9:55 Don't be surprised TMM. DennyMazs can say it all day long and nobody bats an eye. In fact its met with mad laughter. But AfterschoolSophie does it and instantly gets obliterated. Its honestly sad.
Being a Russian myself, I concur with MM’s words about us being sweats All the people I know who play videogames are always trying their hardest to win, spend a lot of time labbing/watching guides I tried thinking about it and asking my friends why do they think we do this “We can’t do it any other way” was the most common response
Ya I'll admit: I didn't play Tekken because of its rage-inducing tactics from gameplay. With Jin, I struggle the most with nimble characters like Nina.
Yeah, I think for some reason he doesn't know that 20 frames aren't 20 frames across the board. 2 attacks with 20 frames can be completly different in terms of reactiability. Startup distinction and sound cue are what's important. You can have a attack with 50 frames being unreactable if for the first 40 frames there is no visible animation.... Frames dont really mean that much
@@Ace-tq9kr Other way round for me. I've been able to react to db4 once in a while and that was on PS4 T7 online but never hellsweep. Someone I play offline on T8 though will block Jin's hellsweep over 90% of the time but not db4 that reliably. D2 is useless against him.
Because unlike all those characters, Jin lacks on fast mid moves that are plus frames on block, and the second thing is that people got so traumatized of Jin being extremely op that there are TH-cam videos, and comments sections that tell other players how to beat Jin. So in total a huge amount of players already labed Jin, and a huge amount knows what’s coming. I mean the character is strong but calling it broken or op is just a fallacy.
@@sweetpeaakay lol just bc u labbed the char doesn´t mean u won´t get cooked online......... especially when facing a good player. You can´t just auto win just bc you know the matchup otherwise Knee would never ever lose a tourney at all and ppl at god ranks wouldn´t have the need to complain so ur point is laughable
i play Kazuya and tekken 8 is my first fighting game ever. I'm now stuck at Fujin because of these spam characters, i hate them i really hate them. My head is gona burst
Jin isn't hard at all. I'm not a Mishima player at all and never played them before, picked up Jin on a dare and within 3 days I was already in purple ranks. Jin is bullshit
@zesork5627 yeah I gave up cuz it was boring and quit there. Also who gives a shit if I'm not Arslan Ash GoD rank sweaty no lifer? Tekken is boring, I play games that I like.
@zesork5627 first one I've seen on this channel in a long time. The game is boring as fuck to play but mildly interesting to watch. God you sweaty nerds are so obnoxious
@@sibusisolanga663 Arslan ash literally agrees in his tierlist. jins weakness is the reactablity of his lows. If you are focused with no mental stack. You can in fact react to hellweep . Phidx also made a video about it
Now, I’m not a Jin downplayer...😂 But I have seen people do drills to react to Jin’s hellsweep. Yes it’s i20, but he doesn’t have any other move that has the same startup animation. PhiDX has a video with this in it and I mean 99.99% percent of players can’t do it. If they can they gotta be really prepared
I had to return to check if I liked the video. Fun stuff right here. I can’t even tell what TMM is going through when Jin mains say: “He has no lows.” Bros he downplaying a character that isn’t ‘broken’, but definitely has a power crush-CRUSHER and a non-steppable electric. It’s not that Jin’s low can’t be reacted to, it’s just that there is a fine line between ‘reading’ and ‘reacting’. To react to Jin’s low, you have to look for the body twist, not for the body lighting up or scream. It’s sensory confusion that Victor’s power crush once had (it’d already hit you by the time you noticed the power crush effect, so they fixed it by adding that effect AS SOON AS YOU START). Basically, if they add the electricity effect as soon as the low is being executed, then it’d work. It’s readable but not REACTABLE right now.
U literally can react to it, it’s the most distinct animation Jin has, almost everyone past kishin blocks every single d2 and d4 it’s not even funny, he has no lows except d4
Jin is easily one of the silliest characters in the game without a doubt. Too much for too little and its not even that tough. You dont even need to do perfect electric to play him properly.
I also think Jin's hell sweep is reactable, it's slow compared to devil jin and Kazuya's hell sweep and mainly because Jin hell sweep's start up is different and slower. He goes from crouch dash to slow standing (position) movement to mid curved (bending) position and does low round kick. While DJin and Kazuya remain in their crouch dash ducking position and spin the kick very fast. So specially with mixups both kazuya and Djin have very annoying hell sweeps while i can spot Jin because as i said above he goes into slight standing position after CD and bends a little and does low round kick instead of being in ducking position after CD and doing spin kick like djin and kazuya do. I am not saying that i can block it 10 out of 10 times but yeah i can do that 8/10 times if not 9/10 compared to DJin and Kazuya's hell sweeps which are 50-50 for me. But who in their right mind say that Jin has no lows? D+2, d+4 and both are faster than his hell sweep. Db+4 is also good.
Tmm and his hate for jin a never ending love story . I know jin is cheap . But he really doesn't deserve the hate he gets when characters like alisa , Victor , yoshi, drag , feng, zafina, xiayou, hwoarang exist in the game .
@@bonfist7277 bruh, i want to hear his reaction. I'm talking about him talking with the chat and not watching for like 70% of the video. It wasn't even an offensive comment why y'all so hurt by it?
@@LogariusKay I think you forget that he's a streamer?? That's literally like.....his Job to look and talk to chat.....and he gets paid for it..........🤷♂️
it is probably his biggest weakness, d4 does like no damage, d2 offline is react-able, hellsweep is good but it doesn’t net as much of a reward as most of the other mishima’s(looking at you reina). He’s got options but each of them has a defined weakness
@@nayd5043 no he's right. At high level it gets really clear how bad his lows are. D2 gets almost always blocked and even parried, you'd be suprised. He has the worst hellsweep out of all Mishimas. Db4 is "good" d4 is decent but it lacks in damage. I believe even Arslan Ash said that Jins lows are his only weakpoint
watch phi dx's reaction training. you can react to jin's hellsweep. it's very difficult but you have to watch the shoulder movement. He does the drill of 5 different moves including ff3 and d2 and he blocks the hellsweep on reaction most times. In a real match it's very hard even at pro level but saying it's not doable is wrong
Yeah. I watched it just now. First, he’s in training mode. Second, even in training mode, he proceeds to get hit by every single Jin Hellsweep!! 🤣🤣🤣. You can’t make this up!! Ahahaha. He’s not even in a real match and he’s getting hit by it every time. Give me a break. Lmao. Nobody is reacting to this unless it’s a hard read. He’s giving some pro players too much credit, saying they are reacting when they are making hard reads.
As a Jin main I can confidently day he's brain dead easy to use, but 95% of the playerbase know his entire moveset so he's not easy to play, hope this helps
Jin players are the ultimate scrubs And when you realize they think they are genuinely good at tekken because they beat other players using their "Little Brother-mode" character 😂 8:00 d'aaaaw ! I very often have fun with other players, doing stance dances, twerking with Reina etc
this was a jump-scare to see on my feed, much luv mainman 😭🙏
I had to sub you're funny asf
congrats to see you got his attention bro
So did you get G.O.D. with Jin?
yes, he’s a pretty simple character lol
Nice edit 👌🏻
The reason Jin mains say Jin has no lows in T8 is because he lost his biggest low: Depression.
Replaced it with the power to believe in his heart.
Leroy causing problems since his debut. No wonder Xaioyu is so crazy in 8 as well
I like older women
Good for you, man.
Me too. A man of culture
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Elite taste
Older than 16 is already fine to talk. But yall 40yo fossilised mf are somwhat exclueded from this.
“BootyWarrior thanks for the follow” 💀💀
@@aj00 must be Diddy Epstein 💀
Denny raging reminds me of my self when ive played for to many hours and i miss my inputs on a promotional match xD
How does DennyMaz have such a voice when he's yelling?😭😭😭 Especially since he played against that one and done Xiaoyu in the Kaz video
Finally a new video from my favourite cult leader
thats now two times my face has been in a tmm vid LMAO
Who are you man
@ a guy who likes tekken lol
cap
Where tho
@@jackdominguez2074:34
I think its also we ain't all pro players. There's like a different meta for each level of play
Jin Kazama is the most badass character ever created. It's almost unbelievable that such a badass character even exists
Jin kazamas biological father*
You mean his dad?
@@donttouchmykokoropls5752 No. His sperm donor.
Hehachi and armour king exist
5:25 you can also Omen after df there
A complete masterpiece
''Wassup guys MainManSwe here hope you doing awesome as always and we got a video by arguably the best tekken editor in the game DennyMaz''
MainMan watching like “😢 why can’t people have fun with me like this?” 7:42
7:43 aren’t you the one who blocked schizophrenic69 for not being sweaty?
schizo wasn't being chill he's literally cheesing bullshit every game, that's the difference. he's not spamming crouchdash cancels for fun for example
He's a stream sniper who uses other people's content for views because he knows no one wants to watch his content
Its funny how this video made more views than the original video
you have auto everything out of wind stance with cd, you also get omen
It's not that russians are the best, they just never quit.
In T7, they'd rematch until they win. got 3 promotions one time fighting one lol.
5:04 both Jin and Bryan explained in some 20 frames
5:48 i learned this the first week with hei and abuse it online lol
Where did you get the intro music?
Please?
9:55 Don't be surprised TMM. DennyMazs can say it all day long and nobody bats an eye. In fact its met with mad laughter. But AfterschoolSophie does it and instantly gets obliterated. Its honestly sad.
Yeah it's true. But also that's what streamers do to get more views now, to be loud and crass. That's what attracts kids and casuals
Buff Jin, Nerf Leroy
Main man cooom
In NA east you find them all the time in my experience
I never played Jin in a tekken game before T8 but now he’s my main because EZ dubs😂😂
You disgust me
9:57 Mainman, we just talk that way lol LTG does it with malice. It's not the same.
nova 5 hour long essay reaction next :)
video begins 2:30
Thank you
Being a Russian myself, I concur with MM’s words about us being sweats
All the people I know who play videogames are always trying their hardest to win, spend a lot of time labbing/watching guides
I tried thinking about it and asking my friends why do they think we do this
“We can’t do it any other way” was the most common response
Ya I'll admit: I didn't play Tekken because of its rage-inducing tactics from gameplay.
With Jin, I struggle the most with nimble characters like Nina.
I react to Jin’s hellsweep all the time🫡
wait you didn't know jin's df2 hold df 2 is an electric every time
@@Sukarettoroz when you don't know it's useless because you can jab interrupt the electric after the DF2....
He was talking about Heihachi's free electric, he didn't know about that
@@KETAN990 my bad
He is not wrong though
I must be really bad cause my jin is stuck mighty ruler and i mained him first 😅 while my kaz is fujin and reina hit bushin
MMS: he said it's not me, I'm innocent
Comment section: but you were thinking about it, and that's all that matters, HOW DARE YOU THINK THOSE THOUGHTS
saying jin’s hellsweep isnt reactable is just misinformation.
me n all my friends take it on reaction like 70% of the time.
jin is still a pain to play against tho, easy top 5 character either way.
Yeah, I think for some reason he doesn't know that 20 frames aren't 20 frames across the board. 2 attacks with 20 frames can be completly different in terms of reactiability. Startup distinction and sound cue are what's important. You can have a attack with 50 frames being unreactable if for the first 40 frames there is no visible animation.... Frames dont really mean that much
@@hubachecka yep, jin hellsweep and jin db4 are both i20.
but hellsweep is easier to block than db4.
@@Ace-tq9kr Other way round for me. I've been able to react to db4 once in a while and that was on PS4 T7 online but never hellsweep. Someone I play offline on T8 though will block Jin's hellsweep over 90% of the time but not db4 that reliably. D2 is useless against him.
for the love of me i can't play jin. i can play freaking Brian, drag, feng, DJ, Hachi, .....but i get stumped when i am on JIn idk why..
Because unlike all those characters, Jin lacks on fast mid moves that are plus frames on block, and the second thing is that people got so traumatized of Jin being extremely op that there are TH-cam videos, and comments sections that tell other players how to beat Jin. So in total a huge amount of players already labed Jin, and a huge amount knows what’s coming. I mean the character is strong but calling it broken or op is just a fallacy.
@@sweetpeaakay Jin lacks fast mid moves that are plus on block ? which Tekken are you talking about? coz it def not T8.
@@sweetpeaakay lol just bc u labbed the char doesn´t mean u won´t get cooked online......... especially when facing a good player. You can´t just auto win just bc you know the matchup otherwise Knee would never ever lose a tourney at all and ppl at god ranks wouldn´t have the need to complain so ur point is laughable
rip headphone users
i play Kazuya and tekken 8 is my first fighting game ever. I'm now stuck at Fujin because of these spam characters, i hate them i really hate them. My head is gona burst
Tmms Why don't you participate in world championships?
More hwoarang pls
boy why do you look and sound like cody ko
Jin needs to be broken because I suck at the game and need easy wins.
is yoshimitsu still trash ?
Jin mains losing their mind is so funny like bro its a video game
Jinn has no lows...my ass
He has lows, they’re just pretty ass in comparison to other characters
@@RealAstroWhaleThe downplay 💀
@@RealAstroWhale man i hate that my boii is being played by crybabies like you
He is in on it. The jin revolution has to start.
Jin mains need to try out Heihachi to see "no lows" gameplay. Not saying Heihachi is weak, but Jin is privileged by design
Or Reina
Play ufc 5
Jin isn't hard at all. I'm not a Mishima player at all and never played them before, picked up Jin on a dare and within 3 days I was already in purple ranks. Jin is bullshit
>purple ranks
LMAO
@zesork5627 yeah I gave up cuz it was boring and quit there. Also who gives a shit if I'm not Arslan Ash GoD rank sweaty no lifer? Tekken is boring, I play games that I like.
@@bandawin18 And yet you're here, watching videos and commenting about the game.
@zesork5627 first one I've seen on this channel in a long time. The game is boring as fuck to play but mildly interesting to watch. God you sweaty nerds are so obnoxious
@@bandawin18 maybe don't pass off an opinion on the game like you know what you are talking about if you don't even like the game dumbass
Woah
🗿
Jins hellsweep is REACTABLE due to the animation. Just not consistently
Imma need some of whatever it is you're smoking cause that is some high quality stuff. Gimme 4 bags.
"its reactable just not consistently"
So it's not
@@sibusisolanga663 Arslan ash literally agrees in his tierlist. jins weakness is the reactablity of his lows.
If you are focused with no mental stack. You can in fact react to hellweep . Phidx also made a video about it
@@Chaoblahippo too bad Jin had such a hard time applying mental stack Ahahahahahahahahahahaaha 😄
I hate so much Jin in that game :p what they do to him its a massacre like pissing on the joconde ... what a waste of masterpiece character
Bad reaction video
Now, I’m not a Jin downplayer...😂
But I have seen people do drills to react to Jin’s hellsweep.
Yes it’s i20, but he doesn’t have any other move that has the same startup animation.
PhiDX has a video with this in it and I mean 99.99% percent of players can’t do it. If they can they gotta be really prepared
Yea this video was cringey af
IM HEI’s LEF NUT IM FAMOUS
I had to return to check if I liked the video. Fun stuff right here. I can’t even tell what TMM is going through when Jin mains say: “He has no lows.”
Bros he downplaying a character that isn’t ‘broken’, but definitely has a power crush-CRUSHER and a non-steppable electric. It’s not that Jin’s low can’t be reacted to, it’s just that there is a fine line between ‘reading’ and ‘reacting’.
To react to Jin’s low, you have to look for the body twist, not for the body lighting up or scream. It’s sensory confusion that Victor’s power crush once had (it’d already hit you by the time you noticed the power crush effect, so they fixed it by adding that effect AS SOON AS YOU START).
Basically, if they add the electricity effect as soon as the low is being executed, then it’d work. It’s readable but not REACTABLE right now.
U literally can react to it, it’s the most distinct animation Jin has, almost everyone past kishin blocks every single d2 and d4 it’s not even funny, he has no lows except d4
Play Steve
DB4??????? with counter hit properties?
D4 is also one of the best lows tracking 16f absurd range and -12
db4 isn’t too bad either
@@yungmaui4876db4 is so slow, ain't no way you're hitting someone with that
Jin is easily one of the silliest characters in the game without a doubt. Too much for too little and its not even that tough. You dont even need to do perfect electric to play him properly.
dudes annoying af lol
I also think Jin's hell sweep is reactable, it's slow compared to devil jin and Kazuya's hell sweep and mainly because Jin hell sweep's start up is different and slower. He goes from crouch dash to slow standing (position) movement to mid curved (bending) position and does low round kick. While DJin and Kazuya remain in their crouch dash ducking position and spin the kick very fast. So specially with mixups both kazuya and Djin have very annoying hell sweeps while i can spot Jin because as i said above he goes into slight standing position after CD and bends a little and does low round kick instead of being in ducking position after CD and doing spin kick like djin and kazuya do.
I am not saying that i can block it 10 out of 10 times but yeah i can do that 8/10 times if not 9/10 compared to DJin and Kazuya's hell sweeps which are 50-50 for me.
But who in their right mind say that Jin has no lows? D+2, d+4 and both are faster than his hell sweep. Db+4 is also good.
Tmm and his hate for jin a never ending love story . I know jin is cheap . But he really doesn't deserve the hate he gets when characters like alisa , Victor , yoshi, drag , feng, zafina, xiayou, hwoarang exist in the game .
We will just have to equally hate all of them.
Fax but I don't see what howaorang sees in him! And that makes me hate him! Tmms lore btw
@@calamityCanon you have a crush on hworang 🤨
sounds like something a jin main would say
He doesn’t hate Jin. He hates how character is balanced, and you Jin mains can’t see the difference
Old man tmm as usual. Yapping instead of watching the vid
I ain’t no tmm defender but it’s a reaction vid tf else he gonna do
@@zacharyjohnson9562 watch the actual reaction vid instead of bitching ?
Go watch the original video if you don’t want to hear his reaction bruh
@@bonfist7277 bruh, i want to hear his reaction. I'm talking about him talking with the chat and not watching for like 70% of the video. It wasn't even an offensive comment why y'all so hurt by it?
@@LogariusKay I think you forget that he's a streamer?? That's literally like.....his Job to look and talk to chat.....and he gets paid for it..........🤷♂️
I have a guy at my locals who say his lows are bad
it is probably his biggest weakness, d4 does like no damage, d2 offline is react-able, hellsweep is good but it doesn’t net as much of a reward as most of the other mishima’s(looking at you reina). He’s got options but each of them has a defined weakness
@@fresh9530you got to be kidding me
@@nayd5043 no he's right. At high level it gets really clear how bad his lows are. D2 gets almost always blocked and even parried, you'd be suprised. He has the worst hellsweep out of all Mishimas. Db4 is "good" d4 is decent but it lacks in damage.
I believe even Arslan Ash said that Jins lows are his only weakpoint
@@nayd5043 bro I can't believe these Jin glazers are really out here 💀
@@ratfink2079 you sound like a bot
Oh shit number 1 jin hater uploaded again
11:04 "Super nice gameplay this is really impressive"
So much hate I can't.
@@jamieallover1587Deserved
watch phi dx's reaction training. you can react to jin's hellsweep. it's very difficult but you have to watch the shoulder movement. He does the drill of 5 different moves including ff3 and d2 and he blocks the hellsweep on reaction most times. In a real match it's very hard even at pro level but saying it's not doable is wrong
You can’t react to it. Doing training and actually playing a match are two different things.
Yeah. I watched it just now. First, he’s in training mode. Second, even in training mode, he proceeds to get hit by every single Jin Hellsweep!! 🤣🤣🤣. You can’t make this up!! Ahahaha. He’s not even in a real match and he’s getting hit by it every time. Give me a break. Lmao. Nobody is reacting to this unless it’s a hard read. He’s giving some pro players too much credit, saying they are reacting when they are making hard reads.
@@funkrates4778 you don't have to babyrage and lie just when something proves your view demonstrably false
@Steponmeplease-gy8es barely reactable is reactable. Barely reactable is not not reactable
Its 20 frames ur not reacting to that ever. Especially online where theres always gonna be delay
As a Jin main I can confidently day he's brain dead easy to use, but 95% of the playerbase know his entire moveset so he's not easy to play, hope this helps
you're not playing him well enough then, hope it helps with your rank
Jin players are the ultimate scrubs
And when you realize they think they are genuinely good at tekken because they beat other players using their "Little Brother-mode" character 😂
8:00 d'aaaaw ! I very often have fun with other players, doing stance dances, twerking with Reina etc
Twerking with Reina?
This dude is always crying about Jin.
That video was terrible
Dear TMM jin, kazuya hellsweep are reactable. No animosity but bro.. its reactable
i agree with jin offline but kazuya is crazy
@@gabereellTbf he has an animation of twisting his spine which can make it so