Why Did Anita and Luther Have BEEF? (Part I)

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  • This is the first episode of 3-part Soulful Charts series which takes a look back on the tantalizing tension between Anita Baker and Luther Vandross in 1988.
    Part 2: • Why Did Anita and Luth...
    Part 3: • Why Did Anita and Luth...
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    Sources:
    26th Annual Ohio Kool Festival 1987 (Printed Promo), The Cincinnati Enquirer, July 12, 1987
    26th Annual Ohio Kool Festival 1987 (Printed Advertisement), July 21, 1987, The Cincinnati Enquirer
    “Baker’s enraptured by success” by Cliff Radel, July 24, 1987, Page D1 & D8, The Cincinnati Enquirer
    “Riverfront packed full of hot music” by Walter Tunis, July 24, 1987, Page B1, Lexington Herald Leader
    “Anita Baker Thrills 40,000 at Kool Fest” by Cliff Radel, July 25, 1987, Page D-5, The Cincinnati Enquirer
    Concert Watch, Page 7, September 9, 1988, The Baltimore Sun
    “Singer Produces a Masterpiece” by George Albert, September 24, 1988, Page E-3, The Kansas City Times
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  • @heyrobertcarter1
    @heyrobertcarter1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I saw that concert and I must say I went as a Anita Baker fan but left as a Luther Vandross fanatic. He was a world class entertainer. Anita was great but couldn’t touch Luther.

    • @speway
      @speway ปีที่แล้ว +8

      "What you talk'n bout Wills"?

    • @dancefloor9032
      @dancefloor9032 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@speway I understand what he means.

    • @bd3825
      @bd3825 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Amen!

  • @quintinhudgens3329
    @quintinhudgens3329 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Luther had problems with En Vogue when they were on tour with hi m.

  • @mariasantiago4978
    @mariasantiago4978 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I saw Luther Vandross on his tour with Anita Baker and comedian Sinbad opened for them. At Rosemont Horizon in Chicago. It was the was the best concert I ve been to.

    • @darlene457
      @darlene457 ปีที่แล้ว

      I saw that one too. Only time I saw them both. About to see her when she comes this June 2023

    • @efg5000
      @efg5000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I worked backstage At Rosemont Horizon in Chicago with PERRI Sisters, Anita Baker's background singer...
      They are so sweet & kind I want another LP/CD from them‼

  • @dancefloor9032
    @dancefloor9032 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I am a big Luther Vandross fan and also a fan of Anita Baker.
    I was able to experience Luther's concerts in Germany in 1986 and 1993.
    Luther Vandross was a musician who cared about his music and his fans, and when I saw him on stage I realized that he was absolutely not diva-like. He approached his fans and made them understand that he was one of them and that they were all one in his music. Having worked on stage as a backliner myself for many years, I know the nature of musicians. There is the exemplary behavior of musicians who are always bitching on stage, it's those who don't have much professional experience and forget why they are on stage and what their job is. Luther Vandross was for me a person who was not only about himself, but about communicating his art of music to mankind. In the art of music all people are equal and connects people, there is no place for intrigue, hatred or envy.
    Many greetings from Heidelberg / Germany

  • @Jamescampbell4661
    @Jamescampbell4661 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    They were both Divas on that tour.
    Both wanted to be the Headliner instead of Alternating dates.

  • @eugenemckinney8736
    @eugenemckinney8736 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wow, I never would've thought Luther was "never too much" of a nice person and wasn't showing"any love," and as for Anita she wasn't "giving us the best attitude that she's got" cause "no one in the world" wouldn't deserve her antics.

    • @TheRetroWoman80
      @TheRetroWoman80 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I saw what you did. Clever lol.

    • @Ladybhive71
      @Ladybhive71 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      😂 oh yes

    • @luckylady5073
      @luckylady5073 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good one🤣🤣

    • @jahneastanfield2662
      @jahneastanfield2662 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "If this world were mine," It would be a "perfect love affair".
      "I apologize", "if only for one night"... "You bring me joy!"...
      "Can I take you out tonight?"
      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @samdauphin8052
    @samdauphin8052 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Why is LUTHER always beefing with Females smhh … gay men can be just as catty as girls
    Luther vs Anita … Luther vs En Vogue

    • @asayudwhaddameant8346
      @asayudwhaddameant8346 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      What women was he ALWAYS beefing with? There's En Vigue and Anita Baker, period! Patti Labelle, Gladys Knight, Stephanie Mills, Oleta Adams, Shirley Murdock, and Vanessa Williams all toured with Luther without incident.

    • @dancefloor9032
      @dancefloor9032 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There are also enough women who bitch around and forget why they are on stage and what their job is. I myself worked on stage for many years and most of the women who had the least professional experience bitched around. Greetings from Heidelberg / Germany

    • @dancefloor9032
      @dancefloor9032 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@asayudwhaddameant8346 Very good and objective comment from them. Greetings from Heidelberg / Germany

    • @leshaunda
      @leshaunda ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah Luther called the cops on En Vogue

  • @mcdonoghrahloh459
    @mcdonoghrahloh459 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Went to their concert in 87.RIP Mr Vandross.I got to hold Ms Baker's hand a few years back,I Love her!

  • @brodocbetty4856
    @brodocbetty4856 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Luther was a Diva and a bit envious of others Talent.

    • @dancefloor9032
      @dancefloor9032 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You are absolutely wrong with your statement, Luther did not behave like a diva at all.
      Luther had no reason at all to be envious of others, that is absolute nonsense.

    • @SuiteVII
      @SuiteVII ปีที่แล้ว +5

      According to Whitney, Luther envied those with slimmer figures

    • @acrux739
      @acrux739 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      100% sorry, he had problems with en vogue too

    • @jamesgibson3716
      @jamesgibson3716 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@dancefloor9032 you don't have a clue. Luther was legendary, but he was difficult to deal with. He was a queen.

    • @dancefloor9032
      @dancefloor9032 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamesgibson3716 Your comment is very cheap with her statement . How long have you been listening to Luther Vandross ? how many concerts have you attended by him ? Have you ever worked with musicians on stage and in the studio ? Before you accuse someone of not having a clue, you should first present your credentials and prove your claims.

  • @kevinlaster2287
    @kevinlaster2287 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Watching this was like reading one of those articles on the internet that you have to keep changing pages and you still never got the answer. I’m not even interested in hearing how this played out anymore. Feels like I just wasted a lot of time that I wasn’t gone do s**t with anyway🤣🤣

    • @akekestory493
      @akekestory493 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ok thx for letting me know I'll exist the video now so I don't waste time

  • @suzied4270
    @suzied4270 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wish artists like these still came to Cincinnati ❤ last good concert i went to was New Edition reunion and Toni Braxton

  • @feistygrandma2636
    @feistygrandma2636 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Anita Baker had her nerve back then and she have a lot of nerve now just because she shot her husband and went to jail when she was singing with chapter 8 she thinks she about that life she's a rotten egg, Luther vandross was a humble man until he got on that stage open his mouth and you can hear every word he sung but Anita Baker you cannot hear nothing that she saying and she does not write anything she's jealous she was jealous of Luther vandross just like she jealous of Babyface today period she's not a diva she's narcissist,

  • @REDD_BLITZ
    @REDD_BLITZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Easy. You can't put two demanding QUEEN DIVAS under one roof lmao

    • @realmontana6838
      @realmontana6838 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂

    • @quintinhudgens3329
      @quintinhudgens3329 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      EXACTLY!!!!

    • @dancefloor9032
      @dancefloor9032 ปีที่แล้ว

      You think wrong and you should not call everyone a diva just because he is a successful artist. Greetings from Heidelberg / Germany

    • @mmurph
      @mmurph ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dancefloor9032 they called him one because he is one.

    • @dancefloor9032
      @dancefloor9032 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mmurph With Michael Jackson, people also saw him as they would like him to be.

  • @britturk123
    @britturk123 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think it is pointless having a problem with someone like Luther Vandross because he was in my view not a Diva, but saying that he probably would not have hidden away from an argument either I think Anita started and possibly carried on the silliness, it is a shame that she did because Luther Vandross would have been an absolute darling to her forever and more had she shown him just a touch of what she can deliver as an artiste in the real world, a bit of love basically.

    • @dancefloor9032
      @dancefloor9032 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You have recognized this very correctly and also expressed it well with your comment. Thank you !
      I myself agree with your opinion, because I have seen Luther Vandross live in 1986 and 1993.
      I myself have worked many years on stage as a backliner and know too well how many musicians can become bitchy. They often forget why they are on stage and what job they have. Luther Vandross was only about his art and that was his music and he wanted to internalize the humanity. Otherwise he would hardly have worked with such musicians as Markus Miller, Nat Adderley junior and other musicians so many years together.
      Many greetings from Heidelberg / Germany

  • @TheArtWithinYou3
    @TheArtWithinYou3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Because he wanted to be a Queen, duhhhg 😂😂😂😂

    • @SuiteVII
      @SuiteVII ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same when he toured with En Vogue 😂

  • @CMBlue
    @CMBlue ปีที่แล้ว

    I just came across this hidden GEM of a channel! I love your videos and subject matter of choice! Thank you for sharing this knowledge with others who didn't get to hear about it at the time

  • @redbutterfly88
    @redbutterfly88 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i want to know how luther reacted when confronted by el debarge.

  • @dappdaddy33
    @dappdaddy33 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    …I ride w/Luther…it’s Anita Baker she’s the PROBLEM 💯✔️…even 2day in 2023 she’s jealous of Babyface✔️smh…

  • @acrux739
    @acrux739 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    neither seemed too nice, i've heard bad stuff about ms baker!

  • @suzied4270
    @suzied4270 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I still can't believe he was gay. Made such good music though.

  • @girlbrittneygirl
    @girlbrittneygirl ปีที่แล้ว +4

    She’s from Ohio!!!

    • @dancefloor9032
      @dancefloor9032 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm sure you're from Ohio too .😀 Greetings from Heidelberg / Germany

    • @girlbrittneygirl
      @girlbrittneygirl ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dancefloor9032 No, But I do have family there.

    • @dancefloor9032
      @dancefloor9032 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@girlbrittneygirl My sister lives in Tennessee with her husband. They were Germans and now they are both Americans and have lived in the USA for 35 years. Greetings from Heidelberg / Germany

    • @girlbrittneygirl
      @girlbrittneygirl ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dancefloor9032 Ok. Greetings from Tennessee!

    • @fiyre43
      @fiyre43 ปีที่แล้ว

      Toledo, my hometown 😁

  • @howardglover8109
    @howardglover8109 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I ain't no hater but this stuff he said about Anita I don't believe she has a great voice but all this control and stuff LOL

  • @AkachiIsGod
    @AkachiIsGod ปีที่แล้ว

    DMV in the house :)

  • @speway
    @speway ปีที่แล้ว

    Intriguing . 🤔

  • @garyb.3459
    @garyb.3459 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nothing was explained about the “beef” in this video. A waste of my time. 😒