke, the fuel/oil mix goes through the crankcase so that the oil can separate from the fuel and coat the bearings. The heat in the engine helps vaporize the fuel, but the thicker oil not vaporize and will do it’s job lubricating the internals. It doesn’t lube the piston from being in the air/fuel mix and burning, it lubes the piston because the crank flings it into the bottom of the cylinder.

    • @garageofscrap
      @garageofscrap 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adamr9215 I’m not suggesting to run every oil at 15:1, I’m saying that while a lot of people believe a higher than recommended ratio will provide more power, it’s actually the opposite and you are better off running the recommended ratio, or even more oil than recommended.
      While you may need the same volume of fuel entering the engine, with a carburetted bike the different viscosity’s of different ratio fuel mixes will alter the amount that is sucked through the jet at the same vacuum signal, so a bike tuned correctly for a 30:1 ratio for example would pull a different amount of fuel mix through the same jet if the ratio was 15:1, which would lead to a different amount of fuel in the engine. MatthewMCrepair has a great video explaining both my points about running more oil, and having to adjust jetting for different ratios. His video is actually titled something like more oil = more power

  • @coastalcleaningandmaintena2884
    @coastalcleaningandmaintena2884 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ALWAYS a great day when u 1st discover 2 stroke power. There's just nothing like it. So simple to rebuild and work on as well as upgrade to insane power. Now I need to see u try a banshee or a kx 500 old Skool.

  • @mriippa
    @mriippa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the old KX 80 is a beast. had one in the 90's. was my absolute dream bike

  • @Spodeboy
    @Spodeboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I rode a 1982 KX 80 back in the day. It was air cooled with drum brakes. That powerband was awesome! It will cause people to loop out and land on their butts! Make sure you lean forward. I'm guessing by the color scheme, liquid cooled engine, and front disk brakes that your model is probably from 1985.

  • @cxbra
    @cxbra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a Chinese pitbike (Honda XR70 clone) with a CR85 motor on it.. but its technically 102cc with the big bore kit thats on it. It has a fully balanced crank, big bore, FMF fatty pipe, Pro Circuit silencer, ported and everything. The pitbike chassis has all billet upgraded parts too. INSANE build especially for the price I bought it for! I got it for a fraction of the price of what the motor sells for on ebay (especially since its a Honda CR). Its wild with the balanced crank because there are ZERO vibrations, whoever built it did it right. I'm looking at a Suzuki JR80 on Craigslist with a CR85 swap on it, but I dont have the cash for it hahahaha.

  • @chrisbee4702
    @chrisbee4702 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great seeing guys discovering dirt bikes.

  • @MONSTERXC70
    @MONSTERXC70 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Growing as an '80 kid, 2 strokes 4 life. I was a very small kid and I would ride my buddies '87 KX125 2 stroke. Rode with another friend who rode as a pro motocross racer, Damien Plotts. The good old days, when the powerband kicks in hold on!!!!

  • @jacobbradley1481
    @jacobbradley1481 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey guys, just wanted to say thank you for the stickers today( the guy in the safety yellow). Nice seeing you guys, thanks👌

  • @ivtec4fun55
    @ivtec4fun55 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a 94 kx80 with an FMF Fatty and jetted up.... The powerband hits so hard! It must be a 50% increase in power. Try hill climbing that thing wide open in 2nd!! It's wild! 🤘

    • @ivtec4fun55
      @ivtec4fun55 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ps crank those compression and rebound screws to full, with your guys' weight the shocks need slowed down. SICK BIKE BROTHERS

  • @daltonwurster32
    @daltonwurster32 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching this brings back so many memories of my first dirt bike which was a kx85 and it was an absolute ripper and a blast so nostalgic thanks guys

  • @robertwild6063
    @robertwild6063 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the 80.
    I remember some saying to me they redline around 14000rpm. And love the old power band (before power valves) so much fun.

  • @jamesglenn2006
    @jamesglenn2006 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well you guys got that sucker running right👍 Gotta love a 2 stroke dirtbike. 👌 I was smiling 😁 so many memories of my 80.

  • @jlucasound
    @jlucasound 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    John picked it right up. He was BORN for a two stroke motocross bike. I can tell he loves it and it was like second nature. Can you imagine what he will be able to do after a few weeks of dialing in?

  • @JohnsGarageandAdventures
    @JohnsGarageandAdventures 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think it's time to go big or go home boys, let's see that KX500 cross kart build. That would be awesome out at Busco! This KX80 reminds me of when I raced MX as a kid, can't wait to see more of it!

  • @MrGixxer1300r
    @MrGixxer1300r 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    John is just about the right size and weight for a KX80 the great thing about these older bikes is you can find everything you need to make one really fly for cheap on ebay. Awesome content men!!!

  • @dabtech7456
    @dabtech7456 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's whole new feeling riding something in the dirt that was made for the dirt

  • @paulpetty9338
    @paulpetty9338 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a 250 endro when I was younger,the power band on that thing was awesome!!! Learn your down shifting and up shifting with the tork and ram's slude as needed Leaning into your turns r,s up cross it up a few times you will be hooked!!!

  • @tomstech4390
    @tomstech4390 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad you got round to it.
    "Toms Tech -8 months ago
    Ironically an old 2 stroke kawasaki kx100 or honda cf110 or something would probably set a super fast lap time. Even a modern 4 stroke cf110f would be fast due to larger wheels and good suspension. Would love to see what time an older 90's mini-motox racer would do."
    (Our 2WD Apocalypse Motorcycle gets Huge Upgrades! | 1971 Rokon Revival Pt. 2)
    "Toms Tech - 8 months ago
    I wanna see a dirtbike (small one) go through there, see what it would run.
    KX85 would probably destroy it."
    (190cc Shifter Kart is Tuned to Perfection! | Drift Steering, More Speed, Record Lap Times!)
    "Toms Tech - 7 months ago
    I'm looking at thing going "she's gone, no way"
    Meanwhile I'm full of hope because last few episodes I've been saying "Get a 2stroke dirtbike like a KX80 or whatever" because I think it'll destroy the lap board (big wheels, suspension high reving power). I guess this is as close as we'll get so it'd have to be ground-up rebuild."
    (Reviving an ABANDONED 1975 Harley-Davidson SX125 | The 2 STROKE Italian Flop!)

  • @landonwaldrop9406
    @landonwaldrop9406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yall should get into more dirtbike stuff. been watching yall for years, keep it up!

  • @davidsnyder2000
    @davidsnyder2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those 80cc’s rip!!! They’re a blast. But they’ll also put a hurt’n on you too 😄 Really cool video. I love it when someone discovers the power band on a 2 stroke👍

  • @dh420gjr
    @dh420gjr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am SOO GLAD Y'ALL FINALLY CAME TO 2 STROKES, HOPEFULLY Y'ALL GET THE BUG...1 DWN 4 UP, RUBBER SIDE DWN!!!

  • @nickbaddorf2673
    @nickbaddorf2673 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love to see a 2 stroke Harley! (I think bikes and beards made one that was super cool!)

  • @Jupiter503
    @Jupiter503 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seriously unlocking some major core memories with that bike

  • @derrickphillips6607
    @derrickphillips6607 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ike out there tearing it up...💥💥💪💪

  • @lu52
    @lu52 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I love you guys!!!!! Y’all got me working on a Murray kilowatt that I’m loving it.

  • @marc4661
    @marc4661 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a 93 kx 80 big wheel, it was so much fun and the 2nd gear PowerBand is awesome

  • @stevecreson4569
    @stevecreson4569 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have 1985 RM 80 THAT'S BEEN PUNCHED OUT and it's scary crazy fast but I love it.

  • @Cheese2Stoked
    @Cheese2Stoked 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My first time on a 2T was a YZ250. Got on with four stroke habits and looped it on the test run😂😂 I’ve been addicted the smokers ever since🤘🏾💥

  • @pongping1378
    @pongping1378 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember as a young lad getting my first Mx bike and it was a kx80 I was in love haha now I ride a cr500 AF which is mental my mrs says I'm having a mid lifer at 41 years of age I say I just haven't grown up hahaha love what you do guys keep it up

  • @MrBandit711
    @MrBandit711 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My 2015 KX250F would blow your mind
    Great content !

  • @48blackshadowcafe32
    @48blackshadowcafe32 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Still have my 83 KX 80 and it’s so much fun! Just put pads on the rear drum and new master cylinder on front. Time to rip!

  • @Stratos53100
    @Stratos53100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome, great fix up from the guts... Thanks for that run, Reminds me of long ago w my several CR-80's as a kid and my 125's when i was 11+ and for those that remember had an Elsinore as well, also a used '86 KDX200 the year before the KIPS valve 'tech went into place (if i recall correctly) it was a fun bike. At 7 first bike i had one of the First White Yamaha MX-80's of the late 70's model Before Y went yellow. Great times.

  • @neilstandish455
    @neilstandish455 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You really don't need the clutch to change up. Right revs and a blip on the throttle. Love to see you guys on its 259 big brother 😱

  • @jeffrykopis5468
    @jeffrykopis5468 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Even after his bad Honduki wreck and shoulder injury, Ike is still Captain Fearless! But at least he's no longer GEARLESS! Wise of ya'all to suit up in full armor.

  • @speckledjim_
    @speckledjim_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kawasaki have always been so good at squeezing loads of power from tiny engines, its almost miraculous how they do it

  • @WingmanJohnny
    @WingmanJohnny 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great going guys. Yinz guys rock. Put one of 2 strokes on your homemade jet boat. It should really fly then

  • @JohnHill-jm7tm
    @JohnHill-jm7tm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always loving your videos 👍. This Old Man from Washington NC enjoying little later than usual. Fighting internet problems 😭. Love you Guys 🛵🧔💝💝💝

  • @williamvertrees2010
    @williamvertrees2010 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should definitely look at the plug and make sure it's brown and not white. The power to weight ratio on those bikes is awesome.

  • @tankdog03ify
    @tankdog03ify 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Makes me want to dig my 91 yz250 out the shed, very quick bike! I was smoking 400cc 4 strokes

  • @joshcoker88
    @joshcoker88 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ronnie Mac would approve of this episode!!! Thanks guys good stuff!!!

  • @aarongrabowski3775
    @aarongrabowski3775 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A quick slip of the clutch puts it right into the power band.

  • @Buck1954
    @Buck1954 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This 2 stroke dirt bike brings back great memories for this old Man, Charles! At 67, I still ride. I like to ride fast. The most frightened I've ever been is 2-stroke street bikes. That 2nd power band will paint your underwear. I've had the motorcycle shoot out from under me from a red light and ended laying on the seat until I could reposition.

  • @mx81mike
    @mx81mike 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I suggest you guys consider putting some fresh tires on before you really start going for the top of the board. Those old tires and the grass on the course will put someone on the ground with a quickness once you start riding the pipe. Speaking from many years of 2 stroke race bike experience. Ideally you want about 3 inches of suspension sag when your at a neutral riding position. If its compressing much more than that you may want to check the fork oil level in the forks and tighten up the spring on the rear shock. There should be some "clicker" adjusters on the forks (possibly at the top and bottom of each tube) and rear shock to dial in the compression and rebound also. I'm sure those bikes were thrashed for years so you got to decide if its worth the time and money to whip them back into shape.

  • @frederickgiordiano2105
    @frederickgiordiano2105 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you are jumping a dirt bike, you can adjust the bikes level by using the back wheel as a gyroscope. Nose low, gas it and the back wheel will come down; nose high, pull in the clutch and hit the back brake.

  • @mrutherford8590
    @mrutherford8590 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You keep it pegged shift with it pegged. Go into turns wide open at the rev limit then shift coming out of the turns.

  • @solo_dolo6553
    @solo_dolo6553 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had one stroked to 112 and she did 80 Love hearing you guys ripping that 80🤘

  • @carbide1968
    @carbide1968 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    chest protector is smart. I rebuilt for fun a 79' yamaha yz 490 rebuilt and sold it after the first ride. the power was so high it scared me. it was like new and more. it was a death machine for me. had to push start it because it wouldn't kick start with so much compression. 2 strokes are awesome.

  • @michaelnorman6905
    @michaelnorman6905 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The sound of my child hood had alot of fun on mine in my preteen years

  • @partystarter425
    @partystarter425 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cant wait for Wednesdays episode. Good luck and stay safe guys!!

  • @mr.k6136
    @mr.k6136 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My first 80 was a 96 KX 80 one of the best dirt bikes I ever owned thing absolutely ripped. The fact that you guys never rode two strokes before is actually somewhat sad I rode two strokes my whole life I plan to ride them for the rest of my life I don't care what anyone says they are the best they scream love the power band

  • @BillBogan
    @BillBogan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah, I had a CR80 when I was young. Just a sprocket change turns a 2 stroke into an animal. We called it staying on the pipe.

  • @grantbatista8582
    @grantbatista8582 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember when this channel had like 34k subscribers. Wow yall are killing it!