Ben I think that kind of series would be extremely great content. Showing people that you can train cattle to move into a system like yours from a conventional system would be wonderful.
I see you have a similar dilemma. I have a bull calf from my SP bull and the best, slickest, fattest, soundest cow with no vices. She is hands down the best. Only problem is she is red angus/hereford. He’s the youngest of the calves, but shows promise. What to do…A good animal is a good animal right? Interested to see what you do Ben
He's magnificent! You can sell him or add another herd but that's going to be more work for you. I'd be happy with both choices. I'm going t like the video no matter what.
If you have pasture space, just peel off some cows for this guy for comparison. People become "breed blind" and lock in to one thing. For commercial production, not seedstock, there is no reason to keep purebreds. Crossbred is best. The only reason you should have purebred cows is if you are a seedstock breeder, or have some niche market that rewards you for pures.
Ben, you’re coming up on a crossroads for deciding on “All in for TH-cam” or just let it putter and slowly grow over the years. Time, Energy and Passion are the assets you’d have to “put up” for making this new herd work, because economically staying with your SP genetics and growing that heard makes the most sense. I lean toward starting the new herd because i think you really have something to teach. Greg Judy has shown the 1/3,1/3,1/3 grazing well and keeps putting out everyday type content but with his grazing school and sit down education videos has explained that strategy well. Your 15% left behind nonselective strategy (or what Greg Judy calls “Nuke grazing “) strategy has not been explained online well - your really, if not the first then at the least the very best, at explaining this strategy and I REALLY appreciate it. Either way you’re successful but I agree with you that this creates a very cool teaching opportunity and will help create good quality content to grow your channel.
I appreciate the kind words. We are first and foremost a grazing operation, but I really do enjoy demonstrating and explaining what we’re doing to newcomers to this style of grazing
I would stick to 💯 South Poll. Greg Judy does this for a long time. And he says, his (SP) getting better and better. I would sell him or rent. He is good on grass and brings input into a herd with grain fed cows.
We’ve made the decision to sell our south poll herd. South polls are a great breed but I’m looking for more heat tolerance as well as some other traits. Greg’s herd works well in his system of selective grazing, but we are looking to run stocking rates about double of what he’s running. Remember that stocking rate is the #1 determinant in profitability in a cow/calf operation
I’d like to watch the series and keep him around. It’s hard to let go of a good animal just because of his genotype. Phenotype and performance are what really matter. Throw the textbook away.
Rather than getting likes. Do you have time to do it and will it have commercial value. In other words can you make money doing it? (I'm with holding my normal like for the moment while I think about it)
❤ I had a lot of great pros and cons of keeping him a lot of good information ❤DNA and what are the benefits of keeping him for 2 yrs as a Breeding Bull❤ I wouldn’t breed him with any first time heifers ❤ with complications arise ❤ alternate him 50%herd heifers then next year the other 50%.❤ then I would sell him after he was able to cover 100 % of 2nd time heifers ❤then i would sell him for $3500 or more if you can. Then I would buy great genetics semen from Greg Judy one of his macho bulls he sells them for $25 -$50 a straw.. you can cover 70 of the 1st time heifers ( Sire Red Angus) .. as for as the % of the new calves it’s 7/8 and by the standards it’s considered a pure South Polled cattle❤by the 3rd to the 4th year you will have 100% South Polled genetics on your farm.I wouldn’t keep any the bulls from the 1st breeding .make them into steers and use them to pay for the next AI semen on your heifers. ❤
Ben I think that kind of series would be extremely great content. Showing people that you can train cattle to move into a system like yours from a conventional system would be wonderful.
I'm down to learn. Watching from someone who is doing it real-time seems like a great opportunity before I give it a go.
Let’s go!
Great suggestion starting a separate herd but only if it truly benefits your operation.
I really like the second commercial herd idea especially with the surplus of forage you have right now
I agree!
I see you have a similar dilemma. I have a bull calf from my SP bull and the best, slickest, fattest, soundest cow with no vices. She is hands down the best. Only problem is she is red angus/hereford. He’s the youngest of the calves, but shows promise. What to do…A good animal is a good animal right? Interested to see what you do Ben
Sounds a great idea:)
Thanks!
He's magnificent! You can sell him or add another herd but that's going to be more work for you. I'd be happy with both choices. I'm going t like the video no matter what.
I'd be interested in seeing those videos.
Thanks!
If you have pasture space, just peel off some cows for this guy for comparison. People become "breed blind" and lock in to one thing. For commercial production, not seedstock, there is no reason to keep purebreds. Crossbred is best. The only reason you should have purebred cows is if you are a seedstock breeder, or have some niche market that rewards you for pures.
He is a good bull. Rent him to a neighbor? Let him run cleanup after your 60-day or whatever breeding season. Or?
Ben, you’re coming up on a crossroads for deciding on “All in for TH-cam” or just let it putter and slowly grow over the years. Time, Energy and Passion are the assets you’d have to “put up” for making this new herd work, because economically staying with your SP genetics and growing that heard makes the most sense. I lean toward starting the new herd because i think you really have something to teach. Greg Judy has shown the 1/3,1/3,1/3 grazing well and keeps putting out everyday type content but with his grazing school and sit down education videos has explained that strategy well. Your 15% left behind nonselective strategy (or what Greg Judy calls “Nuke grazing “) strategy has not been explained online well - your really, if not the first then at the least the very best, at explaining this strategy and I REALLY appreciate it. Either way you’re successful but I agree with you that this creates a very cool teaching opportunity and will help create good quality content to grow your channel.
I appreciate the kind words. We are first and foremost a grazing operation, but I really do enjoy demonstrating and explaining what we’re doing to newcomers to this style of grazing
Fine looking bull. I switched to South Polls 3 years ago but good cows are good cows and there is a market for good red angus stock
If he's the highest performing you may have bought the wrong SP bulls
I would like to see that series
RIDE HIM!!
I would stick to 💯 South Poll. Greg Judy does this for a long time. And he says, his (SP) getting better and better.
I would sell him or rent. He is good on grass and brings input into a herd with grain fed cows.
We’ve made the decision to sell our south poll herd. South polls are a great breed but I’m looking for more heat tolerance as well as some other traits. Greg’s herd works well in his system of selective grazing, but we are looking to run stocking rates about double of what he’s running. Remember that stocking rate is the #1 determinant in profitability in a cow/calf operation
He's a stud you could sell him in no time. Ide stick to the South poll
Have you considered line breeding
Export him to uk I’d buy him!😂
Don't you have capacity so this is not a bad idea?
Yes I do!
Sell. Keep your attention on your south poll cattle and your grass.
I’d like to watch the series and keep him around. It’s hard to let go of a good animal just because of his genotype. Phenotype and performance are what really matter. Throw the textbook away.
Start a new hurd
Let’s get to 400 Likes!
I like the concept of series but I’d trade for new blood
Rather than getting likes. Do you have time to do it and will it have commercial value. In other words can you make money doing it? (I'm with holding my normal like for the moment while I think about it)
Does he have a white spot on his forehead, or is that mud?
That’s a bald spot from knocking skulls with my biggest South Poll bull. They went at it for 2 days
Apptoach another farmer who has the same bull like yours and exchange.
Keep him buy more cows
Thanks for the input. I’m leaning that way. Let’s get to 400 likes
Sell him!
Just breed him to your cows that did not breed back grass genetics regardlesss of breed is worth quite a bit.
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not interested
❤ I had a lot of great pros and cons of keeping him a lot of good information ❤DNA and what are the benefits of keeping him for 2 yrs as a Breeding Bull❤ I wouldn’t breed him with any first time heifers ❤ with complications arise ❤ alternate him 50%herd heifers then next year the other 50%.❤ then I would sell him after he was able to cover 100 % of 2nd time heifers ❤then i would sell him for $3500 or more if you can. Then I would buy great genetics semen from Greg Judy one of his macho bulls he sells them for $25 -$50 a straw.. you can cover 70 of the 1st time heifers ( Sire Red Angus) .. as for as the % of the new calves it’s 7/8 and by the standards it’s considered a pure South Polled cattle❤by the 3rd to the 4th year you will have 100% South Polled genetics on your farm.I wouldn’t keep any the bulls from the 1st breeding .make them into steers and use them to pay for the next AI semen on your heifers. ❤
Sell him !