Nice video and coverage on the differences. I’m still a fan of Marantz. Really like their sound. Use them for both home theater and 2 channel music. Both are great.
Great video and very informative. I would like to clarify some of your information. The processing information is not including the subwoofer channels. So for example, the 7015 has 9 amplifier channels but will process 11.2 channels of information with the inclusion of an outboard stereo amplifier. Which allows for a 7.2.4 without the outboard amplifier you can only connect via the speaker terminals a 5.2.4 or 7.2.2. The SR8015 is an 11.2 receiver but can do 13.2 processing with an outboard amplifier. Again the SR6015 is a 11.2 receiver but only has 9 amplified channels. You kinda of mention it later in the video but the charts are confusing. I think you should list the number of powered channels and the number of processed channel with an outboard amplifier. Again very informative video.
I appreciate you taking the time to provide those corrections. I will review but there is a good chance you are right. I can already see one point where I was clearly wrong. I keep evolving how I represent these processors and receivers. I believe the format I used on my latest JBL Sythesis post does a better job. What I do now is have four colors to represents the channels in the graphical depiction - 1) grey = fixed channel pre-out only 2) blue = configurable pre-out only 3) orange = fixed amplified output 4) red = configurable amplified output By “configurable” I mean it’s use is optional e.g. to configure the output for front wide or height channels - either/or but not both. To get the data right I use to populate those graphics and tables I will need to study the manufacturer’s resources more carefully. One confirmed I will report back.-Jon
Great video but I believe you made a mistake at 31:51 in regards to the "Fix #2" HDMI 2.1 "A" board upgrade option, that is strictly for the 2018 Marantz AV8805 owners to purchase the "A" 2.1 board upgrade & is not an option for the earlier 2020 affected models, if owners are affected by the botched HDMI 2.1 board their only option is to order the free clunky inelegant HDMI 2.1 SPK618 adapter box or simply return the unit for one manufactured after May 2021 with an inferior DAC solution, both options aren't ideal but it is what it is ;)
You got three things wrong re x3700h and the SR6015. They DO support IMAX Enhanced, HLG and Rec. 2020. I put in Jumanji and tithe IMAX Enhanced showed up on the display. But WOW, great job. You are THOROUGH
@@ripewave you do a GREAT job. I was going to buy a Denon but since you find out that only the Marantz AVRs (with serial numbers above 70,000) got to keep the superior AKM4458 DACs I bought a Marantz. I initially bought a Denon but didn’t like how it sounded. Your video explained why their sound is inferior now (they now use the PCM1502a DACs). Thanks for your service!!!
@@ripewave I just found another error. I saw the inside of last year's x3700h. it had a 24bit AK5358a. Since the SR6015 is comparable to the x3700h, are you sure the SR6015 had an AK4458?
Great info! What I’m noticing unless I missed it I don’t see RS232 connections listed on any of your charts. I have control4 and that is important because everything doesn’t always work properly with IP control.
Michael - I have similar concerns. No question the units are feature rich and with the financial muscle of Sound United they can afford to give the software proper attention. I do feel that the Marantz sound quality is good, but not as good as others - Anthen, Emotiva and others. Why Marantz and Denon hang on to Audyssey is a bit of a mystery. I suspect favorable licensing arrangement could be directing them. I have heard that enhancements to Audyssey are coming. If that comes true and they can equal and better Dirac they will win that round as then they will have a differentiated offer not a me too.-Jon
I wonder if they will take design queues from the new Model 30 integrated amplifier? That design appears to have more of a metal mic finish with more interest by applying a second background layer to the front panel. Still a porthole, but the use of multiple solid knobs brings back the 70s classic look in a modernized way.
Just bought the new Marantz Model 30 two-Chanel integrated amplifier, got rid of my Marantz SR7012 AVR and surround speakers. I'm so done with multichannel home theatre, Audyssey, and multi-layered functions... It's just 2-chanel musical bliss from now on streamed from a PC using Dirac Live and Tidal. - But that's just me. Found out that I never really cared that much about movies. Just got hooked on acquiring the gear.
Stripping down to focus on stereo playback with a high quality integrated amp like the model 30 will/should result in a more revealing experience - while dispensing of the immersive experience which isn’t for everyone. What remains is truer to the source and you will have a better sense of how the music was intended. -Jon
@@ripewave Yes, this has been my experience for sure! - Although the Marantz AVR was pretty good with music, the Model 30 is waaaay better! - I wouldn't of believed it until I heard it. :)
I am looking for opinions and experience, feedback on the audio quality differences between prepro such as the AV7706, 8802/8802a and 8805/8805a. Currently have an AV7005 which sounds good but is starting to become lacking in flexibility.
I would like to try those speaker options. I may need the help of God to move pipes running through the middle of my theater just under the ceiling to put a Top Center center in place. The ceiling is already low so mounting externally isn’t ideal either. The good news is that I am wired for front wide speakers. I just need an amplifier to drive - one more XPA-DR-2 would be nice. Have you already been running that configuration? -Jon
Marius - I am not aware of what Sony has planned next. Their releases have been less predictable than other brands as they are currently more focused on gaming, photography and TV markets. Occasionally they launch a home audio product to address a need - blu ray player, headphones and even a receiver. They seem less interested in being first to market with new receiver features like 8k capability, but I suspect will launch once the adoption curve is further along.-Jon
Why is 8K such a big deal? There is no native 8K material out there yet. Big hoopla over nothing - 4K/120 Hz makes sense - for gamers. Most 4K movies are 60 FPS as well - a waste of money in my opinion until both native data and 8K players are commonplace.
That is a fair comment. It will be interesting to see how the future plays out. I was unsure about 4K until it became more mainstream with content - now I can’t look back. Will I feel the same in a few years about 8K or have we reached the point of diminishing returns? I am optimistic that I will notice the improvement in picture experience between 4K and 8K and I believe the content will become more common - but maybe it takes more than three years to be as common as 4K sources today. -Jon
@@ripewave Thanks Jon. Not trying to be a downer on this, but I'm realistic as to what's out there, and even if a new 8K players arrived, would I jump on it until many more movies are available? I think even you would wait and see. Thanks again brother!
@@Audiomainia2310 I have listened to this same spill every since 480p, and that was only 20 years ago, when folks where on vhs, and swore DVD's was just a fad, and made no since to buy a progressive scan tv. Same for CD's. same for 1080p, and on an on an on. 8K is will be the standard in less than 10 years for consumed media period
Where did you get these channel numbers from? they're almost all completely wrong. The X6700 and SR8015 do not process 15 channels, neither do the 8500 or AV8805A. They're 13 channels. The AV7706 does 11 channels, not 13. The Denon A1H does 15 channels.
@@CaseTheCorvetteMan actually it does, you evidently did not understand the chart. The count is referring to the pre-out count in other words the processing channels, not amplifier channels. I tried to link the marantz manual with the back of sr7015 which I own. It has 11 channels of processing. But I guess youtube did not like that so I replied again to you.
@@bumpsy2358 I understand it, it is wrong in a number of spots. HDMI input numbers are wrong on a few too, or maybe i'm not comprehending it??? Hahaha!!! I have a Denon X6700, it has 13 channels, not the 15 he claims here.
This all gets very confusing as brands represent counts differently - sometimes they even state one thing on their web site and another in the manual. That does not mean the counts are wrong, you just need to understand how they are counting. I am trying to normalize to one methodology. I count channels of processing as the main count. Subwoofers count only 1 unless they are independent outputs. -Jon
I am just getting to review the SR8015 again regarding the tuner. According to the Marantz website it does and I do see the rear connections for both a FM and AM antenna.-Jon
Nice video and coverage on the differences. I’m still a fan of Marantz. Really like their sound. Use them for both home theater and 2 channel music. Both are great.
Great video and very informative. I would like to clarify some of your information. The processing information is not including the subwoofer channels. So for example, the 7015 has 9 amplifier channels but will process 11.2 channels of information with the inclusion of an outboard stereo amplifier. Which allows for a 7.2.4 without the outboard amplifier you can only connect via the speaker terminals a 5.2.4 or 7.2.2. The SR8015 is an 11.2 receiver but can do 13.2 processing with an outboard amplifier. Again the SR6015 is a 11.2 receiver but only has 9 amplified channels. You kinda of mention it later in the video but the charts are confusing. I think you should list the number of powered channels and the number of processed channel with an outboard amplifier. Again very informative video.
I appreciate you taking the time to provide those corrections. I will review but there is a good chance you are right. I can already see one point where I was clearly wrong.
I keep evolving how I represent these processors and receivers. I believe the format I used on my latest JBL Sythesis post does a better job.
What I do now is have four colors to represents the channels in the graphical depiction -
1) grey = fixed channel pre-out only
2) blue = configurable pre-out only
3) orange = fixed amplified output
4) red = configurable amplified output
By “configurable” I mean it’s use is optional e.g. to configure the output for front wide or height channels - either/or but not both.
To get the data right I use to populate those graphics and tables I will need to study the manufacturer’s resources more carefully. One confirmed I will report back.-Jon
Great comparison! Thank you
Glad you enjoyed the content. -Jon
I really wish I would have bought a x6700h instead of the x4700h before the price increases happened, these prices are absurd in my opinion.
I suspect some brands are taking advantage of market conditions as an opportunity to increase margins.-Jon
@@ripewave me too
@@Edward135i Mee Threee!
Marantz!👍👌
Glad you appreciated the content. This was one I was excited about compiling.-Jon
IMax Enhanced is also on the SR6015.
Great video but I believe you made a mistake at 31:51 in regards to the "Fix #2" HDMI 2.1 "A" board upgrade option, that is strictly for the 2018 Marantz AV8805 owners to purchase the "A" 2.1 board upgrade & is not an option for the earlier 2020 affected models, if owners are affected by the botched HDMI 2.1 board their only option is to order the free clunky inelegant HDMI 2.1 SPK618 adapter box or simply return the unit for one manufactured after May 2021 with an inferior DAC solution, both options aren't ideal but it is what it is ;)
precision - is everything !
Given the DAC change in the newer production models I might prefer the external adaptor box.-Jon
You got three things wrong re x3700h and the SR6015. They DO support IMAX Enhanced, HLG and Rec. 2020. I put in Jumanji and tithe IMAX Enhanced showed up on the display. But WOW, great job. You are THOROUGH
Thanks for bringing those misses to the surface. I try hard not to have such errors. I will be sure correct my notes for the next round.-Jon
@@ripewave you do a GREAT job. I was going to buy a Denon but since you find out that only the Marantz AVRs (with serial numbers above 70,000) got to keep the superior AKM4458 DACs I bought a Marantz. I initially bought a Denon but didn’t like how it sounded. Your video explained why their sound is inferior now (they now use the PCM1502a DACs). Thanks for your service!!!
Thanks for the feedback on the sound quality. It appears that such differences due impact the overall output quality.-Jon
@@ripewave I just found another error. I saw the inside of last year's x3700h. it had a 24bit AK5358a. Since the SR6015 is comparable to the x3700h, are you sure the SR6015 had an AK4458?
Great info! What I’m noticing unless I missed it I don’t see RS232 connections listed on any of your charts. I have control4 and that is important because everything doesn’t always work properly with IP control.
Marantz is tempting because of their lack of bugs. However everyone says they don't sound good and audyssey is crap. Curious to get thoughts on this?
Michael - I have similar concerns. No question the units are feature rich and with the financial muscle of Sound United they can afford to give the software proper attention. I do feel that the Marantz sound quality is good, but not as good as others - Anthen, Emotiva and others. Why Marantz and Denon hang on to Audyssey is a bit of a mystery. I suspect favorable licensing arrangement could be directing them. I have heard that enhancements to Audyssey are coming. If that comes true and they can equal and better Dirac they will win that round as then they will have a differentiated offer not a me too.-Jon
Marantz and Denon are way over due for a redesign…..facelift.
I wonder if they will take design queues from the new Model 30 integrated amplifier? That design appears to have more of a metal mic finish with more interest by applying a second background layer to the front panel. Still a porthole, but the use of multiple solid knobs brings back the 70s classic look in a modernized way.
Just bought the new Marantz Model 30 two-Chanel integrated amplifier, got rid of my Marantz SR7012 AVR and surround speakers. I'm so done with multichannel home theatre, Audyssey, and multi-layered functions... It's just 2-chanel musical bliss from now on streamed from a PC using Dirac Live and Tidal. - But that's just me. Found out that I never really cared that much about movies. Just got hooked on acquiring the gear.
Stripping down to focus on stereo playback with a high quality integrated amp like the model 30 will/should result in a more revealing experience - while dispensing of the immersive experience which isn’t for everyone. What remains is truer to the source and you will have a better sense of how the music was intended. -Jon
@@ripewave Yes, this has been my experience for sure! - Although the Marantz AVR was pretty good with music, the Model 30 is waaaay better! - I wouldn't of believed it until I heard it. :)
Great job here! 👏🏼👏🏼
Thanks for the encouragement.-Jon
Very helpful vedio. Many Thanks
Glad you found the content useful -Jon
I am looking for opinions and experience, feedback on the audio quality differences between prepro such as the AV7706, 8802/8802a and 8805/8805a. Currently have an AV7005 which sounds good but is starting to become lacking in flexibility.
When running Audyssey Deos that change the warmth of marantz sound to say like denon ect
Thank you so much
I am glad the video was useful to you.-Jon
Want the Voice of God! 9 front speakers is the ultimate Reference model!
I would like to try those speaker options. I may need the help of God to move pipes running through the middle of my theater just under the ceiling to put a Top Center center in place. The ceiling is already low so mounting externally isn’t ideal either. The good news is that I am wired for front wide speakers. I just need an amplifier to drive - one more XPA-DR-2 would be nice. Have you already been running that configuration? -Jon
Random question: Do you know if Sony is coming out with a new receiver lineup soon? Thank you
Marius - I am not aware of what Sony has planned next. Their releases have been less predictable than other brands as they are currently more focused on gaming, photography and TV markets. Occasionally they launch a home audio product to address a need - blu ray player, headphones and even a receiver. They seem less interested in being first to market with new receiver features like 8k capability, but I suspect will launch once the adoption curve is further along.-Jon
@@ripewave Thank you very much for your message.
Please do the 22-23 models
They are coming - just two more amplifier videos and on to receivers and processors starting with Denon / Marantz.-Jon
Thanks 😊! I bought the RZ-50 because of u
Why is 8K such a big deal? There is no native 8K material out there yet. Big hoopla over nothing - 4K/120 Hz makes sense - for gamers. Most 4K movies are 60 FPS as well - a waste of money in my opinion until both native data and 8K players are commonplace.
That is a fair comment. It will be interesting to see how the future plays out. I was unsure about 4K until it became more mainstream with content - now I can’t look back. Will I feel the same in a few years about 8K or have we reached the point of diminishing returns? I am optimistic that I will notice the improvement in picture experience between 4K and 8K and I believe the content will become more common - but maybe it takes more than three years to be as common as 4K sources today. -Jon
@@ripewave Thanks Jon. Not trying to be a downer on this, but I'm realistic as to what's out there, and even if a new 8K players arrived, would I jump on it until many more movies are available? I think even you would wait and see. Thanks again brother!
No doubt that if they do come it will be a slow process. Years
@@Audiomainia2310 I have listened to this same spill every since 480p, and that was only 20 years ago, when folks where on vhs, and swore DVD's was just a fad, and made no since to buy a progressive scan tv. Same for CD's. same for 1080p, and on an on an on. 8K is will be the standard in less than 10 years for consumed media period
Where did you get these channel numbers from? they're almost all completely wrong. The X6700 and SR8015 do not process 15 channels, neither do the 8500 or AV8805A. They're 13 channels. The AV7706 does 11 channels, not 13. The Denon A1H does 15 channels.
Subwoofer channels . 11.2 =13 channels 9.2=11 channels as in channels of processing
@@bumpsy2358 yeah i know what channels they have, and i know what 11.2 and 9.2 mean, it has nothing to do with subwoofer outputs.
@@CaseTheCorvetteMan actually it does, you evidently did not understand the chart. The count is referring to the pre-out count in other words the processing channels, not amplifier channels. I tried to link the marantz manual with the back of sr7015 which I own. It has 11 channels of processing. But I guess youtube did not like that so I replied again to you.
@@bumpsy2358 I understand it, it is wrong in a number of spots.
HDMI input numbers are wrong on a few too, or maybe i'm not comprehending it??? Hahaha!!!
I have a Denon X6700, it has 13 channels, not the 15 he claims here.
This all gets very confusing as brands represent counts differently - sometimes they even state one thing on their web site and another in the manual. That does not mean the counts are wrong, you just need to understand how they are counting. I am trying to normalize to one methodology. I count channels of processing as the main count. Subwoofers count only 1 unless they are independent outputs. -Jon
SR8015 doesn't have a tuner also.
I am just getting to review the SR8015 again regarding the tuner. According to the Marantz website it does and I do see the rear connections for both a FM and AM antenna.-Jon