Blackbeard's DOWNFALL is CARIBOU? ALL Exposed By DRAKE!? 🦌

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  • @Parvision-
    @Parvision-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Just wanted to address the audio issues: Thank you for all of the feedback on the clicking sfw, it is noted and i have read through + welcome the valid criticism!
    As always, my videos and the editting will constantly be updated as i see fit and as the channel evolves to fit the vision. I apologize that it effected your viewing experience and it will be addressed 100%. Thank you for your patience and expect there to always be improvements here as the style i originally started this channel with would eventually evolve and right now we are going through the process of doing that, especially as i prep for those really big videos that i have building a huge amount of anticipation for.
    That being said as long as you are respectful, i welcome all the criticism and complaints and thank everyone who appreciated the hard work + fun ideas presented here.

    • @harrylhc4275
      @harrylhc4275 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Love the theory - do agree that the clicking sound was kind of annoying. Another thing I would say is that you tend to talk really fast and it can be sometimes difficult to process all the juice you're throwing at us because it's just so rapid fire. That aside, I really enjoy these vids

    • @matattz
      @matattz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You’re the best!

  • @justinn8541akaDrPokemon
    @justinn8541akaDrPokemon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +243

    If you told me 5 years ago Caribou did more for the plot than Dragon, I would call you crazy.

    • @roronoakurosaki5923
      @roronoakurosaki5923 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Dragon brought us the New JoyBoy..
      *Dragons exists stage left* 😂

    • @samuraitadpole5459
      @samuraitadpole5459 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not before looking east ​@@roronoakurosaki5923

    • @FrostyMts
      @FrostyMts 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Inb4 people start dick riding Dragon when it’s revealed he’s had spies all over throughout the entire series.

    • @RedGarderner
      @RedGarderner 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hmmm... really? Let's take a look at a fee things he's done.
      - Luffy survived Impel Down because of Ivankov. Ivankov was only there because of Dragon. This alone means that Dragon is a large reason that Luffy has made it past Pre-TS. Not to mention him saving Luffy at Loguetown.
      - Let's look at Egghead. Bonney is here because of Kuma, and their journey is owed to Dragon's Revolutionary Army.
      - Let's look at the terrorism at Marijoa, led by Sabo, who is here because of Dragon.
      Dragon is a God of affecting the plot indirectly. And those of these, two points directly affected the plot.
      I know you're making a joke bro, so I don't meant to be a party pooper. I will acknowledge though you were pretty off the note this time.

    • @lunarluxe9832
      @lunarluxe9832 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@roronoakurosaki5923 east*

  • @Cardulionax
    @Cardulionax 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +110

    Caribou got to be the most unexpectedly relevant character of the whole New World.

    • @orangesilver4568
      @orangesilver4568 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Him and Wapol become very relevant characters which is interesting because no one thought anything of them after they were beaten.

    • @HollowNoFace
      @HollowNoFace 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂

  • @SilverSlugs16
    @SilverSlugs16 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

    Pray for Par. Oda pulling up on him with 10 black SUVs for figuring this out

    • @Parvision-
      @Parvision-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Lmfaoooo

  • @kusoland
    @kusoland 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    A wee correction on what Caribou said about his "Life long dream" in the Japanese version. He says it's his "Goshou no tanomi" which means something along the line of a "once in a lifetime wish/request/plea". So it's not that he's been dreaming of being a part of BB's crew for a whole life time just that he's desperately pleading for this one request. Great video as always though Par. It's always exciting to hear your thoughts on everything OP and hope you're doing well!❤

  • @crisrojos
    @crisrojos 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    I always thought the X on both Drake and Caribou confirms there allegiance to one another

  • @OriginBullet
    @OriginBullet 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    NGL. I always thought Luffy, basically, calling Caribou a wild animal as weird. Never really could figure out the implications of that. Has the same vibe as when Luffy called Blackbeard "them". Implications not clear at first, but we know Luffy's intuition is really good when it comes to feeling out people's vibes.

    • @DANCERcow
      @DANCERcow 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's actually nikas intuition not Luffy's!

    • @RedGarderner
      @RedGarderner 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@DANCERcowSo we're going to ignore Zoro then? It was Luffy not the fruit.

    • @blackhoroos
      @blackhoroos 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@DANCERcowZoro also acknowledged the fact that black beard was a them

    • @HaSatanhagia
      @HaSatanhagia 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Them,was for his crew... Luffy meant,it s not only BB,he has also a crew

    • @latingm
      @latingm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@DANCERcownika doesn’t talk to luffy. y’all act like nika takes over luffy’s mind.

  • @TheSlithice
    @TheSlithice 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    The clicking sound is so LOUD.

  • @BIGDEW14
    @BIGDEW14 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    The clicking sounds between slides is not the greatest

    • @Parvision-
      @Parvision-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Thank you for the feedback

    • @Emperiiium
      @Emperiiium 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@Parvision- Maybe once in a while but not every page flip, i feel its too much.

    • @SilberBrisingr
      @SilberBrisingr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      ​@@Emperiiium I second that

    • @evanalex0
      @evanalex0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      The clicking noises were awful and incredibly distracting

    • @quadrydavis535
      @quadrydavis535 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree as well good sirs

  • @LuffyToons
    @LuffyToons 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Man i miss the old editing style... I subbed this channel when it had 200 subs because i liked how your old editing never added unnecessary, "over the top" edits like all the other OP channels back then, but now this channel is kinda doing the same thing. It sucks because imo you are the best OP theorist, but, i've barely watched any of your videos ever since this edit style. Even though i know the video probably has the best theory ever, i just cant stand this editing. It's obviously aimed for people with low attention spans and is working for views which is good for you, but i just cant sit through your videos like i used to anymore

  • @tylerc5311
    @tylerc5311 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    bro PLEASE stop using the mouse click sound every 2 seconds its so annoying

    • @mal2541
      @mal2541 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Stop crying

    • @VarietyArc
      @VarietyArc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hes right tho​@@mal2541

    • @macswag5731
      @macswag5731 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mal2541ong

  • @7.J7
    @7.J7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    That's went way south at the end but somehow I liked it 😂😂😂😂
    W video

    • @Parvision-
      @Parvision-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ain't no better direction for a character like caribou hahah

  • @MangoMann072
    @MangoMann072 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Another great theory video from Par

  • @mindsight9732
    @mindsight9732 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Another point.
    Barrel pirates+Drake+Corazon+Sword. caribou barreled by franky, Luffy in barrels, barrel deep lore at start of thriller bark.

    • @mindsight9732
      @mindsight9732 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Notice how Garp takes special interest inescorting Shirohoshi to the world summit. After caribou learns of posideon.

  • @Cardulionax
    @Cardulionax 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Par I love ya man; been watching since you had like 2 vids and a handful of shorts but please please please i beseech you don't start doing that thing where theres a click or a fidgety noise every single time an image transitions or a panel changes on screen. I've noticed that happening more and more among many One Piece youtubers as of late and it's absolutely insufferable. It's a video tactic that appeals to brainrotted people with 0 attention spans and 5 year olds. It adds nothing of value to your theories, which are among the best around, and only substracts from the substance of the overall production. I couldn't make it past 1 minute 46 seconds into this theory due to that.

    • @Parvision-
      @Parvision-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I do have to play into it a little but I will def improve it for the next one as I always try to do. Thank you for the feedback

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    it makes sense as Caribou's crew does look identical with the top hats and everything

  • @sigelsegal2297
    @sigelsegal2297 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Interesting.... I feel like he will play a major key in what's to come.

  • @NkJunior100
    @NkJunior100 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sure would be trippy if Caribou was in Sword since their job is a thankless one. Karibu in swhaili means youre welcome and is pronounced like Caribu.
    No wonder he always is able to somehow help😂

  • @Casualfan101
    @Casualfan101 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Only hole in this theory is that if caribou was a golem why wouldn’t price grus just tell the gov about the ancient weapons. Him knowing so much means he can’t be a part of the gov or else we would’ve seen the affects by now, I still think he could have deeper motivations but he’s definitely a pirate.

    • @TheUnkow
      @TheUnkow 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sword keeps some secrets from CP0 and even the WG.
      They work for the WG, but may not always be 100% open about everything.

    • @TheUnkow
      @TheUnkow 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      One additional explanation is that they sent Garp to safeguard Shirahoshi towards Fishman Island, could've send him to guard any other royal, but they chose the ancient weapon.
      This theory actually fits pretty well.

    • @Casualfan101
      @Casualfan101 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@TheUnkow when it comes to Poseidon imu probably already knows it shirihoshi because they’re from the void century they know what the weapons are. Also could be the reason she had the target on vivi, and probably a big reason for the mother flame existing now. The theory has too many holes yes sword works outside of the government but they’re still with the government they’re not just marines functioning as pirates they’re on actual mission but they’re basically classified type missions where the gov shouldn’t be operating they can because of sword. Sword isn’t just rogue marine guys who find out about shit like the ancient weapons and don’t report back. Every person we’ve seen in sword was on a mission or still had close ties to the gov thru communication or whatever they’re not just doing whatever they want.

  • @blank0po367
    @blank0po367 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The clicking sounds can be implimented well however it shoukd be used sparingly and in a way to draw viewers back in other than thag great video

  • @Growthstonks
    @Growthstonks 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Only Par would make me care about Caribou!! OH noooo your going to make him spread like Bogard

    • @Parvision-
      @Parvision-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Lmfaooooooooo muahahahahhahahahahah when oda hears about this, you know he gonna double down like he did with bogard

  • @ZoroDChamp
    @ZoroDChamp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    That’s where he pulled out the military grade weapon, on fishman island, from swallowing the weapons factory, okay it makes sense
    Craibu has been a mystery this whole time and infiltrating BB’s crew would give sword a needed advantage at least to ‘even’ the field.
    Any chance he could be revolutionary army…?

    • @Parvision-
      @Parvision-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @ZoroDChamp I've thought about revs but I feel like unlike sword, they're not really allowing any means necessary crimes. In the raid of mariejois they tried really hard not to cause casualty forexample. But yeah because of the weird details with the navy specifically I'm leaning towards sword more than anything

  • @amedeogiacomini
    @amedeogiacomini 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @Parvision should audition for the Caribous part in the Netflix series.

  • @joegarbage5908
    @joegarbage5908 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    honestly mindblowing. only thing is the volume change at the end which almost took me out lol

  • @j3nki541
    @j3nki541 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I like this. Only thought I don't like is him not having a devil fruit, since that would null his whole spiel of 'shes a hungry girl', which I find really interesting. Tho what if one of the clay golems ate a devil fruit of their own? It might explain how Caribou is such a strong hunch on his df's will, since he didn't really have one for himself before, but then he'd be torn between his lords will and his df's will, essentially becoming the wild card he is right now.
    Regardless, the Caribou sword membership I'm buying into :)

  • @hankskorpio5857
    @hankskorpio5857 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Bro... wtf the clapping was like nails on a chalkboard.

    • @Parvision-
      @Parvision-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Thank you for the feedback it's definitely noted and will update/change for the futhew

    • @hankskorpio5857
      @hankskorpio5857 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Parvision- All in good fun lol. For real though thank you cause that was driving me nutz 😅

    • @Phantasmen
      @Phantasmen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@hankskorpio5857same, I was only a little annoyed, but wanted to finish listening to this while trying to fall asleep and 4 of those toks were enough to bring me into the comments to complain.

  • @ryananderson1887
    @ryananderson1887 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is one of those far out there whack theories that is so insane it makes too much sense... and now I can't unsee it.

    • @Parvision-
      @Parvision-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @ryananderson1887 no matter far out there, I'll be able to help you see it. Vision buff +10. Muahahhahaa

    • @ryananderson1887
      @ryananderson1887 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Parvision- add a few 0’s there. Going from Parvision to Parhubbletelescope

  • @three-day-trip9617
    @three-day-trip9617 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    When Par really cooks we just need spoiler tags.🚨🧑‍🍳🚨

    • @sostreight
      @sostreight 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      stop glazing💀💀💀

  • @mindsight9732
    @mindsight9732 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Speaking of carribou, his brother and the son of White beard are a little too similar.
    Esp given how quickly he seems to abandon his dear, brother.
    Is it possible, that he is connect to MADDS in some way. He seems outside the black market, but part of another underground organization.

  • @voidcenturyD
    @voidcenturyD 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My new favorite Caribou theory! Great video

  • @bluerosestudios8703
    @bluerosestudios8703 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Being european, the notification for the video was the first thing I saw waking up, instant hype, I needed some of that vision !

  • @absolvt_
    @absolvt_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Never thought about the link between XDrake & Caribou! Maybe was a way for Oda to pave the build up in Wano. However both characters really surprised us with their unexpected plot relevance…

  • @justicemorales685
    @justicemorales685 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    New par vid , now waiting for the parcast with syv on the new chapter 🙏🏾🔥🔥

  • @ramon-qx8nt
    @ramon-qx8nt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Just got out the shower to a new par video, it’s the simple things in life really.
    Edit : ok par whatever you’re smoking I need it because Caribou being a clay clone from Grus is INSANE.

    • @Parvision-
      @Parvision-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Lmfaoooooooooooooo hahahhahahahah it's good stuff I promise haha glorp

    • @hankskorpio5857
      @hankskorpio5857 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Parvision- Is his father clay too? He holds a picture of his father in a panel doesnt he? The dad looks like a mix of Karibou and Dragon. Monkey Hair Dragibou?

  • @leobx5479able
    @leobx5479able 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    feel like caribou is a RA or something and he's the 1 that give luffy food on egghead

  • @mighty7579
    @mighty7579 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Every awakening is overpowered Caribou could be Prince Gruses best gollum and gained a power similar to Enmas Haki drain , Caribou has infinite space inside of him or could have been fed the swamp fruit since he already had intelligence.

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Maybe Grus is the son of the deposed king of Goa King & I also like the theory by Dawn & Dusk that Grus is the brother of Bellete the guy that tried to kill all the newkamas

    • @Parvision-
      @Parvision-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @mathieuleader8601 ooo that's interesting. I was thinking something else entirely for prince grus. Damn they remembered that person from impel down? Lol I've played with a crazier idea with Prince grus mainly because I think oda is gonna make his role important

    • @mathieuleader8601
      @mathieuleader8601 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Parvision- we'll have to wait and see

  • @Naga4635
    @Naga4635 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love your videos ❤ but please par, the clicking sound effect and the bubble is waaay too prominent. The count is in hundreds through out the whole vid, it's almost disturbing. ☹️ I would enjoy it way more if there was fewer or if they would be turned down a bit

  • @a.N.....
    @a.N..... 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    22:17 is a wild thing i didnt even think about

  • @trevorstroud9334
    @trevorstroud9334 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Whoa, lots to say here, great job at unpacking this Par. Seems like Swords reaching all over I thought originally it was Teach he was wanting to give the info to but then I thought it seemed to easy. This is way better, the thing I really like about all of this is a little different. But when we saw the 12 who are going to be going after the Onepiece or are the ones Odas highlighted about being endgame players we got Coby.
    Now I was like ok, Coby, makes sense of some different levels, but I think Oda's really saying Sword. So there's the Navy, Shanks, B.B., Luffy, Crossguild, Holy Knights etc...but having Sword here being a relevant contender for the Onepiece and lets not forget Kuzan and his ties, seems like (Tin foil time) I think Luffy will prob give the Onepiece to Sword after he finishes with it because he wants more adventure and Sword are good guys who will use it correctly and not to attack innocents.
    So the entire set up for Sword has been working for a long time through Caribou and if this is what Oda's doing then, keep on cooking Oda. Trying to figure out your moves is so much fun.

  • @KosunaKoizumi
    @KosunaKoizumi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I believe that originally the main villain was supposed to be "Saint Germain", but he was replaced by Imu and became Judge Vinsmoke. In the original plot Sanji aka Mr. Prince would be the son of the main villain.
    Strangely enough the Golem ability of Prince Grus is the closest to the Gorosei. Both are autonomous self regenerating units.
    I bet that Grus inherited some plot points of the original son of "Saint Germain" and now he is related to the Nerona family.

  • @nathanlevesque7812
    @nathanlevesque7812 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Since clay makes ceramic materials, I really want to see a functional terracotta army at some point.

  • @alexanderkitiashvili6719
    @alexanderkitiashvili6719 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    well the X on Caribous shirt is 10 in Roman indeed

  • @supaalfo
    @supaalfo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    We locked in 🤞🏾

  • @kinrobscove
    @kinrobscove 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey bro? Utterly cracked theory. Well done. If it's not in the story Oda missed out.

  • @lokipolo04
    @lokipolo04 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The spacebar or keyboard sound is really distracting. Instead of listening to what you are saying, the anticipation for the next clicking sound is all thats on my mind. Its ruining my life. I dk what to do anymore. The videos are good. But the haunting of the clicks... tortures me. Lingers in my hesd for hrs. What is the purpose of it? Change of subject i thought? But thats not it... flipping of a page on the manga? Not it either... not sure if i can keep doing this.. ive been watching you for so long. But the clicks is ruining my Parvision.

  • @TheGood_Bro
    @TheGood_Bro 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ive honestly always liked caribou and this just makes it 10X better i cant wait to see what oda has in store with him

  • @bravewryy6781
    @bravewryy6781 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Kinda spittin didn't think of this at all just because of the obvious parallel between caribou and barto

  • @Par-Blindspot
    @Par-Blindspot 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I agree Par, Caribou is Luffy's Mother. It all add up. Dragon is freaky.

    • @Parvision-
      @Parvision-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lmfaooooo she got that swamp ass fr

  • @Natku-Animaku
    @Natku-Animaku 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    oh not that drake

  • @nathannia
    @nathannia 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This theory was fire it's almost complete the only part I didn't buy was the his thoughts about the ancient weapons before speaking to van augur

  • @MD00792
    @MD00792 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    remember when at first glance we all thought Bartolomeo would be a despicable short term, villain. caribu also was introduced like that. most random gys become interesting characters in one piece .

  • @andrewmoore2012
    @andrewmoore2012 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Caribou is Rocks.

  • @Adhokshaja
    @Adhokshaja 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What crazy timing!!
    Next chapter reaction will become interesting

  • @imnosuperman72
    @imnosuperman72 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love the video and the idea as a whole.
    My thought on it is: What if Prince Gruce used his power to make a "perfect golem" then fed it the swamp swamp fruit? Why it has more full sentience than others, and potentially being part of sword/marines allows access to Vegapunks technology to feed devil fruits to items/things.

  • @ChiChi-cy2vu
    @ChiChi-cy2vu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    See I never gave second thought to Caribou but you’re right the fact that he always seems to fall into the places where the main plot lines are happening is about odd, it would be a lot cooler if he was in Sword and not just a Blackbeard super fan 😂

    • @Parvision-
      @Parvision-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @ChiChi-cy2vu facts. It's ironic cuz in the video from 2 years ago where I said blackbeard was probably it. I said. Sword would be wild. Lmaooooooo I guess I wasn't thinking wild enough

  • @WhataBotch
    @WhataBotch 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Someone forgot that caribou begged the BB pirates to meet Teach and called him his idol. All his intentions are for BB. The crocodile twist would have been interesting though

    • @Parvision-
      @Parvision-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Huh? I literally referenced that exact panel and scene like 10 times lmfao it's because of how he begged them that this video was made. Lmfaoooo he said it's his life long dream to join MASTER blackbeard teach. But it cudnt be a lifelong dream because bb only been blackveard for 2 years and had 0 bounty. And caribou has a LORD above that. If bb just master who is the lord XD.

    • @WhataBotch
      @WhataBotch 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Parvision- If aokiji ends up not being with BB by the end of the series, and luffy does get one last member for the crew. That means BB would need a new member to even the numbers.
      It is weird now that you pointed out the life long dream comment. But I think that can just be chalked up to over exaggeration perhaps ? Idk.. caribou was already a mystery for so long, that I believe we might have actually gotten his true intentions now. ALTHOUGH I’m in love with the idea of him being involved with crocodile because he would be a good fit for cross guild. I think he’s just going to end up being the comedy character for the BB crew.

  • @no-rj5sn
    @no-rj5sn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Caribou could help the characters understand blackbeards black hole. Both characters have a pocket dimmesion inside them, that can carry a lot in their space.

    • @Parvision-
      @Parvision-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @no-rj5sn yeah interestingly caribous is better I think cuz I think blackbeard crushes anything in his.

    • @memes12309
      @memes12309 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Parvision- unless he wants just to store them he destroyed the building's because he chosse to

    • @localdadinyourarea2039
      @localdadinyourarea2039 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's the correlation i think is most important..I 100% believe due to Shanks/Vivi/Coby/Sabo and Dragon being involved..BB is gonna get to the One Piece first! Someone with a bottomless pit who can store people safely and massive sized items who's a spy in BB crew could drastically change the landscape of the final battle! The scene right before Momo gets changed us what perplexes me cause he had ALREADY unloaded all the food before Luffy was dropped off on land by Laws crew! I think he stole Poneglyph rubbing or something else important from Kaido and needed the space! He was hiding out there before Luffy was ever brought to the port

  • @dragonballmaster5324
    @dragonballmaster5324 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When you look at his character it looks like the size of balloon that is suspicious that has show and mean that caribou stored food inside his logia body and this probably happen of screen after defeating one of kaido s associates and then shrink his body to a point we’re it wasn’t noticeable that he was carry food in it 14:13

  • @KingQuetzal
    @KingQuetzal 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The flag on the panels at 20:55 has a scar on it's face. Sword?

  • @xdragoonzero0
    @xdragoonzero0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The only issue I see with Caribou and his crew being golems is that we see the entire crew get submerged underwater and I doubt that would work well with the product of a devil fruit power.
    Even if they don't get immediately dissolved or something, I feel like clay and water would probably not mix well. The only way I see the scenario making sense is that the Golems are affected by the sea as if they were devil fruit users despite not actually being one.

    • @Parvision-
      @Parvision-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @xdragoonzero0 ooooooo you hit a very good point. I didn't put into the video because explaining this in its entirety wud be like 2-3 minutes added that'd detour and boor some.
      But chapter 605 is what you're referencing.
      And that scene is exactly why I think they're clay. When you reference how oda shows nearly everyone underwater they sink. Which makes sense. Laws crew, kids crew were recent examples. BUT caribous crew is an exception. They didn't sink. Zoro says they look like jellyfish (in other words floating). Now surviving at 3k M depth with bubbles is one piece logic, BUT like you said clay doesn't dissolve. Interesting clay immediately floats due to the air pockets within its structure. It takes a decent while for it to get water logged. And so the crew being highlighted to not just float and have buoyancy is really interesting. But not only that caribou isn't even concerned. Remember these are depths that without the bubbles. The strawhat monster trio would have died at and caribou knew that and made them bubble scuba gear. And yet not only did these guys float, they also survived and returned.
      And as far it deactivating the devil fruit. We'll we can look at examples like perospero who made a candy slug that can sail on water and big mom has homies that she can put into a wave or her ship. So they function in the water. It seems like creations of a devil fruit aren't that weak to water, which makes like morias fruit an interesting exception since it just took salt. All that bring said. Since clay is naturally resistant to water, I'm actually expecting the fruit to be a crazy power. And I think its fair cuz like karasu a random side commander in the revs has rhe soot logia that can make birds that can be used as den den mushis. Like oda is adding some wonky add-ons to these powers and clay is probably one of the deepest when it comes to mythos. No exaggeration every belief system thought humans we're made of clay and gods breath or some shit lmfaooo which is why lord prince grus makes sense but yeah. I love that you pointed this out. Was saving this detail for this kind ofncomment hahah appreciate you

  • @mattpruitt442
    @mattpruitt442 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Isn't caribou a logia? Why would a buster call hurt them, the island should be there still and they're intangible unless you have haki.

  • @xdragoonzero0
    @xdragoonzero0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If Caribou were a golem, it's possible that he actually does have the Numa Numa no Mi, explaining his unique abilities. Whether this occured through him just eating it or the whole "object being fed a devil fruit" process doesn't actually matter.
    If Caribou is a part of SWORD, he could be trying to reach Blackbeard to actually get Kuzan the information. Kuzan could easily be an unofficial member of SWORD (so even the non-SWORD Marines don't know).

  • @jdelgadoptjd
    @jdelgadoptjd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He reports to sword and wants to meet with Kuzan so he can support the rescue of garp

  • @chintastic_7503
    @chintastic_7503 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro the clicking sound after each transition of panels is driving me crazy enough par 😭

  • @Tonylamar777
    @Tonylamar777 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Now that’s a Spicy theory

  • @shmookie1358
    @shmookie1358 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You're videos are great. But the clicking sound on the slides needs to be turned down

  • @OriginBullet
    @OriginBullet 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    You know what this means right?
    THE SWAMP SWAMP FRUIT.......DOESN'T EXIST!!!!

  • @greenpooljama
    @greenpooljama 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    drake needs to stick to music bruh

  • @xMrMayhemx
    @xMrMayhemx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    bruh... this would be so fucking wild!
    i don't think so... but it would be cool as hell.

    • @Parvision-
      @Parvision-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @xMrMayhemx right??? Lmao I just believe that oda has highlighted this dude randomly for so long. It's gotta be crazy on this tier. Maybe not but lmao I wouldn't be surprised to get a major reveal about him soon ngl

  • @rollinvdub6935
    @rollinvdub6935 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You got the best theories bro, 🎤 👏 🐐

    • @Parvision-
      @Parvision-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you think so

  • @dr.shuppet5452
    @dr.shuppet5452 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The problem with the theory of Caribou being a golem is his storage ability, which is like the Yami Yami no Mi.

    • @Parvision-
      @Parvision-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree. But I think there's a higher likelihood it makes sense through some ability of the clay fruit than just random swamp logia ability. Esp cuz oda has given alot of the paramecias insane awakenings and heightened abilities. Doflamingo bird cage was put into his string clone. So basically an ultimate ability IN a string golem. And law and kids awakenings are each interesting extensions of their powers too. Don't think it'd out of the question now thay were in last saga

    • @dr.shuppet5452
      @dr.shuppet5452 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Parvision- The idea behind both the Numa Numa no Mi's and Yami Yami no Mi's storage ability is that things get swallowed and disappear in the swap/dark. This does not extend that well to clay. On the other hand, it was Caribou himself who explained his ability (in
      Chapter 612) so it might have been a cover of his actual origin: the real Numa Numa no Mi might or might not exist then, like the Gomu Gomu no Mi.

  • @mylesjude233
    @mylesjude233 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just one issue. Why would Prince Grus have Caribou waste time kidnap mermaids though for slavery.

    • @Mooneymanjason
      @Mooneymanjason 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      i think the idea hinges on grus' golems having autonamous personalities. meaning caribou was tasked to be the slimiest kind of pirate to get in blackbeards good graces and acts as such

    • @mylesjude233
      @mylesjude233 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Mooneymanjason Oh I see. That would be wild given how important a role Caribou played in Wano when it came to giving Luffy food to fight Kaido again.

  • @Ka0ziun
    @Ka0ziun 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I mean this in a constructive way but i think you should consider toning done a little the amount/sound intensity of all those little clickings and popup sounds, they get in the way of your video with not a lot of added value as there is so much of them. Halfway through the video and i swear i feel like hearing any of these every 5/10 seconds.

    • @heyitsFluxxy
      @heyitsFluxxy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      i agree it is very annoying

  • @satyen4659
    @satyen4659 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Caribou works for rocks,my opinion

  • @TenshiHinanawi-uq3oy
    @TenshiHinanawi-uq3oy หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looking back at this I wonder if he is supposed to be like Bartolomeo for Crocodile or a weird combination of Crocodile/Buggy? Crocodile knew about Pluton but there are no details revealing how he learned about it, Crocodile in his youth could have been like Caribou and simply overheard everything while on someone else's ship, and both have similar powers, I only consider Buggy to be like Caribou in that he's at the right place at the right time to be hearing about or inheriting treasure for having ties to Roger. For the longest time I assumed Ivankov's secret about Crocodile was that Crocodile used to be part of Cipher Pol, but was inspired to become a pirate by Roger. Some assumptions that can be made are that he left out of self-interest to look for ponegliffs/ancient weapons, the government found out and he became fugitive like Who's Who, and was later made a Shichibukai on the recommendation of Doflamingo to the Gorosei, like a sacrificial pawn i.e. this guy is looking for ponegliffs/ancient weapons, kill and take whatever he finds if he gets anywhere with his search. I think Caribou will end up joining Crossguild in the end because he seems like a treasure hunter in line with Crocodile/Buggy.

  • @bigzero7720
    @bigzero7720 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like the goldem theory, but both him and Corobou having a grandma could put a pretty big screw in it.

  • @chadhonkala1143
    @chadhonkala1143 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Caribou is the obito of one piece. Orchestrating behind the screens lol

  • @mokaljordan
    @mokaljordan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The clicking sounds reminds me of the whipcracks from johnny test lol
    This is a very interesting and cool theory for caribou, but its far fetched a bit since assuming prince grus and caribou are mentally linked grus could of let the navy know the whereabouts of Pluton by now but if prince grus has no way of communicating with caribou then why is caribou inflitrating the blackbeard pirates as prince grus golem?

    • @Parvision-
      @Parvision-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah no for sure that's why I was stuck on the part where not 100% sure about the navybconnection. I think the navy conndction is way too deep to blink away BUT for the prince grus stuff it cud he that when the golem dies, he gets info. Which would be how coribou kept coming back essentially. But let's say it's not and let's say that there is no info link, then the onus of the theoryblies on what swords true goal is. Which for example kizaru said drake was on recon when he ended up joining kaido. So we don't know what the recon was for yet. But if it's just info gathering or "stealing" specific things then maybe drake and caribou could accomplish that which would lend itself to the idea I proposed at the very end regard smoker and the box

    • @mokaljordan
      @mokaljordan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@Parvision- Yea Caribou's Marine ties are interesting, surely its more than just a gag. I could see oda using caribou as an accidental stepping stone for Blackbeard in that Blackbeard has pudding looks thru Caribou's memory to see if hes lying, he finds out Caribou has no past or point of natural birth but confirms hes a Sword Member and the knowledge of poseidon and pluton and kills him. If grus receives the info thru his death ima give u massive Ws, its just dope theory its just iffy atm since we dont know how the clay clay fruit works

    • @Parvision-
      @Parvision-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @mokaljordan yeah I think I'm vetting on the clay fruit alot. But when you consider the creation theories around clay and how oda seemingly is digging deeper into like "religion" and mythos and creation with like the adam tree, gods, bibles, emeth, and seraphims. I'm kind of feeling confident that the clay fruit has some crazy purpose. It might even be that when we get sword in our focal point. The main people will be koby and grus (drake was just a way to get us familiar and I don't think helmeppo will play that role, I think hibari will be important but maybe a strong supporting character for koby [like creating motivation like how kuzan froze her]) grus is actually the rival and I am betting he might be the 2nd focus of sword (if law isn't in sword like alot of ppl think and if the leader of sword is more of a decision maker rather than a growth narrative character)

  • @shayoko6
    @shayoko6 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    this....this is amazing, it all makes sense and it's even more impressive because people don't talk about this character to this level.

  • @billbixby2282
    @billbixby2282 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    He’s a revolutionary

    • @Parvision-
      @Parvision-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @billbixby2282 I thought about that but I think so far the revs havnt really shown morally grey actions to achieve their means. Like they commit crimes but it's always "righteous." They empower nation states for uprisings and do espionage, but caribous current goals haven't lined up. Like the cover story where he was a revolutionary wasn't because he wanted to be there, neither was wano into that regard. Sabaody and fishman island are stronger depictions of what we would look at for what his intentions are and the conversation with van auger.
      I don't see why dragon would infiltrate bb, it's not like we see them interact with any of rhe yonko right?
      But I did and am thinking of the possibility, but I just can't see caribou using kidnapping as a means for anything while being a revolutionary when they're supposed to be the direct opposite and the founders are literally anti human trafficking. It would be wild and terrible for dragons stocks but not impossible is what I'll say

    • @billbixby2282
      @billbixby2282 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How many times have we seen contrasting characters be connected. especially with cross guild about to enter the story also Rocks pirates story. Plus luffy is his father’s son lol so … lol

  • @ImchautzuCHAUTZU
    @ImchautzuCHAUTZU 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The dislikes are all Merphy Napier

  • @xShariNgaN01x
    @xShariNgaN01x 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Caribou being sword is the dumbest idea I heard since raid will fail

    • @Parvision-
      @Parvision-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Lmfao dw I thought so too it's in the clip I put in the first video. It's so ironic that i said that 2 years ago. But I guess even 2 years ago I felt something was up with caribou and sword and I guess the cover story is the huge disconnect in how we view caribou. It's hard to piece why oda devoted 46 chapters to the guy and yet doesn't even consider him to be a character in the volumes lol.

    • @xShariNgaN01x
      @xShariNgaN01x 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Parvision- Odas long plan for caribou was to hand ancient weapon to BB, that’s where the plot went . And yes I agree with you he spent so many cover story for what purpose I never got that either !

    • @Parvision-
      @Parvision-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @xShariNgaN01x haha if the cover story's purpose was to show how caribou was important to drake. Wud make sense. That island was basically made for drake to join kaido. I think there's too many reasons to think that he is navy but the best reason to think he isn't with blackbeard is that his speech mannerism there with van auger is the same as when he was lying to the strawhats and luffy making up and sucking up to them. And at rhe end of rhe day blackbeard is just "master" still need to know who is caribous "lord" that wanted the strawhats. Because when they caught the fake strawhats they wondered if the lord would be upset

  • @uncommonunsense2107
    @uncommonunsense2107 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Something about "Emeth". Soul eater has "emeth" on the first golem too.
    Hebrew Roots movement I was in for a while says Em eth" has Eth cepher in it. Means "I am" or something. True self.
    Emeth also contains the first and last hebrew words. IE "I am the first and last".
    So clay man is emeth/golem and god in a figure of speech in Hebrew. Or something like that. I don't know the Hebrew well at all but it is possible to do this study.
    Also Clay Man is a banger In Flames song.

  • @dubzwilliams353
    @dubzwilliams353 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    YSL Caribou

  • @Baruch2109
    @Baruch2109 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At which part enter caribou enter the labo phase , I don't think he ever entered

  • @wordplayreviews8818
    @wordplayreviews8818 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There is a huge problem with this theory. There is a memory bubble with Caribou and Coribou with what looks like their grandma as kids. Meaning they were kids and grew up. I can see relation to powers but nothing more. They could have also come from a country were people call themselves gods like Skypiea or Caribou is a follower of the same faith as Kuma.

    • @wordplayreviews8818
      @wordplayreviews8818 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But I did just think about the Idea that Groose didn't always have this DF and it would make better sense. The grandmother from the flashback was the df user in the past. He's not only the golum, Caribou's character inspiration is the Gingerbread man. Always getting into trouble but running away at the end. In the story he's finally caught by the fox and eaten because the fox is too smart. And Mr Caribou has just encountered a fox woman.

  • @big3fanboy19
    @big3fanboy19 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The problem with this theory is that it's confirm that the devil fruit of caribou exists called the swamp swamp. Not only that the volume of 62 shows Caribou and his brother in the list.

    • @Parvision-
      @Parvision-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah fishman island volumes do. But that's like 12 years ago. But yet none of the recent ones do. I'd say some more.minor characters showed up. But to not have a character that's on the ship be shown on the volume is crazy. It cud he that oda hadn't solidified his idea around caribout during sabaody but developed it later kind of like what he does with other characters. I mean lucci was the pigeon guy to oda that was supposed to distract us from franky and mid way developed into lucci and I'm sure oda didn't picture this potential from then. Or like law how he says he never imagined him becoming this important to the story

    • @DANCERcow
      @DANCERcow 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I mean, Oda can retcon it like he did the gomu no mi! Lol what's to stop him?

    • @big3fanboy19
      @big3fanboy19 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Parvision- I can't lie it does sound promising about caribou. I will agree that oda can change stuff the volume thing can just be a simple I forgot. Wano alone had so many characters I'm not hooked on that. Another problem beside being a known devil fruit how far does gru's power work. It seems like there always around him he could be like cracker where you can have the clay soliders be different islands. Caribou is in fishman island vs near dressrosa where gru might have been there. I can't see gru having that range for it too work.

    • @Plaugus_Screenz
      @Plaugus_Screenz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@DANCERcow glop glop golem fed the swam swap fruit probably the same way items are fed fruits
      (This is one possibility so a devil fruit creation that ate a relatively similar devil fruit)

  • @huntpredator6359
    @huntpredator6359 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very good theory 👌

  • @Wayofthegamer7
    @Wayofthegamer7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Why did Caribou want to kidnap mermaids in Fishman island?

    • @Parvision-
      @Parvision-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He says he needed money quickly. Once he robbed the castle he said he wudnt need to kidnap them since he had enough money

    • @Par-Blindspot
      @Par-Blindspot 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      For Fish and chips?

    • @Wayofthegamer7
      @Wayofthegamer7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Parvision- I guess Drake had to do bad things to be undercover with Kaido and Coby did help to free Moria to help civilians escape. Still, imagine Coby's reaction if he learns a sword member kidnapped mermaids to sell them into slavery. Unless he would pull a Rayleigh and rescue them just after he sold them like he did with himself to pay his gambling debts. lol

    • @Parvision-
      @Parvision-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @Wayofthegamer7 yeah that's the main thing he said he wudnt hurt them and just said their auction price. If we consider the demaro black crew that he said he was gonna be buried. Ended up being buried in prison and not killed then. I think it wudnt be crazy to think thay caribou just suffered from the preconceptions one would validly put on someone kidnapping mermaids. Just like how one would have for someone who destroyed an entire village for the sake of some secret goal, which would be drake. Apparently caribou just needed fast money which is why he was going after luffy bounty, then the castle treasure and the mermaids. But yeah can't be sure what he was gonna do with the mermaids considering we've never seen caribou complete anything besides save an entire island from kaidos commander scotch and save luffy in udon and ongiashjma

  • @prajjwalchaulagai998
    @prajjwalchaulagai998 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Par coming on with video about caribou. Par please cosplay caribou. No disrespect but you I think you can pull the look 1000%

    • @Parvision-
      @Parvision-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @prajjwalchaulagai998 lmfao dress like a bummmmm? Haha that green suit he wore tho lmfao but I ain't ever gonna get Dat soggy ass hair lmfao

    • @prajjwalchaulagai998
      @prajjwalchaulagai998 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Parvision- yea that hair is something else entirely but like cosplaying someone who has over 40 cover stories is something else. And when it's you someone who has THE vision, I can only imagine how appealing it will be to our eyes

  • @StrawHatKufi
    @StrawHatKufi หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tamas millet ability, where Pluton is, tames wild beasts
    And she’s also a Kurozumi

  • @bhushibhushi4181
    @bhushibhushi4181 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey could you please turn down the click transition sound its very loud

  • @shadow13265
    @shadow13265 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Draaaake!?

    • @Parvision-
      @Parvision-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      A minorrrrrrrrrr lmfaoooo

  • @gingerjoe8835
    @gingerjoe8835 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mr. 10 makes perfect sense… he has an x on his shirt which is ten…. And his brother has an animal companion which fits the other pairs

    • @Parvision-
      @Parvision-  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @gingerjoe8835 wasn't it guy/girl companion tho? Like numbers and then days/holidays?

  • @zorostoned
    @zorostoned 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For that, prince should have atleast yasopp’s level of observation haki. How do you think he can control his clone from that far?

    • @Parvision-
      @Parvision-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @zorostoned I don't think he needs to tbh. Him having high tier obs haki would be nice tho considering koby seems to be talented in that regard too BUT if the clay clay powers pan out to be related to "creation theories" then it's likely his golems are self sustaining. Like on hachinosu, when his golem got cut down in chapter 1080, I don't think he controlled it to mockingly say "that hurt" and I don't think he controlled it to have it reform back into its shape. It might be like something in between crackers biscuits and big mom's homies. But all of this is kind of why I'm placing more emphasis on the story aspect than whether or not it fits in the power structure. Like Karasus soot fruit somehow allows him to use his soot crow as a walkie talkie. That'd be insane obs haki too, but maybe there's a different explanation oda will give us outside of obs haki that just twists how his power works a bit.

  • @se7enthsoul
    @se7enthsoul 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Guys I think it's pretty simple... Caribou is Blackbeards Barto

    • @Parvision-
      @Parvision-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It could be. It's not impossible but there's alot of extra stuff along with carubout that's just odd

  • @alexmipego
    @alexmipego 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Oda's story has a "repeating" pattern of characters of a "class" failing, or winning, in different ways. The "old" yonko… the supernovas… etc…
    Without trying to deep analyse this, it's like the 7 sins, and characters each fall for one. This is relevant, as it may explain that another "class" is spies. For example, Caribou can end up failing, Kuzan may actually win… and remember, it's like 99% sure there's an old character that has been spying for the Elders/Imu.
    If I'm correct, I think the concept is about showing different ways people seek power… and fail.

  • @ayumz7jee
    @ayumz7jee 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    great video, but the constant clicking sound was kind of annoying

    • @Parvision-
      @Parvision-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you for the feedback. I will make sure to have the changes done for futue

  • @stewiegriffin1042
    @stewiegriffin1042 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's a good video. I wonder if "burying someone alive" is a synonym for sending them somewhere or absorbing someone. We saw with Kuzan what incredible range the logia fruits can have. What is also suspicious about Caribou is his design. He has two crescent moons on his face, his beard and his forehead. The crescent moon on his forehead is exactly as you can see it from the North Pole. I also believe that his name (Caribous are actually north american reindeers) is a hint as to where he is from, probably a cold region with Inuit connections. Perhaps Luffy's comment about his "wild nature" was meant more in the sense of "he instinctively knows how to survive among stronger people", just like animals do.
    I don't think he is a golem... we know that haki can nullify df abilities. So when Caribou was hit with Haki, he should no longer be alive. If not haki then the sea water should nullify it. Otherwise Prince abilities are from another dimension.
    Do we have any confirmation that what Luffy sensed during the Fish Man arc was Caribou? I mean it could have been just a coincidence.

    • @Parvision-
      @Parvision-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Haki "can" nullify devil fruit abilities. But gear 4 haki luffy punches couldn't "nullify" crackers biscuit clones. That's probably the best example that shows how a cloned creation does not just disappear or get negated by haki presence esp a strong one like luffys in comparison to pekoms haki which didn't even blacken his fist. But separate to that big mom and perospero have devil fruit creations that are not negated by water. Her ship, but also perospero made a candy slug that sails the ocean. And big mom put her homie into a ocean wave and controlled it via a mixture of candy and water. So another example of how the same weakness devil fruit users succumb to don't necessarily apply to their creations and these were more recent examples as far as the story goes.
      But on the part of grus power being out of this world. I'm sure it will be mainly because oda is digging into mythical references eith the gorosei and luffy/emeth, so it wudnt be crazy if he tied the clay power to the myth of clay from all or any of the creation theories around the world from the Bible to maoris(I forget the proper term but liek the pacific island beliefs).
      I mean apparently karasus soot logia works like a walkie talkie somehow, so oda is definitely on board with stretching the logic.
      But I do agree with the caribou references thay are interesting to say the least