Scale Model Tips - Testing Cheap Metallic Craft Paint & A $20 Airbrush
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- Here I test metallic craft paint and a $20 Paasche airbrush. The paints are very nice, they are called Shimmer Effect. They are super thick and needed a lot of thinning to get them thru the airbrush. I found that the airbrush did these paints no favor and results weren't the best as they could be, but not too bad. So half way through this test I switched to my good airbrush to see the difference. Watch the video and see for yourself
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I enjoy your vids and have learned quite a bit about using cheap acrylics, however I’d like to see you build something and see your skills used on a model. Keep up the good work.
I still use my Passche "H" model 44 years later . I also have the 1, 3, & 5 needles. Old reliable hasn't failed all these years. I also save the old glass bottles, clean the labels off & relabel with a label maker. The slip on nozzle caps for the bottles are good for short term paint storage, They also keep dust & tiny debris out of the jar nozzle. You could use a small travel hair dryer drying between coats. I found & still a dryer that's approx. 4.5 "x 5"x 2.5 dia. with a 6ft. cord, an on-off switch (1 heat setting) & it folds up into a compact package.
Another great test video. Very appreciated! I bought about 20 bottles of the craft paints after your last tests. They seem more durable than the vallejo paints I've used, and don't clog up nearly as much as the vallejo stuff.
Also picked up some micro Mark nippers a few months ago after watching your video on them. Keep it up!
Thanks buddy
Great results....double the paint volume after thinning for a fraction of the price of model paints. These techniques open up so many possibilities to any on a budget.
Can you adopt me? You’re like the cool role model father I never had 😂
Anytime, I'll start the paperwork 😉 thanks buddy you made my day. Another video is coming in a couple days. The learning never stops 👍
@@barbatosrex9473 please do the same for me
Rex, I won't ask too, because I'm old enough to be your dad.
The Harbor Freight airbrush uses the same fittings as Badger. I wouldn't run anything but water based acrylics through it, the seals might not take it.
I use a hair dryer to dry the paint between sprys
I've been looking for glass jars for the HF Quick Change kit everywhere! ... no luck. Thanks for the great videos my man.
try 'American Science surplus" they have a lot of odds and ends that are useful.
Thanks for the review on these air brushes. I'm getting into model building and was curious about how to paint and this help greatly. Great video.
The reason the first color ran to the edge is because you ever sprayed it. It needs to be hair dried between coats and it works great without a primed. Because it's acrylic add a little acrylic polyurethane to enhance adhesion and durability/anti-scratch.
Its because the spoon wasn't primed, you see he sprays a primed spoon and does have an issue
What should I search for, if I want to find the polyurethane additive?
I love just catching this video as I am using cheap acrylic paint thinned with you're thinner lol learning to airbrush
Great video and I will definitely be subscribing! That black flash is killer. I bought their color shift set and never really did anything with it but now that I see how gorgeous that black flash is I have to incorporate that into some work. That is such a brilliant color. Their color shift aqua flash is another beautiful color. Great job bud
Thanks buddy and thanks for watching
That's actually pretty cool how you can just adjust the paint to air mixture and shoot it without worrying about trigger control on the airbrush I use my airbrush for guitars so I do a lot of large flat surfaces so I was worried if I get a more expensive airbrush then I'd have to take a while to learn how to control the button so I hold it down and back and just the right place and hold it perfectly steady so I can get a perfectly even coat
Paasche H sprays about the same as both the cheap externals - very rough unless spraying levelling glossy paints.
Only benefit being ease of cleaning.
Definitely prefer internal mix for better atomization - would suggest the Paasche VL if you wanted a spare work horse.
I'm looking at getting a VL for sure
Good stuff. We had a guy in a previous club to which I belonged used these with fantastic results on Manga figurines. He used plain old windshield washer fluid to thin them with great results. O wouldn't recommend that stuff for airbrushing now that I know what's in it, but I'd definitely use the homebrew thinner that you and Grumpy Modeler have showed in your respective videos.
Keep them comming love the info
Thanks buddy, many more to come
This is the best test video of these types of paints that I've seen. Some modelers can be snobs about paints. I'm glad to see that Your showing just how good some of these craft acrylics can be. Thanks for sharing and I think I'll hit the subscribe button on the way out.
Thanks buddy, welcome aboard.
This helps all I use is this type of paint and I have a cheap brush kit. And I just can't get it to spray consistently and iv tried everything I can think of. But also a lil lost cuz I'm new at this. I didn't wanna blame it on the brush if it was me.
Would love to see a video/review about the Paasche H, since you mentioned it in this video. That airbrush seems to be extremely popular and has a long history.
I will be testing that airbrush in the future. Just have to buy one 😉
You definitely need a .5 for those Extreme Sheen colors. A .3 will clog up on you or cause a sputtering with the Extreme Sheens. However a those folkart metallics do well with a .3.
You are doing a great job with your videos. Always look forward to your new ones. Very well done!
Thank you. I'm doing my best here. Many more to come 👍
The only issue I find with the new one you got compared to the other quick swap one is that you have to clean in-between paints. But the other one has plastic bottles so its not as safe to keep solvent paints.
Enjoy watching your videos...appreciate the time spent producing and uploading them to TH-cam
I painted a Estes rocket last year with the extreme sheen craft paint, using a Neo for Iwata airbrush....the Neo did a great job laying down the craft paint and the finished look was excellent....I get mixed results shooting cheap craft paint through a Paasche H ...so the Neo Iwata is my “go to” airbrush for spraying craft paint
I don’t use windshield washer fluid ...I use Liquitex as a medium
One thing I recommend is buying a cheap nail Color shaker....works great for shaking craft paint...just my 2 cents
Nail Polish shaker I meant
Like this:
www.amazon.com/dp/B08HCM5YQQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_imm_t1_w29cGbYVMEKTH
I have that shaker. I showed it off in one of my vid3a couple weeks ago with the link to buy one. They're great and come in handy.
I was showing your fantastic videos to my wife , and we both agree you have hands with a nervous twitch! HA HA
Really cool stuff! I've been trying for ages to get a good metallic/candy red finish with hobby-specific paints, and it's getting really frustrating. The only somewhat good results I've had weren't even with the airbrush, but with rattle cans (Tamiya Clear Red over gunmetal). I've spent probably $100 on various paints at this point, and still haven't quite achieved that perfect color. These cheap ones might be worth a try.
Excellent! I’ve not tried the Decoart. But I do have about 30 of the folk art craft paint including approx. a dozen of the mettalics. A friend of mine painted a truck kit with a blue color shift, and his came out great. He said he sprayed 11 mist coats until it was layered how he wanted. I like folk arts metallics, but I like folk arts Brushed Metals. I only have 3 for now, but they are sweet. More of a satin netal look. Thanks!
The Folk Art metallics spray way better over the DecoArt sheen line. The DecoArt metallics in the tubs spray better.
I guess you messed up a little with “clockwise and counterclockwise” in the beginning.
😂😂👍🏼
Soak that labeled HF bottle in a pan of water for a few hours. That should loosen up the label's adhesive for easy removal. You may have to fill the bottle with water too to keep the label submerged. I use this procedure a lot for removing labels before putting items in the dish washer.
Get a product called "goo gone" it's does an amazing job getting rid of stickers and the glue.
I bought that Paasche Beginner Airbrush kit from Hobby Lobby for $17. What a piece of junk. No paint flow even with a 50/50 mix. The spray bottle metal tip doesn’t stay connected to the airbrush body…keeps sliding out. The air hose threaded connection to the airbrush was leaking air so I used some plumbers thread tape, that fix it. But when using canned air propellant, the female threaded connector in the pressure can regulator pops off under pressure so there is no way the regulator can stay connected to the propellant can. I’ll be returning this airbrush ASAP!
Great insight, as always! Thanks!
Thanks for putting links now!!
Make sure to try adjusting the color nozzle (Needle Cone) certain thicker paints might need this open a bit more with standard thinning measurements.
about priming spoons if you have trouble with remembering use different shape spoons to tell what is what.
A note for the cheaper harbor freight bottles with the annoying stickers. Soak them in hot water for a couple mins and you should be able to easily get that crap off 👌🏻
Thanks buddy, I was about to soak it in Acetone but water will do 👍
any chance you can test this Paasche airbrush again but using the Chrome Markers in the glass jar?
I'm pretty new to your channel but I really enjoy the content.
I do have a quick question, do you happen to have a video where you have made some recommendations on airbrushes, compressors, etc?
I'm trying to find a good brush I can use to lay down primers and do larger areas for dioramas and other projects. I don't like spraying primer through my nicer iwata hp brush. I had thought about the badger patriot 105, but maybe something like this brush (the one in your video) would be better suited for something like that? I would rather invest in something that would prob last longer and has good build quality.
Welcome to the channel. I did a video test a little over a week ago about a cheap Harbor Freight airbrush that I think would be b perfect for that. Go to my channel, under videos look a few back and you will see it. I was blown away how nice that $10 airbrush is
Thanks, great review and test. I have the Paasche but have not used it much; I think I'll give it a try again.
I saw Blu3ManiC's post about the air hose at Harbor Freight but could not find it on line.
One of the reasons I haven't used the Paasche is the hassle of having to change the air hose. Can you get an adapter that changes the airbrush's small fitting so I can add a quick coupler and use it on the standard hose?
Great video! So, 60/40 - thinner to paint, then? Good note about the type of airbrush used. Also REALLY like the study of the effect of the paint over black or white primer. Very helpful!
Those color shift paint read the label it tell you exactly how to get them to shift back and forth you have to do it just like they said
Paache. Thats a name I have not heard since Pearl paint was open.
Where did you get the Procon AB from?
Can you please make a video of how to clean
Is it because the paint is so diluted the tip does not dry up there for no need for gylcerin i have yet to buy a air brush & want to use acrylics.
T.Y
In the UK on amazon with delivery it's £49.98 that's about 68.35 US, wow.👍
I just bought this kit what we're the fittings called for the compressor instead of the air can
i noticed that you used the 2 guns differently. the cheap one you kept your finger on the spray longer than you did with the more expensive one. you used the expensive properly by taking short quit sprays due to the size of the area you were spraying whereas with the cheaper one you took longer spray strokes instead of short quick ones like you did with the expensive one.
whicked just watching your advise I quickly went on eBay bought decorArt paint buy 5 get 5 free
34 pounds for 10 paints different colours from London thank you
Can you make a video about your paint booth?
I am currently looking for a new one. I did show it briefly in my complete airbrush setup video
What pressure did you use on your compressor for this airbrush?
hi...what a great video sir...i have one question, can i use levelling thinner from mr hobby to dilute the water based paint..????
Have you made a video that shows how the metallics behave with different color primers? Maybe a comparison of
Bare plastic
White
Gray
Sand/tan
Black.
It's in the planning stages.. I have enough video tests planned to carry me through spring 😉
Did you mention where to get the caps for the bottles? If you did I missed it.
Any 60° jar made for single action will work they sell them with and without the rubber black caps for the same price on amazon.
@@Blu3ManiC thats not true, I bought some jars and caps for my master ones when I was just starting out and they didn't fit at all
@@nathancarbo you bought the wrong ones there are 30 degree and 60 degree, 30 is for dual action 60 is for single
Can you provide the name or link where you got your dropper for the windshield fluid?
How do you think one of these cheap brushes would handle PVA (elmer's) and water?
Check out my other video on the $10 Harbo Freight airbrush, that one would be better for what you're looking for
I bought this one and used a can compressor... didn't work too well 😒
Morning mate. Another good and informative vid. May I ask a question? I see that you were using a "trigger" airbrush (sorry I don't know the correct name for it). I'm looking to get a new airbrush and I've looked at a "trigger" type but I'm not sure as to whether they're any good or they're for a more experienced modeler? I have 2 of the top button type and like them but I'm always looking for a new challenge. Any advice greatly appreciated my friend....
They perform the same just feel different. I started on a trigger type then switched. But it's mostly a preference of comfort. I would get one for sure, I love mine. Get one with a handle is my one recommendation
@@barbatosrex9473 Thanks a lot , I'll give one a try.
I love your video series on those craft paints so much, very informative! and i have been playing around with those paints as well but it seems that i can never get a great coverage from craft paints unless putting a very thick layer on it. I feel like i need to build up the paint for probably around 0.1 mm to fully cover the color of primer (just feels super thick anyways primer coat and paint coat together, i use Vallejo gray primer btw), and usually matt color dries thicker. Do you guys have any solutions or suggestions? a thick layer of paint is just very annoying especially on an HG gundam model. Thanks!
Have you tried thinning it like I do just not as much for brushing?
Did you try the extreme sheen over a black base? I didn't see it in the video, but I'm curious if the extreme sheen is transparent enough to spray over the alclad gloss black base
Can this spray alclad primer
Yes it sprays it pretty good too
I just picked up a few of these colors and per your video I got great results...thank you! I also picked up the Creatax 4030 balancing Clear for my Wicked Colors. Do you think it could also work with theae craft store paints as well?
It should work fine. Just a couple drops
the black flash color shift looks really nice, do you think it would work as a candy base for clear colors?
I would say yes 👍
Great video. I think over the black primer those colors really popped. How much is the procon airbrush?
Around $100. Best airbrush I've ever owned. I have links in my airbrush set up video
What are the plastic spoons actually used for when you paint them ????????
It's just an inexpensive way of testing paint on plastic. I keep them as a resource when I'm looking for a certain color. I have well over a thousand paints most of which I will be testing for the channel. That way I don't have to paint model parts as I would run out of kits. Check an older video, I show my paint collection. I think I show it in my spray booth video
@@barbatosrex9473 thanks it's kinda like paint cards for wall paint lol
@@henrysscrollsawworks6917 exactly 👍
What gloss coat did you use
Could you test one of those battery powered airbrush?
It's on the list of future videos 👍
I just bought this airbrush kit today… I’m new to this. What kind of compressor or pressure can should I use with this?
Depending on your budget, how much can you spend on one?
@@barbatosrex9473 the cheapest one that’ll work with this kit lol. I don’t need anything to expensive.
@@Mommymodex3 This one for $65 is great and can be used with any airbrush you get going forward. amzn.to/3H8GuuK
other than this you'll have to look into a cheap portable one. If that's what you want search portable airbrush compressor on Amazon ,but at around $45 you're better off with the one I suggested above. It's way worth the extra $15
Instagram link don’t work?
Thanks, I'll fix it
did you ever have any luck with the cheapest black and red HF "airbrush" and the cheap paint?
Yes, the cheap Craft paints worked great in the $10 airbrush
@@barbatosrex9473 awesome! thank you!! this will make my projects a little easier. especially with the WW fluid! never thought to use that with these paints!
what did you thin these paints with ? thanks
Windshield washer fluid
Get a psyche H rather than the $20 version it will last forever.
Great Video but you move around WAY to fast when you're doing close-ups
Ha ... Got mine for 17.99 ...
I'm i the only one still not able to get mine to work. Still only blows air no paint
What equipment are you using? Airbrush and size? Air pressure?
@@barbatosrex9473 and kind your using in this video. Got a compressed air canister. Sprays air but nothing else
@@Akai-Shade just air and no paint means either paint isn't thin enough, the needle and nozzle of your airbrush is too small or you need more air pressure
its not a big thing to have to thin paint, you cant say to reduce it by 50% or what ever you did. you should start talking about viscosity cause all air brushes are different and the air pressure at the tip has a lot to do with the atomization also some colors are different viscositys then others as well as brands of paint
not bad but i just fell like for 2 dollars you might as well spend the extra buck and get you self some tamia mr hobby or vallejo paints
Sorry - can't go with you on this. If you want a cheap but effective brush, track down a Paasche VLS double action - the Paasche H is a terrible single action - it's external mix. The VLS is maybe an extra $15. You can use any paints, but why? I use Blick cheapos for hand brushing dios, but wouldn't think of using it on styrene. I doubt those craft paints use a true metallic pigment - mica is much more likely and they just don't make it. Vallejo makes great water based acrylic paints and one bottle will do several models. False economy.
Except that there are those of us whos economy needs to be as “false” as possible… cheap paints for cheap models..
It’s a reality…
This is an adult hobby now - not like the 60s when kids bought Aurora kits in drugstores. You can buy a Paasche VLS, Paasche Talon or Iwata Neo (without accessories etc) for under $70. A basic compressor made for nail work will give you an honest 20psi - enough. Unlike the Asian cheapo airbrushes you're not going to have miniature nozzles that are really hard to clean - or easy to break. The Master air compressor on Amazon is well rated and goes for about $80 including it's el cheapo brush.
As far as paint goes - a quality craft paint goes for about $2 for 4 ounces. The best water based acrylic (in my view) is Golden High Flow and it goes $3 for 1 ounce - but 1 ounce paints a lot of plastic and it is far better paint on the surface and in the airbrush. Tamiya acrylic paints - which are very good for beginners - are very close in cost - even the little bottles will cover a lot of plastic. If someone really is broke - buy some Vallejo or Golden fluid acrylics and paint your kit by hand - the kids in the 60s never heard of airbrushes and had to use enamels. Again, I just don't think craft paints are made for styrene - they're certainly fine for dios though. Might add that I've tried craft paints and know perfectly well how to thin them (Golden Airbrush Medium) and no way are they as good as an artist grade paint like Golden or Vallejo, or a reputable model paint like Tamiya or Gunze.
after 7 minutes of blah blah blah i stopped watching, get to the point already!
Shorten your videos man, unless you wish to address nuts
Thanks for taking the time and effort to show us the difference between the airbrush and the spray cans 👍🏼👍🏼
Hi, thx for the advise of the psi for vallejo, great videos, I found a brand called Golden, that have a line name high flow paint, that work on airbrush, do you mind take a look?
Sure, do you have a link to them for me?
@@barbatosrex9473 sure, I send it to you on your Instagram , I couldn't figure it how to share it here
@barbatos_rex I saw the Golden line of paints at the JOANN chain in-store. More expensive, but I guess the results will tell the full story!
@@barbatosrex9473 You can get Golden at any Michaels or Hobby Lobby in NE. I used to work for Alvin & Co. and we carried it as well :) It is high grade airbrush artist paint (expensive too) with super fine pigment but as it is intended for paper or fabric there is next to no binders so adheres poorly to plastic. I got a bunch on sale when A.C Moore closed, love the colors otherwise.
Acetone or LA'S TOTALLY AWESOME (tm) will remove stickers and residue.
Have you tried shooting gold over red? I heard that red is the paint of choice for when people restore gilded objects. They mentioned that the red under the gold leaf produces a warmer gold.
I've been Airbrushing for a long time been wanting an airbrush with a Mac valve but did not want to spend 2 to 300 dollers on an iwata. So I went on. eBay seen an AB for 26.00 Mac valve said what the hell pulled the trigger iam impressed . Um looks more or less than the name brand one
. It's a point zero if I had had a. AB like this o. The past wow . Oh on. Your acrylics I've used auto air. Paints in the past and had their thinner left over I picked up some craft paint from Walmart deco or Americans don't rem but I thinned those paints with autoair paint thinner and they covered real good and flowed quit nisce out of the neo I was using o had to mix some 6o get the RAL lift colors but the auto air thinner works nice way better than Windex or any u home made stuff .
My compressor delivers 20psi and 4-7l air. Is that enough for this airbrush gun? I want to use this airbrush gun for 2k paint. What do you think about it?
So intersting Don Yost the famous deceased ol man car modeler used the Pasche instead of a really good airbrush...but he only sprayed enamels
Excellent test. Thanks for sharing your videos and knowledge 😊 Artie
Wow I would have never grabbed the galvanize tin if I didn't see this.
Thanks for doing the hard work of testing all these various products. Just a thought concerning these paints and the Paasche, maybe the manufacturer didn't put very much glycerin (retarter), if any, in the paints because they intended for them to be brushed on. Mixing in some retarter or flow improver might be a benefit here. Also, reducing the air pressure might help with a siphon feed gun because it will slow down the drying action during spraying. Just some thoughts.
Really love your channel; I've learned a lot from watching.
Black is the ideal primer if you want to paint silver.
I used 50 50 mix of future floor polish and paint
Methonal;poisoness; cannot be made non poisonous
Do you have any tips if it doesn’t come out
TIP*
If you put the back of your hand up to your filter, you will feel a draft, turn your palm to face the filter wipe a damp cloth on the back of your hand and you will still feel the air crossing the back of your hand and going between your fingers. If you are spraying and your airbrush is not a dual type brush, when you need air across the spoon to help it dry, move the spoon almost up against the filter and it will draw air across the spoon and help dry the paint enough to do your next coat. I am not saying to face the filter with the painted side of the spoon, I am saying to face the unpainted side of the spoon up against the filter and it will draw air across the painted side. Way better than blowing on it with your mouth and also better than waiting for it to dry enough on it's own. It is a consistent steady flow of air but not strong enough to pull the wet paint and cause it to sag or wrinkle.
The cleaner the filter the better the air draw to help dry the test paint on the spoon.
Awesome tip, thanks buddy
Another great video. Thankyou. When i started airbrushing i started with craft paints reduced with a 50/50 mix of water and glass cleaner.. worked great and dried quickly. However i had problems with craft metalics until i switched to a 0.5 needle then all was fine.
You have to go to 5mm for sure as seen here
Do you think the Harbor Freight gun would run automotive clear coat?
I believe so. Someone here wrote and said that's what they do with theirs
I hate labels too! Try using a hairdryer to warm up the adhesive prior to peeling.
Yes, that's what I've been doing. Works great. Lately many of my paints coming in have warning stickers over the paint instructions and that drives me nuts
That airbrush is junk.
Hello what a great vid for comparison. How about clear coats for car models? What’s your best choice?
I favor 2K but Mr Color clears are very good
Thank You very much for the info, your vids are so educational thank you for taking the time to do these. I have learned a lot. @@barbatosrex9473
I have the DecoArt ice blue metallic and I airbrushed it on and it looks great but I do want to gloss coat it. What do you suggest?
Duraclear Gloss coat. I did a video on it last month
@@barbatosrex9473 ok. Thanks. I saw that video but I didn't know if you were using that exclusively. I tried it and didn't mix it right I think because it didn't level right. I mixed it to milk consistency.