I really enjoy collecting Magic sets. I don’t do it for every set but just sets that are on planes I like or that have themes I like (e.g., Throne of Eldraine, Wilds of Eldraine, Lost Caverns of Ixalan, Phyrexia All Will Be One, etc) or sets that have an IP I like (e.g. Fallout, LOTR). For most of my set collecting, I usually just collect all the base versions of the cards (no foils, extended arts, borderless, showcases, etc). And I also include the new mechanically unique cards from the Commander Precons or whatever other products that come out as part of the set. Though for my LOTR set I went overboard and collected every card in every treatment (except serialized cards). It cost many thousands of dollars and is 2000+ cards.
I'm an old NM set collector and keep them in Top Deck zipper binders by blocks. Awesome conversation piece at gatherings to even those guests who never knew or played the game. The art style is just stunning. It's crazy how these cards are just getting dumped onto the market. Perfect time to buy low!
I am a couple of dual lands away from a complete revised set. I also picked up a sealed 4th box but I think I bought it too early. Much better prices now. Either way, I really enjoy the old artwork from the early to mid 90s.
There will be decades of nostalgia left. People overreacting about how everything going zero tomorrow. Those boxes are such beautiful artifacts from 90s that most people have felt. I understand how people between 15-35 might not be concentrated on these now but doesn't mean no one won't be later. Mirrodin etc were pretty sought after when EDH came but yeah, going down unless people start to appreciate older foils or original print generally.
So cool to see all those old sets and boxes again. I started in ‘96 and I remember seeing a black lotus for $300 in my LGS and thinking it was too expensive lol
Built an all foil triple Innistrad cube to draft and the nostalgia trip is unreal. My first product I ever bought was a Innistrad fat pack. I really miss those days of magic. It was truly a great time.
Also sold most of my magic to move into Sorcery. I can rest easy because we know for a fact MTG will become even more about UB and therefore less of what I want.
Fastbond, ramnap excavator, zuran orb, and scorched desert. What do we have …a budget vintage deck. Now add some Force of Wills/ Pact of Negation to protect the 1st turn kill and we’re in business. You obviously need a few more cards but that’s the engine for a budget Vintage deck.
Damn I’m jealous about that Mirrodin set. That was the new set when I started MTG in high school. My friends had legions decks and I got the first Mirrodin deck for the group and learnt to play with them!
I tried telling other collectors over a year ago this would happen. Throne of Eldraine forward is the new block future collectors will want not their fathers mtg cards.
Set collecting was largely dead to me the moment I could buy a standard booster pack and yet was not able to get every card that was in the set out of it. That said I have a lot of completed older sets, and I do buy a box of sealed draft, set, collectors, and commander decks to jut sit on the shelf.
It sucks because as an old guy I really like building sets. The problem is that is virtually impossible to keep up and by the time you try to pick up the missing variant versions two other sets have already rolled by... I have just chose to reallocate those funds to the reserved list pool and have been spending there. Wizards choice of so many variants and cards has in fact funneled my dollar away from them and to the secondary market.
$800 is crazy for 4th edition from 1995. There may not be a date on the box but it does have $2.45 msrp. They printed the hell out of that set. It was sold everywhere and not just at LCS. I bought a few hundred packs when game stop was blowing them out at 75% off.
Sorcery is speculation, the boxes are to expensive for a game which is new and has no historie at all. 4th Edition was massiv overprinted, sadly 4th will never get real value.
All I did at the start of my Magic time (Revised) was collect full sets. I collected for a long time before I ever played the game. That lasted for about a decade and then I got out of the game and never really got back into it. Still have everything though.
I think a lot of old mtg cards and sets like your $300 mirrodin one sitting loose , unsleeved in a cardboard box are still out there . People aren't throwing cards out. They will still be out there tomorrow. I can't say the same for new games
Homelands is definitely a beautiful set. But please don't kid yourself, Homelands was NEVER playable. Now Homelands and Fallen Empires are the cheapest ways to sniff that pack fresh Belgian lacquer.
Every set after Revised was garbage until Urza came out. In Europe, nobody could lay hands on anything between Alpha and Revised, so we used our Christmas money to buy stuff that was priced by Scrye magazine to appeal dealers. Also it took WotC long years to get out their sets. So, many returned to gaming. The biggest hit was the advent of WoW which also affected Warhammer. That said, in current circumstances cash is king. My friend has a Beta power nine collection and sold a few singles for 7k last year. The problem is that opening a display will depreciate the value disproportionately. A display has value for it being one, not for having content of the same value. Nobody around here wants to play with old guys having super expensive cards anyway- so why bother. GenZ buys a lot of digital assets too so there may nasty surprises when we reach our fifties and sixties. Right now, people are dumping Lego, Star Wars Figurines and comics. Yet there will always be collectors too but will they have the money and storage?
@KitchenTableTCG I started in Invasion/Apocalypse. Don't know what year, but I still remember the old days. It's was great, but it's STILL great. We're just old and jaded now.
@@MrRayRockstar I'll agree to that. If not for commander being the only thing most newer players will touch, it could still be fun to us old fogeys. Started with Onslaught. First deck was the Ivory doom precon. Sill a fun deck to play, even if a little janky.
I can't imagine anyone under 45 caring about these cards in 15 years. Vintage magic is on the decline like Masters of the Universe, on the path to Pez and Model Trains. Why would you buy a 4th edition booster box when you can buy lord of the rings, Marvel, Final Fantasy ect. I do think old men will regret liquidating now, not because prices will go up but because this stuff will become lost in permanent collections.
I really enjoy collecting Magic sets. I don’t do it for every set but just sets that are on planes I like or that have themes I like (e.g., Throne of Eldraine, Wilds of Eldraine, Lost Caverns of Ixalan, Phyrexia All Will Be One, etc) or sets that have an IP I like (e.g. Fallout, LOTR).
For most of my set collecting, I usually just collect all the base versions of the cards (no foils, extended arts, borderless, showcases, etc). And I also include the new mechanically unique cards from the Commander Precons or whatever other products that come out as part of the set.
Though for my LOTR set I went overboard and collected every card in every treatment (except serialized cards). It cost many thousands of dollars and is 2000+ cards.
I'm an old NM set collector and keep them in Top Deck zipper binders by blocks. Awesome conversation piece at gatherings to even those guests who never knew or played the game. The art style is just stunning. It's crazy how these cards are just getting dumped onto the market. Perfect time to buy low!
I am a couple of dual lands away from a complete revised set. I also picked up a sealed 4th box but I think I bought it too early. Much better prices now. Either way, I really enjoy the old artwork from the early to mid 90s.
There will be decades of nostalgia left. People overreacting about how everything going zero tomorrow. Those boxes are such beautiful artifacts from 90s that most people have felt. I understand how people between 15-35 might not be concentrated on these now but doesn't mean no one won't be later. Mirrodin etc were pretty sought after when EDH came but yeah, going down unless people start to appreciate older foils or original print generally.
I agree. But dang do I love it!
So cool to see all those old sets and boxes again. I started in ‘96 and I remember seeing a black lotus for $300 in my LGS and thinking it was too expensive lol
Built an all foil triple Innistrad cube to draft and the nostalgia trip is unreal. My first product I ever bought was a Innistrad fat pack. I really miss those days of magic. It was truly a great time.
I still pick up Reserved list cards here and there, Just got a Pixie Queen from your TCG Player store.
Thanks for supporting! I still have your email on my todo 😅😅
Also sold most of my magic to move into Sorcery. I can rest easy because we know for a fact MTG will become even more about UB and therefore less of what I want.
Fastbond, ramnap excavator, zuran orb, and scorched desert. What do we have …a budget vintage deck. Now add some Force of Wills/ Pact of Negation to protect the 1st turn kill and we’re in business. You obviously need a few more cards but that’s the engine for a budget Vintage deck.
Damn I’m jealous about that Mirrodin set. That was the new set when I started MTG in high school. My friends had legions decks and I got the first Mirrodin deck for the group and learnt to play with them!
Hit me up if you’re interested in it. Kitchentabletcg@gmail.com
I tried telling other collectors over a year ago this would happen. Throne of Eldraine forward is the new block future collectors will want not their fathers mtg cards.
Set collecting was largely dead to me the moment I could buy a standard booster pack and yet was not able to get every card that was in the set out of it. That said I have a lot of completed older sets, and I do buy a box of sealed draft, set, collectors, and commander decks to jut sit on the shelf.
It sucks because as an old guy I really like building sets. The problem is that is virtually impossible to keep up and by the time you try to pick up the missing variant versions two other sets have already rolled by... I have just chose to reallocate those funds to the reserved list pool and have been spending there. Wizards choice of so many variants and cards has in fact funneled my dollar away from them and to the secondary market.
Always great to see the old sets.
$800 is crazy for 4th edition from 1995. There may not be a date on the box but it does have $2.45 msrp. They printed the hell out of that set. It was sold everywhere and not just at LCS. I bought a few hundred packs when game stop was blowing them out at 75% off.
Crazy low or high in your opinion?
kind of crazy that a box of alpha Sorcery is $850, roughly the same price as a 4th edition MTG box.
Sorcery is speculation, the boxes are to expensive for a game which is new and has no historie at all.
4th Edition was massiv overprinted, sadly 4th will never get real value.
All I did at the start of my Magic time (Revised) was collect full sets. I collected for a long time before I ever played the game. That lasted for about a decade and then I got out of the game and never really got back into it. Still have everything though.
That’s cool! What would bring you back in?
My favorite part of the sealed product is that it has MSRP written on the box, can we even imagine a world with MSRP? 🤣
Mtg needs msrp back.
I think a lot of old mtg cards and sets like your $300 mirrodin one sitting loose , unsleeved in a cardboard box are still out there . People aren't throwing cards out. They will still be out there tomorrow. I can't say the same for new games
Where do you get the clear hard cases for those boxes? Might want some for my sorcery product :)
They came with them. I can probably order you some if interested
I think TH-cam and internet had a big impact on a lot of people who weren't into MTG and now are
I have the older sets as a collection. I know there is no value in them but I collected them for myself not for an investment
There has to be more reasoning than it's old and there's less of it. In that case let's all get into prehistoric fossils am I right?
I mean there’s utility in the game and as a collectible.
the oldest cards are my favorite
#MPHomelandsSets LFG!! I'd honestly like to have one for nostalgia's sake.
Yeah it’s pretty cool!
Homelands is definitely a beautiful set. But please don't kid yourself, Homelands was NEVER playable. Now Homelands and Fallen Empires are the cheapest ways to sniff that pack fresh Belgian lacquer.
Every set after Revised was garbage until Urza came out. In Europe, nobody could lay hands on anything between Alpha and Revised, so we used our Christmas money to buy stuff that was priced by Scrye magazine to appeal dealers. Also it took WotC long years to get out their sets. So, many returned to gaming. The biggest hit was the advent of WoW which also affected Warhammer.
That said, in current circumstances cash is king. My friend has a Beta power nine collection and sold a few singles for 7k last year. The problem is that opening a display will depreciate the value disproportionately. A display has value for it being one, not for having content of the same value. Nobody around here wants to play with old guys having super expensive cards anyway- so why bother. GenZ buys a lot of digital assets too so there may nasty surprises when we reach our fifties and sixties. Right now, people are dumping Lego, Star Wars Figurines and comics. Yet there will always be collectors too but will they have the money and storage?
Fire time vaulttttt!
Thank you friend!
no, it’s not! 😁👊🏻
Right on!
right on, indeed, my man! you just got a lotus, i just got a got a chaos orb…we’re living proof 😜😁👊🏻
Why must the set be highly valued to be collectable?
People who hate magic now are the only ones who care about old cards.
Ha. I don’t hate magic!
@@KitchenTableTCG but you miss the "old" days of mtg?
@@MrRayRockstar started playing in 2011
@KitchenTableTCG I started in Invasion/Apocalypse. Don't know what year, but I still remember the old days. It's was great, but it's STILL great. We're just old and jaded now.
@@MrRayRockstar I'll agree to that. If not for commander being the only thing most newer players will touch, it could still be fun to us old fogeys. Started with Onslaught. First deck was the Ivory doom precon. Sill a fun deck to play, even if a little janky.
Set collecting is absolutely dead. no one at WOTC understands that.
It’s sad.
NOPE, just the IPs that WOTC is using for Universes Beyond
I can't imagine anyone under 45 caring about these cards in 15 years. Vintage magic is on the decline like Masters of the Universe, on the path to Pez and Model Trains.
Why would you buy a 4th edition booster box when you can buy lord of the rings, Marvel, Final Fantasy ect. I do think old men will regret liquidating now, not because prices will go up but because this stuff will become lost in permanent collections.
I think there’s a timeline when new fans look at old things. But we will see.