We Love ya Brian...and Thanks for keeping us Rockin'...Feels like...Sadness...We won't forget thee... your fan Michael from Novs Scotia, Canada.Thanks Lads...Company!!!
Saw this tour Bismarck north Dakota 3/3/91 with Damn Yankees! Awesome and one of the loudest shows I've ever been to! To bad music is beyond horrible if u lived the 80s early 90s music u were fortunate!!
Brian was the better singer !!! Like Paul to, don't like that they don't seem to acknowledge this time of Bad Company's history. Brian deserves to be credited with Bad Company's history!!!
Holy hell, I saw this tour... Bad Company/Damn Yankees at the Paolo Soleri in Sante Fe. I'll never forget when Brian Howe stopped in the middle of the set because some ass was throwing ice on the stage. He threatened to beat the hell out of the guy... "And then," he added, "I'm gonna f*ck your girlfriend." :D
Yep the bass dude is Paul Cullen!! I should know...thats me. As far as the debate on PR or BH, all's I'll say is I wish Paul was singing when I was in the band. I have some inside info that would curl your toes!! haha
Paul - Granted I’m replying to some of your posts that are 8-9 years old, so I’m taking that into consideration. That being said, me and about 10,000 other people also have stories that would ‘curl your toes’ about Paul Rodgers and Simon Kirke. The sword goes both ways, man. One of the funniest is the fact that over about the last 10 years, Simon and Paul are repeatedly on the phone with TH-cam anytime somebody attempts to put the ‘Bad Company - Behind the Music’ full video up. It offends them that some of the previous videos that were up had hundreds of posts/conversations that praised the Howe-era of the band. Obviously they couldn’t have THAT happening, so every time one of the videos is put back up, they file junctions to have it taken down - pulling a ‘Sharon Osbourne’ and trying to bury that history of the band any chance they get. 🤣 Toddler bullshit, but that’s the least of how (mainly) those 2 guys are..Then there’s the story how they both said F you to the idea of an all eras one-off Bad Company concert featuring all three singers - with proceeds going to a children’s cancer research center. Class acts..👍 Hope all is well.. peace.
I knew Brian personally back then when he was with Bad Company, Brian and Terry Thomas did all the work on those albums produced when Brian was in the band. Mick and Simon did squat. They fought Brian on everything. They didn't want to be under the name Bad Company anymore, it was the record company that demanded it. They were asshats to Brian while Brian was fulfilling the contract. I heard the messages they left Brian. Brian and Terry produced great albums.
I believe the Bass Player in this Bad Company Line-Up is a Fellow named Paul From Ft Myers Fl who played here with the* Boys of Summer* immediately before getting hired for this Tour-[I booked them at their last gig at a Theme Park in Ft Myers Fl ] before He left to join Brain Howe and Bad Co. For a National Tour-for their HIT -*HOLY WATER* I do not know his last last name off hand-Thomas!
It's a shame that personal differences get in the way of great music. My very first Bad Co. CD was Holy Water. An awesome album, and Howe has an amazing voice. However I also think PR is amazing as well. They are so different that there cannot be a fair comparison. I wish I knew more about what went wrong with Howe in BadCo.
If you know what makes the quality, range, vocal type, and power level of a voice and have a background in music you could compare it this way: Brian Howe was a 5-octave tenor (like Lou Gramm and Freddie Mercury), this is often referred to as the "unicorn" vocal type in Rock. Add to that Howe had a 5-octave "range" and could sing across the range with no loss of power and breath and you will have an idea how he compares to Rodgers, who has the most common vocal type in rock: mid-baritone. Now, also compare that Rodgers was and is now a 3-octave baritone. This means he is basically incapable of singing most of Howe's songs and you'll begin to understand why he's had a hard-on for Howe his whole career. Despite that--or because of it--that Howe saved Bad Co. literally from oblivion when Kirke and Ralphs hired Howe after hearing his voice in the hallway at Atco(Atlantic) in 1985. (I was a young reporter back then and I could tell you a lot about what happened and most of it points to Howe's bandmates deciding to act more like fruit loops than professional musicians during the 80s and 90s). During Howe's 86-94 tenure in the Band he wrote 95% of every album they put out (4 of them) which resulted in 2 Gold albums and a Platinum album (Holy Water) and 15k-25k ticket sales every night on arena tours, which the band hadn't seen since the 70s, with Howe singing all of Rodgers' 70s songs in baritone with ease like Feel Like Makin' Love, and then running back up the other end of the scale to sing his own tenor songs like Holy Water and No Smoke without a Fire without any problem or loss of quality. I could go on and on about the incredible talent of his writing, voice, and his still winning awards in Hollywood in 2018 (Hot Tin Roof), and what he did for that band so that Rodgers would even *have* a band to go back to almost 20 years after he gave up on them and left them in the dust in 83, or the quality of Howe's voice still being present in his own touring years later, right up until his death 2 months ago on 6 May 2020, at age 66, gone so too soon. But I will stop before I say several things about Rodgers, Kirke, and Ralphs which would be unladylike and unprofessional as a journalist. I am writing an article about Howe, about what happened, and am currently interviewing people who spoke with him in the weeks before his passing. I will leave the conversation with this line from Howe's song Stranger than Fiction (autobiographical) "And there ain't no ocean wide enough that can put out this flame! And he will fight for all the powers above until the world knows his name..." There sure wasn't anything that could put out that flame, and there isn't now even in death. I know Howe's *walking on Holy Water* in the next life, just as his voice and his writing will walk on Holy Water in my memories--leben (forever). Brian RIP my dude, we know your name, and we will never forget you.
R Rogers thanks a ton for such informative post. Brian Howe will live for ever in our memory!! He has a voice which rings in your ear long after you listen to him. Really amazing talent
Brian Howe was writhing most of the music that Bad Co was performing at the time. The other members of Bad Co were not contributing much at all to the writing of their songs. They were also singing the wrong lyrics to some of Brian’s songs on purpose, trying to make Brian seem unprofessional. Brian stood his ground. Kirke and Ralphs were the unprofessional ones. Because Kirke and Ralphs were not doing most of the writing, and being unprofessional to Brian, he split from Bad Co. I don’t blame him for that. Everything that I’m telling you is the truth. There is information on the internet if you don’t believe me. Do the research, and you will know what I’m saying is true.
pretty funny...I just got an email from Howe's lawyer (who is none existent) saying I need to stop posting about him or he'll sue. LOL!! Straightshooter Yes Mick and Simon despised him and fired him while I was in the band. Only to have the record company insist on one more CD (Here Comes Trouble). For sure PR was not happy he was singing the old BC. Bucket was in tight with Mick R so he stayed in the band. Rightly so....he's a great guy. You'll have to read my new book to hear more of what it was like to play with Rock Legends Mick and Simon. Should be out in a couple of weeks.
Paul Cullen, There's no doubt your insight verifies the long-time rumors that Howe and the group were pretty dysfunctional, and thanks for sharing that. You can't take away the succes the band had with him in front, with two gold and one platinum albums, and substantial audience response on tour. He's very likely a jerk, but the public accepted that version of the band, not much doubt about that.
Brian Jonestone For sure Brian, there was no doubt it was a successful time for BC. I actually got to enjoy some of that as the bassist. Lets give credit to Terry Thomas. He produced and wrote 90% of the songs. So then the question was, it really Bad Co? Given that Mick and Simon didn't really have that much input, I'd say not really. 7 songs on Holy Water were written by Thomas. Only a handful with Mick as co-writer, which I think was just to make them happy. Listen to Giant and Foreigner albums released in the time period produced by Thomas. Sounds like the same bands.
Paul...please tell! Curl our toes!! Stumbled on your comment when I just said to my wife " I saw this line up live but couldn't place the bass player..." I always knew Simon and Mick weren't happy with this ensemble- not you -but with Brian--please details details! Interesting 'Dave Bucket' was on the 2001 DVD concert with Paul Rodgers...was PR pissed about BH in the band? Did he care? I heard BH and Bad co never spoke on tour? Did BH hate the mane PR? BTW dig your youtube channel!
Ok.... Just wanna share this take on the Charlotte gig. So they.... Mic and Simon didn't like Brian Howe... Yea I can tell... There playing like shit. Here they performing a great song and being fronted by one of the best rock vocalists on the fucking planet.... Sorry....and that's all they can do on that first verse.... That's bullshit.... And yet .. we still get to hear Brian sing his heart out..... he's singing live.... So who knows how good the monitor mix was??? Listen to all the vocal and libs he sang and still kept the studio vibe. I think this song is one of the best rock songs ever... Sung by one of the best vocalists of our life time. RIP Brian
Which happened with unnerving frequency during Howe's tenure with bad Co leaving him and Terry Thomas to do most of the writing, production, studio recording, videos, touring organizing etc. etc. Howe worked his a** off for that band and was given nothing but crap for it, but despite Ralphs and Kirke failing to show up half the time I'm sure they appreciated all the money Brian was bringing in for them by filling 15k-25k seat arena concerts on tour, writing 95% of the songs on 2 Gold albums and the Platinum Holy Water for them during his tenure? Then when Howe died 2 months ago Rodgers made fun of his death. Unprofessional and heinous. They were unprofessional hacks all of them and they didn't deserve the level of talent or work ethic Howe brought to that band.
They had a good thing going. Too bad Kirke&Ralphs went their own way from Howe after this tour. Relationship with Howe went South quickly. Kirke and Ralphs had their own demons to contend with at that time, with Kirke admitting his alcoholism during this period. He and Howe weren't on speaking terms Through "The Holy Water" era with no input from Ralphs dealing with his own issues. RIP Brian Howe and God Speed
@Philip Holmes Booze and blow for a long time starting in the late 70's. In fact Ralphs on Bad Co. Reunion Tour 1999, had his own touring bus because of his addictions. Rogers and Kirke shared their own 1999 Tour bus because of Ralphs addictions. Thats why Rodgers quit in 1982 and the same friction with Brian Howe. Howe was sick of Kirke and Ralphs drug and alcohol problems. Howe was doing all the work.
@Philip Holmes Yes he did. Late 2015 or 2016. Permanently disabled. Not doing good at all. Besides seeing him with Bad Co. Burning Sky Tour 1977, Reunion Tour 1999, I saw him live 1984 playing guitar for David Gilmours About Face Tour.
@Philip Holmes Of course. Followed Mott the Hoople back then. He also wrote quite a few hits for Bad Co. Everyone thinks Rodgers wrote all. Wrong. Ralphs wrote like 5-6 big hits for Bad Co. like Movin On, Good Lovin Gone Bad, Can't Get Enough to name a few off the top of my head.
the BH era produced much better songs... yes down to Terry Thomas...what a songwriter... every one a bona fide stadium rock classic a la Foreigner style...Howe had a better voice in his prime... totally suited the stuff that Thomas wrote... and the production was top notch too... give me AOR Bad Co over Classic rock Bad Co any day!!
I was at this concert! Awesome memories. R.I.P. Brian Howe .
Rest In Peace Brian Howe
Well Said...
Fantastic artist. Missed by many.
Great singer Brian Howe he just oozed passion in his voice
The main riff was not played right at the start.
Brian s voice at this time was IMO very similar to Lou Gramm s voice a powerful and soulful Blues Rock style of voice.
I liked him better than Paul Rodgers.
@@warrenmooney9422 I loved em both but I'd have to agree with you.Brian was simply awesome no matter where he sang.
Exactly
We Love ya Brian...and Thanks for keeping us Rockin'...Feels like...Sadness...We won't forget thee... your fan Michael from Novs Scotia, Canada.Thanks Lads...Company!!!
Saw this tour Bismarck north Dakota 3/3/91 with Damn Yankees! Awesome and one of the loudest shows I've ever been to! To bad music is beyond horrible if u lived the 80s early 90s music u were fortunate!!
I am heartbroken for Brian's family and bandmates. I love their music
This dude was a GIANT!
RIP Brian Howe
Loved Brian with Bad CO, RIP
Brian was the better singer !!! Like Paul to, don't like that they don't seem to acknowledge this time of Bad Company's history. Brian deserves to be credited with Bad Company's history!!!
Absolutely, some very good music came from what I’ll call Bad Co. II
Holy hell, I saw this tour... Bad Company/Damn Yankees at the Paolo Soleri in Sante Fe. I'll never forget when Brian Howe stopped in the middle of the set because some ass was throwing ice on the stage. He threatened to beat the hell out of the guy... "And then," he added, "I'm gonna f*ck your girlfriend." :D
Yep the bass dude is Paul Cullen!! I should know...thats me. As far as the debate on PR or BH, all's I'll say is I wish Paul was singing when I was in the band. I have some inside info that would curl your toes!! haha
Paul Cullen wow!!!! Must have been an experience at least I bet!!!
All right, so it isn't Jaz or Felix (I knew it wasn't Boz).
Paul - Granted I’m replying to some of your posts that are 8-9 years old, so I’m taking that into consideration. That being said, me and about 10,000 other people also have stories that would ‘curl your toes’ about Paul Rodgers and Simon Kirke. The sword goes both ways, man.
One of the funniest is the fact that over about the last 10 years, Simon and Paul are repeatedly on the phone with TH-cam anytime somebody attempts to put the ‘Bad Company - Behind the Music’ full video up. It offends them that some of the previous videos that were up had hundreds of posts/conversations that praised the Howe-era of the band. Obviously they couldn’t have THAT happening, so every time one of the videos is put back up, they file junctions to have it taken down - pulling a ‘Sharon Osbourne’ and trying to bury that history of the band any chance they get. 🤣 Toddler bullshit, but that’s the least of how (mainly) those 2 guys are..Then there’s the story how they both said F you to the idea of an all eras one-off Bad Company concert featuring all three singers - with proceeds going to a children’s cancer research center. Class acts..👍
Hope all is well.. peace.
I knew Brian personally back then when he was with Bad Company, Brian and Terry Thomas did all the work on those albums produced when Brian was in the band. Mick and Simon did squat. They fought Brian on everything. They didn't want to be under the name Bad Company anymore, it was the record company that demanded it. They were asshats to Brian while Brian was fulfilling the contract. I heard the messages they left Brian. Brian and Terry produced great albums.
The bass player is Paul Cullen.I actually spoke to him about this video
I Dedicate This Song To The Girl Who Stole My Heart
This is much better than the danmm video.
I believe the Bass Player in this Bad Company Line-Up is a Fellow named Paul From Ft Myers Fl who played here with the* Boys of Summer* immediately before getting hired for this Tour-[I booked them at their last gig at a Theme Park in Ft Myers Fl ] before He left to join Brain Howe and Bad Co. For a National Tour-for their HIT -*HOLY WATER* I do not know his last last name off hand-Thomas!
YEP IT ROCKS HARD,BRIAN HOWE IS A MIC MASTER
It's a shame that personal differences get in the way of great music. My very first Bad Co. CD was Holy Water. An awesome album, and Howe has an amazing voice. However I also think PR is amazing as well. They are so different that there cannot be a fair comparison. I wish I knew more about what went wrong with Howe in BadCo.
If you know what makes the quality, range, vocal type, and power level of a voice and have a background in music you could compare it this way: Brian Howe was a 5-octave tenor (like Lou Gramm and Freddie Mercury), this is often referred to as the "unicorn" vocal type in Rock. Add to that Howe had a 5-octave "range" and could sing across the range with no loss of power and breath and you will have an idea how he compares to Rodgers, who has the most common vocal type in rock: mid-baritone. Now, also compare that Rodgers was and is now a 3-octave baritone. This means he is basically incapable of singing most of Howe's songs and you'll begin to understand why he's had a hard-on for Howe his whole career. Despite that--or because of it--that Howe saved Bad Co. literally from oblivion when Kirke and Ralphs hired Howe after hearing his voice in the hallway at Atco(Atlantic) in 1985. (I was a young reporter back then and I could tell you a lot about what happened and most of it points to Howe's bandmates deciding to act more like fruit loops than professional musicians during the 80s and 90s).
During Howe's 86-94 tenure in the Band he wrote 95% of every album they put out (4 of them) which resulted in 2 Gold albums and a Platinum album (Holy Water) and 15k-25k ticket sales every night on arena tours, which the band hadn't seen since the 70s, with Howe singing all of Rodgers' 70s songs in baritone with ease like Feel Like Makin' Love, and then running back up the other end of the scale to sing his own tenor songs like Holy Water and No Smoke without a Fire without any problem or loss of quality. I could go on and on about the incredible talent of his writing, voice, and his still winning awards in Hollywood in 2018 (Hot Tin Roof), and what he did for that band so that Rodgers would even *have* a band to go back to almost 20 years after he gave up on them and left them in the dust in 83, or the quality of Howe's voice still being present in his own touring years later, right up until his death 2 months ago on 6 May 2020, at age 66, gone so too soon. But I will stop before I say several things about Rodgers, Kirke, and Ralphs which would be unladylike and unprofessional as a journalist. I am writing an article about Howe, about what happened, and am currently interviewing people who spoke with him in the weeks before his passing. I will leave the conversation with this line from Howe's song Stranger than Fiction (autobiographical) "And there ain't no ocean wide enough that can put out this flame! And he will fight for all the powers above until the world knows his name..."
There sure wasn't anything that could put out that flame, and there isn't now even in death. I know Howe's *walking on Holy Water* in the next life, just as his voice and his writing will walk on Holy Water in my memories--leben (forever).
Brian RIP my dude, we know your name, and we will never forget you.
R Rogers thanks a ton for such informative post. Brian Howe will live for ever in our memory!! He has a voice which rings in your ear long after you listen to him. Really amazing talent
@@RoxyWrites thx so much for this, Brian's voice is wut I remember hearing that I had fallen in love with, the original Bad Co in late 70's n 80s.
Brian Howe was writhing most of the music that Bad Co was performing at the time. The other members of Bad Co were not contributing much at all to the writing of their songs. They were also singing the wrong lyrics to some of Brian’s songs on purpose, trying to make Brian seem unprofessional. Brian stood his ground. Kirke and Ralphs were the unprofessional ones. Because Kirke and Ralphs were not doing most of the writing, and being unprofessional to Brian, he split from Bad Co. I don’t blame him for that. Everything that I’m telling you is the truth. There is information on the internet if you don’t believe me. Do the research, and you will know what I’m saying is true.
@@RoxyWriteswhere is your article? with your permission I would love to read.
Tight.
the best fomartion in bad company's guitar line
mick ralphs & dave "bucket" colwell!!!!!
OMG.... Brian
pretty funny...I just got an email from Howe's lawyer (who is none existent) saying I need to stop posting about him or he'll sue. LOL!! Straightshooter Yes Mick and Simon despised him and fired him while I was in the band. Only to have the record company insist on one more CD (Here Comes Trouble). For sure PR was not happy he was singing the old BC. Bucket was in tight with Mick R so he stayed in the band. Rightly so....he's a great guy. You'll have to read my new book to hear more of what it was like to play with Rock Legends Mick and Simon. Should be out in a couple of weeks.
Paul Cullen, There's no doubt your insight verifies the long-time rumors that Howe and the group were pretty dysfunctional, and thanks for sharing that. You can't take away the succes the band had with him in front, with two gold and one platinum albums, and substantial audience response on tour. He's very likely a jerk, but the public accepted that version of the band, not much doubt about that.
Brian Jonestone For sure Brian, there was no doubt it was a successful time for BC. I actually got to enjoy some of that as the bassist. Lets give credit to Terry Thomas. He produced and wrote 90% of the songs. So then the question was, it really Bad Co? Given that Mick and Simon didn't really have that much input, I'd say not really. 7 songs on Holy Water were written by Thomas. Only a handful with Mick as co-writer, which I think was just to make them happy. Listen to Giant and Foreigner albums released in the time period produced by Thomas. Sounds like the same bands.
Paul...please tell! Curl our toes!! Stumbled on your comment when I just said to my wife " I saw this line up live but couldn't place the bass player..." I always knew Simon and Mick weren't happy with this ensemble- not you -but with Brian--please details details! Interesting 'Dave Bucket' was on the 2001 DVD concert with Paul Rodgers...was PR pissed about BH in the band? Did he care? I heard BH and Bad co never spoke on tour? Did BH hate the mane PR? BTW dig your youtube channel!
i do like paul singin in the group. but i do have to say i think Brian is better and is the heart and soul.
Ok.... Just wanna share this take on the Charlotte gig. So they.... Mic and Simon didn't like Brian Howe... Yea I can tell... There playing like shit. Here they performing a great song and being fronted by one of the best rock vocalists on the fucking planet.... Sorry....and that's all they can do on that first verse.... That's bullshit.... And yet .. we still get to hear Brian sing his heart out..... he's singing live.... So who knows how good the monitor mix was??? Listen to all the vocal and libs he sang and still kept the studio vibe. I think this song is one of the best rock songs ever... Sung by one of the best vocalists of our life time. RIP Brian
Yeah Brian is probably wondering what in the hell are you guys doing.
It seems Brian is probably losing his voice .too.
I agree with you oh God I don't think brain waa happy that night.
Are there any better quality videos of Bad Company with Brian Howe? Where did they go?
This is better than the danmm video.
He was better that Paul Rodgers IMO
Well at least Mick Ralphs was at this show, I saw BC in Chicago in 1990, Mick was a no show that night.......
Which happened with unnerving frequency during Howe's tenure with bad Co leaving him and Terry Thomas to do most of the writing, production, studio recording, videos, touring organizing etc. etc. Howe worked his a** off for that band and was given nothing but crap for it, but despite Ralphs and Kirke failing to show up half the time I'm sure they appreciated all the money Brian was bringing in for them by filling 15k-25k seat arena concerts on tour, writing 95% of the songs on 2 Gold albums and the Platinum Holy Water for them during his tenure? Then when Howe died 2 months ago Rodgers made fun of his death. Unprofessional and heinous. They were unprofessional hacks all of them and they didn't deserve the level of talent or work ethic Howe brought to that band.
Simon said that he didn't have a good relationship with Brian.
Mick sat out most of the 1990 tour for family reasons. Planned absence, not a no show
Who's on Bass. It doesn't quite look like Boz (rip), but not sure (Felix Kresh or Jaz Lochrie???)
Paul Cullen is on bass. That's who I got the tape from
👈😎☝️
I am drinking it !!!!!
@midblu i have a cd signed by him and my shirt signed by him and the band
He doesn't know about a fucked up town until he comes to Abilene
They had a good thing going. Too bad Kirke&Ralphs went their own way from Howe after this tour. Relationship with Howe went South quickly. Kirke and Ralphs had their own demons to contend with at that time, with Kirke admitting his alcoholism during this period. He and Howe weren't on speaking terms Through "The Holy Water" era with no input from Ralphs dealing with his own issues. RIP Brian Howe and God Speed
@Philip Holmes Booze and blow for a long time starting in the late 70's. In fact Ralphs on Bad Co. Reunion Tour 1999, had his own touring bus because of his addictions. Rogers and Kirke shared their own 1999 Tour bus because of Ralphs addictions. Thats why Rodgers quit in 1982 and the same friction with Brian Howe. Howe was sick of Kirke and Ralphs drug and alcohol problems. Howe was doing all the work.
@Philip Holmes Yes he did. Late 2015 or 2016. Permanently disabled. Not doing good at all. Besides seeing him with Bad Co. Burning Sky Tour 1977, Reunion Tour 1999, I saw him live 1984 playing guitar for David Gilmours About Face Tour.
@Philip Holmes Of course. Followed Mott the Hoople back then. He also wrote quite a few hits for Bad Co. Everyone thinks Rodgers wrote all. Wrong. Ralphs wrote like 5-6 big hits for Bad Co. like Movin On, Good Lovin Gone Bad, Can't Get Enough to name a few off the top of my head.
@Philip Holmes Exactly!
Yeah it seems like the boys were in Hell at that time
@johnmark71 I'da given my left one to have been there!!!
Mick & Simon Are The Only Bad Company Here, And Mick Left Because It Was Bullshyt !
I liked Brian Howe but he kind of had a John Waite kind of voice
the BH era produced much better songs... yes down to Terry Thomas...what a songwriter... every one a bona fide stadium rock classic a la Foreigner style...Howe had a better voice in his prime... totally suited the stuff that Thomas wrote... and the production was top notch too... give me AOR Bad Co over Classic rock Bad Co any day!!
Brian Howe was a great singer, but the idea that this Bad Company was better than the 70's version is comical at best.
Paul who ? Oh you mean the guy who was a " Rock Star " for ten minutes ? Watching him in this video desperately chasing the spotlight.
Of the three frontmen, Brian Howe was undoubtedly the best! It's the same case as Van Halen, where Sammy Hagar's vocals were #1 in the band!
Mick Ralphs is a B grade guitar player.