So I installed it on my Subaru Outback. It is AWESOME!!! Car behaves way differently! "Clanking" feel on rocks disappeared. Wobbly steering on uneven highway tarmac is no more! And in corners, oh man! Best stuff ever!
I've heard a lot of people say that they're a waste of money. I see it like your air filter box. You can drive around with it on and off for a good long time. Doesnt mean you shouldn't use it
Well a lot of people probably use it for look. If youre using your car for high speeding racing (not that phoney straight line “racing”) these will be effective. You ever go fast on a corner in a more normal car and it pushes all the weight toward one side? Strut bars as well as performance sways bars will be the ones handling all of that force and even the car out so that your literally gliding on a turn going 60-70mph or even more when you should be going 30-40
This strut really does work or feel if your car has very soft suspension. I cannot tell the difference from Mazda because Mazda has stiff suspension. But a avoiding acccident or slam your brake will benefit from this.
A one piece strut bar will be much stronger as there are no pivot points. Check out USR strut bars for comparison. They are also made from hollowed steel
The debate of the century, but its hard to say 100%. You see solid bars on dedicated track vehicles where the roads are flat and smooth as glass. Look at Nascar and everything is solid because there's no real issues of uneven roads. Look at the modern wrc cars like subaru and they're running 3 pieces. Bottom line, the bars help keep the front chasis in line and tires planted on the road during turns. On the streets I would probably run and be very happy with 3pc...but people also like to believe hard-core solid is best..because hard-core.
Depends on quality of material and thickness (some lesser material will need more to equal higher material). If money isn't an option, then I guess titanium or CF it is for you...but consider design too.
Thank you for posting this video. I have a 2001 Forester STI Tyoe M and want to fit strut braces to front and rear. Which material do you think is best, aluminium, Carbon Fibre or Steel. I am looking to improve chassis stability and also corning. Cheers 👍🏻
Are you making a custom one or buying off the shelf? I'd personally go with aluminum since carbon fiber is way more expensive for little gain in rigidity.
The joint in the STI strut bar is NOT to make it easier to install; it's to allow some flex that the engineers determined would be stiff enough but also flexible enough to allow some flexing, as no flex can lead to car hydroplaning and other problems that can lead to an destabilizing the car --> accident.
@@Nate-yr1jy I’d align after every new tire change unless old ones are unevenly worn like camber wear or toe out. If it drives in a straight line on a flat road with your hands off the steering wheel you likely won’t need an alignment. Some cases you don’t know if it needs an alignment until after road testing
Hi, in order for my strut brace to fit on my 2011 tts I have to remove the long plastics. My question is do I keep the plastics off or put back on after?
great video, just wonder if there is any disadvantage of installing a strut bar? For normal people driving a normal car, do we need strut bar? many thanks
as far as I know, and from personal experience, there isn't much of a downside aside from the cost obviously, and make sure the design and quality is adequate
how do you find the spec of how many lb feet of torque is needed? or it shouldnt matter much as long as its on there solidly tight right? ive heard people get the wrobg soec and end up breaking the strut
@@JCMediaYT or maby it is recommended in older cars. Metal creep Isn't visible, but it is there all the time! And it is another strut bar benefit: you counter that creep a bit!
yeah, i think youtube algorithm is being weird. the video wasn't being put in people's feed at all, it was getting like 2-3 impressions per day. sorry if the reupload bothered you or anything
@@JCMediaYT lolol not borhered at all, i was just currious. Im getting wheels, tires, sway bars and coilovers for my car soon, i totally forgot about a strut bar, i actually really appreciate this vid.
@@heyitsfranklynn168 ahh cool, glad you found it helpful man! just got a set of wheels for mine too hahah, coilovers will probably happen sometime in the future when I save up
Vertical load vs lateral (side-to-side)...the flexible bar is meant to give a little in vertical load situations but will remain firm in lateral load ones....
usually you would get the most benefit from the front, but the rear's would also help. just note that sometimes it may require you to remove or cut some of the padding or foam in the rear because of fitment issues
@@waniskandar4612 yup, ultra racing makes pretty good chassis bracing products for quite a lot of cars. I don't have them personally yet but I've heard never heard of any problems from others
@@JCMediaYT that's good to know! seems like a pretty good and reliable brand from what ive seen and heard from consumers. you earned a new sub brother hope it helps!
properly designed strut bars with pivot points can definitely help, otherwise why would manufacturers use it on their own products, including in motorsport. A solid one would function better though.
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So I installed it on my Subaru Outback.
It is AWESOME!!!
Car behaves way differently! "Clanking" feel on rocks disappeared. Wobbly steering on uneven highway tarmac is no more!
And in corners, oh man!
Best stuff ever!
After understeering my car i bought one of these to improve my cars cornering limits and it turned out great alot more grippy feeling to it
good to know someone noticed a difference after installing strut bars, thanks for sharing!
Grate?💀
@@ctsvblk opps I mean “great” 😭
WOW.. This is BY FAR the MOST INFORMATIVE video about STRUT BAR. Bravo sir. Good job! And thank you!👏:)
thank you so much! 🙂
I've heard a lot of people say that they're a waste of money. I see it like your air filter box. You can drive around with it on and off for a good long time. Doesnt mean you shouldn't use it
I'd say the benefits definitely depend on the car you're putting it on. Ie: you'll get more of a benefit from installing strut bars on an
Well a lot of people probably use it for look. If youre using your car for high speeding racing (not that phoney straight line “racing”) these will be effective. You ever go fast on a corner in a more normal car and it pushes all the weight toward one side? Strut bars as well as performance sways bars will be the ones handling all of that force and even the car out so that your literally gliding on a turn going 60-70mph or even more when you should be going 30-40
@@trackshun precisely
@@JCMediaYT glad I read this I was about to get strut and sway bars for my sti
@@Reefurr cool man, glad I could help out!
Adds under steer to front wheel, reduces it in rear wheel do to flex.
This strut really does work or feel if your car has very soft suspension. I cannot tell the difference from Mazda because Mazda has stiff suspension. But a avoiding acccident or slam your brake will benefit from this.
yep, for sure!
Which Mazda did you install it on?
Mostly, how much tightening torque in foot pounds is needed to fasten the bar?
they don't have to be on very tight, around 14 foot pounds should be plenty. overtorquing will easily snap the bolts
Is it true that solid (one-piece) strut bars offer more stability than 3 piece?
depends on how well built it is, quality 3 piece strut bars can be as good as one piece but also be easier to install
A one piece strut bar will be much stronger as there are no pivot points. Check out USR strut bars for comparison. They are also made from hollowed steel
The debate of the century, but its hard to say 100%.
You see solid bars on dedicated track vehicles where the roads are flat and smooth as glass. Look at Nascar and everything is solid because there's no real issues of uneven roads.
Look at the modern wrc cars like subaru and they're running 3 pieces. Bottom line, the bars help keep the front chasis in line and tires planted on the road during turns. On the streets I would probably run and be very happy with 3pc...but people also like to believe hard-core solid is best..because hard-core.
What material is best for strut bar?
Steel, aluminum, alloy, titanium, or cf?
Depends on quality of material and thickness (some lesser material will need more to equal higher material). If money isn't an option, then I guess titanium or CF it is for you...but consider design too.
Any material strong enough to transfer the forces to the opposite side, but quality bars usually snap by design if something hits you from the side.
Thank you for posting this video. I have a 2001 Forester STI Tyoe M and want to fit strut braces to front and rear. Which material do you think is best, aluminium, Carbon Fibre or Steel. I am looking to improve chassis stability and also corning. Cheers 👍🏻
Are you making a custom one or buying off the shelf? I'd personally go with aluminum since carbon fiber is way more expensive for little gain in rigidity.
The joint in the STI strut bar is NOT to make it easier to install; it's to allow some flex that the engineers determined would be stiff enough but also flexible enough to allow some flexing, as no flex can lead to car hydroplaning and other problems that can lead to an destabilizing the car --> accident.
Hydroplaning? Really?
@@wiciuwiciu2783 yea i don't know how accurate that is either
How the heck did hydroplaning suddenly appear? Lol. It was all good until that.
very helpful, thank u!!
No problem!
Are these strut bars specific to cars or do they fit on every car or universal type of thing?
the better ones are specific to each car (but some may be compatible across a few cars of the same brand)
Kick ass vid dude helped a lot🔥
glad it helped! appreciate the feedback!
Will this benefit a 23 year old mk7 honda civic, keep things stable and tight. Doing mixed city and motorway driving.
Wouldn't hurt to get one. You probably won't feel a drastic change but it should help tighten up the chassis, so yes I'd get one.
Are you saying a track car doesn’t do corners dom ? 😅 not everyone thinks of drag as track i think of actual tracks like laguna seca or something..
I have a 93 eldorado cadillac 4.6 coupe. It has strut bar but I'd like to put a new after market strut bar. Where would I find on for this car.
Does the alignment change after removing the bolts on strut tower?
as long as you do it while the car is on the ground, nope it shouldn't
It only holds in place. As long as you dont lift the car nothing will happend
@@JCMediaYT what if i change my tires, will it affect the alignment? thank you
@@Nate-yr1jy I’d align after every new tire change unless old ones are unevenly worn like camber wear or toe out. If it drives in a straight line on a flat road with your hands off the steering wheel you likely won’t need an alignment.
Some cases you don’t know if it needs an alignment until after road testing
What’s the instrumental mental💪🏾
its looks awesome man also make car more stable i believe . thanks for your nice present sir
Would you recommend a strut bar on a 10th gen civic?
Yup, wouldn't hurt to get one.
Hi, in order for my strut brace to fit on my 2011 tts I have to remove the long plastics. My question is do I keep the plastics off or put back on after?
was it the front or rear strut brace? does it look like you can keep the plastics or does it need trimming?
@@JCMediaYT Front, iv'e seen other videos and now know the plastic can be put back on for my car. Thanks though :)
@@antosfunb oh cool, that's good to hear then. hope you enjoy the strut bar haha
great video, just wonder if there is any disadvantage of installing a strut bar? For normal people driving a normal car, do we need strut bar? many thanks
as far as I know, and from personal experience, there isn't much of a downside aside from the cost obviously, and make sure the design and quality is adequate
@@JCMediaYT many thanks!
None. But it also doesn't benefit normal driving people as well so that's why manufacturers sort of skip over that check box.
I thought you needed to raise the car partially off the ground before securing the strut bar?
nope, it shouldn't be necessary
Didn't torque the bolts?
Btw, does this help with power steering?
nope, it shouldn't have any effect
how do you find the spec of how many lb feet of torque is needed? or it shouldnt matter much as long as its on there solidly tight right? ive heard people get the wrobg soec and end up breaking the strut
if i'm not wrong, you should tighten it to the factory spec
Factory spec, or you can calculate based on thread size and bolt grade if youre worried
Just for comment sake: does the Forester bar fit any year Forester? Looking for mods for an 06’ N/A
ummm I'm not too sure about this. You can try go onto rallysportdirect.com
I heard to lift front of the car, to make wheels hang loose.
Then you install strut bar
i think a stiffer sway bar would be better at that
@@JCMediaYT or maby it is recommended in older cars.
Metal creep Isn't visible, but it is there all the time!
And it is another strut bar benefit: you counter that creep a bit!
What type of Strut Bar is suitable for Subaru Crosstreck / XV?
not too sure, but there's plenty of brands that should be compatible
Why the re upload?
yeah, i think youtube algorithm is being weird. the video wasn't being put in people's feed at all, it was getting like 2-3 impressions per day. sorry if the reupload bothered you or anything
@@JCMediaYT lolol not borhered at all, i was just currious. Im getting wheels, tires, sway bars and coilovers for my car soon, i totally forgot about a strut bar, i actually really appreciate this vid.
@@heyitsfranklynn168 ahh cool, glad you found it helpful man! just got a set of wheels for mine too hahah, coilovers will probably happen sometime in the future when I save up
2:49 why the bar is flexible in the middle?
Vertical load vs lateral (side-to-side)...the flexible bar is meant to give a little in vertical load situations but will remain firm in lateral load ones....
@SummerBRZ exactly!
Should there be one installed on the back ass well?
usually you would get the most benefit from the front, but the rear's would also help. just note that sometimes it may require you to remove or cut some of the padding or foam in the rear because of fitment issues
Been thinking about putting this on my charger rt, what do you think?
go for it! cheap mod that definitely helps...
Hello where can I get a strut bar for 2021 Toyota Camry xse from?
ultra racing should be a pretty good choice regardless of what country you're from
@@JCMediaYT hi! is it the same case for just about the majority of cars? i see a lot of people rockin the ultra racings
@@waniskandar4612 yup, ultra racing makes pretty good chassis bracing products for quite a lot of cars. I don't have them personally yet but I've heard never heard of any problems from others
@@JCMediaYT that's good to know! seems like a pretty good and reliable brand from what ive seen and heard from consumers. you earned a new sub brother hope it helps!
@@waniskandar4612 yup, I do plan on getting some myself for the STi. thanks a lot man, appreciate it!
Ummm did I miss the cons….?
1:50
1:08 that is dual wishbone. You Subaru guys wouldn't know that though.
did you even watch the part after that where I literally show an animation of a Macpherson setup?
strut bars need to be all on piece. NO PIVOT POINTS,
properly designed strut bars with pivot points can definitely help, otherwise why would manufacturers use it on their own products, including in motorsport. A solid one would function better though.
@@JCMediaYT
needs to be steel and have no pivot points. you will see a lil improvement with what u have. but nothing compared to a real fsb.
What's up with that stupid song at the end 🤦🏽♂️
your speech volume too low, and BOMMM the music goes loud
yup, fixed this in the newer videos