I'm getting my stuffs around for 311299 gc bullets with this approximate charge of powder such that I can make alot of this kind of round. So yea stay tuned. I really only used these bullets because I had them from way back and didn't spend any current money on them.
@@simplydesaninitaly1644 My goal is to shoot as heavy of a lead powder coated bullet with no gas check as possible at right around 1080 feet per second so as to have a slight barrier between the round and the speed of sound. I have discovered that with my Q Full Nelson suppressor and a 70 degree locking piece I can use the lyman 311299 lubrisized and gas checked bullet sized to .309 with pretty much any large sized primers (pistol or rifle) with about 7.7 grains of TiteGroup will accommodate me nicely. The finished bullet weight is showing a wide variation in weight but averages about 210-211 grains of weight. Now I don't assume any liability for anybody but myself of course but this smacks a man sized torso and head shaped steel plate every time I pull the trigger. Any more questions just ask away please.
@@potymouf1 I think 70 Degrees is a #20. If you don't mind me asking I'm probably going to go down the same rabbit hole you're with suppressing the G3 platform. Why would a 70deg locking piece be preferred over a smaller angle like a stand 45 deg or a #17 which is a 36 deg. Would a 70 deg locking peice offer less resistance to allow the subsonic rounds to feed correctly?
The higher degree number the locker the more recoil inertia/energy is put to the bolt assembly and less into the receiver assembly. So a 10 degree puts almost all energy from the firing event into the receiver via the trunnion and a 90 degree locker puts most of the energy into the bolt and not the receiver. I can only get at 70 degree locker, no higher because the higher lockers are for mp5's and are not close enough of a picture in design to make me spend the money on one to see if it'll work. I know these are essentially gallery loads/anemic so I just bought the highest one figuring it'll work and it does, with the right load, but doesn't cycle the weapon without my suppressor on it. The suppressor I have is a Q branded Full Nelson.
@@potymouf1 I see so your using the 70 Deg locking piece to offer less resistance for the rounds to cycle. All of the stuff I have read into have people using the 36 degrees locking pieces because the overpressure in the system causes roller dent when suppressed using full powered loads. I'm looking into getting my first suppressor. I figured using a 36 Deg locking piece with a flow through suppressor should mitigate the pressure issues but I'm trying to nail a way to quiet the loads as well
My load that works (not liable for anything someone else does) is 7.7 grains of Hogdons TiteGroup with a cast bullet lubricated and sized to .309 inch from an old lyman 311299 bullet mold with a gascheck and mostly beeswax lube that was throwing bullets about 211 grains finished weight along with any large primer PISTOL OR RIFLE magnum or non magnum
Hello, I suggest loading the cartridges very lightly and removing the rolls, that's how it worked for HK. greetings from Germany
Heaviest bullet you can run for back pressure to cycle.,even lead bullets.
I'm getting my stuffs around for 311299 gc bullets with this approximate charge of powder such that I can make alot of this kind of round. So yea stay tuned. I really only used these bullets because I had them from way back and didn't spend any current money on them.
@potymourf what powder load? Type and grains for lead subsonic rounds.
What velocity?
@@simplydesaninitaly1644 My goal is to shoot as heavy of a lead powder coated bullet with no gas check as possible at right around 1080 feet per second so as to have a slight barrier between the round and the speed of sound. I have discovered that with my Q Full Nelson suppressor and a 70 degree locking piece I can use the lyman 311299 lubrisized and gas checked bullet sized to .309 with pretty much any large sized primers (pistol or rifle) with about 7.7 grains of TiteGroup will accommodate me nicely. The finished bullet weight is showing a wide variation in weight but averages about 210-211 grains of weight. Now I don't assume any liability for anybody but myself of course but this smacks a man sized torso and head shaped steel plate every time I pull the trigger. Any more questions just ask away please.
Does this have a #17 locking piece?
I don't know the numbering system but it is a 70 degree angle
@@potymouf1 I think 70 Degrees is a #20. If you don't mind me asking I'm probably going to go down the same rabbit hole you're with suppressing the G3 platform. Why would a 70deg locking piece be preferred over a smaller angle like a stand 45 deg or a #17 which is a 36 deg. Would a 70 deg locking peice offer less resistance to allow the subsonic rounds to feed correctly?
The higher degree number the locker the more recoil inertia/energy is put to the bolt assembly and less into the receiver assembly. So a 10 degree puts almost all energy from the firing event into the receiver via the trunnion and a 90 degree locker puts most of the energy into the bolt and not the receiver. I can only get at 70 degree locker, no higher because the higher lockers are for mp5's and are not close enough of a picture in design to make me spend the money on one to see if it'll work. I know these are essentially gallery loads/anemic so I just bought the highest one figuring it'll work and it does, with the right load, but doesn't cycle the weapon without my suppressor on it. The suppressor I have is a Q branded Full Nelson.
@@potymouf1 I see so your using the 70 Deg locking piece to offer less resistance for the rounds to cycle. All of the stuff I have read into have people using the 36 degrees locking pieces because the overpressure in the system causes roller dent when suppressed using full powered loads. I'm looking into getting my first suppressor. I figured using a 36 Deg locking piece with a flow through suppressor should mitigate the pressure issues but I'm trying to nail a way to quiet the loads as well
My load that works (not liable for anything someone else does) is 7.7 grains of Hogdons TiteGroup with a cast bullet lubricated and sized to .309 inch from an old lyman 311299 bullet mold with a gascheck and mostly beeswax lube that was throwing bullets about 211 grains finished weight along with any large primer PISTOL OR RIFLE magnum or non magnum