I want to see this man explain every single Tormek jig cause he does a so much better job than the official Tormek dudes with their dumb, live-streamed "sharpening class" where they take ages to get to any sort of point and then keep taking breaks for "live questions" etc. In fact *he does a better job than the Tormek **_handbook._*
Have to agree he was a very good demonstrator of the tool and its functions. The Tormek guys are good it just takes them longer to get to the point. They could learn a few delivery tricks from this gentleman keep the godd stuff coming brand new with the Tormek T 8.
@@falxonPSN So what? Do you hate voluntary exchange or would you prefer a stiff, tyrranical, totalitarian government telling us what we should watch and what we should buy? We have major issues with corruption in our system and even the fiat dollar, (a fiat dollar is unconstitutional and only the government can issue gold and silver backed currency) has been corrupted. But make no mistake, a true free market free of corruption raises all boats.
When mine was delivered i opened the packaging and amongst it all was a pack of plasters. My wife laughed. After the first chisel which was perfect i found out why they put the plasters in the package, you don't even feel it when it goes across your palm
Awesome tools, I had one, but sold it as you need to book time off work to reshape a bowl gouge on a Tormek. Went to CBN wheels. Much cheaper, very fast and in the winter in the shop the water doesn’t freeze and crack the stone
Some time ago, i saw this video and said to myself. This must be some trickery involved in this. It can't be that easy. It must be fake. So i did the only logical thing i could think of, and that was to go out and buy myself a tormek. Ended up with the T4. I had no background in sharpening anything from before and with this machine. I managed to sharpen all my chisels and all my kitchen knives to the point where i can shave paper. Its crazy how easy it is to use this machine and how sharp you can get your tools and knives. My brothers chisels all looked like they fought a tank and lost Way worse than the one in the video. Managed to get them all restored and sharper than when they came from the store. But didn't help much as my brother is useless and ruined them again within a week
In reality it takes a lot of fiddling with the jig and the guide rail to make sure that the chisel is ground perfectly square. I love my Tormek but it's not as easy as they make it look in the demos!
@@midjetville you completely right about fiddling with the jig, struggling to get it square, need to be constantly adjusting the left and right knob to try and get it square. Still looking for a perfect solution, might try the diamond stone with the new jig. Any recommendation these days?
@@midjetville indeed, I'll have a look on the woodpeckers. I probably buy the diamond wheel as well with the "new" jig, since you can sharpen on the side of the wheel, giving flat and hopefully a easy squared chisel, would use it for knifes and other stuff too.
You must be physically or mentally handicapped. It takes me about 30 seconds to put a chisel into the jig, and about 30 seconds to set the angle. The only thing that takes longer is hand plane blades because they're so thin.
@@buckhorncortez not handicapped, at least as far as I can tell! If you’re sharpening e.g. a jointer plane blade which is wider than the stone and must also be perfectly square to the sides, it’s pretty difficult to get it perfect. Of course the definition of “perfect” varies between wodworkers, mine is closer to a machinist’s definition. I use my Tormek probably thirty times per day to sharpen chisels and plane blades, so I’m not knocking it - but if you think you can just throw a chisel in the jig and have it come out exactly square to the sides on your first attempt you’re kidding yourself. Obviously when you do it as frequently as I do, you get the feel for the adjustment knobs’ sensitivities and it becomes faster, but I’ve seen many new Tormek users get frustrated by this.
Yes, Jim I agree. Encountered similar problems in getting the "square". Having a major problem with the small knife jig to properly hold the knife and attain parallel.
I have the t3 and it certainly is an amazing tool .. I still use a stone to flatten off after using but this is not essential the chisel/plane iron is ready to go straight off the leather wheel.
How much is the cheapest model? All I seem to find is 500$ +, doesn't the stone need replacing after awhile? I mean he is taking off layers to refine and flatten the stone... And then he mentions you never need to worry about anything on the machine. lolz.
I just received my new Tormek T8 after decades of sharpening, not without some degree of success, with high speed grinder plus jig, followed by soft and hard black Arkansas stones, then leather hand strop. Am I to understand that once mastered, the Tormek (equipped with their "standard" grinding wheel and grader, along with leather honing wheel) will potentially eliminate the need for my sharpening stones as a final step? As to required degree of sharpness, I am a professional finish carpenter working to a higher than average quality standard, yet on occasion do a bit of fine woodworking for special clients and family. Chisels and plane irons are almost my sole concern. My preliminary studies lead me to believe that Tormek alone will be fine for carpentry, and that use of my stones (or other types) could still be worthwhile for furniture work. Am I on the right track?
I hate people damaging well useable tools just to fix them. But hell... people who love rather sharpening then doing real work, are tormeks best friends...
Or you can sharpen your tools and knives on a belt sander on low speed setting. I do sharpen knives professionaly and I use Trizact belts up to A6 grit. Then kangaroo leather with diamond paste or CBN or diamond spray. No damage from the the heat and leaves a flat bevel.
Learn a little more, Joseph. I can sharpen much faster than that with my T8, usually about 10 minutes. You have to figure the angle. It helps to magic marker the bevel, if you are not sure. Wish you well.
Hi! This is the SG-250 Original Grindstone which has adjustable sharpening characteristics equivalent to between 220 - 1000 grit. Read more about it here: tormek.com/en/products/grinding-wheels/original-grindstones/sg-250-original-grindstone or compare here: tormek.com/en/knowledge/the-tormek-way-of-sharpening/grinding-wheels-guide
Then either reset the tool being sharpened at 30 degrees and put the micro-bevel on it, or finish the micro-bevel on a whetstone or water stone. You really couldn't figure that out for yourself and you're using sharp tools? That's a scary thought...
I have a set or Marple chisels from Sheffield England. Yhep, they are the real thing. Not that cheap Irwin crap. The sides of the chisels are not perpendicular to the cutting edge. How do I use the Tormek chisel holder to hold these? Is there some type of adapter?
I have a T8 and original English Marple Chisles - all I did was use the truing jig to ensure the wheel is truely paralell to the guide arm. Then I use a tiny 3" engineer square to ensure my chisle edge is square to the jig. Works every time.
Sure, you can sharpen twist drills on the Tormek. It's no different than a regular circular wheel metal grinder, it only has a larger grinding wheel, water cooling, and the original stone can be graded coarse or fine.
It's a investment in quality 🤩 Tormek is the original sharpening system with top quality products that probably will serve you for the rest of your life. Made in Sweden with 8 years warranty. Stay Sharp!
I have a tormek and if you grind a blunt or damaged chisel the angel (lets say 25 degrees) will be slightly concav because the stone is round and it will leave a rounded bevel on your tool if you grind it. So far NO expert has been able to tell me I am wrong about this, even Chris Pye, who is a renowned master carver from the United Kingdom, agrees with this! The best way to grind an edged tool is to use a flat stone or use the side of the tormek machine to achieve a uniformed straight angle !
How important is a perfectly straight bevel on the angled side? There are lot's of people putting secondary bevels on their chisels even making it convex. Mostly to speed up sharpening or in rare cases for special cutting needs. This stone makes it slightly concave. So? The reference plane is the flat side on the back.
The word you are looking for is a hollow grind, and many people do infact prefer a hollow grind over a straight grind. Like it's dumb to do it like in this video in real life, grind the chisel and polish it every time it needs a tuneup. No what you do is you grind the chisel so it has the hollow grind, this then allows you to really easily place the chisel on a honing stone and sharpen it. Because only the two edges of the bevel touch the stone you don't have to remove a lot of material to hone the chisel to sharpness, and when the two edges touch the stone, you automatically have the correct angle, very easy to then keep honing your chisel by hand, without jigs. Only when you need to rest the bevel or grind out damage is when you need a tormek. I have a sandstone wheel grinder that has a wheel twice as large as the tormek.
As a wood carver I'm a big fan of Chris Pye myself, but I don't think the concave bevel matters in practice. The curvature of a 250mm wheel (like the Tormek) over a 10mm long bevel gives a curved profile that's just 0.1mm off straight in the middle. I.e. about 1-2 times the thickness of a human hair. However, even if this could be felt when working (and I know I can't!) any such differences will be undetectable once you've changed the blade shape further after a couple of strops. So in the end, I wouldn't worry about it.
Heyyyyyy, it’s ummmm…. Jeff? I think his name is, from Woodpeckers!!! Haha Edit: duh it’s Jeff, his name tag only says it right in front of you dummy lol
I think it's difficult to see in the video how polished it is. But if you use the fine side of the SP-650 on the SG-250 and the hone it properly you will get a really nice finish. If you want a perfect mirror finish on your tools I recommend the Japanese Waterstone. Stay sharp!
@@TormekSharpening I have all three. Need to upgrade to the diamond ones. While I have you, my grey stone is wearing really fast at one section of the stone.
Best presentation on how to use a Tormek on TH-cam. Thank you sir!
I want to see this man explain every single Tormek jig cause he does a so much better job than the official Tormek dudes with their dumb, live-streamed "sharpening class" where they take ages to get to any sort of point and then keep taking breaks for "live questions" etc.
In fact *he does a better job than the Tormek **_handbook._*
Hi! Glad you found a video that suits your style of learning :)
Stay sharp!
@@TormekSharpening seriously agree!! This guy should show folks all the jigs and tools
Have to agree he was a very good demonstrator of the tool and its functions. The Tormek guys are good it just takes them longer to get to the point. They could learn a few delivery tricks from this gentleman keep the godd stuff coming brand new with the Tormek T 8.
The old man who bcm a host he really know how to interviewing people.. Very profesional with good attitude ☺👍👍
I have owned the t8 for 3 months now and wow I have zero regrets, its truly great!
So glad to hear! Hopefully it will serve you for your entire life :D Stay sharp!
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Thank you sir, you gave a great demonstration of the ability of the machine and how to use it
We are happy to hear that you like the video!
Honestly, this was a joy to watch. Thinking of adding of these beauties to my bench later on.
Love to hear it Nicholas! Stay sharp! :D
I love my tormek, makes my wood turning tools new every time.
its very costy ....it would be about 1000 usd
@@JAKUB1972 Get the T4 Bushcraft version, it's smaller and a lot less expensive but does the same job.
To each his own. I like the video and think the man did an amazing job!
"you'll never be able to fix that" straight from a infomercial script.
I cringed...
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Why?
@@ThekiBoran because this whole thing is a thinly veiled advertisement.
@@falxonPSN
So what? Do you hate voluntary exchange or would you prefer a stiff, tyrranical, totalitarian government telling us what we should watch and what we should buy?
We have major issues with corruption in our system and even the fiat dollar, (a fiat dollar is unconstitutional and only the government can issue gold and silver backed currency) has been corrupted. But make no mistake, a true free market free of corruption raises all boats.
@@falxonPSN It's uploaded by Tormek, what the hell did you expect?
Now that man knows how to use a tormek
He’s a salesman.
Excellent video, thanks.
When mine was delivered i opened the packaging and amongst it all was a pack of plasters. My wife laughed. After the first chisel which was perfect i found out why they put the plasters in the package, you don't even feel it when it goes across your palm
What is "plasters?"
@@michaell7877 to put on cuts...band aids
@@michaell7877 bandages , band-aids
Awesome tools, I had one, but sold it as you need to book time off work to reshape a bowl gouge on a Tormek. Went to CBN wheels. Much cheaper, very fast and in the winter in the shop the water doesn’t freeze and crack the stone
LOL
Then put CBN wheels on the Tormek. That's what I did with mine.
Some time ago, i saw this video and said to myself. This must be some trickery involved in this. It can't be that easy. It must be fake. So i did the only logical thing i could think of, and that was to go out and buy myself a tormek. Ended up with the T4. I had no background in sharpening anything from before and with this machine. I managed to sharpen all my chisels and all my kitchen knives to the point where i can shave paper. Its crazy how easy it is to use this machine and how sharp you can get your tools and knives. My brothers chisels all looked like they fought a tank and lost Way worse than the one in the video. Managed to get them all restored and sharper than when they came from the store. But didn't help much as my brother is useless and ruined them again within a week
Hej glowpipe,
we are happy to hear you like your Tormek T-4 and find it easy to get sharp results 😎
Stay sharp and safe!
In reality it takes a lot of fiddling with the jig and the guide rail to make sure that the chisel is ground perfectly square. I love my Tormek but it's not as easy as they make it look in the demos!
@@midjetville you completely right about fiddling with the jig, struggling to get it square, need to be constantly adjusting the left and right knob to try and get it square. Still looking for a perfect solution, might try the diamond stone with the new jig. Any recommendation these days?
@@midjetville indeed, I'll have a look on the woodpeckers.
I probably buy the diamond wheel as well with the "new" jig, since you can sharpen on the side of the wheel, giving flat and hopefully a easy squared chisel, would use it for knifes and other stuff too.
You must be physically or mentally handicapped. It takes me about 30 seconds to put a chisel into the jig, and about 30 seconds to set the angle. The only thing that takes longer is hand plane blades because they're so thin.
@@buckhorncortez not handicapped, at least as far as I can tell!
If you’re sharpening e.g. a jointer plane blade which is wider than the stone and must also be perfectly square to the sides, it’s pretty difficult to get it perfect.
Of course the definition of “perfect” varies between wodworkers, mine is closer to a machinist’s definition.
I use my Tormek probably thirty times per day to sharpen chisels and plane blades,
so I’m not knocking it - but if you think you can just throw a chisel in the jig and have it come out exactly square to the sides on your first attempt you’re kidding yourself.
Obviously when you do it as frequently as I do, you get the feel for the adjustment knobs’ sensitivities and it becomes faster, but I’ve seen many new Tormek users get frustrated by this.
Yes, Jim I agree. Encountered similar problems in getting the "square". Having a major problem with the small knife jig to properly hold the knife and attain parallel.
Ah, that good old standby ... the mother-in-law remark.
is this the same guy that does all the woodpeckers videos nowadays??
Hej Jamie, we don't know.
I have the t3 and it certainly is an amazing tool .. I still use a stone to flatten off after using but this is not essential the chisel/plane iron is ready to go straight off the leather wheel.
Hi Mr Monster, each to there own ... hows you my man?
She is back on her feet and having physio at the moment, thanks for asking how is things with you and your family my friend?
Keep it up my friend you do a great job ... im in awe.
Beautiful haha
How much is the cheapest model? All I seem to find is 500$ +, doesn't the stone need replacing after awhile? I mean he is taking off layers to refine and flatten the stone... And then he mentions you never need to worry about anything on the machine. lolz.
I just received my new Tormek T8 after decades of sharpening, not without some degree of success, with high speed grinder plus jig, followed by soft and hard black Arkansas stones, then leather hand strop. Am I to understand that once mastered, the Tormek (equipped with their "standard" grinding wheel and grader, along with leather honing wheel) will potentially eliminate the need for my sharpening stones as a final step? As to required degree of sharpness, I am a professional finish carpenter working to a higher than average quality standard, yet on occasion do a bit of fine woodworking for special clients and family. Chisels and plane irons are almost my sole concern. My preliminary studies lead me to believe that Tormek alone will be fine for carpentry, and that use of my stones (or other types) could still be worthwhile for furniture work. Am I on the right track?
i need one of those...
wonderfull video
and here i thought Don Knotts died years ago... apparently he's hosting youtube videos now.
Lovely
Thanks!
fck my life... I bought now the t4 tormek... Jeff you made it to buy that maschine ... how can I tell it my wife without getting in trouble LOL
If shes into cooking, buy a knife jig for it, 'accidentaly' destroy her knifes edges, and show her how to use it, make her she the value of it
I hate people damaging well useable tools just to fix them. But hell... people who love rather sharpening then doing real work, are tormeks best friends...
It's a demonstration, do you not understand that? You might want to talk to a therapist.
I am one Lottery win away from buying that sumbich...
Sooo nice
So, is Jeff Ferris with Tormek or with Woodpeckers? :-p
Good question.
What if you want to but a micro bevel on the chisel
You still can, just adjust the tool guide a tad.
Pretty
Thank you very much!
Or you can sharpen your tools and knives on a belt sander on low speed setting. I do sharpen knives professionaly and I use Trizact belts up to A6 grit. Then kangaroo leather with diamond paste or CBN or diamond spray. No damage from the the heat and leaves a flat bevel.
And it's only around 1000 without the extras.
Super !!!
I love mine
Could you use the sharpening jig with a piece of wet and dry lying on a flat piece of glass ?
Why would you do that if you have a Tormek?
The first time on each knife takes at least an hour after you have it set then two minutes might be realistic
Do you use an unsharpened blank? Or do you use the 4000 grit Japanese Waterstone to sharpen?
Maybe you should switch it on before using it...
Learn a little more, Joseph. I can sharpen much faster than that with my T8, usually about 10 minutes. You have to figure the angle. It helps to magic marker the bevel, if you are not sure. Wish you well.
What grade of stone were you using ?
Hi! This is the SG-250 Original Grindstone which has adjustable sharpening characteristics equivalent to between 220 - 1000 grit. Read more about it here: tormek.com/en/products/grinding-wheels/original-grindstones/sg-250-original-grindstone
or compare here: tormek.com/en/knowledge/the-tormek-way-of-sharpening/grinding-wheels-guide
Wonderful invention, but I can not afford it by now
Then don't buy it...
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Hej Limou87, Thank you!
No need for a secondary bevel at 30 degrees how I was told?
why would you even want a second or micro bevel... do it right the first time and there is no need for that dumb stuff
@@user-pm7pw1tl3t Well it doesn't sound dumb as it requires less metal removal when sharpening after setting the main bevel at 25 degrees.
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Are you an apprentice or a diy'er?
Then either reset the tool being sharpened at 30 degrees and put the micro-bevel on it, or finish the micro-bevel on a whetstone or water stone. You really couldn't figure that out for yourself and you're using sharp tools? That's a scary thought...
What is wrong if the tormek dont make 90degree angel on a chisel ? my stone is perfekt and straight. What kan be wrong ?
Then it's YOUR fault for using the Tormek incorrectly.
I have a set or Marple chisels from Sheffield England. Yhep, they are the real thing. Not that cheap Irwin crap. The sides of the chisels are not perpendicular to the cutting edge. How do I use the Tormek chisel holder to hold these? Is there some type of adapter?
I have a T8 and original English Marple Chisles - all I did was use the truing jig to ensure the wheel is truely paralell to the guide arm. Then I use a tiny 3" engineer square to ensure my chisle edge is square to the jig.
Works every time.
I have a set of four still in package from Sheffield England.
I've had great luck in finding vintage Marples chisels cheap....the downside is, i respect the tool too much to do a cheap job on sharpening them
I need to sharpen metal cutting chisels normally called cold chisels.Can I use this too to do this ?
Did you find out?
Sure, you can sharpen twist drills on the Tormek. It's no different than a regular circular wheel metal grinder, it only has a larger grinding wheel, water cooling, and the original stone can be graded coarse or fine.
Nice tool, can't afford it.
mu thoughts...better to try old methods. would like to hire a maid too......''can't afford it''.
Onde comprar este torno
Esta es una maquina para afilar cinceles y herramientas de torno.
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Could you use lapping fluid instead of the water for the stone?
Why would anyone want to use lapping fluid in place of water?
I mean, water is free, lapping fluid is costly.
RB seen a few people on different videos saying that water causes tools to rust, that’s why I mentioned it.
@@gavjav1 Not if you wipe it dry.
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It's a investment in quality 🤩 Tormek is the original sharpening system with top quality products that probably will serve you for the rest of your life. Made in Sweden with 8 years warranty. Stay Sharp!
@@TormekSharpening kisaran 10 juta.alamakk dapat motor maticc 🤣
I have a tormek and if you grind a blunt or damaged chisel the angel (lets say 25 degrees) will be slightly concav because the stone is round and it will leave a rounded bevel on your tool if you grind it. So far NO expert has been able to tell me I am wrong about this, even Chris Pye, who is a renowned master carver from the United Kingdom, agrees with this! The best way to grind an edged tool is to use a flat stone or use the side of the tormek machine to achieve a uniformed straight angle !
How important is a perfectly straight bevel on the angled side? There are lot's of people putting secondary bevels on their chisels even making it convex. Mostly to speed up sharpening or in rare cases for special cutting needs. This stone makes it slightly concave. So? The reference plane is the flat side on the back.
The word you are looking for is a hollow grind, and many people do infact prefer a hollow grind over a straight grind. Like it's dumb to do it like in this video in real life, grind the chisel and polish it every time it needs a tuneup. No what you do is you grind the chisel so it has the hollow grind, this then allows you to really easily place the chisel on a honing stone and sharpen it.
Because only the two edges of the bevel touch the stone you don't have to remove a lot of material to hone the chisel to sharpness, and when the two edges touch the stone, you automatically have the correct angle, very easy to then keep honing your chisel by hand, without jigs. Only when you need to rest the bevel or grind out damage is when you need a tormek.
I have a sandstone wheel grinder that has a wheel twice as large as the tormek.
@@1873Winchester Exactly.
1873Winchester A hollow grind is only for the reverse side of the chisel face, not the cutting edge.
As a wood carver I'm a big fan of Chris Pye myself, but I don't think the concave bevel matters in practice. The curvature of a 250mm wheel (like the Tormek) over a 10mm long bevel gives a curved profile that's just 0.1mm off straight in the middle. I.e. about 1-2 times the thickness of a human hair. However, even if this could be felt when working (and I know I can't!) any such differences will be undetectable once you've changed the blade shape further after a couple of strops. So in the end, I wouldn't worry about it.
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Wen is just as good and a lot cheaper
Wen is made in China. I avoid Chinese-made products when possible, I don't care about price.
@@ThekiBoran I try and buy all Chinese not the over priced American stuff
@@colemahaney880
You're stupid.
@@ThekiBoran look who is calling someone stupid .
@@colemahaney880
I am handsome, yes?
Heyyyyyy, it’s ummmm…. Jeff? I think his name is, from Woodpeckers!!! Haha
Edit: duh it’s Jeff, his name tag only says it right in front of you dummy lol
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The presenter is over the top. Expensive at about £450. when you can use a dimond stone.
With a Tormek you can not only sharpen a chisel but also all other edge tools you have at home or in your workhop 😉
You spelling
A tool will not come off that stone that polished. If it does, they sold me different stones.
I think it's difficult to see in the video how polished it is. But if you use the fine side of the SP-650 on the SG-250 and the hone it properly you will get a really nice finish. If you want a perfect mirror finish on your tools I recommend the Japanese Waterstone. Stay sharp!
@@TormekSharpening I have all three. Need to upgrade to the diamond ones. While I have you, my grey stone is wearing really fast at one section of the stone.
@@snipper1ie Sounds strange. Please contact support@tormek.se and they will help you. Please send pictures also if possible.
@@TormekSharpening Thank you
I couldn't listen to the guy in the hat any longer, turned off at 30 seconds.
Stop being a poopy head.
Just $900.00! A bargain, lol.
true dat, but definately worth the money!
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