The Mario Movie Removed Something!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 มี.ค. 2023
- An extended scene for the Super Mario Bros. Movie REMOVED Mario's "What is this place" line and changed his animation! Which do you like better?
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I think it’s better simply because the audience already knows what he is thinking. Better to show instead of tell.
show don't tell is a powerfull writing tool
hoping a lot of lines get cut for that reason. Luckily, a lot of other unnecessary lines aren't lipsynced in the trailers anyway
agreed
That, or he uses it slightly earlier, or later in somewhere other than the Mushroom Kingdom.
I definitely think this is better
It makes Toad’s little jumpscare more impactful. Definitely good change.
Actually facts
"Do not touch that mushroom you'll DiE!"
@Martin W H A T
@Martin NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
what about Peach?
@Martin jaysin
He literally says “what is this place” right before he enters the mushroom world. He and Luigi get knocked through a wall and see a closed off area with pipes where he says “what is this place”. I guess they decided to put it in a different scene but it is still definitely said in the movie
"closed off area with pipes"
would that happen to be the pipe zone? or rather the area with 3 pipes that takes you to later worlds?
@@randomness.stupidness It could be, there was a lot of reference to previous games, shows etc. I almost got the feeling it was a nod to the original movie, how they go underground and find a portal to another world, in this case the pipes but it could also have been a nod to the secret area of the original game as well.
WarP zone
Spoiler alert pls I haven't watched it yet
Yeah
An actual missing line is the change from "Now who's gonna stop me?!" to "Now no one can stop me!" in the intro section.
I think it's better. Who is going to stop me almost implies that Bowser might know who Mario is in the beginning. No one makes more sense
They also omitted Bowser saying "Open the gates.... OR DIE."
@@flyingspaghettiauditor no it’s still in
@@salad8020 I meant the trailer omitted the line. I think the scene in the movie is far superior for including it
@@flyingspaghettiauditor they didn’t add in the “or die” in the trailer I think
So they made his confusion, curiosity, and awe a little more subtle
I like that. Visuals go a long way
I think youll find that the silence was what was always scripted for the film and they added the line for the original trailer for impact and because they dont have the time to allow a moment to rest. I dont think it was a change, it was just marketing.
@@jockslifeatliftvideoproduc8528 probably
@@jockslifeatliftvideoproduc8528 That might explain why that line wasn't as well-delivered, too
Blind niggas: 😎
No they don’t
I say it's better since it just leaves him speechless and amazed of where he end up in.
@@TheSpencer_08 you really can't let me have my own choices of what I Think huh. -_-
Such is the internet. Even though removing it wasn’t really necessary, I, however, agree that the scene does seem better speechless.
Like, he is being more thoughtful and observant. Sometimes, saying less and showing more can be more powerful.
@@TheSpencer_08 You didn't have to agree nor comment 💀
Yeah, it works better like this. Especially with the amazement
If there's something I've learned from Genndy Tartakovsky, especially in PRIMAL, is that some things a better without dialogue, let the visuals and character expressions speak for themselves.
Also the mushroom kingdom here we come!
yeah see i'm not tripping!
That made me mad
He says it when he's in the sewers in Brooklyn.
Yes but I the clip he doesnt
@@lurdie ???
Just like the "Scrapbook to freedom" scenes in both the Trolls movie and preview.
@@NicholasS264 *Yes, but in this clip he doesn’t say that
Yeah
Silence can add way more impact to a scene depending on how it's used. In a scene like this, it highlights Mario's sheer bewilderment of this unfamiliar environment, leaving him at a loss of words in both awe and confusion
True. However even Dorthy had a line of dialog when entering Oz for the first time and I think Alice did too when she entered Wonderland. Plus Luigi would be more awestruck. Mario would be confused and than immediately start talking.
Plus it makes the audience have to thinka bout how he feels
Pretty much like ridleys Scott alien silence is Golden
It is better, classic “Show don’t tell” at work.
Mandalorian proved it at best
@@TheFunnyGuy9000 and then stopped doing it in the next season
@@jockin I mean The doctor showed that he was feeling uncomfortable about this big brother crap in his planet he didn't tell that much
Yes
OMG! I was thinking the same thing!😁😁
To me, Mario being speechless shows how blown away he is. Has a bit more dramatic effect if you’re looking at it closely
I imagine they did it because of a few reasons:
1. They wanted to show off more of his animation, since this is easily by far the most cartoonish looking Illumination movie to date.
2. Everyone already knows that he’s wondering since they moved the line earlier in the film to the sewers. If he’s curious about that, then one could only imagine how much more curious he is here.
3. People were worried about Chris Pratt’s voice for Mario. Not only that but it seems like there may have been multiple retakes. For example, compare the "wahoo!" in the trailer with his kart to the final result in the movie itself. There’s a very clear difference to make it sound right.
4. It’s pointless, we already know he looks very curious even without the moved line or how fluid the animation is. You can just see it in his movement. I’m a bigger fan of subtler details more than I am them making everyone say everything like every other typical Illumination movie does.
These are all just guesses though, I could be 100% wrong on all of them for all I know. It could also be as easy as them simply forgetting, I dunno. I doubt that since this is Nintendo we’re talking about wanting to maintain their image with details, (Much like Disney now that I think about it, and with similar business practices too) but it’s a possibility.
i didnt read allat
Its definitely deliberate, "forgetting" wouldn't have resulted in a different animation (no lipsync)
His silence is more realistic because he's alone
You don't talk to your self when you're alone? Lots of people do. Myself included.
@@SkippysBacon a lot more people don't usually talk alone
@@SkippysBacon I gotta disagree with you there, I don’t talk to myself either …. And if you do talk to yourself, it’s most likely a fear of being alone or lonely as it helps to build a “presence” around you
@@DarkHorseDanny oh....my...God....So many things make sense now! 😂😅
@@SkippysBacon majority don’t.
He says "what is this place?" when Luigi and him discover the Pipe Zone
Yeah i did notice it too
Lighting is slightly warmer in the new one
To be fair if i was cleaning someone’s pipes and fell in and ended up in a mushroom filled land I’d be speechless too
Sus
@@boobyegg2135 cringe
@@ABlueyFan sus
Grab another corn dog max 🐰
They probably did it specifically for the trailer to let everyone to this is Mario's first time in the Mushroom Kingdom. But when you actually watch the full movie play out naturally, I'm sure it's already obvious by that point that it's his first time there
yeah theres some trailers where they show the the same shot but the characters arent saying anything in one, and then a diffrent trailer they are saying something
This makes a ton of sense and is totally the reason
pretty sure they wanted chris platt to say something
Not everyone is going to watch the trailer though. Either way I'm glad he doesn't say anything here now
@@ADreamingTraveler you don't need to watch the trailer to understand that because the movie will show it in other ways lol...
I'm happy they respected us enough not to make Mario just announce what he's thinking. You pretty much get the idea by looking at his face.
They also removed the badly done "Mushroom Kingdom, here we come!" line completely
Because Mario does not know the Mushroom Kingdom when he first entered.
I honestly love the silence. Really ads to how awestruck he is. Makes him look more like he's still processing where he is
and music sounds more grand
I think that line was made to pormote the movie. It just makes sense that they removed this. You can also clearly hear that they completely changed the background music. The line fit perfectly with the ominous mario remix in the early preview. Now it has an entirely different vibe
The music from the trailer was obviously not the one that was going to be used on the movie tho
@@Mr.Yahoo_that’s the point. The line made sense for the trailer, but not the movie
@@paulytheking7365 I think it might still be used in the movie, just not in that shot.
@@robbiewalker2831 maybe a different scene.
Definitely feels more mystical than ominous
Maybe they thought it was redundant, because he does say that earlier in the movie when they find the room with the Warp Pipe.
It's not actually missing, it replaced in the pipe area, they didn't repeat it and that made it better. He was already curious. It was really well crafted.
The exact same thing happened in Sonic movie 2, where in the trailer shot version when Knuckles grabs on Sonic's spin dash he said, "Do I Look Like I Need Your Power?" While in the actual movie he said the line moments prior and instead said nothing when he grabs Sonic's spin dash and immediately smashing him to the ground. There is such a thing called "Alternate Trailer Shots"
And I hate it when they do that.
@@MrRuePine Its mostly because in the trailer you would need some context and stuff because you would have no idea knuckles would be stronger than sonic right away, but when the actual movie released, they didnt need this phrase anymore since that scene happened right before knuckles proved that he was way stronger than sonic.
@@MrRuePine why.
@@tumultuousv They show us these trailers, which even get memed on the internet for how awesome they were, but then, in the final product, the released movie, it's NOT THERE. Wouldn't you hate that too?
@@WhatsItsName I wasn't talking JUST for Sonic Movie 2, this one and ANY other movie that does that.
Twitter made fun of the quote because, rightfully so, they said it felt too generic and that animation studios don't bother trying to be unique anymore
i think it's less originality and more chris pratt
which is to say, we want less of him.
What was the post called
@@kennysteen2761 - That's just the haters. Normies aren't bothered.
@@rodjacksonxKeep telling yourself that. Even normaies know what Mario is supposed to sound like.
THEY ALSO GOT RID OF THE "mushroom kingdom here we come" and I was devastated
They also removed:
"Mushroom Kingdom, Here We Come."
I don't blame them. I'm totally fine with Chris Pratt's performance in this film, but that was an AWFUL take
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To see a cartoon character emote, opposed to narrating everything the movie creators want the audience to think, is pretty rare. I appreciate the silence of the scene.
Usually animators do a couple of variations of the same scene just in case or for the trailers. This is specially common in 3D animation where you can simply delete the animation inputs on certain parts of the model, like the mouth.
Tool pfp spotted
Truly
It happened also in Sonic 2, when Knuckles said: "do I look like I need your power?" It has seen that knuckles said nothing.
No he said the line, he said it just before that moment.
@@snowbird1381 no one asked you, okay?!!??!?!?!
@@user-sr9ln2fc9s geez calm down. You’re acting like a child. Don’t post comments if you don’t want anyone reacting to you.
a lot of things were removed from the final product but I'm sure they'll put those scenes in the DVD when it's released.
If we complain enough, they'll turn the entire film into a silent movie
What’s wrong with the voice acting cause most of it is good Mario is supposed to be a normal guy so Chris works here and toad sounds good along with peach bowser is pretty good. Luigi is also good unless your talking about Mario than none of the voices are bad.
@@mydogghost it's called a joke
They didn’t remove it because of complaints, most people like the voice anyways
@@Bilbo122333 yeah one that suggests that the other character have bad voice acting
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If you went to a world full of mushrooms with a massive castle in the middle of nowhere in the middle of a job, id be left speechless
The studio saw the backlash to Chris Pratt's Mario voice and panicked. Now he won't say anything in the entire movie
Which is preferable tbh. No disrespect to Chris, but fuck him in this role specifically.
lmfao
Ahha. Ahhaa... Very funny.
They know we're just going to watch the french version, so they're removing lip flaps so we won't have to read so many subtitles
Wrong.
I watched it today and it was AMAZING
They also took out the letsa go phrase when he fought Donkey Kong and kept it for a later time. I think Pratt did well in the end, he just needed time to get used to the character
I feel like I've seen Illumination specifically do this with other movies (Despicable Me particularly, though I may be remembering wrong); they'll make one version of a scene for trailers to give you more express context for the plot, and then change the scene when they have the whole 90-120 minutes to draw things out
They actually moved the line to the start of the movie
SPOILER ALERT
They moved it to where Mario and Luigi are in the sewers,
mario looks down and says: “What is this place?”
Yup I was looking for this comment, a surprising amount of people didn’t notice
Yep FINALLY someone noticed
Are you sure the line wasn't meant to be in the sewer scene in the first place, and that they only put the line in the scene from the trailer for teaser purposes?
@@earthchild03 They probably made it first, then decided to change it.
@@DOneHater Some say in the movie Trolls that they decided to move "scrapbook to freedom" line from one scene to another without even thinking about the "solid burn returned" line.
i think it's good because it keeps the scene silent which makes people jump more when toad shows up lmao
He now says this voiceclip when entering the underground sewers of Brooklyn
This could be a sign that they’re removing the dialogue entirely. The movie will be released as a 20’s style silent film with title cards for what each character says.
At least I won't have to hear Chris Twat
oh my i hope so
talking is so overrated
we need more major silent movies
Or a 21st-century Mario game with title cards. ;)
These people are joking that the movie won't have any dialogue. It will, too, have dialogue!
To be fair, that's how a lot of these movies work.
True, trailers are placeholders
Especially animated films. They record lines and animate sequences _just_ for trailers and TV spots.
@@Someone33390 Yeah, it's possible he might've said it somewhere in the movie, just not in that shot specifically.
@@Someone33390 true like for example, in the trailer for trolls, the trolls were dancing to can’t stop the feeling with branch not having his true colors however that scene was never in the movie
In fact almost half the scenes/shots in the trailer for Trolls weren’t actually in the movie
I think it really let's the soundtrack shine, especially since it's the first introduction to the mushroom kingdom
He’s says it in that abandoned sewer
They might pull a Sonic 2 and have him say it after he looks around but just before meeting Toad
The silence gives the moment a sense of wonderment that doesn't need words.
And maybe, just maybe, it could spark some sense of familiarity in the back of his mind that he can't form into words, like if he's seen lands like these in his early EARLY youth. (perhaps if the events of Yoshi's Island could be canon to this movie, but it's just a fleeting thought)
Yoshi's island deserves a mini series
They actually used the line “what is this place” for when Mario and Luigi first entered the underground city underneath Brooklyn
They also removed the cheep cheep on toads face bit
I'm guessing the line was there just to showcase Mario's voice
I think removing that line makes me feel that he is flabbergasted. The old one just makes it so he's confused
Funny enough: He still says this line in the movie. Just during a different scene somewhere else.
The movie was a absolute masterpiece honestly. Watched in 3D recliner theater such a good time.
If they can convey emotion like this, the Zelda movie has a very real future.
If the Zelda movie is another goofball Illumination Studios comedy not taking anything seriously then i dont want it. I think if there is a Zelda movie it should be a proper Japanese Anime film. It's the only way it could work.
@@John-X nintendo is making their own animation studio and if mario succeeds they will make the zelda one and the rest
NINTENDO IS MAKING THEIR OWN ANIMATION STUDIO???? BRUH YOU GOT ME@@brickedup2006
@@John-X Agreed but if they do make something successful i wouldnt mind a reference to "Well excuse me princess"
@@scarecrowhobo I would hate that. I would hhhhhhhaaaate that. I hate that consoomer fanservice garbage. And I'm so sick of MCU-tier goofball bullshit. The last Thor movie was the last straw, i'm done with the MCU and any movies that try to emulate it.
It's very likely that was purely for the trailer, it's not too uncommon for trailer only things to exist.
Take that infamous Ralph Breaks The Internet pancake scene for example, which was included as a mid credit scene.
Yeah, I still remember the cow from Twister.
Like all the marvel trailers Thor Ragnarok is one of the biggest
He actually says that exact line when they find the under ground sewer area
They also removed the scene with the cheep cheeps and peach and toad getting it off his face
I think the change isn't bad. It's like asking Jackie Chan to preform a fight scene and ask him to also say some "tough guy" think after his character beats the other people.
A lot of movie use scenes that didn’t make it into the movie in trailers. This is probably one of the cases.
Especially when it comes to Disney. Disney movie trailers often feature scenes that aren't in the final movie. One example I can think of is the scene in the Frozen II teaser where the group all look at the Enchanted Forest from a distance.
Marvel has a history of having misleading trailers to hid spoilers.
And in Puss in Boots there were two scenes that weren't in the film. The Sumo death and the "When you only have one life, that's what makes it special".
In one of the trailers, Bowser says “I’m so stoked right now”, sad that never made it in the final movie…
He also doesn't say "mushroom kingdom here i come" like in the trailer
I love how cute he looks. ❤
I like this a lot! It shows a lot more of Marrio’s personality (since he can be the quiet type) instead of him speaking immediately
I love when Latinos actor crying over white person voice the character lol. I mean Velma and others have gender and race swapping then we can do too lol.
I wanna see Ryan gosling as black panther pleaaase
@@tjohnnyf7100 Latinos?? You mean Italians?? Mario has been referred to as from Brooklyn, New York for a long time in canon, so Chris Pratt with a hint of New Yaawwk wouldn't be too off the mark. Realistically I would think it would be gruffer for a blue collar New Yorker with a tough mustache but it's more of a happy medium between Martinet's YAHOO YIPPEE and the 1980s failed Mario movie's NY accent.
@@tjohnnyf7100 Chris pratts voice does not fit Mario at all. Infact the Mario voice actor whose been doing it ever since the first Mario game could easily do it today but they chose to hire a celebrity due to his popularity. Shitty decidiond
Old one is better because when he goes to the mushroom world and if he’s confused about the place then him saying words makes sense of why he’s confused
Also for anyone wondering he doesn’t go “mushroom kingdom, here we come” in the movie and is replaced with “im commin luigi”
There’s another change that appeared on the official website. One of the testimonies said that they saw Mario and Luigi go down the pipe. Now it’s changed to say that he checked up on them in the basement, never saw from them again.
I like his silence because he doesn’t really talk in the game so it never made a huge difference
Also in the trailer when they get their cars from donkey kings dad, toads car honk is the same honk as in Mario kart 8, but in the movie he doesn’t honk his car at all
Just like in Sonic the Hedgehog 2 where Knuckles says (Do I look like I need your powers?) in the trailer. But in the actual movie he doesn’t say anything at the part where he says that in the trailer. Now in Super Mario Bros the Movie Mario says (What is this place?) in the old. But when in the new it goes from Mario saying (What is this place?) to him not saying anything at all. I mean Knuckles does still say (Do I look like I need your powers) but at a different part In the actual movie than in the trailer.
It reminded me of the Sonic 2 trailer where Knuckles says the words, "Do I look like I need your power?" while he blocks Sonic from the spin attack, then in the final film, he didn't say the words because he said it in the scene when Robotnik introduce Knuckles to Sonic before the scene like the one we saw from the 1st trailer.
Knuckles says it when Sonic said face it, you will never get my power
You know, I was just a little disappointed with that.
But just a little since the scene was still amazing!
He says it earlier before he knocks sonic outside
Let’s not forget that the lighting has been fixed up too.
He said that line when he entered the sewer system
I actually noticed that during the film and going 👁️👄👁️
Definitely better. Good facial expressions should be able to convey a simple line like that.
They made him say “what is this place” to make the trailer more epic
Also they removed an entire bit from the trailer, when the Cheep Cheep gets on Mario's face and Peach and Toad are trying to get it off of him on that bridge in the second trailer, that little few-second clip is shortened in the movie itself to just Mario
I remember something like this in the movie “Up.” The old man was originally supposed to blow raspberries (basically making a spitting noise) as his home rises into the air, but in the release movie, he says something entirely different and even has different animations.
I am sure they did that because of all the uproar with Chris Pratts's voice...when they first aired it. Or maybe it's an editing thing and they just wanted Mario to use his facial expressions rather than say something.
It's more likely just an alternate cut made specifically for trailers, it's done all the time for movies, there's a scene that's different or been changed for the theatrical release that's different from the trailers.
No. Absolutely not.
That makes no sense
Chris Pratt is NO Charles Martinet. Also, the French dub movie voice actor is getting more praise online than Chris Pratt is.
@@benaravensfan thats the thing. Everyone is adapted in voices from games also Mario in the past had different voices so this not makes any sense.
MUCH better. Nicest dramatic beat in all the footage so far.
The voice line is used like a minute before this when they discover the green pipe under brooklyn
The line wasn't removed from the movie it was just placed into another scene. He says the exact line in exact tone when him and luigi discover the warp zone.
wait it's so much cuter like that, the gentle bewilderment
Bruh this makes this scene so much better, I'm so glad Nintendo has a lot of say in this movie cause otherwise Illimation would definitely butcher it.
How did the word "bruh" add to what you said, at all?
@@emperorstevee It's probably said like "Bro, this makes this-"
@@Red_MOON187 I know, so why is "bro" needed?
@@emperorstevee That's just how some people talk/type? Why did you put "at all" in your first comment? Everyone speaks differently.
@@emperorstevee Brooo, that's just how some peeps talk y'know?
They also removed the "Mushroom Kingdom, here we come" line.
Reminds me of when Sonic 2 changed the You'll never have my power line to BEFORE the fight instead of during
I think there are some other reasons as to why they changed this but I think a huge one is that it just adds another layer of subtlety that engages the audience to actually observe what he might be thinking. Smart change IMO
Maybe Mario will say "What is this place?" later in the film, just like how in Sonic 2, Knuckles says "Do I look like I need your power?" earlier before the scene where he stopped Sonic's Spin Dash with his palm.
That's a good point, true! Good idea! ^^
@@elfilinamie1326 I wanna assume he will say that line after meeting Toad, and he sees Mushroom Kingdom with Peach's Castle. Then Toad cheerfully says Mushroom Kingdom.
@@suckerman7gm i think that makes sense because in a trailer mario says "this place is?" and toad says "the mushroom kingdom!" but in another trailer mario actually says "this place is amazing" which makes me think that mario will ask what is thsi place insteas of that
Maybe in the place with all of the fireflowers when hes with peach. He asks her what is this place and she responds by talking about the different kingdoms out there or saying something special about the tree there at, which then leads to the scene of them going to the castle and looking at he map of all the kingdoms.
They also did in Sonic 2 with Knuckles, he still said the line but it was moved
A lot of movies do this. I remember watching trailers of certain movies and a line which is in the trailer isnt in that particular place in the film
I personally think it’s better because Mario’s expression alone will let the audience know that he’s in a different dimension. And this was actually done before in similar movies, such as Narnia and Tron: Legacy.
On one hand, Sometimes a scene doesn't require any words to express the situation.
However, the fact one of Mario's (Chris Pratts) line's was just completely cut, I wonder if they're having difficulties getting Chris to get the lines right.
Although, this line was one i had very little issue with since it was so basic.
That's because he said that line earlier when discovering Brooklyn's underground pipe system
Yep
What if Mario does a multi dimensions movie after the smash bros… then they all can meet there Nintendo and cartoon counterparts?
I know this isn't related, but finding this channel and hearing this mans voice again sparked hella nostalgia for me. I remember watching this guy to find star coins in nsmbw 😭
I'm thinking they added that line for the trailer to better convey that this is Mario's first time in that world (as otherwise, it wouldn't be super clear, imo)
Also the red fish that was succing on Mario's face and peach was shown trying to pull the red fish off. In the movie it shows Mario getting the SUCC but it just cuts out peach trying to help Mario.
It is now used in a different part of the movie
I’m assuming because there was such an outcry over Mario’s voice acting when the trailer first came out so to avoid deterring more people they just took out his line entirely.
Mario's lines aren't the only thing that have been removed, so no it has nothing to do with the outcry. It's just to build immersion and the classic "show dont tell" writing method which makes the scene more impactful.
I'm glad you showed the comparison like three times, I was really struggling to find the difference.
Me too. I didn't notice any sort of difference the first time, so having them repeat it twice more helped me to look more closely at the scenes
They also removed the mushroom kingdom here we come
In the movie they also made bowser say “Now No one’s going to stop me” instead of “who’s going to stop me”. And also they put the line of Mario saying “what is this place” when he was in the sewer with Luigi instead of putting it when Mario was in the mushroom kingdom.