Education cannot guarantee getting a job, but it provides better opportunity of getting a job .I live in the US, and all the companies I have worked for all required candidates having a college degree.
I moved to Taiwan when I was 9 years old. I grew up in Taiwanese public education system for 9 years then I went to Australia for college. I was an educator in the States (now retired). I remembered one of my students’ mom (Taiwanese Parent) talked to me and would like me to give out more homework to her kid. So I had a little talk with her, I asked her were you born here? She said, “No”. Then I asked her, “when did you come to the States?”, she replied, “when I was 2nd grade”. I said, “why did you move here?” She told me her dad didn’t like the education system in Taiwan, too much memorization, punishment, homework, and grades… grades… grades… then I gave her a look and said, “well, look what you are doing to your kid now”. Then she realized what she did… she never mention again after out talk… I think the most important thing is to educate the parents to change Taiwan education system… (I know is hard, but someone has to do it), I am glad you are doing this episode…❤
Cole is really good at interviewing people, I like seeing people sharing their personal views on different issues. I never knew what it was like to be a “foreigner” to grow up in Taiwan. A lot of things that I didn’t notice or think about it. The education system in Taiwan was like training lots of soldiers who just follow orders. I am glad knowing that it’s not only me who feels the same way about it.
Thanks for speaking your truth. Lots of really great comments. I hope love can be the focus we place on kids to help nurture successes and confidence. Your story was greatly appreciated by me my friend.
You guys share precisely what I want to say to my Taiwanese friends!! What kids really need are being who you are, doing what you want, and knowing whatever you're doing! Be a independent thinker!!! Finally, the most important is, to be kind!!! Hey, 在台灣的父母們， 這是一部很好的影片，分享給周遭的父母親吧，他們的孩子會感謝你的。
THANK YOU! Critical thinking is one of the most important things we've never learned from school under Taiwan's education system, not even in college! Never heard that until I came to the states pursuing my master's degree. Yes, we need to teach our kids critical thinking, and it is not only good for their life, but also is going to change the future of Taiwan (politically).
I totally agree. I grew up in Taiwan my whole life and I’m raising my family in the US. The cultural shock is actually how much we, as parents, know about ourself and then how you’d like to guide your kids to known about themselves.
I love this video, very educational. I think it's very hard to change the mindset of Taiwanese parents because their mindset is about how to teach kids to become successful in their lives. The definition of success means good jobs, decent pay, and an amazing job title that peole feel envied of. BEing different is good, but Taiwan is a place where team work is valued more than individualism, which is applied to many Asian countries.
WOW , this is definitely best English learning for me ( im 50y ) , you use local story to show how to speak English naturally and fluently like a real human in our environment , not just a student in classroom . thank you so much . Also a cram/exam kinds of life wont lead us to a better life , even you win master from NTU or best, exhausted and competing company in Hsinchu science parks , cause its a small island to limit us literally. Open you mind and move , travel to more places to experience more life style and humanities.
I am surprised to hear her speaking American English so fluently, since she grew up speaking German & Chinese. And I know so many Taiwanese having problem speaking English.
It's usually easier for Europeans to learn English, since English is part of the group of European languages, and Mandarin Chinese isn't. She could also have improved it during her 7 years in Qatar working with different nationalities in her airline career.
@ymhktravel I agree with you as to the question raised by the others about how she can speak English so fluently being born to a family of German father and Polish mother.
I left Taiwan once I finished my college and military service obligation many years ago and came to the US. I felt that I was typecasted by others in Taiwan. It doesn’t look like that has changed. I changed field of study in the US and just followed what I am good at it. Everything turned up great. Now I am a retired software engineer living in San Diego.
However, engineers and scientists from Taiwan originally were very well received by US tech companies. Because we follow the rules, are dedicated to our jobs and don't get involved in company politics. I can't tell you whether it is because of education or culture. I benefited from people setting that example in the US before 1980. I haven't run into young engineers from Taiwan lately, not sure what the situation is for them. Morris Chang of TSMC saw those specific qualities and that is why he ran the company from Taiwan. Chang knew that TSMC wouldn't be successful to do the same in the US. Dedication to the TSMC jobs is more important than invention. Therefore, I think neither TSMC nor Intel's semi chip manufacturing business in the US will become successful. Nor can TSMC take Taiwan to the next phase of leading edge technology. For that said, Taiwan's education has to change to have a chance.
That's why I fleed to western country and pursued my goal in music education 35 years ago. I am happy living in the US. As I give private lessons, I face many conflicts from my students' parents who are Chinese. They always ask me if their children are gifted in music/piano; if not, they wonder something else. My answer to them is: Developing children's hobbies is more important, that will bring the lifelong intreasts and give them more choices in their future.
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Let educational institutions understand and save our children,please
我的女兒二十幾年前在台灣念小學，我不理老師那一套，她現在活的很出色。但不是每個老師這樣古板，也有很捧的老師
我是一個女兒的爸爸，我完全同意你們的說法，我覺得現在的小孩在台灣的教育系統承受很多不必要的壓力，我也常常告誡自己不要成為糟糕的家長，要成為我女兒情緒的避風港，讓她能開開心心的長大！
真的要創造一個像是學習又是玩樂的系統真的蠻困難的，在現今的教育體制下，完全沒有壓力，只想玩樂的孩子，尤其是學齡前的孩子，一直只有玩，家長也沒有給予任何玩中學習的課程，上了小學，真的很慘，寫字醜醜不打緊，還會說手酸了，可以不要寫嗎？不開心就會哭鬧，會覺得不像是新生，反而像是幼兒園，這樣整個行為要扭轉已經是非常困難了，問題是這樣的孩子不是少數
先把教育部長換下來再說吧
你可以不要你女兒上學補習啊，沒有人強破你阿
說得很好！謝謝您對台灣教育的建議。我很贊同讓小孩去自由探索，什麼才是他最喜歡的，什麼才是他最專長的。讓孩子學會做決定，做選擇。
甚至從失敗中再站起來！這才是最重要的。 讓我們一起努力，讓台灣更好！
我來為這個台灣美女加油😊😊😊😊😊😊
其實學歷、成績、職業，這些在外國也一樣重要，所有人類社會都一樣。
但是就是說 並非每個人都適合讀書。現在的問題是許多不適合讀書的人也被無知的家長強迫要考上好大學。這來自一個錯誤的觀念，也就是你考試考不好是因為不夠努力，別人考得好是因為比你用功。事實上不是如此，就好像跑步，有的人隨便練一練就跑得很快，你再怎麼努力也跑不贏他。會讀書的人他們通常在學生時期就有過人的記憶力或數理的理解力，他們花很少的時間就能把書讀得很好。期待小孩考上好的大學、有個好的職業是一回事，但小孩適不適合讀書是另一回事。在這個社會上，有個喜歡的工作、有謀生的能力，是很現實也很重要的一件事，這關乎到幸福與否。如果小孩不適合讀書，應盡早的找到有興趣的一技之長，待成長一些再補充知識也可以。不是說努力不重要，也不是說好學校不重要，但找到適合自己的位置、有謀生能力，比是否考上好的大學更重要。如果你的工作及環境是你所適合及喜歡的，那麼人生基本已成功了8成。
說的非常棒
臺灣社會在惡意塑造本國除非有政治認同，否則會驅趕甚至惡意製造失業。政府輔助，還惡意洗滌公私校合併幫助學生在企業競爭取得優勢，問題是被剝削失業的人不是天生有錢人，他們用西方家產主義看待不喜歡的人，賣了家產可以有好的享樂主義，而有問題濫用社福，臺灣只慢了美國10年左右時間，但是已經在低年層現在進行式
Education cannot guarantee getting a job, but it provides better opportunity of getting a job .I live in the US, and all the companies I have worked for all required candidates having a college degree.
👍您的剖析超深入且全面，相當優質！
我住美國近30年，老實說，這種分數決定ㄧ切，文憑至上的教育觀念，是普遍亞裔家長（日、韓、華）的育兒思想，這種思想不管住在哪一國，都像是刻在DNA裡的記憶，看到孩子拿著不及格的分數就會焦慮，害怕孩子被貼上廢柴的標籤，進而逼著孩子去上課後輔導，然後造成親子關係緊張，甚至對立。亞裔父母期望孩子朝自己認為的「成功道路」走的結果，就是孩子一但翅膀硬了，便頭也不回地飛離巢穴，因爲那曾經養育他們的家，對孩子而言是痛苦的牢籠，是沒有愛的地獄⋯
然後再傳給下一代，相親難相愛，一代接一代
把孩子養育成醫生律師會計師，他們就有能力飛出去。變成廢柴自然會乖乖賴在家 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
父母：孩子永遠是孩子（上對下權力關係），我就是對的，所以不管你幾歲永遠不會尊重你。
在繼續討論以前，只問你，如果你想去一個演唱會，但是你連門票都沒有，你根本進不去。
你只能在會場外看別人進去。再說，如果你進會場了，你只有最低等級門票，所以你在離演唱歌手很遠遠到看不清楚的地方。
但是有人拿的是 vip 區的票，搖滾區的票。
講這個是什麼意思？
你的學校學歷是你進社會時，能不能進某些大企業大公司的門票。
如果你沒門票，很抱歉，你進不了公司。
如果你要做的工作不是那些大公司大企業，而且不要求學歷，那當然沒關係。
既然大家那麼不想升學唸書，那你唸到高中畢業就可以說不念了。
同時也請自行去找工作養活自己。高中畢業滿十八，民法刑法都是成年人了。
說真的，你一早決定好你就念的高中，基本上，什麼補習輔導的錢可以通通省下。
不讀大學，還能省下四年學雜費生活費。
不是每個人的家長都是有錢人，有很多錢是你的家長從他的伙食費娛樂費用摳下來的。
他可能本來可以去看電影，去旅遊，這些錢都因為要給你讀書給省下來了。
不想讀書，國小就趕快跟家長說清楚。真的。
但是也記得，高中畢業要能自己去找工作出去獨立生活。
你住太久了，現在已經不是分數至上的時代了，跟美國一樣是階級至上的時代
台灣的教育制度、環境正在改變，確實父母親的觀念需要跟著改變！
沒變啊…是你們跟不上。而且跟上的有問題。在加上社福教育體系人員心態有問題。在全球利益至上主義下加劇問題，因為孩子本身為了利益什麼都做，和喊打喊殺中國有何差異？
@@jing-junhaung930中國的學生遠沒有台灣孩子壓抑，人家競爭壓力是有的還更多，但是沒有霸凌文化
@@jing-junhaung930鴻海在中國的廠不准產線員聊天，上廁所有次數限制，錢多給一點點可是強度巨大，在對岸是惡名昭彰，這都是台灣病態文化輸出，很多人還以此為榮，才真正可悲
@@vicye0921跟我在微博豆瓣逛了十年看到的不一樣欸😅
@@vicye0921你在開玩笑吧，中國衡水中學請去瞭解一下。
謝謝有這一段視頻 , 我是傳統臺灣教育制度下學習的人 , 我已經66歲了 , 我的孩子也是在這樣的教育制度度過 , 我會分享這個視頻給他們 , 希望他們能改變對他們兒女的教育觀念、態度 , 讓他們的孩子在愉快的環境成長 , 成為有創造力和解決問題的思考力 , 做一個對自己負責並愛護父母親及維護家族榮譽的人。
自己失敗就算還想延續改革🤭
怎麼？你老自己沒做到現在要孩子要做到？？？🤭
跨世代指導你有想過你孩子的孩子會怎麼想？🤔
以前沒有這些觀念啊，現在有了新觀點，進而開始促成改變是好事吧
這集太讚了！台灣在教育改革上始終沒辦法做好，原來..是對「教育者」的改革做得不夠～
Tyna在這裡的談話讓我愛上她了 ^^ 坦率真誠且美到魅力四射。謝謝Cole切入教育這一塊
台灣需要兩位提出不斷提出看法才能有更好的未來，務實地說才有“文明國家所得“的未來
Tyna、Cole，兩位的觀點是台灣迫切需要的，請幫助我們台灣，感激！
臺灣的教育、交通、觀光真的需要再改進；
謝謝雷提納提出許多很寶貴的意見及看法；
很可惜，她跟媽媽最後還是選擇離開臺灣；
希望臺灣的父母及教育部官員都來看這集！👍😄🙏
台灣的父母們及所有人才是左右台灣教育方向的源頭，台灣人普遍的思維還是萬般皆下品，唯有讀書高；更不希望自己的孩子將來工作辛苦(台灣找工作是看學歷的)，都希望能坐在辦公室吹冷氣。而台灣教育部要改善的是師資培養的問題，如何讓老師除了關心孩子的學習之外，還能觀察出孩子的心情。
@@ashleyyou8684 我是讀完三種高中教師沒去學校的人，教學制度本身就有很大的問題，老師都自顧不暇，哪還有時間理學生！
除非本身家庭背景富裕，不在乎學校給的不合理壓力，及恐龍家長的抱怨，那些老師才有可能關心孩子的學習！
@@giannishen 我說的是整個社會的問題，而你在抱怨個人的經歷，請問你這表達是想凸顯什麼?
@ashleyyou8684 我舉的例子的就是凸顯出整個社會的問題，跟抱怨一點都沾不上邊！
Every country has problems that need improvement. I have faith that Taiwan will grow and mature when it’s ready.
我覺得臺灣這幾十年真的有在改變，也許還是很多人覺得改變太慢，但是我們可貴的是每個人都有發表意見的自由，也顧慮到多方的意見不想變得過於武斷的氛圍，所以進展中總是需要多方理解、溝通與協商，這樣可能的確步調慢。但是很感謝有這集節目，有類似這種探討教育的節目，希望更多父母能夠從自己開始打破「我也是這樣長大」的框架，能夠願意重新學習「要成為孩子的朋友和同時也要成為父母之間」的拿捏，相信大家會進步的！我們有在進步的，肯定自己並且有也繼續努力！提供給孩子們一個安心的氛圍！
說的一點都不錯 要打破框架 限制性的信念要改變 謝謝你們
謝謝你們有經歷過才知道教育也要跟得上時代而改變你們都是很好的題材應你們很棒的推手加油😊🎉🎉
這段影片非常的好。我自身未婚是我自己選擇。而我的妹妹在上周剛生了第二胎，看完之後我選擇分享這段影片給她，使她和她老公可以讓下一代去做孩子他們想做的事。
哈哈我五年級生都會經歷從小學被打到高中畢業，補習班也打，那個年代真是瘋狂的年代
非常認同2位的看法，最重要的是父母改變才能放過小孩
I moved to Taiwan when I was 9 years old. I grew up in Taiwanese public education system for 9 years then I went to Australia for college. I was an educator in the States (now retired). I remembered one of my students’ mom (Taiwanese Parent) talked to me and would like me to give out more homework to her kid. So I had a little talk with her, I asked her were you born here? She said, “No”. Then I asked her, “when did you come to the States?”, she replied, “when I was 2nd grade”. I said, “why did you move here?” She told me her dad didn’t like the education system in Taiwan, too much memorization, punishment, homework, and grades… grades… grades… then I gave her a look and said, “well, look what you are doing to your kid now”. Then she realized what she did… she never mention again after out talk… I think the most important thing is to educate the parents to change Taiwan education system… (I know is hard, but someone has to do it), I am glad you are doing this episode…❤
Tyna真的辛苦了，我們的童年環境真的需要改善，很慶幸我們都撐過來了
台灣現在也有華德福教育學校。希望全世界一起來改變台灣更好。每個孩子都是台灣的重要資產，每個孩子都要幫助他發揮其特色力量最大化。
華德福….很貴😂
@@eason3333ify有公立的華得福
罰寫跟體罰真的是學生時期最愚蠢的事情，我有同學還可以同時拿五支筆罰寫😅；更不要說那些被拿課椅板凳、熱融膠條或是愛的小手體罰的時候。現在回想都還是可以深刻感受到老師們對於考試不好同學的嘴臉😌。
所以我尊敬的老師非常少,沒有幾個老師值得我尊敬的.
我不覺得老師給了我多少,他們只是領薪水做了他們該做的事,沒有幾個會對學生付出關心的,反而有一部分是一直在傷害學生.
我出生高雄 我53歲 我很討厭台灣的填鴨式的教育 在學校也被老師打過 我很討厭台灣的教育 所以我單身
重點是還會用2張硬卡片固定筆！讓他整齊一排
@@MTKG-00001 我即便以前功課非常好，還是有被打的可能，我是沒有那麼大的恨，主要我覺得畢竟沒有達標，事後畢業了，老師對我們的態度非常好，我都了解當初老師內心是為我們好，算是管教，雖然當初的作法已不能被容忍於現今社會了，我還是對以前教過我的老師，心存感激
Cole is really good at interviewing people, I like seeing people sharing their personal views on different issues. I never knew what it was like to be a “foreigner” to grow up in Taiwan. A lot of things that I didn’t notice or think about it. The education system in Taiwan was like training lots of soldiers who just follow orders. I am glad knowing that it’s not only me who feels the same way about it.
這集真的該讓全台灣的父母看，非常感同身受，而且是非常棒的觀念
我國小被老師誘騙補習被父親逼讀私立國中最後逼讀沒興趣的科系
逼讀私立國中已經很痛苦最後的逼讀沒興趣的科系讓一生烏有😮💨
然後我不顧老婆反對就是沒讓孩子補習過
最後大學選科系孩子要我別逼他逼讀沒興趣的科系我選擇放手
孩子第三名畢業現在碩二
孩子可以為興趣求學問讓我羨慕又忌妒
這是一部超有意義的影片
對於在台灣的所有人
尤其是台灣的教育環境
雷緹娜真的很了解台灣
很高興看到你們兩位合作的影片
謝謝
Thank you 😊
台灣的困擾是，自從1949以後被移植了「赴京趕考」的價值觀，學校、工作機會、賺大錢都在「京城」，因此不可以輸在起跑點，要拚才會贏？高中以前的小朋友最重要的是「健康長大」！在遊戲中學習「團隊精神」，學習團體生活中「尊重他人」學習「守法」！
我跟雷堤娜差不多年紀，我們小時候真的就是考不到老師要的分數或沒寫作業就是打，還有被手捏轉耳朵，再來就是罰寫，小學時期常常沒寫作業，每天被打被老師羞辱是日常，我小學一二年級老師現在看來真的很恐怖，根本就是在摧毀小孩的自信和童年。
謝謝Christina 的分享，你的經歷與想法都對台灣很重要，因為台灣人需要的是多元的觀點，從不同角度看事情真的很重要，可以幫我們台灣人看到自身的不足。
感謝你也感謝Fogle！！！希望你們在台灣過得平安快樂。
我38歲
也是從這種教育體制下長大的
我完全同意這種教育制度的方式需要改善
除了影片中提到父母的觀念要改變
我自己也反覆思考
從上位者的角度回推回來
會是什麼樣的想法
如果我是一個面試主管
在一堆履歷海中
怎麼挑到我需要的人才
第一關當然先看學歷
我也知道
學歷不等於能力
但學歷一定等於你對事情的認真或認命
沒有那種不看書
上課睡覺
就會考到公立的
就算有也是極少數
成績代表一定的
記憶力、判斷力、學習力、邏輯力
所以成績學歷有它的重要性
那既然它是重要的
大人們就會用各種手段
來要求學生達到這個目的
而我們如果無法改變規則
那就要在現有的規則裡尋求突破
而這個又是另外一個話題了
完全同意學歷等於一定程度的認真、認命
Love it! I'm an English teacher and I'm with you guys 100%.
Parents need to give kids time to play and not like everyone else.
真的⋯長大之後才發現很多事情才正開始自我學習，其實很希望成長階段就開始找尋自己想要的人生目標或快樂⋯才不會長大容易迷失自己，迷失自己是很可怕的😢
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又來看Cole Fogle了，廢話不多說趕緊先按個讚
這是我關注這個頻道後看的第二支影片，非常喜歡你們分享的故事與觀點！受益良多👍🏻
謝謝！要有不一樣的聲音，說實話的勇氣，台灣的大家才能更幸福、更進步。
我小時候，我們全班同學都被老師打過手心⋯⋯🤣🤣
外國人臉孔這是不會改變的，看妳用什麼心態去面對任何事情，亞洲人去歐美也是外國人臉孔更會被歧視甚至在路上有可能被暴力言語攻擊，但很多人還是會想辦法可以融入當地生活，很多事情看妳用什麼想法去想吧
現在老師都不太敢打人了...但我覺得成績真的不是那麼重要,教育對台灣來說仍有很大的進步空間....
還是會罵人
Thank man for the great talk , was really fun 🤩 🎉
Thanks for speaking your truth. Lots of really great comments. I hope love can be the focus we place on kids to help nurture successes and confidence. Your story was greatly appreciated by me my friend.
Mr. Cole Fogle and the lady, Taiwan needs people like you, go go !
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賞心悅目~才藝兼備的女孩
台灣的教育體制真的要從根本去改變！
要改變的是家長,這點我滿同意他們的看法
This video is very valuable for Parents and Children in Taiwan. I will share it with all our friends and family.
Thanks for sharing!!
我從小沒有上過補習班，而且國立高中的校風跟縣/市立或私立高中真的差很多。課就照教育部規定，不會有多餘的課，老師不會管你，也有很多社團活動。有碰到有些人都沒有補習，就靠社團時間結束後的晚自習考上醫學院。下課到晚自習間沒去補習的同學不是在教室打牌（遊戲王之類的）、看漫畫、玩手遊，就是去游泳或打籃球，為了替誰慶生晚自習偷偷在教室煮火鍋、跟同學一起翹課去吃冰的事情也都幹過。就我所知至少台北、新竹、台中、台南、高雄等老牌的第一、二志願國立高中校風都差不多是這樣，Kristina 上的高中應該就是那樣的學校。我想就是要跨進那個門檻的國中時期，是最痛苦的吧？每天老師上課都在趕進度，一切都是為了考試的生活。父母是否有辦法帶領孩子，走過這段時間就變得很重要，除非孩子自己很聰明。當然其他學校也能這樣開放還是最好，不過校風文化這種東西不是那麼容易改變的。
以前的填鴨式教育真的是逼學生們成為一樣的人,現在資訊開放,希望孩子們能成為多采多姿的成人😔
臺灣需要有愛的教育，但愛裡也要有管教，我們都需要學習，感謝主
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太妙了！特別當中一句話，讓我感觸，父母為何左右孩子的未來，反問父母，自己這個年紀，也不知道自己在幹嘛～～
完全認同說有關教育的部分，多重視孩子內心的想法，不要想著要操控孩子，做小孩的引導者，才是成功的教育
看到你們的影片我非常有感覺，我自己也是一個叛逆的小孩，也很感謝我的父母包容跟支持，我希望我也可以當一個好的父母支持我的孩子快樂的長大🎉❤
雷堤娜在很小的時候就上過新聞，主要是要拿到台灣國籍超難，她當時已經在台灣住了6年了！
Oh my gosh, I’m so happy to see you here, Tina❤ You both are one of my favorite TH-camr!!! Thanks for sharing, Cole! 💕
You are so welcome!
我喜歡這段對台灣教育反思的影片 !! 謝謝 Cole Fogle 與 雷小姐 !
我是一個課後共學團的老師，確實我最想改變的其實是家長😅
我始終覺得
「教育」最難教的是大人
不管是教育體制、長輩、旁人
甚至是父母本人...
你們說得真的太好了。台灣有在努力改變，但過去的教育制度下長大的父母們，要他們轉變太難了，太多焦慮太多擔心太多不得不了。但儘管如此，還是要努力守護和為孩子們爭取空間。
現在臺灣的教育為式逐年的在改進，個人覺得最該改變的是家長，家長的意見往往影嚮教育制度，小孩該是在遊戲中學習成長，我不在乎小孩的分數，住學校旁但常遲到，把電腦硬碟Format（Dos），這是小孩在成長中常發生的事
家長絕大多數是愚昧無知的,尤其是那些只要求自己孩子成績好,認為孩子讀書只是為了能找到好工作的那一些.
It's a very educational video for Taiwanese, especially the parents. 100% agree
Thanks !
You guys share precisely what I want to say to my Taiwanese friends!! What kids really need are being who you are, doing what you want, and knowing whatever you're doing! Be a independent thinker!!! Finally, the most important is, to be kind!!!
Hey, 在台灣的父母們， 這是一部很好的影片，分享給周遭的父母親吧，他們的孩子會感謝你的。
This lady is speaking the very truths of our weaknesses.
堤娜說得好
Great talk! Thanks!
Glad you liked it!
😮說的真好，心理健康是最重要❤
好喜歡你們自然又毫無拘束的聊天方式~我看得聽得也很舒服~台灣有你們真好~
我是一個女兒的爸爸，真的非常感謝你們對教育的看法，啟發了我很多，我會把你們的理念用來教育我的小女兒。祝你們平安順利、全家安康。
很開心影片可以帶給你啟發，謝謝你❤️
這集非常好，讓很多年輕一代的父母有更多對教育的看法👍👍👍
台灣的父母真的 不太了解小孩的想法 只會以自己為準則 不過也開始有父母試著改變 所以需要時間和大家的努力 使台灣變更好
我想離家出走了
愛玩是孩子的天性但也不能讓他養成懶惰. 要鼓勵他學習做喜歡的事。父母不用懂得他的喜好去教他。他自己會學他喜歡的事
我覺得這集說得太好了,我真的非常需要改變自己
很棒的教育議題，讚👍
Love this video talking about education in Taiwan from different points of view. I really hope Taiwan's education can become better.
很認同，前幾年回頭翻到國中時期的聯絡簿，發現不管寫下什麼內容，譬如有趣開心難過的事，老師回覆永遠跟成績有關。大學修了幾門課，教授很有見地地幫學生排毒，加上自己的摸索與反思，才重新找回學習的熱忱與動力（不一定是課業上的）
THANK YOU! Critical thinking is one of the most important things we've never learned from school under Taiwan's education system, not even in college! Never heard that until I came to the states pursuing my master's degree. Yes, we need to teach our kids critical thinking, and it is not only good for their life, but also is going to change the future of Taiwan (politically).
非常認同台灣教育要改變的前提是，父母觀念需要改變先
I totally agree. I grew up in Taiwan my whole life and I’m raising my family in the US. The cultural shock is actually how much we, as parents, know about ourself and then how you’d like to guide your kids to known about themselves.
本來以為台灣的教育會跟三十年前有些不一樣,但當自己小孩受教育時,發現雖然形式上沒這麼填鴨,但底層的思維幾乎沒什麼改變, 還是充滿成績/學歷至上的思維(尤其家長們),堅持跟主流不一樣的教育理念有時候真的需要一點勇氣,也很擔心自己的堅持是不對的.
沒哦！
只要你能接受你家小孩 數學 永遠 5分, 國語永遠 3分。
3 + 4 = 多少 ， 5 × 8 = 多少，永遠算錯，你能接受，然後寫一份切結書給學校跟老師，你能接受，然後一切就都沒問題。
@@demodemo5991哈哈！現在好像是這樣了，老師都不敢要求學生的成績了，因為現在的家長動不動就要申訴😂，所以只要家長沒意見，老師也不會多管了
Very good point on Taiwan's education system and culture.
我非常認同兩位所討論的觀點，這才是對孩子最適合的教育方式
今天話題真的很棒! 我想很多父母及年輕夫妻也會喜歡聽這樣的談話，探討外國與台灣文化差異和教育方式，Tyna在台灣受教育是個過來人的分享，而Cole是為人父親則對小孩受教育持開放沒框架，我覺得2位未來可以一起合輯來製作類似的影本及有區隔跟其他TH-cam者，他們都是製作台灣美食和旅遊，因為大家都看膩了!
非常認同！
我也是從小被打到大
但我反抗老師 就成了壞孩子😂
我也不上補習班
甚至故意考0分
因為分數不代表一切！
我就是想開心的享受在學校玩樂！
可以看東大特訓班的漫畫。
把學校搞成遊樂園，每天上課就是去玩遊樂設施，然後這就是你要的嗎？
身為五歲女兒的爸爸，很慶幸能看到這支影片。
謝謝你們，收益良多。
I love this video, very educational. I think it's very hard to change the mindset of Taiwanese parents because their mindset is about how to teach kids to become successful in their lives. The definition of success means good jobs, decent pay, and an amazing job title that peole feel envied of. BEing different is good, but Taiwan is a place where team work is valued more than individualism, which is applied to many Asian countries.
Well said
Be Brave ❤ Indeed.
Fans of both of you!!!
兩位說的真是太好了❤
Thank you 😊
這影片居然能把我看得熱淚盈眶 謝謝~
Well said. I totally agree with you.👍😊🙏🥹
WOW , this is definitely best English learning for me ( im 50y ) , you use local story to show how to speak English naturally and fluently like a real human in our environment , not just a student in classroom . thank you so much . Also a cram/exam kinds of life wont lead us to a better life , even you win master from NTU or best, exhausted and competing company in Hsinchu science parks , cause its a small island to limit us literally. Open you mind and move , travel to more places to experience more life style and humanities.
Critical thinking is very important for human being. Thank you for this advice
謝謝提娜。有妳真好
我比Tyna大兩屆左右，非常感同身受，但很不幸的成績只保持到國中，畢業後父母親幫我選了當年國中基測能上的最好的國立高職電機科，但因數理方面完全沒天份，對電學之類需要算的專業完全不行，因此放蕩三年，而後上了私立科大到外地獨立生活在打工中找到自信，非常錯誤的把重心放在打工上，結果大學沒畢業，像我這樣的例子應該非常多，只是都被埋沒不為人所知，希望未來的孩子們別再像我們這代一樣，身處在轉折點。
Both of you are awesome !太棒了🎉
Thank you 😊
I am surprised to hear her speaking American English so fluently, since she grew up speaking German & Chinese. And I know so many Taiwanese having problem speaking English.
It's usually easier for Europeans to learn English, since English is part of the group of European languages, and Mandarin Chinese isn't. She could also have improved it during her 7 years in Qatar working with different nationalities in her airline career.
@ymhktravel I agree with you as to the question raised by the others about how she can speak English so fluently being born to a family of German father and Polish mother.
I left Taiwan once I finished my college and military service obligation many years ago and came to the US. I felt that I was typecasted by others in Taiwan. It doesn’t look like that has changed. I changed field of study in the US and just followed what I am good at it. Everything turned up great. Now I am a retired software engineer living in San Diego.
However, engineers and scientists from Taiwan originally were very well received by US tech companies. Because we follow the rules, are dedicated to our jobs and don't get involved in company politics. I can't tell you whether it is because of education or culture. I benefited from people setting that example in the US before 1980. I haven't run into young engineers from Taiwan lately, not sure what the situation is for them.
Morris Chang of TSMC saw those specific qualities and that is why he ran the company from Taiwan. Chang knew that TSMC wouldn't be successful to do the same in the US. Dedication to the TSMC jobs is more important than invention. Therefore, I think neither TSMC nor Intel's semi chip manufacturing business in the US will become successful. Nor can TSMC take Taiwan to the next phase of leading edge technology. For that said, Taiwan's education has to change to have a chance.
我灰熊認同那女孩的思想見解!男孩子也粉優秀!
好開心看到這一集，謝謝！
真是一位很可愛的女士😄😄😄
Sounds like you two have some idea and ready for a cultural and educational revolution for Taiwan 😀 good luck with your wishes
你們都很棒❤
很慶幸我帶孩子來美國唸書，放學後就是玩樂時間😊
兩位說的很棒，同意。
😊很棒的談話
謝謝！
啊哈 完全同意雷堤娜
說的，台灣的一些父母看重分數過於孩子的心靈健康😢
我的女兒也是31,
她小時侯我常常跟她說，我是她的朋友，
所以我們一起玩遊戲，
一起學習和做開心的事。
我也是告訴她可以休學，去選擇喜歡的學校科係，因為成長只有一次，要健康開心地成長
。社會新聞常有承受不了而選擇永遠逃避的孩子啊啊啊啊啊
心靈健康很重要
漂亮!!總算有人說出台灣教育最大缺點的真心話,從外國人講出還真貼切💪,我想應是在地文化及當地價值觀因素最大，現在的環境是-＞「從政」或「攀關係」，才有錢途。
並不是的
That's why I fleed to western country and pursued my goal in music education 35 years ago. I am happy living in the US. As I give private lessons, I face many conflicts from my students' parents who are Chinese. They always ask me if their children are gifted in music/piano; if not, they wonder something else. My answer to them is: Developing children's hobbies is more important, that will bring the lifelong intreasts and give them more choices in their future.
Tyna在你那個上國中的年代不打學生的老師會被認為"對學生太好"或"不夠認真"，是會被許多家長議論的。就如你所說的，以你的狀況，如果老師對你有特殊的對待，反而會讓你在同儕之間的處境變得困難。就這件事情的處置而言，我認為你做的很有智慧。
這影片很棒，所有老師父母都應該看一遍😊
好棒的議題，感同身受
Nice discussion video for Taiwanese, thanks.
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