Regency Story Time: Eliza, Comtesse de Feuillide's Exciting Life | Jane Austen's Cousin
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- Did you know that Jane Austen had a cousin who went to balls with Marie Antoinette, survived the French Revolution and adopted pug dogs? Well, in this Regency Era story time, we examine the life of Eliza Hancock, also known as the Comtesse de Feuillide. Her story takes us from glittering parties to rural family theatricals and has tons of drama in between. Learn all about it in this video focused on Jane Austen's fascinating first cousin, Eliza.
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🕰 Watching Guide
00:00 Regency Story Time: Eliza, Jane Austen’s First Cousin [intro]
01:11 Who was Eliza Hancock? Jane Austen’s Family
01:35 Traveling to the continent
02:25 Life in Paris (Balls and Versailles!)
05:32 Reason to get married
09:48 Motherhood
10:50 Visiting Jane Austen’s family - Mansfield Park Inspiration?
12:01 Hard Times in the French Revolution
13::12 What she thought of Jane
13:58 Is Eliza the inspiration for Lady Susan?
15:14 Henry’s tall
15:50 The fate of to Jean François Capot de Feuillide
17:25 Marriage is overrated, Pug Dogs are Not
19:32 Money is Necessary
20:28 How Inaccurate Becoming Jane Is
21:42 Napoleon Ruins Everything & Pretending to be French
23:28 Banker’s Wife in London and Pride and Prejudice
24:06 Death
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This story needs to be a BBC miniseries.
Agreed!!!
Philadelphia and Eliza's story is 100% great material for telenovelas.
They need to made into movies or something!
@@EllieDashwood A full series!!! 😄
That'll be great to watch
Venía a comentar lo mismo, pero me ganaste 😅😅😅😅😊😊
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The "escape from France with a friend who does not speak French" part is thrilling!! They should totally make it a movie : )
Right!! We definitely need a movie!
@@EllieDashwood I found that bit really interesting, because the story is in the Austen-Leigh biography (but starring Henry instead of Mrs Merriot, I think?) I'd wondered if it was too far fetched to be true - thank you for confirming it!
😏 Read The Scarlet Pimpernel. Lol.
I would love to see a BBC series about Eliza, Philadelphia, and the Count. They would make a very fascinating miniseries.
They so would!!!
AND Eliza’s godfather!
I love the letters of young Eliza, they are fun to read (and more enjoyable in the way you read them). I’ll start to use the “I don’t think i am very likely to lose either my gaiety or peace of mind for any male creature breathing” sentence whenever someone ask me if i am dating someone, and specifically the “male creature breathing” part for plenty of situations. I would have loved to know her!
What a fascinating life. I would have loved to meet the Comtesse de Feuillide. Even if her title was false, I could probably see myself willfully ignoring it just because she was so charming.
Same! She sounds so cool!
I love Eliza! She absolutely was the typical rich cousin we all aspire to be
The entire film "becoming Jane " has a lot to answer for, not only the way Eliza was depicted but also Jane herself.
Maybe but how important is it next to how hot James McAvoy is in it ?
Agreed, Becoming Jane is SO off! 🤦🏻♀️ But had some good casting. 😂
@@EllieDashwood I didn't really take it as a real biopic anyway. It was more "what if Jane Austen had almost been the heroin of one of her novels ?"
@@EllieDashwood It would be so great if you did a video about the movie, or at least about what is known about Mr. Lefroy.
@@EllieDashwood Could you do a video on discussing the film "Be coming Jane, please Ellie? "
Philadelphia, Hastings... these people got their baby names from an atlas, eh? Next up in the series, Jane Austen's nephew, Kalamazoo Austen.
😂😂😂
Bs of these videos now I want some sushi so badly 😢
And Kalamazoo's children, Istanbul and Palm Beach.
Wow! What a crazy and remarkable life! Sad she died at only 50 (although at the time it wouldn’t have been unusual) - but she certainly packed it in! One thing that always makes interesting historical stories more fun - their being true stories. Thanks for another fun and interesting video! ✨
Yay! I’m glad you enjoyed it. And her life was so crazy!
This whole story should be a movie.
I totally agree!
I can see bits and pieces of Eliza’s story in all of JA’s stories.
“Jean-Francois Capot de Feuillide” gives vibes of “Oratrice Mecanique d’Analyse Cardinale”
What a great story! I love how you tell the stories of both women. Managing what they did in times very tough for women. Eliza especially must have been incredibly charismatic.
Definitely! The both overcame so many things!
I'm wondering now if she's Elizabeth Bennet's namesake. The way she went by Betsy when she was young and Eliza when she was older, the way only Elizabeth's family call her Lizzie and to everyone else she's Eliza...
Love this video, I was actually thinking of Mary Crawford from Mansfield Park when hearing about Eliza not wanting to marry Henry due to him wanting to be a country parson. I don't feel like Eliza really fits the bill for any of Austen's characters as a whole though. She could have her own bbc series as someone mentioned just since her actual life was very interesting and drama filled.
That’s such an intriguing comparison to Mary Crawford! No parsons for them. 😂 And yes, the BBC needs to get on this!
If I had scrolled a little farther before I commented the same thing, I would have seen this, lol. Great minds think alike. 😂
@@FranciscanGypsy They certainly do 🤣. I totally thought maybe it was just me thinking this so I'm glad I'm not alone.
I too, was thinking the same thing about Mary Crawford in Mansfield Park.
I thought this too! I just finished Mansfield Park and Eliza seems to have an essence of Mary Crawford. What's interesting is that Jane Austen herself would be more in the position of one of the sisters, Maria or Julia, rather than protagonist Fanny Price. It's very interesting as a perspective change and I like the idea of her imagining up people and being inspired by small details instead of copying full scenes from life~
There's a hilarious book by a Nicholas Ennos contending that Jane Austen's novels were actually written by Eliza. I don't buy it, especially since he also believes the moon landings were faked, but it was amusing.
😂 That’s so funny,
I remember every video of Austen I clicked he was there. It was so funny seeing how he was in despair to someone to give him attention
@Jonathan Parks Her *supposed* death!!! Dum-dum-DUM!!!!
Ooh la la I loved this one! And yes! A movie! about Eliza's amazing life, complete with JANE AUSTEN as the costar!
That would be so cool! They need to make this Eliza/Jane movie!
All the while I was looking forward to you mentioning the portrayal of Eliza in Becoming Jane... It was in its day unforgettable to me, and I found Lucy Cohu so beautiful in the role. I'm surprised it's possible to be left with an impression of her as "washed out" in that movie. She was anything but! Jane (and by extension, the audience) seems to look up to the glamour, wordliness and sensuality of her older cousin, who talks about Marie Antoinette, wears French fashion (which is old, but doesn't seem old on her), impresses people with her title (to the point it almost gains Jane a marriage), and gets doted on by Henry.
I didn't get the impression at all that the romance with Henry was one-sided. Yes, money played a part, so their marriage was "sensible" in that way, but you clearly got the impression they also loved each other (and the actor who played Henry.. gaaaaahd). I even felt their relationship was set up as a contrast to Jane and Tom Lefroy's, as "the successful one" the one where they got each other in the end (which Jane and Tom did not). Constantly around Jane and Tom as the movie progressed, were Eliza and Henry, "the happier couple", flirting and having a physical relationship, quite openly. I felt the lession Jane was meant to learn from this was that a love match is possible, but only as long as one or both has access to money.
Therefore Jane made sure that all of the happy endings for her own heroines involved both love and secure financing.
I may remember some of this wrong, but it is my honest impression of the movie - and I very much recognized the Eliza from this video. Becoming Jane is far from a perfect movie, but this I felt was unfair.
It's been said of Austen that her perspective was that it was wrong to marry for money, but foolish to marry without it.
The fake comte's desire to drain the swamp reminds me of part of the plot of a great French film called Ridicule that is set in the same time period which ends far happier for the swamp drainer than it did for the fake comte de Feuillide.
She could totally have met Ben Franklin, John Adams or Thomas Jefferson when in Paris. They were down there too, I think, when these hot air balloons were launched.
Wow! That would have been so cool if she did!
I am fairly certain Franklin was there. I recall reading about it and his notes on the experience, though I could be confusing him with someone else
Thanks for the video. Great research and story telling. I love your navy blue dress and the pearls. You look fabulous!
Aw! Thank you!!!
As a french person, let me tell you I am not offended by the murder of Mr de Feuillide's name. We murder english names all the time.
Aw, thank you! Names are so hard in all languages for some reason. 😳
Excellent point !
Besides, "Feuillide" was butchered terribly, but "Jean-Francois Capot de" was pretty good.
As an Eliza I’m hell proud!! 💪🤩🤌👏
Great video. Thank you. I wonder what happened to her husband's mistress, how you know he had one, and if it is known why she didn't have a child with her cousin.
Eliza is a total badass. I love her!
Wonderful video as always
She was awesome! 😃 And thanks so much for watching!
Eliza talking about beaux reminds me of Sense and Sensibility 😂
😂😂😂 That’s what the word beaux always reminds me of too!
A great video of a fascinating woman! Some French housekeeping: Feuillide is pronounced "Fuy-eed." Dauphin is pronounced "doe-fah." Comte is pronounced "kohnt."
I think she was such an original and charming figure! She really must have been very modern for those times! No wonder Jane and her brothers where bewitched by her! :)
I cant believe that people can change their nicknames that easy, i have been most of my life asking my family to stop calling me a nickname they put me when i was a baby because it makes me feel like a grandma lol (jossie)
utterly adorable presentation of a fascinating story. in other hands this could have been confusing and/or tedious but nope! ellie to the rescue! storytelling panache!
oh and surname... yep it really is one of those french words, but a fair shot would be something like 'fuh-yeedh'
I interpreted Eliza in "Becoming Jane" a bit differently. To me, Henry clearly likes her and they both flirt. What she does is just to offer him money when he needs it and generally just being generous to him, as in the movie they present her as a rich person in her own accord. I do agree that it would have been infinitely better if she was portrayed as this beautiful society lady that does as she pleases and that turns bad situations to interesting ones, as she did in real life. She truly xould have married anyone she wanted, yet she married Henry Austen. She could have stayed free the rest of her short life... I guess she did love him.
I also didn't think they had a bad casting, it was a more mature, beautiful woman. I do not know what is supposed to be the age difference between her and Jane but she looked to me like an older cousin or even a young Auntie that is fun to hang around with.
I agree. The actress was beautiful, and the character came off every bit the glamorous, elegant, charming woman she is described as in this video. To me, anyway.
I do love these tales from the past
Truth truly is stranger than fiction
This needs to be a movie!
I love these stories!! Please make other videos about stories from the Victorian period!!
Yay! I’m so glad you enjoyed it!
WOW!! That is quite a life to have had. I think it speaks to her and her mother's adventurous and resilient spirit that, even through some MAJOR life events, they always found a way to be well.
Ellie, you are extraordinary !!!! You and your videos make my live brighter !!!! I imagine myself ,there, somewhere, in each story of yours ! I love your passion for that period . In one of your previous lives you danced in many of the balls you mentioned ! I know it for sure because I was there too . Thank you for your work and for sharing !🥰
I adore the way you tell these stories 😆
Wow, what a crazy life!
YASSSS I've been waiting for this vid! Love it!
Yay!!!
Newly uploaded video got me going back to the old classics ❤ love this stuff.
I've been waiting ages for this video! Thank youuuuuu :-)
Yay! Thank you for watching! 😃
luv u ellie!!! 💕💕
😃😃💕💕💕
Ok, you got me hooked with Jane Austen and the theme itself.
I love how i commented yesterday that i was waiting for this video and i feel heard thanks your a peach.
Yay! I’m glad it came out at an opportune moment!
What a life! You are also very good at telling exciting stories.
Love your storytelling! I have read Jane's books and some biographies but had not remembered anything about cousin Eliza. Thanks!
Yay! I’ve never been so early! 🥰 love your videos! ❤️
Aw! Thank you! And thank you for being early! 😃😃😃
Eliza was incredible. No wonder Henry married her.
Your content is my favorite on YT. What a great story!
Aw, thank you so much! 😃 And her life story is so fascinating!
Necesito una película de Eliza!!!
Great story. Eliza had quite the life
What a great narrator. She pulls the story through
Fascinating video on a fascinating life. Thanks!
Yay! Glad you enjoyed it!
This is a great video!
A great story well told, with the vibrancy and sheer enthusiam you have for your content ... Its such a treat to listen to! Thank you!
50 is SO YOUNG. I needed a huge sequel post escaping France of what her life would’ve been now back in England😩
Thanks!!!!😊👍🏽😁
This was fascinating
I smack the like button at the start of your videos so I don't commit the heinous sin of forgetting at the end,
Seriously though Ellie I do love your channel. This as always is great listening.
When life gives Eliza lemons she makes lemonade.
A quick question whilst I'm here, I've been listening to the full collection of Austin audio books, why have I struggled so much with the characters of Sense and Sensibility?
Aw! Thanks so much for liking my videos! 😃💕 That’s a great question about Sense and Sensibility. And I think it’s because really Jane is using the characters to dramatize an argument about emotion versus reason that was happening in society around her at the time. And that argument uses a lot of obscure concepts and terms that have either been lost or changed since then. I really think it is the hardest book of hers for modern readers because of that.
@@EllieDashwood Hi Ellie, as I bought the full jane set in Audio I'll give it another go. It's more the number of people running through the book rather than language, I grew up with English lit including Edmund Spenser's The Faerie Queene and the insane madcap adventure in Oscar Wilde's The Importance of being Earnest. .. thanks for the input. Jan
@@EllieDashwoodactually, I can relate so much to exactly that argument! So to me, those characters have always felt like close friends… I love your deep dives on all things Regency/ Victorian and Jane Austen!
As a native of the Philadelphia area, I find it hilarious that it was a woman's name once!
Another great video Miss Dashwood, thank you! Your hair also looks absolutely gorgeous!
Aw! Thank you!!!
Most exciting books are biographies!
So true! Eliza’s story is so much more exciting because it’s true.
When life gives you lemons... make some lemonade!
She definitely did that! 😃😂
Está bueno el chisme sisi
Am I the only one who kept thinking of Mary Crawford when Eliza was being described?
Didn't you leave out the part where Eliza spies for the American government and passes on the secrets of how to make French Fries?
😂😂😂
😂😂😂
It's time you learn the truth.
Fries aren't french.
@@ameliecarre4783 No! Next thing you're gonna tell me is that a Shakespearean Greek chorus doesn't speak Greek!
I declare myself Le Comte de Merestone. Bow before me, peasants--but not before bringing me the fruits of your labors!
I don't feel like there was enough vetting before Eliza's first marriage.
Agreed!!!
Hello! I’m going to a regency ball soon, and I’d like to know where you got your dress. It looks gorgeous on you! 🥰
Just a tip from a French person! Feuillide is simply pronounced fuh-YEED ;)
❤
Tea drinking? I love tea drinking :)
Tea drinking is awesome!
They need ‘The Scarlet Pimpernel’ for their French escape!
You'll hate me for this but, I can speak French with a French accent!!! I don't know how I do it but I've always been able to do that. I went to French immersion from play school that's before kindergarten in Canada. I can do it with Italian and Spanish too. I'm just thankful I that I can!!! 🧐😁🧐 Take care and have fun!!! 💃🕺💃 😷😎😷
That is so cool!!!!
Thank you 💗💖💗
It is a gift. It is nice that you are so open about it.
what is it with jane austen adaptations and biopics always showing any married or widowed woman as middle-aged? a woman could be a 'mrs someone' and also under the age of 40!
This is such a good point! 🤔
I pressed the like button so… refinedly.
Can you please explain how it is cheaper to live in Continental Europe at the time? I keep seeing this in history videos but I can't find any info on google... tia x
Eliza seems more exciting and wild than Lydia or Mary Crawford....Isabelle Thorpe.
😂 Good point!
I understand the apprehension of following parental advice, but I can name countless friends and relatives living in REGRET, sometimes delusionally.
Tea it's my passion
It’s a good passion to have!
Hey, what is the situation? I think that in the UK first cousins are still allowed to marry. It's just a rare occurrence (quite common in Asian families but that's something else!)
Yes that’s still the case as far as I’m aware. I had a friend who married her first cousin. It’s not common though. In the 19th century the one invention that improved the general health of British people was the bicycle. This invention meant that ordinary.people could look for partners outside their village and this improved the gene pool very quickly. I found this out at Edinburgh University. We students were thinking, vaccination, better water and sewerage systems and antiseptics so hearing it was the bicycle was a surprise.
@@alanaw27 "the one invention" really ? Like, vaccines and antiseptics did nothing for the British people at all ?
@@ameliecarre4783 I don't think they can help you much when your genes are all messed up due to inbreeding. Just ask those flat face kitties who can barely breathe.
It’s illegal in most of the US
Did it bother the men if their women were entertaining other men ? I just wonder about this since they often had mistresses. Eliza seems to be a pleasant fun person who nevér gives up ❤
Love the video! And all your videos! Though I must comment on the pronunciation of Dauphin. Its more like Dough-faun (very soft "n", just in the nose) rather than Daw-fin. I'm sorry, I am deeply pedantic.
Again, LOVE your videos :)
It sounds like everything in relation to the Comte didn’t really go well. Even unfortunately the passing away of her son. So sad.
I read balls on the screencap and thought of every type of the ball but the one shes talking about
I took 12 years if french, I'm still terrible at it, it's cool
Your foundation is really nice, what do you use.
Hah, I changed my name too halfway through my teen years! Though I am neither a young woman, nor of gentility...
It’s a great time to change your name apparently! 😃😂
@_@ that feels like a lot of land today also tho
True!
The way you pronounce Feuillide x)
Crazy! I just took a deep dive on the French Revolution and finished it yesterday - and today, I’m swimming around in the ‘life and times’ of someone that actually lived through it…
(My ancestors fled Normandy to England during the French Revolution…) not sure if that’s cool, or embarrassing 👀🤣 oh, btw… do you think it is possible that the Lady Susan inspiration could have been Eliza’s mum, with Eliza being the daughter? What do you think? Is it plausible, or way off? 🤔😊
Why did Jane Austen never write about her cousin Eliza? Was it just not done? Was it because no one would believe it???
Did she loose her title (even though not real) when she married Henry?
In those days, you would keep the highest title you had been . . Um. . . "ENtitled" to! Later it became customary to step back down in rank to match a lower ranking subsequent husband.
I probably mistaken Eliza for Jane
Don't know why.
Which novel you will consider regency era "50 shades of Grey"?
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Do we know where if Jane based any of her characters off Eliza or Philadelphia ?
Omg Eliza’s husband is just a rich Vlad Popov
Feuillide? Would that be pronounced Foy-eede?
That’s a good guess!
Close! It's more like Flu-eed
@@Rebecca_English Nope, not either.
Yes, that's a good guess.