Check out the Store: www.longshotstore.com/ Join the Discord channel: discord.gg/drNE6bT Hey guys. In this DCS World Simulator video I'm in the F22 raptor fighting Sabre4 in the Rafale (thanks for the help buddy) Hope you guys enjoy!
I live about 5 miles NW of MCAS Cherry Point NC and this weekend is the air show with the Blue Angels and the F-22, F-35B demo, etc… I cannot describe to you the sound these jets make when doing low altitude high G turns… the sound of freedom is a beautiful thing! ❤
@@kinka16 The control surfaces allow the raptor to point its nose at any angle at will with little to no energy loss. Basically this thing can turn and aoa simultaneously.
Your cinematography really works here, you get a real feeling for how the aircraft are moving from a stationary position. Puts things into clearer perspective
Dang, this is one of those fights where I wish it was a tie, the Rafale is such a gorgeous jet! Your opponent got really good at those last second jinks, you scraped the paint off of him a few times before you could get some solid hits. He was robbed on round 6, those first shots he took were bang on and it was only luck that you didn't get a round through your noggin 😂
That was much tighter than anticipated, brillant fights ! a shame the Rafale model is not really up to it. Of course everything about those planes is classified, but it seems more work went into the F22. If I remember well, this Rafale mod uses the Su27 flight model, a good dogfighter but probably not very accurate considering the reported extreme agility of the Rafale at low altitude. then you would still expect the F22 to win a majority of dogfight but maybe not by such a margin in that type of scenario
Rafale overperforms in low speeds And it underperforms at high speed in DCS. Though so is the Raptor, it underpeforms in almost every way but that's actually intentional, Grinnell designs wanted to make it more fair so that you have a chance of killing it in DCS. The Rafale mod is just modeled well but off a su-27
The “RAF” mod by Split Air is based on the M-2000 and seems to be much more accurate to how the real Rafale would perform. If you have the Mirage you should check it out. It’s definitely one of the better mods out there.
I make fun of Europeans building things backward (planes and bullpup rifles) but I do like the Rafael and Typhoons. The only canard delta design I don't like is the J-20. In my opinion, the delta wing is too far back. It should be closer to the centerline of the aircraft so the design doesn't have to pull all the forward mass (in front of the center of lift) into the vertical. I don't know if the J-20 is in DCS, but I'd like to see a guns only dogfight between a Rafael and a J-20.
I'll tell you guys, that Rafale pilot is good, but the combination of LS and the Raptor has a name, and that's: "Invincible" great video my friend as usual........!
Would have liked to have seen you swap airframes halfway through so we aren't just watching the person in the Rafael getting smoked over and over again. Want to see you challenged as well
@@Real_Claudy_Focan well seeing as almost all if not all of the times the f22 lost a fight in war games the f22 had bags on and the other plane starts behind the f22...
The Rafale being able to defeat a Raptor in a guns only fight is not a myth. It's a reality. But that is obviously very unlikely to happen, since the Raptor is clearly the more maneuverable overall and has the best flight performance of the two jets, but the fact that it is capable of defeating a Raptor in a guns only fight also doesn't mean nothing about the Rafale. It does not mean that the Rafale is the best amongst the 4th gen jets and that it's the only 4th gen aircraft that can kill an F-22 in a guns only fight... Nope. T-38s once in a while "shoot down" F-22s druing pilot training flights...
@@Real_Claudy_Focan I know there not accurate like the F-22 underperforming and the Rafael over performing but GS did a vid and the F-22 won every time including when the Rafael started on the F-22s six
I would be surprised, if Raptor will dominate in all aspects in real life. I would be cautious about these unofficial modules . They sometimes behave like UFO...
Considering that the F22 has only lost a single training encounter so far, and only because it started off defensive, I can believe that it actually is that insane. Hell for ~180.000.000$ it better be.
@@nb31b // This doesn’t have thrust vectoring modeled in// Yes, it does have TV modeled. //it’s true capabilities aren’t shown at air shows// They are. People just have a dissonance, and they spin bullshit fairytales about its "true capabilities" the same way Russia or China does about their top planes. The reality of the situation is that F-22 doesn't break the law of physics, and thus there are things which he can, and can't do, but DCS model just doesn't care about physics which is nonsense. In a real dogfight, F-22 wasn't capable of out turning Rafael despite its alleged superior thrust, and other magical claims. And yes, the F-22 is still a superior dog fighter than Rafale, but it ain't a magical plane like people make it to be. //highly classified// You can make data highly classified, but you can't do it with physics, and the max. what plane can do can be extrapolated based on known plane geometry, thrust ratio, etc.
The only thing I hate about this game is how nerfed the Rafale mod actually is. French pilot who flew mock fights against F-22 is confident on WVR the Raptor. Yes the Raptor is more maneuverable but Rafale's agility is in a league of its own
Interesting camera shots, dynamic fight - exciting to watch! PS Do we finally resolved this speculations about that real "sparring fight" between F-22 and Rafale? :>
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Hey guys. In this DCS World Simulator video I'm in the F22 raptor fighting Sabre4 in the Rafale (thanks for the help buddy) Hope you guys enjoy!
Your opponent dodges like Neo. Great flying.
Yes, he was great, thank you
0:45 the nose counter by the rafael was extremely pleasant to watch lmao.
I live about 5 miles NW of MCAS Cherry Point NC and this weekend is the air show with the Blue Angels and the F-22, F-35B demo, etc… I cannot describe to you the sound these jets make when doing low altitude high G turns… the sound of freedom is a beautiful thing! ❤
each fight where so close omg so intense !
the rafale is a beast, turn like that without vectorial thrust is insane
Glad you liked it, cheers
Just like WW1 biplanes. The battle of floating leaves. Insane AoA of both fighters. I wonder what actual seat feel would be like. "That's it"
And the Raptor can do better without thrust vectoring.
@@NationChosenByGod tf ?
@@kinka16 The control surfaces allow the raptor to point its nose at any angle at will with little to no energy loss. Basically this thing can turn and aoa simultaneously.
Your cinematography really works here, you get a real feeling for how the aircraft are moving from a stationary position. Puts things into clearer perspective
Damn, the Raptor is a freakin' cheat code. Between this video and GS' these are some of the closest range fights I think I've ever seen. Nice job!
LS, we all know the Raptor is awesome, but you made the Rafale look to be a much easier target than it actually is.
VERY fine flying, sir! 👋👋👋👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏
You should switch aircraft every other fight just to make it fair😅
Dang, this is one of those fights where I wish it was a tie, the Rafale is such a gorgeous jet! Your opponent got really good at those last second jinks, you scraped the paint off of him a few times before you could get some solid hits. He was robbed on round 6, those first shots he took were bang on and it was only luck that you didn't get a round through your noggin 😂
Meanwhile the residents in the quaint city below are getting 20 mike mike rained on them and are hiding in their basements.
That was much tighter than anticipated, brillant fights ! a shame the Rafale model is not really up to it. Of course everything about those planes is classified, but it seems more work went into the F22. If I remember well, this Rafale mod uses the Su27 flight model, a good dogfighter but probably not very accurate considering the reported extreme agility of the Rafale at low altitude. then you would still expect the F22 to win a majority of dogfight but maybe not by such a margin in that type of scenario
Rafale overperforms in low speeds
And it underperforms at high speed in DCS. Though so is the Raptor, it underpeforms in almost every way but that's actually intentional, Grinnell designs wanted to make it more fair so that you have a chance of killing it in DCS. The Rafale mod is just modeled well but off a su-27
The “RAF” mod by Split Air is based on the M-2000 and seems to be much more accurate to how the real Rafale would perform. If you have the Mirage you should check it out. It’s definitely one of the better mods out there.
I make fun of Europeans building things backward (planes and bullpup rifles) but I do like the Rafael and Typhoons. The only canard delta design I don't like is the J-20. In my opinion, the delta wing is too far back. It should be closer to the centerline of the aircraft so the design doesn't have to pull all the forward mass (in front of the center of lift) into the vertical. I don't know if the J-20 is in DCS, but I'd like to see a guns only dogfight between a Rafael and a J-20.
Please can we see the Eurofighter vs the Viper? I love your content man ❤
I'll see what I can do, thank you
Hey could we some other aspects of the delta wings like air to ground, sead, and multirole?
@ 1:03 it looks like the Rafale pilot could have downed the F-22 for a split second there.
Amazing as always. I want to see you and GS dogfight. Each of you in your favorite jets. Best of 7.
Maverick wants to see the Polaroid from the first round
why was the rafale always on afterburner? i mean i understand why he was always overshooting
Not much fun for the Rafale
Why don’t you swap jets half way thru?
Thats some RAPTOR flying now
I'll tell you guys, that Rafale pilot is good, but the combination of LS and the Raptor has a name, and that's: "Invincible" great video my friend as usual........!
Great shot of the F-22 gun door opening. Does it give a raptor a slight disadvantage in terms of reaction time from trigger pull?
I've wondered about that too...
Great flying. It must be frustrating going against the raptor.
the frustration doesnot come from the aircraft but the pilots.
i doesnt know really if the pilots are qualified for test both "mods" x)
An incredible demonstration at the f-22 raptors incredible capabilities..
Great video......
Could the Raptor Dogfight 2 planes same or different planes?
great video incredible fight
We feel the power of the f-22 but next time try to fly with the Rafale it could be cool
Keep it up I love your videos
Total DOMINATION!
Can we see you in the su47 vs f22?
Would you have him do SU 57 against you in raptor? Or you in the SU and him in the Raptor?
Why did you not use fox-2s???
He said at the beginning they were doing a guns only fight
Hi, please make a video F15 Stol vs F16 XL 😉
Sugestion: 2 vs 2 dogfight, guns only! (humans players). It will be a hole another dinamic of a fight!!
Not a bad idea. It's just hard to set up sometimes, I'll give it a shot
@@LongShotChannel Thanks! You with GS alongside with other 2 friends! It would be awesome!
Awesome idea, You could even play with how you present the video like a Split screen or quad screen perhaps?
Dassault's been real quiet since this dropped...
so this guy gets to be your punching bag for 7 rounds lol 🤣
The death dance
Anyone knows what the best Rafale mod is?
You should take on Growling Sidewinder you both fly the Raptor
Great aim.
U should fight the SU-35 next.
Also is this Kola?
No, Syria
Legit flying here
J-20 video when?
Hello long shot Gerat fight. If you can do this fight with SU47 instead F22 see how that will perform. Love your video's ❤❤
Great vidy!
Shocked at how there's no mid air's!
Open cockpit pistol fights...
Would have liked to have seen you swap airframes halfway through so we aren't just watching the person in the Rafael getting smoked over and over again. Want to see you challenged as well
Rafale can't be stalled because of the canards, so these computer model games are not real.
It can't? Never?
man you bullied him so much in this Vid . and this is a rafal
Poor rafale 😂
Welp there goes the myth of the the Rafael being able to defeat the Raptor
Dont tell me you think these models are 100% accurate.. xD
@@Real_Claudy_Focan well seeing as almost all if not all of the times the f22 lost a fight in war games the f22 had bags on and the other plane starts behind the f22...
its not a myth its a reality
The Rafale being able to defeat a Raptor in a guns only fight is not a myth. It's a reality.
But that is obviously very unlikely to happen, since the Raptor is clearly the more maneuverable overall and has the best flight performance of the two jets, but the fact that it is capable of defeating a Raptor in a guns only fight also doesn't mean nothing about the Rafale. It does not mean that the Rafale is the best amongst the 4th gen jets and that it's the only 4th gen aircraft that can kill an F-22 in a guns only fight... Nope.
T-38s once in a while "shoot down" F-22s druing pilot training flights...
@@Real_Claudy_Focan I know there not accurate like the F-22 underperforming and the Rafael over performing but GS did a vid and the F-22 won every time including when the Rafael started on the F-22s six
Gripen vs F35
Next. Please.
Dawg you might be technically superior to GS in that thing.
Split throttle
I would be surprised, if Raptor will dominate in all aspects in real life. I would be cautious about these unofficial modules . They sometimes behave like UFO...
Considering that the F22 has only lost a single training encounter so far, and only because it started off defensive, I can believe that it actually is that insane.
Hell for ~180.000.000$ it better be.
Great vid.
Good fight good fight
This dogfight is excellent 👌 👏 👍
Good one,....
I wonder how much of F-22 flight model is pure fantasy xD
All of it. This doesn’t have thrust vectoring modeled in and it’s true capabilities aren’t shown at air shows, and are highly classified
@@nb31b
// This doesn’t have thrust vectoring modeled in//
Yes, it does have TV modeled.
//it’s true capabilities aren’t shown at air shows//
They are.
People just have a dissonance, and they spin bullshit fairytales about its "true capabilities" the same way Russia or China does about their top planes.
The reality of the situation is that F-22 doesn't break the law of physics, and thus there are things which he can, and can't do, but DCS model just doesn't care about physics which is nonsense.
In a real dogfight, F-22 wasn't capable of out turning Rafael despite its alleged superior thrust, and other magical claims.
And yes, the F-22 is still a superior dog fighter than Rafale, but it ain't a magical plane like people make it to be.
//highly classified//
You can make data highly classified, but you can't do it with physics, and the max. what plane can do can be extrapolated based on known plane geometry, thrust ratio, etc.
Requesting Su-57 vs J-20.
Skill issue
7 rounds 7-0
NGL, was cheering for the Rafale 🤭
There are two A in Rafale. Simply pronounce the second A like the first one. This is a French word, no English rules needed.
The only thing I hate about this game is how nerfed the Rafale mod actually is.
French pilot who flew mock fights against F-22 is confident on WVR the Raptor.
Yes the Raptor is more maneuverable but Rafale's agility is in a league of its own
no i think its decent actualy
First!
Yesss
Whos here after watching tym3glitch 💀
Interesting camera shots, dynamic fight - exciting to watch!
PS
Do we finally resolved this speculations about that real "sparring fight" between F-22 and Rafale? :>