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Hi Jason: I wanted to express a public note of appreciation for your excellent, comprehensive reviews and for your responsiveness to your subscribers. You have helped many folks make wise, informed decisions about their portable power station purchases.
Dare I say you are the Project Farm of Power Stations. I love your testing regiment and very objective/factual analysis. Please never change. This format is why you’re soon to be #2 in the lithium world behind God Emperor William Errol Prowse IV
The only thing I wish you would add (and this is not possible until you get some major financial backing) is a tear down with analysis of battery pack/BMS, inverter, DC board (I love PD controller IC’s), MPPT and internal AC charger. I’d love to see you pull the battery pack out identify the cells, pack configuration and commentary on how the voltage choice affects conversion efficiencies kinda like you did here I’m very curious to see who is using prismatic cells/pouches/cylindrical. I would assume the big boys have to be prismatic or pouch to save on space. I can’t imagine cylindrical 32700 cells or even some “non standard” sizes like big 15Ah cells are small enough/light enough to beat 8 75Ah cells this thing likely has. 3.2*8=25.6*75=1920wh is how I got 8S1P 75Ah cells. Could be pouch because I know 75Ah LiFeP04 pouch cells exist.
Just purchased this 2 weeks ago. Very portable with the trolley they sell in the solar kit. Very impressive and no worries for my wife while I’m at work at night. Hurricane Michael made her a believer when I pulled out my 5kw gen that kept us going for 11 days. I figured this will at the very least will save fuel cost on a gas generator. Awesome technology.
Hurricane Ian just left us last night. Only suffered 11 hour power outage, but I can tell you, my small Bluetti barely cut it for just a router. Looking to upgrade today. Your videos really make that process easier. Thank you for all your work.
I've been thinking about my viewers from Florida this whole week! I hope you made it through without too much damage! There are lots of options available to help with power outages luckily!
Small systems get used up FAST. I now have an Oupes 1800 and a few smaller units - a Bluetti EB55, Bluetti EB3a and a smaller unit good for a fan or phone. Still need sun within a couple of days after an outage even with these if I expect to run a fridge for long.
A few friends have decided on this, mainly due to the option to expand. It sounds very good, I decided on a different brand that is 1800W. Many of these are hard to decide between, it comes down to what we prioritize as well as cost. Thanks for all your great reviews!
I ordered the bundle at the Pecron website. When it arrived I plugged my full sized refrigerator freezer. I was very pleased. Then I plugged in my two small freezers. Perfect. I'm very pleased with this power station and with a quick response from customer service. For me it is a great purchase.
I think this is a solid back up power or even for daily use. Im very inclined to buying this. Yes, it does not have all the bells and whistles like other big brands but it gets the job done. Excellent solar input, lipo4, very efficient and price and maybe an expansion in the future. Even better..their battery expansion seems to be able to charge on its own and has some dc outputs as well. Ecoflow delta 2 should be ashamed :)...
I bought an E3000 shortly after they were released. It failed after about 3 months, cycling each day on 4 solar panels. The company agreed to replace it with the LFP2000 and hold the difference in credit towards an expansion battery but overall the customer service was garbage. No phone number to call and no other compensation was offered for the massive inconvenience or money lost waiting. It cost me $250 to ship it back. So far, I like the new model (I got a black one) but until the expansion batteries become a reality, I'm just sitting here waiting.
This is very useful information and often common with their customer support. I ordered a 2000LFP and wasn't able to charge anywhere near "1200 watts" as advertised, after each of the 2 MPPT charge controllers got past 400 watts each with solar the unit stops charging until you re-plug them in. They claim it's a "software" issue and while I wanted my Renogy panels to work they offered a refund. Only email for communication was a pain but at least they paid return shipping! Maybe they will fix this one day, shame this review video doesn't go in depth on the PV charging, isn't that a key feature to dive into?
Very informative. The Pecron looks like an overall winner. As I'm getting up there in age, I like the fact that it is a bit smaller and only 48 pounds. Nice work Jason. One other thing...who took the very nice photo on the wall, the one with the pines in the fog? I really like it.
I like everything you tested, I’m researching on what would be the best power station for my needs, but within my budget. This video was great and loved to actually see load bearing items plugged in to get that visual.
Just ran it through Hurricane Helene and now we have another one on the gulf - great power and versatility ! I looked extensively at all the brands and Pecron delivers the best mix ! Reliable!
I just subbed your channel. You have given an excellent break down of this unit. Been in the market for a generator to use daily in a camper and I think this fits the bill. Your analysis was top notch and very understandable for us layman. Looking forward to you maybe testing with the add on batteries. I had been looking at the Bluetti ac200max but for the money I believe the pecron is the better buy as the Bluetti has a very high discharge rate at idle as seen on several other reviewers channels. Thank you for your time and effort in checking out this unit.
I've had mine for aend if DEC.bout 3 months now and love it. The EB3000 batteries are now available for pre-order. According to Amazon, they should have shipped by the
Just bought one. Customer Service has been good.. They were responsive as there was a delay on my additional charger. The delay on the charger made me I a little nervous about the additional battery roll out. Last word was they should start taking orders for the additional battery end of October with shipment of the unit the first of December.
@@Jasonoid I'm a little nervous about getting the additional battery. I feel a shut down is coming w the USA Russia conflict. December may be to late . If the conflict escalates things will shut down inc.uding shipments.
I understand the additional batteries are at the warehouse. I ordered my additional battery in November when they began taking orders. The billing of 1500.00 showed up on my November credit card bill. This was even though I had yet to receive the product. I was surprised as That is alot of money to pay in advance. When I looked back in my records, on my initial order, the same thing happened for the additional charger I ordered. I was charged for product I had yet to receive. I personally find this practice of billing before shipping the product to the customer a questionable practice. Although I like the product, based on business practices , I'm dubious about the company.
What up Doe!? WoW! amazing review Dr J' Pecron really did a good job on the advertise watt hrs to actual use of their power stations. After seeing the triple charge ability, two expandable batteries, huge solar input and great price point, I could definitely be #teampecron Thanks again👍🏻
Great review as always, so much good data to inform your decisions. This seems like a surprisingly good option with impressive output efficiency. If they switched to internal chargers they'd be a really good budget option.
Jason, really enjoy your videos. Have learned a lot!!! Can you do a test on the new E2000lfp? It now has a RV plug and want to know if they fixed the issues they have had. Thanks!!
Great review! When you pressed the AC button, and the power factor came up as 0.6, i was surprised. Most of the time you will see between 0.7 and 1 and this would mean the inverter is rated at 3333 VA. I'm guessing that the low PF is one of the reasons the unit has low parasitic losses when idling. I don't know if you checked it to see if it can actually deliver the specified 2000 watts, but that would be a useful test. That down stairs refrigerator is the gold standard test and i look at that for all of the larger generators, as that is what i use mine for:)
It passed the max load inverter test for 15 minutes @5:38 I push the inverter to the limits (2000 watts). The Power Factor number of 0.6 on the display is when the inverter had a 50 watt load on it. I think this power station is my new "budget" favorite!
Looks like Pecron has a couple of performance issues on the AC side, struggling with a large inductive load due to voltage limiting with high AC loads and noise on the line. The external power brick contributes to the compactness of the generator. Good price for this generator.
Your product reviews are top notch. You do a fantastic job of explaining all the functions of this product. I would love to see you do a video explaining how to hook up a solar panel; or how to hook up in series and parallel and to do it in the voltage range of the products. I believe you would be excellent at this. I can see it must take an enormous amount of time to conduct all the testing and to explain it with all the details. You certainly do a great job and I most certainly appreaciate your efforts. Thank you.
Hey Manny, I made a video for that question / request I get all the time. It's about choosing the right solar panel setup for your specific power station, hope it helps! th-cam.com/video/4JG8LvJznLY/w-d-xo.html
I just purchased this with your code and link. Came out to $1110 and some change with free standard shipping, not sure if the free shipping is all the time or just because of a special. but it is on sale right now for $1169 on the pecron website. I checked amazon and even with $349 off, 200 coupon and a code for 149, it would have been around $1250 after taxes and all. Now i will have a power station that can take my 4-230-watt panels in series and i can use this to charge my other power stations. Comes out to about 55 cents a wh.
As always great video. I almost bought this unit but decided against it because the solar panels I had from the competitor would not charge it due to voltage restrictions. Another deal breaker for me was that I could not use it as a UPS which I need due to power outages . I do like it though, again great information as always.
Excellent review as always. Seeking first power station 1K-2K range for off grid vehicle living full time. Excellent price and overall features but drawback is lack of UPS for electronics. Also have to check solar specs. Keep up the reviews, they will mean everything when I will need to pick one station and rely on it for my daily power needs.
Great review Jason! As others mentioned, while the Pecron doesn't have the fancy features, it does all the basics right. I personally don't need a UPS. Love that the batteries are usable and rechargeable on their own, and their pricing is great. I have EcoFlow, and wish it had some of the features of the Pecron. I'd be interested to see follow-up reviews if you decide to get the expansion batteries. BTW, looking at the expansion batteries, it appears there's no physical limit on how many you can connect since each battery has 2 ports and they're dasiy-chained. I wonder why the limitation to 2 expansion batteries only. Is it just the main unit's inability to communicate with more than 2 EBs? It'd be pretty sweet to connect, say, 4 EBs to get 14kWh!
@@Jasonoid Hi Jason. Just wanted to check in on your E2000LFP since the expansion batteries are now available. I'm curious if you ordered one or 2 to test? I bought an E2000LFP during their sale. Used your code too, so hopefully you got a little something back. Also do you plan to test their E600LFP?
@@zigzagluck Awesome! I hope I can pick up one of the expansion batteries for the E2000 early next year. How have you enjoyed it so far? I actually have the 600wh model, haven't had a chance to test it yet.
New subscriber to the channel and really enjoy your videos. I have learned a lot watching them and want to say this was a fantastic review! Been in the market for a 1k to 2W system and this power station has my attention especially with this new LFP offering. The capacity and efficiency for the price is really hard to beat. I Will likely purchase this with a couple BougeRV 200 12V 9BB panels to start. This would be a big step up from my 300W Rockpals unit with 60W portable panel😊. Primary use will be used for home fridge/freezer backup and other smaller home appliances.
Thanks Metal Tracker! This should work really well for a backup system for a full sized fridge. With 400 watts of solar you should be able to charge it up during the day and run your fridge through the night! I also like how it's expandable if you ever want to grow your system.
@@donaldricher8815 haven't really done anything with it other than unboxing, and putting the little dolly together. Mine has orange corner bumpers on it, and I thought it looked strange when I took it out, but couldn't figure our why. Then I realized the corners were orange instead of yellow. Been working a lot but have this weekend off, so may play with it a bit.
Argh, why did they not add the bidirectional inverter and UPS function that the E1500 Pro has? Then it looks like it would be perfect for its capacity size and price point. We got a direct hit from Hurricane Ian and will probably still be out of power for days if not weeks. I had been on the fence about a solar generator for months, waiting for the ‘perfect’ one. The E2000 is nearly there much like the Bluetti AC200max. Anyway when I saw Ian heading our way last Friday I jumped on Amazon and got the much smaller Bluetti E3BA along with an Allpowers 200w solar panel and accessories because they were the only things that were going to deliver before the storm hit. We have been stress testing it a lot, but so far it has kept our 28 cu ft refrigerator going and our devices charged with only 1 gallon of gas being used from a supplemental backup to top it up and run at night. Back to my original point, it is really nice being able to keep the E3BA plugged in to the fridge and everything else and just turn on the other backup power as needed without interruptions. But obviously it would be nice to have much more battery buffer and more solar capacity.
Hi Jason! I’m so glad to have picked up the E2000lfp, EB3000, and 2 E600’s. Quick question assuming you have an EB3000, I’m registering for the extra year warrantee but the box sticker is partially damaged and the unit is buried in the rv storage and I know the serial number is of course on the bottom. Could you please confirm the first four characters is WX22. I think they use the same across the unit type as my power stations all start MY22. If you could verify I’d greatly appreciate it! You are the guy when it comes to solar reviews! Thanks, Joe
Both my e2000 and e600 start with "MY". I do not have the e3000 expansion batteries. Ramblin Bob's Reviews has an e3000 expansion and you could ask him.
Hi Jason! Love the review. I've been on the fence for a few weeks with the Pecron E2000LFP + EB3000 expansion battery (roughly $2700) or the Bluetti AC300 ($3200.) Clearly, there are major difference in price, (Pecron .54c per watt vs. Bluetti $1.04 per watt) but my biggest concern is about the expansion battery. According to pictures on the Pecron website, it shows that the EB3000 has max input of 400 watt. Surely, the expansion battery can be charged by the power station and/or solar but at 400w?! To fully charge a 3072wh battery, (let's just say best case at it's max of 400w) it would take 7.5 hours from 0-100% While that sounds good to some, if you plan on charging by gas generator, it's going to take a LOT longer to top off those expansion batteries. Am I correct in this thinking or am I missing something? Also, the Pecron 2 year vs. 4 year Bluetti warranty is a big difference IMO. It's a touch call...
Hey Bucks, hard to know the exact specs on the EB3000 batteries since they aren't out yet. I should be getting an expansion battery to test with early next year so plan for a future video. As for charging speed (both with solar and AC input) and expandability the AC300 beats the E2000 by quite a bit. The AC300 also has the app connectivity and UPS functionality. Kinda comparing apples to oranges.
i agree, the bluetti would charge in less time (im getting the ac200max as my first power setup) but looking at pecron as a backup option. both with expansion battery. i dont mind the idle discharge of the ac200max vs the pecron.
I just bought the pecron e2000 and 4x 100W 12v Renogy solar panels and im trying to run the four in series into one of the DC ports but it’s not charging the pecron even during full sun. It’s showing the “charging icon” but not putting in any wattage… the only thing I can think of is that my Renogy cords won’t work- I bought a 4-way mc4 cable (one negative cable with all four negatives and one positive cable with all four positives) and then those plug into the mc4 +/- cable that pecron includes… what am I doing wrong? Do I need to run two in series together and then run the two sets of two together?
To wire in series you don't need any additional adapters, you just connect the positive of one panel to the negative of the other in a chain. This video explains it's in depth: th-cam.com/video/OZvrTuhJhXs/w-d-xo.html
@@Jasonoid thank you so much! So easy! I must have watched the wrong video originally when I bought what I thought I needed! You’re a lifesaver!! Thank you!!
Good review. I like how you save time in the review video by showing the results instead of a time lapse of the test and then the results like HoboTech does. If the unit is hooked up to AC and the battery is fully charged does the power pass through without the loss of 100 watts like you showed when it is charging?
Thabks Ron, I'm glad people noticed my "faster / efficient" process. That's my goal! 😁 When using a wall charger you have efficiency losses from 120vac to the DC power of the battery. That 100 watts or so is the loss of efficiency + running the cooling fans + the leds lights on the charger. It all adds up. Overall I think that's pretty normal, even with power stations with built in AC chargers.
Thanks for the great review Jason! I've been waiting for this one. You mentioned you were hoping for a firmware fix. How would that be applied? You didn't mention if it was wifi or BT ready. Again, thanks for reviewing this. Im 100% getting one of these and at least 1 expansion battery.
around @10:56 I do a bunch of charging tests, including the solar testing. You'll need at least two 12v solar panels in series to get charging input on the charge controller.
Hello Jason just found your station and you do a great job of explaining to us not so power smart knuckleheads. Anyhow couple dilemmas tossing round the Pec 2000 and the Bluetti max. Hard to overlook the Pec. My other issue is well water 220 volts. What and how do you think would be best way to go if neither of these units can do. Thanks in advance and will be watching. Good job 👍
Hey Dino, you'll need a bigger power station to run a 240v well pump. These 2000wh power stations (Bluetti AC200Max and Pecron E2000) only put out 120 volts so they won't be able to power that appliance. 240v power stations are getting more popular though! For example, the Zendure Superbase V was just announced and it has both 120v and 240v outputs in one power station.
Hello Jason...bought an E2000lfp and pretty satisfied after the first one was returned for no go, (Customer Service pretty good so far). I see that the EB3000 (3kwh) expansion batts are out. Want to add expansions but won't until I start seeing some reviews from my trusted UTubers. When do you think? Thanks
Jason, I need help from you and your viewers. I just purchased the E2000LFP and the EB3000 expansion battery. that gives me close to 5000 W of storage. I did a 24 hour study on my freezer and it used 2.634 kWh. does this mean I would use 2634 W of the 5000 W system in 24 hours? I purchased the Renogy 400 W suitcase and also three 200 W Renogy panels and I’m using your design of the portable adjustable solar panel mount. so I’m guessing during peak times they would produce 800 to 900 W. i’m just trying to plan if I have enough power stored if we had a multiple day blackout. Thank you!
If they can get it to 120v on the inverter. I'd really consider this. If I was in the market for a big power station. Especially with the efficiency and expandability. The 1,200w solar input is also pretty good. I'm still happy with my Bluetti EB200 though. 🤷♂️
looks like it would be decent if you wanted to have this powered by solar power and have up to 1000watts of solar for it. i think the usb limit may have been 100 watts for everything? but maybe you tested that and still only got 65 on the 100 watt port. speaking of the hurricane, my p2001 is already making it's self useful. thanks for the review 😀
Great review as usual, I always look for your reviews. Quick question, I have a E600 and wondering if my charger will work with this E2000. Looks like the same connector. I also built a DC to DC and been using it no problem off my batteries so hopefully can use that here too. Thanks so much, great job!
Thank you for the very detailed review. This was really helpful. I'm not very well versed with these and I'm wondering if this one would power my home's oil burning furnace if I were to lose power during the winter. I'm happy to know it will run the fridge.
Since the oil furnace uses oil to create heat, it doesn't use much electricty. You should be able to run your oil furnace during a power outage on the E2000. The key to getting the longest runtime possible would be to run the furnace for 30 minutes straight, then turn it off for an hour or two, then run the furnace for another 30 minutes.
Hi Jason, I received my E2000LFP today, my power supply seems to have a little damage on one of the cables. I requested another charger for this unit. Until then do you see a problem with using my E600LFP charger for this unit? Thx!
I ordered a 2000LFP about a month ago with a code from HoboTech. Issue 1; wasn't able to charge with solar anywhere near "1200 watts" as advertised, if either of the 2 MPPT charge controllers got past 400 watts, the unit stopped charging completely. Issue 2; I contacted support and they claimed it was a "software" issue, whereas I assumed x6 200watt Renogy panels would work (obv. staying under the 95V each input) they say there's no way my compatible panels will work. What??? Issue 3; Only email for communication, no phone, is a big pain but at least they paid return shipping after 2 weeks of arguing and refusing to send me a replacement! Maybe they will fix this "bug?" one day, shame this review video doesn't go in-depth on the PV charging, isn't that a key feature to dive into?
What did Hobotech say when you asked him about this same question on his channel? How do you have the panels connected? Three 200 watt panels in series on each charge controller?
@@Jasonoid Apologies, it wasn't HoboTech (though he has a couple Pecron reviews) but City Prepper who had a 10% off code, and that was the extent of that person's involvement. I have x3 Renogy 200watt (27 Open Circuit Voltage) panels in series, per input. And per Pecron, paraphrasing; even though the specs do fit the battery, I'm essentially using the wrong panels or something and there's not a lot they can do.
@@dale4413 that's a canned response you'll get from any of these manufacturers unfortunately. If you got the same issue using a bunch of their branded solar panels they probably wouldn't even know what to do. I did solar testing in my video actually. I was able to get over 1000 watts on my unit just fine in my testing using their ac power brick (which is basically a solar array) and my own solar panels plugged in. It might be an issue with your power station in particular since I didn't have issues going over 800 watts while dual charging. Can you break 1000 watts using your solar panels and AC charger dual charging?
@@Jasonoid I was able to barely break 1005watts by having roughly 600w come from the wall charger and 400w come from one solar input, but the solar specifically cuts out past 450w guaranteed, no good reason why. Let me dig up an unlisted video I sent them that shows this off...
Jason, Very curious - was the unit at roughly 40 some %, as the close-up showed, when you started the 24 test on the fridge vs. 100 %🎉 Thank-you, USMC Disabled Vet Freedom Cost Something
Some times I lose video clips so I have to use other shots to fill in the gaps. The full size fridge test was started at 100% capacity and ended near 0%.
I've been waiting for this review. Thank you for the great job. I've been eyeing this power station and waiting for more reviews. A few questions - I'm assuming that it supports pass-thru charging? (using it to power stuff while charging with solar) - Are you going to be getting some of the expandable batteries? I'm looking for something to power my small appliances in case of a power outage (mainly fridge and freezer). I also might plug it into a transfer switch to occasionally power a few circuits to lower that bill.. just a tiny tiny bit. 🙂
@@christopherellis2273 I am debating about getting an expansion battery. $1500 for 3000wh would be a decent deal, especially since they can be operated independently.
You turn on and off the AC inverter by pressing and holding the AC button. You can leave the devices plugged into the outlets even when the AC inverter is off, it only will power devices when the AC inverter is powered on.
Do you think i can run my fridge 24/7 by using solar panels connected or it will damage the battery and i should use it only for power outage? Thanks for all the help
I have e1500 pro which has the undesired batteries but has much faster charging and a 30 amp dc out. How could they let this one out the shop in that condition?
You said that two 12 volt panels should be used because the aviation ports need 32 volts minimum but that does not add up right. Am I missing something? Thanks
12v panels acutally put out around 18 volts at peak power. The naming of 12v solar panels is because they are meant for charging 12v batteries. Kinda confusing.
Hi Jason! Just curious if this would be a good option for charging my Sur ron ebike ? It’s a 6000 wat bike and just want to get a portable charger that would charge quickly/ efficiently ? Thanks
The wall charger on that bike should plug into this power station and charge without an issue. I don't know how big the Sur ron battery is but I'm guessing youd get 1 or 2 charges out of it. If you had solar panels, you could get unlimited charges from the sun.
Any thoughts on whether manufacturers are simply "downspec'ing the kWh rating to appear more efficient? Is there truly 1920kWh inside thing thing or is there 2048kWh in reality and written as 1920kWh to appear more efficient?
It could be either way I suppose. I'd rather have a spec more in line with what you actually get when using the power station. That's why I went away from calling these results "efficiency numbers" and now I just say how much power you get vs the advertised capacity. Hard to tell the true efficiency.
@@Jasonoid Thanks for the thoughts.I fully agree. I guess it doesn't matter what is truly inside, as long as advertised meets actual - that's what people really care about! Thanks for another solid review.
One test I'd like to see is set up a set of mc4 connectors to an automobile battery and see what it'll charge at now as far as I know there is nothing sent from solar panels telling the mppt charge controller that hey the power is coming from a panel and 12/24 volt DC is the same coming from a solar panel and a altinator so a 12 volt alternator putting out 14 volts 60 amps is 840 watts you're the first one to say it needs 24 volts input on the solar so you'd need a 24 volt DC charging system so since they should put out 28 volts at 100 amps so that's a whopping 2800 watts now if they would just give the option to skip the brick and give it at a lower price for those off the grid and those who have RVs there are ways to charge 24 volt DC systems from a 12 volt system and there are utube videos that show how to make a 12 volt gas powered charger the only difference is that you'd have to use a 24 volt alternator instead of a 12 volt and since there are also videos on utube for converting generators to propane natural gas or methane there are a lot of charging options available that don't use the brick after all as one utube channel put it why step up to 120 and back down to 12 volt he was talking about lights but the same applies here why use a 120 volt generator to power a brick to bring it back down to a lower voltage and in writing this what is the output voltage of the brick is it 24 volt DC so then it can be charged from the bricks charging port after all its a misnomer that 12 volt battery is 12 volts back when batteries first come out each cell was 2 volts and the old 32 volt systems used to have 16 big 8 x8x12 inch high glass cells but as battery making technology inproved especially when they started making starting batteries it went up so a sealed lead acid battery now is fully charged at 14. 4 volts and needs to be charged at 14.4 and yes I thought the Rving chanels were wrong after all the manufacturers of booster packs should know proper charging perameters for the batteries in their units but I tore apart my old black and decker booster pack with a 400 watt modified sine wave inverter to find what battery they used so I could either go to their website or call them to find out what they said were the proper charging perameters for their product but written right on the battery was do not discharge below 12.2 volts and float charge is 13.4 volts and full charge is 14.8 so the RV chanels were right and the reason why they were dieing at a year old was that they were being horribly abused charged only to 12 volt dead to start with and if using the inverter taken to 10.8 volts and if used for lighting down to 0 no wonder the only last a year and then won't take a charge
You're missing one very important factor while charging. The Pecron E2000 has built in limits for the amperage/current on each of the charging ports. The small charging port on top (5521) only allows 6 amps input. So you could only ever get 76 watts @ 13volts. The MPPT dual inputs only allow 15 amps input. Most power stations rely on a high voltage / low amperage input to keep the internal heat down and the internal components cheaper.
none asks about keeping them non use!!!! someone who is purchasing it as a backup system might need it 85 % to full !! if someone uses the ups usage (if the station has one ) then he for sure he is recycling the batteries every day with electronic devices ,,,,but i think if you want those last long and no use em for months,.. that chemistry asks 45 to 65% optimal storage voltage .. !!! should we mention it more times for every single station ? . so even if an older one faults its sustems but batteries are good condition its much easier and less costy even for the company to send modules to fix and not the entire batteries.. (which is the top cost o all the package) they are quite new hoby and soon their batteries will be used for another aplications such diy .. and people who invest in them they invest in possible WH they could drain during time passes!!!! this makes the VAlue for money purchase count !!! nice videos keep up
@@Jasonoid That's what I figured, and I don't think that is very good. At least with the bluetti, they could perhaps have a software fix if needed. I'm torn between the AC 200 Max and this unit, but I'm just hearing more and more bad things about customer support with bluetti. Guess I'll wait out a couple more months and see what else hits the market. Thanks for your videos, Jason.
@@bidnow If you got time to wait, I'd recommend the Ecoflow Delta 2 Max, its still being designed but I just had a chance to meet with Ecoflow engineers at CES 2023 and it should be the 2000wh king. It will have LFP batteries. The Delta Max first edition is already a beast power station, just not LFP.
@@Jasonoid Okay number one I see you had already answered the firmware question so sorry about that and number two, I know Ecoflow is one of the big three but I have never ever paid attention to their units I don't know why but I will definitely wait for this one and see what happens especially if you think it may be good.
I'm new to this type of thing - Does the 100V restriction mean that my 200-watt Bluetti PV200 panel would not work with the Pecron? Sorry if this is a dumb question!
Your Bluetti PV200 panel is considered a 12v panel so it will only work by connecting it to the 5521 charging port. You can pick up an adapter like this to plug it into that port and it should charge around 100 watts: amzn.to/3LTzGEr The second option would be to pickup a second PV200 panel and connect both of them in series connection for a higher voltage so you can plug them into the one of the MPPT charge controllers.
Newbie here so this may be a dumb question but I want to hook this up to a fuse block and run 2 12 v max air fans (or something similar) and about 12 puck lights in a camper conversion along with plugging in a 12 V fridge. If this only has 10amps of DC power total is it even remotely possibly? I thought about the Bluetti that had the 25amp plug but I worry about having a control panel that controls the AC and DC on/off functions. I like that this has a button, I feel like there is less room for issues - thoughts?
I doubt you'd be able to run all those items off the DC output of the Pecron. You are correct that the Bluetti power stations allow for a higher DC load (25-30 amps). I'd recommend choosing a large Bluetti power station or going with a standalone 12v LiFePO4 battery for your power needs.
DO NOT GO WITH PECRON! HORRIBLE CUSTOMER SERVICE. NO PHONE # AND I HAVE SENT 4 EMAILS IN 5 DAYS WITH NO REAL RESPONSE. IT BROKE IN 1 DAY. SAVE YOUR MONEY.
This unit is great for solar charging. The F2400 is more based around UPS mode and AC charging. If you want solar as the priority chose this one. The customer support is also better with Pecron.
Is temperature discharge actually limited to 113F per the user manual? I was thinking about buying this to power a fridge in my van, but on a sunny day the internal temp of the van would be well over 113 in the sun.
My 1000w rated microwave pulls 1800 watts from the inverter. Even on low mode it just pulls 1800 watts on and off in a cycle. You won't be able to run both large cooking appliances at the same time.
I prefer to tear down raw batteries. If there was a major issue found, I might be more inclined to tear down the power station. The disassembly process is often difficult and damages the power station. I make some money back by selling the units after I finish the review.
Its just a link to their website, non affiliate, you can just google the model and it will come up: www.pecron.com/products/pecron-e2000lfp-portable-power-station
Depends on what your are trying to power. This will keep 1 full size fridge running consistently with solar input during the day. Add in a few other devices and you're still good. They also offer cheap expansion batteries to extend that runtime.
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Hi Jason: I wanted to express a public note of appreciation for your excellent, comprehensive reviews and for your responsiveness to your subscribers. You have helped many folks make wise, informed decisions about their portable power station purchases.
Dare I say you are the Project Farm of Power Stations. I love your testing regiment and very objective/factual analysis. Please never change. This format is why you’re soon to be #2 in the lithium world behind God Emperor William Errol Prowse IV
The only thing I wish you would add (and this is not possible until you get some major financial backing) is a tear down with analysis of battery pack/BMS, inverter, DC board (I love PD controller IC’s), MPPT and internal AC charger. I’d love to see you pull the battery pack out identify the cells, pack configuration and commentary on how the voltage choice affects conversion efficiencies kinda like you did here
I’m very curious to see who is using prismatic cells/pouches/cylindrical. I would assume the big boys have to be prismatic or pouch to save on space. I can’t imagine cylindrical 32700 cells or even some “non standard” sizes like big 15Ah cells are small enough/light enough to beat 8 75Ah cells this thing likely has. 3.2*8=25.6*75=1920wh is how I got 8S1P 75Ah cells. Could be pouch because I know 75Ah LiFeP04 pouch cells exist.
Just purchased this 2 weeks ago. Very portable with the trolley they sell in the solar kit. Very impressive and no worries for my wife while I’m at work at night. Hurricane Michael made her a believer when I pulled out my 5kw gen that kept us going for 11 days. I figured this will at the very least will save fuel cost on a gas generator. Awesome technology.
Hurricane Ian just left us last night. Only suffered 11 hour power outage, but I can tell you, my small Bluetti barely cut it for just a router. Looking to upgrade today. Your videos really make that process easier. Thank you for all your work.
I've been thinking about my viewers from Florida this whole week! I hope you made it through without too much damage! There are lots of options available to help with power outages luckily!
Small systems get used up FAST. I now have an Oupes 1800 and a few smaller units - a Bluetti EB55, Bluetti EB3a and a smaller unit good for a fan or phone. Still need sun within a couple of days after an outage even with these if I expect to run a fridge for long.
A few friends have decided on this, mainly due to the option to expand. It sounds very good, I decided on a different brand that is 1800W. Many of these are hard to decide between, it comes down to what we prioritize as well as cost. Thanks for all your great reviews!
I hope you didn't get it. 😔
I ordered the bundle at the Pecron website. When it arrived I plugged my full sized refrigerator freezer. I was very pleased. Then I plugged in my two small freezers. Perfect. I'm very pleased with this power station and with a quick response from customer service. For me it is a great purchase.
I think this is a solid back up power or even for daily use. Im very inclined to buying this. Yes, it does not have all the bells and whistles like other big brands but it gets the job done. Excellent solar input, lipo4, very efficient and price and maybe an expansion in the future. Even better..their battery expansion seems to be able to charge on its own and has some dc outputs as well. Ecoflow delta 2 should be ashamed :)...
This is probably one of the best budget offerings right now!
I bought an E3000 shortly after they were released. It failed after about 3 months, cycling each day on 4 solar panels. The company agreed to replace it with the LFP2000 and hold the difference in credit towards an expansion battery but overall the customer service was garbage. No phone number to call and no other compensation was offered for the massive inconvenience or money lost waiting. It cost me $250 to ship it back. So far, I like the new model (I got a black one) but until the expansion batteries become a reality, I'm just sitting here waiting.
This is very useful information and often common with their customer support. I ordered a 2000LFP and wasn't able to charge anywhere near "1200 watts" as advertised, after each of the 2 MPPT charge controllers got past 400 watts each with solar the unit stops charging until you re-plug them in. They claim it's a "software" issue and while I wanted my Renogy panels to work they offered a refund. Only email for communication was a pain but at least they paid return shipping! Maybe they will fix this one day, shame this review video doesn't go in depth on the PV charging, isn't that a key feature to dive into?
@Dale dud you end up purchasing another model
Very informative. The Pecron looks like an overall winner. As I'm getting up there in age, I like the fact that it is a bit smaller and only 48 pounds. Nice work Jason. One other thing...who took the very nice photo on the wall, the one with the pines in the fog? I really like it.
I picked up the picture at a local hobby lobby, I really liked it.
Excellent review. I'd be interested in seeing a followup when the expansion batteries are available.
I like everything you tested, I’m researching on what would be the best power station for my needs, but within my budget. This video was great and loved to actually see load bearing items plugged in to get that visual.
Just ran it through Hurricane Helene and now we have another one on the gulf - great power and versatility ! I looked extensively at all the brands and Pecron delivers the best mix ! Reliable!
It's definitely worth the price to keep things powered up during an outage 👍
I just subbed your channel. You have given an excellent break down of this unit. Been in the market for a generator to use daily in a camper and I think this fits the bill. Your analysis was top notch and very understandable for us layman. Looking forward to you maybe testing with the add on batteries. I had been looking at the Bluetti ac200max but for the money I believe the pecron is the better buy as the Bluetti has a very high discharge rate at idle as seen on several other reviewers channels. Thank you for your time and effort in checking out this unit.
I appreciate the feedback Cliff
@@Jasonoid I see people commenting on the discharge rate at idle. If you're running a 12v fridge on it constantly does it remove this inefficiency?
I've had mine for aend if DEC.bout 3 months now and love it. The EB3000 batteries are now available for pre-order. According to Amazon, they should have shipped by the
Just bought one. Customer Service has been good.. They were responsive as there was a delay on my additional charger. The delay on the charger made me I
a little nervous about the additional battery roll out. Last word was they should start taking orders for the additional battery end of October with shipment of the unit the first of December.
Thanks for the update on the expansion battery timeline!
@@Jasonoid I'm a little nervous about getting the additional battery. I feel a shut down is coming w the USA Russia conflict. December may be to late . If the conflict escalates things will shut down inc.uding shipments.
I understand the additional batteries are at the warehouse. I ordered my additional battery in November when they began taking orders. The billing of 1500.00 showed up on my November credit card bill. This was even though I had yet to receive the product. I was surprised as That is alot of money to pay in advance. When I looked back in my records, on my initial order, the same thing happened for the additional charger I ordered. I was charged for product I had yet to receive. I personally find this practice of billing before shipping the product to the customer a questionable practice. Although I like the product, based on business practices , I'm dubious about the company.
What up Doe!?
WoW! amazing review Dr J'
Pecron really did a good job on the advertise watt hrs to actual use of their power stations. After seeing the triple charge ability, two expandable batteries, huge solar input and great price point, I could definitely be #teampecron
Thanks again👍🏻
Great review as always, so much good data to inform your decisions. This seems like a surprisingly good option with impressive output efficiency. If they switched to internal chargers they'd be a really good budget option.
Jason, really enjoy your videos. Have learned a lot!!! Can you do a test on the new E2000lfp? It now has a RV plug and want to know if they fixed the issues they have had. Thanks!!
I don't have the newer model to test with, I'm sorry.
Great review! When you pressed the AC button, and the power factor came up as 0.6, i was surprised. Most of the time you will see between 0.7 and 1 and this would mean the inverter is rated at 3333 VA. I'm guessing that the low PF is one of the reasons the unit has low parasitic losses when idling. I don't know if you checked it to see if it can actually deliver the specified 2000 watts, but that would be a useful test. That down stairs refrigerator is the gold standard test and i look at that for all of the larger generators, as that is what i use mine for:)
It passed the max load inverter test for 15 minutes @5:38 I push the inverter to the limits (2000 watts). The Power Factor number of 0.6 on the display is when the inverter had a 50 watt load on it. I think this power station is my new "budget" favorite!
Looks like Pecron has a couple of performance issues on the AC side, struggling with a large inductive load due to voltage limiting with high AC loads and noise on the line. The external power brick contributes to the compactness of the generator. Good price for this generator.
Your product reviews are top notch. You do a fantastic job of explaining all the functions of this product. I would love to see you do a video explaining how to hook up a solar panel; or how to hook up in series and parallel and to do it in the voltage range of the products. I believe you would be excellent at this. I can see it must take an enormous amount of time to conduct all the testing and to explain it with all the details. You certainly do a great job and I most certainly appreaciate your efforts. Thank you.
Hey Manny, I made a video for that question / request I get all the time. It's about choosing the right solar panel setup for your specific power station, hope it helps! th-cam.com/video/4JG8LvJznLY/w-d-xo.html
@@Jasonoid I just watched the video; it was gold;. It cleared up my confusion. I am amazed, Thanks.
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I just purchased this with your code and link. Came out to $1110 and some change with free standard shipping, not sure if the free shipping is all the time or just because of a special. but it is on sale right now for $1169 on the pecron website. I checked amazon and even with $349 off, 200 coupon and a code for 149, it would have been around $1250 after taxes and all. Now i will have a power station that can take my 4-230-watt panels in series and i can use this to charge my other power stations. Comes out to about 55 cents a wh.
As always great video. I almost bought this unit but decided against it because the solar panels I had from the competitor would not charge it due to voltage restrictions. Another deal breaker for me was that I could not use it as a UPS which I need due to power outages . I do like it though, again great information as always.
Thanks for the feedback Shelly! Always good to hear what others think about these devices!
I had a small issue with part of the delivery. I used the contact us on the website. I received an answer in less than 24 hours.
Excellent review as always. Seeking first power station 1K-2K range for off grid vehicle living full time. Excellent price and overall features but drawback is lack of UPS for electronics. Also have to check solar specs. Keep up the reviews, they will mean everything when I will need to pick one station and rely on it for my daily power needs.
Great review Jason! As others mentioned, while the Pecron doesn't have the fancy features, it does all the basics right. I personally don't need a UPS. Love that the batteries are usable and rechargeable on their own, and their pricing is great. I have EcoFlow, and wish it had some of the features of the Pecron. I'd be interested to see follow-up reviews if you decide to get the expansion batteries.
BTW, looking at the expansion batteries, it appears there's no physical limit on how many you can connect since each battery has 2 ports and they're dasiy-chained. I wonder why the limitation to 2 expansion batteries only. Is it just the main unit's inability to communicate with more than 2 EBs?
It'd be pretty sweet to connect, say, 4 EBs to get 14kWh!
They mentioned to me that it supported two batteries, it could support more as well. I'll have to find that out from them.
@@Jasonoid Hi Jason. Just wanted to check in on your E2000LFP since the expansion batteries are now available. I'm curious if you ordered one or 2 to test?
I bought an E2000LFP during their sale. Used your code too, so hopefully you got a little something back.
Also do you plan to test their E600LFP?
@@zigzagluck Awesome! I hope I can pick up one of the expansion batteries for the E2000 early next year. How have you enjoyed it so far? I actually have the 600wh model, haven't had a chance to test it yet.
Another great video, appreciate the time and effort you do.
Thank you fastway007
Clearly stated review Bravo
New subscriber to the channel and really enjoy your videos. I have learned a lot watching them and want to say this was a fantastic review! Been in the market for a 1k to 2W system and this power station has my attention especially with this new LFP offering. The capacity and efficiency for the price is really hard to beat. I Will likely purchase this with a couple BougeRV 200 12V 9BB panels to start. This would be a big step up from my 300W Rockpals unit with 60W portable panel😊. Primary use will be used for home fridge/freezer backup and other smaller home appliances.
Thanks Metal Tracker! This should work really well for a backup system for a full sized fridge. With 400 watts of solar you should be able to charge it up during the day and run your fridge through the night! I also like how it's expandable if you ever want to grow your system.
Boom, I finally pulled the trigger on this when they went on sale for $1169. Mine's being delivered today. Can't wait.
It's a great budget unit! Make sure you watch Ramblin Bob's Percon e2000lfp videos to get familiar with it, hes got like 20 of them LOL
@@Jasonoid I watched a few so far. Thanks Jason, and have a great day.
@@hificat101 any issues with unit. Which version did they send you
@@donaldricher8815 haven't really done anything with it other than unboxing, and putting the little dolly together. Mine has orange corner bumpers on it, and I thought it looked strange when I took it out, but couldn't figure our why. Then I realized the corners were orange instead of yellow. Been working a lot but have this weekend off, so may play with it a bit.
We are getting one of these. Will have to do a beach landing to access Sanibel Island. Gotta get some dehumidifiers running ASAP
Argh, why did they not add the bidirectional inverter and UPS function that the E1500 Pro has? Then it looks like it would be perfect for its capacity size and price point.
We got a direct hit from Hurricane Ian and will probably still be out of power for days if not weeks. I had been on the fence about a solar generator for months, waiting for the ‘perfect’ one. The E2000 is nearly there much like the Bluetti AC200max. Anyway when I saw Ian heading our way last Friday I jumped on Amazon and got the much smaller Bluetti E3BA along with an Allpowers 200w solar panel and accessories because they were the only things that were going to deliver before the storm hit. We have been stress testing it a lot, but so far it has kept our 28 cu ft refrigerator going and our devices charged with only 1 gallon of gas being used from a supplemental backup to top it up and run at night. Back to my original point, it is really nice being able to keep the E3BA plugged in to the fridge and everything else and just turn on the other backup power as needed without interruptions. But obviously it would be nice to have much more battery buffer and more solar capacity.
GREAT VIDEO JASONOID.
THANK YOU.
Hi Jason! I’m so glad to have picked up the E2000lfp, EB3000, and 2 E600’s. Quick question assuming you have an EB3000, I’m registering for the extra year warrantee but the box sticker is partially damaged and the unit is buried in the rv storage and I know the serial number is of course on the bottom. Could you please confirm the first four characters is WX22. I think they use the same across the unit type as my power stations all start MY22. If you could verify I’d greatly appreciate it! You are the guy when it comes to solar reviews! Thanks, Joe
Thanks Jason!!!
Both my e2000 and e600 start with "MY". I do not have the e3000 expansion batteries. Ramblin Bob's Reviews has an e3000 expansion and you could ask him.
That efficiency is a major selling point.
I agree, one of the best test results I've gotten so far!
I ordered one of these but would love to see a comparison with the Bluetti AC200Max
Hi Jason! Love the review. I've been on the fence for a few weeks with the Pecron E2000LFP + EB3000 expansion battery (roughly $2700) or the Bluetti AC300 ($3200.) Clearly, there are major difference in price, (Pecron .54c per watt vs. Bluetti $1.04 per watt) but my biggest concern is about the expansion battery. According to pictures on the Pecron website, it shows that the EB3000 has max input of 400 watt. Surely, the expansion battery can be charged by the power station and/or solar but at 400w?! To fully charge a 3072wh battery, (let's just say best case at it's max of 400w) it would take 7.5 hours from 0-100% While that sounds good to some, if you plan on charging by gas generator, it's going to take a LOT longer to top off those expansion batteries. Am I correct in this thinking or am I missing something? Also, the Pecron 2 year vs. 4 year Bluetti warranty is a big difference IMO. It's a touch call...
Hey Bucks, hard to know the exact specs on the EB3000 batteries since they aren't out yet. I should be getting an expansion battery to test with early next year so plan for a future video. As for charging speed (both with solar and AC input) and expandability the AC300 beats the E2000 by quite a bit. The AC300 also has the app connectivity and UPS functionality. Kinda comparing apples to oranges.
i agree, the bluetti would charge in less time (im getting the ac200max as my first power setup) but looking at pecron as a backup option. both with expansion battery. i dont mind the idle discharge of the ac200max vs the pecron.
excellent review.
Thanks Anthony! Any feedback about how to make it better?
I just bought the pecron e2000 and 4x 100W 12v Renogy solar panels and im trying to run the four in series into one of the DC ports but it’s not charging the pecron even during full sun. It’s showing the “charging icon” but not putting in any wattage… the only thing I can think of is that my Renogy cords won’t work- I bought a 4-way mc4 cable (one negative cable with all four negatives and one positive cable with all four positives) and then those plug into the mc4 +/- cable that pecron includes… what am I doing wrong? Do I need to run two in series together and then run the two sets of two together?
That solar adapter you bought is a parallel adapter, the voltage isn't high enough to start charging. You need to actually wire them in series.
@@Jasonoid thank you 🙏🏽 so I just need to get the right cords then
To wire in series you don't need any additional adapters, you just connect the positive of one panel to the negative of the other in a chain. This video explains it's in depth:
th-cam.com/video/OZvrTuhJhXs/w-d-xo.html
@@Jasonoid thank you so much! So easy! I must have watched the wrong video originally when I bought what I thought I needed! You’re a lifesaver!! Thank you!!
Good review. I like how you save time in the review video by showing the results instead of a time lapse of the test and then the results like HoboTech does. If the unit is hooked up to AC and the battery is fully charged does the power pass through without the loss of 100 watts like you showed when it is charging?
Thabks Ron, I'm glad people noticed my "faster / efficient" process. That's my goal! 😁
When using a wall charger you have efficiency losses from 120vac to the DC power of the battery. That 100 watts or so is the loss of efficiency + running the cooling fans + the leds lights on the charger. It all adds up. Overall I think that's pretty normal, even with power stations with built in AC chargers.
Thanks for the great review Jason! I've been waiting for this one. You mentioned you were hoping for a firmware fix. How would that be applied? You didn't mention if it was wifi or BT ready. Again, thanks for reviewing this. Im 100% getting one of these and at least 1 expansion battery.
The firmware update would have to be from the factory. There is no smart app connectivity on the device.
why does no one ever test the solar charging. A huge issue. Can only use 12v or 32+. so many panels won't work with this.
around @10:56 I do a bunch of charging tests, including the solar testing. You'll need at least two 12v solar panels in series to get charging input on the charge controller.
Hello Jason just found your station and you do a great job of explaining to us not so power smart knuckleheads. Anyhow couple dilemmas tossing round the Pec 2000 and the Bluetti max. Hard to overlook the Pec. My other issue is well water 220 volts. What and how do you think would be best way to go if neither of these units can do. Thanks in advance and will be watching. Good job 👍
Hey Dino, you'll need a bigger power station to run a 240v well pump. These 2000wh power stations (Bluetti AC200Max and Pecron E2000) only put out 120 volts so they won't be able to power that appliance. 240v power stations are getting more popular though! For example, the Zendure Superbase V was just announced and it has both 120v and 240v outputs in one power station.
You then need a 110 to 220 inverter amplifier I guess or gas powered generator
Hello Jason...bought an E2000lfp and pretty satisfied after the first one was returned for no go, (Customer Service pretty good so far). I see that the EB3000 (3kwh) expansion batts are out. Want to add expansions but won't until I start seeing some reviews from my trusted UTubers. When do you think? Thanks
Jason, I need help from you and your viewers. I just purchased the E2000LFP and the EB3000 expansion battery. that gives me close to 5000 W of storage. I did a 24 hour study on my freezer and it used 2.634 kWh. does this mean I would use 2634 W of the 5000 W system in 24 hours? I purchased the Renogy 400 W suitcase and also three 200 W Renogy panels and I’m using your design of the portable adjustable solar panel mount. so I’m guessing during peak times they would produce 800 to 900 W. i’m just trying to plan if I have enough power stored if we had a multiple day blackout. Thank you!
If they can get it to 120v on the inverter. I'd really consider this. If I was in the market for a big power station. Especially with the efficiency and expandability. The 1,200w solar input is also pretty good.
I'm still happy with my Bluetti EB200 though. 🤷♂️
EB200 is a great power station 😁👍 I am going to be comparing the EB200P, vs the AC200P, vs the AC200max. See which one comes in at the best value.
They must have updated the product after this review because my e2000lfp says 121v at 60hz 😅
looks like it would be decent if you wanted to have this powered by solar power and have up to 1000watts of solar for it.
i think the usb limit may have been 100 watts for everything? but maybe you tested that and still only got 65 on the 100 watt port.
speaking of the hurricane, my p2001 is already making it's self useful.
thanks for the review 😀
Great video! Thanks a bunch💐
You are so welcome!
Just starting the video and will add comments as I go along but I like that dc low power draw @ idle!
36 volts is weird. That would basically be a mess of cables. And I would know, I'm familiar with a mess of cables. Haha
Yeah, just have to have panels in series, not a horrible requirement but it's annoying if you want to run 12v panels only.
Great review as usual, I always look for your reviews. Quick question, I have a E600 and wondering if my charger will work with this E2000. Looks like the same connector. I also built a DC to DC and been using it no problem off my batteries so hopefully can use that here too. Thanks so much, great job!
Yes, the smaller wall charger will work on this so you can use both at the same time.
Thank you for the very detailed review. This was really helpful. I'm not very well versed with these and I'm wondering if this one would power my home's oil burning furnace if I were to lose power during the winter. I'm happy to know it will run the fridge.
Since the oil furnace uses oil to create heat, it doesn't use much electricty. You should be able to run your oil furnace during a power outage on the E2000.
The key to getting the longest runtime possible would be to run the furnace for 30 minutes straight, then turn it off for an hour or two, then run the furnace for another 30 minutes.
great video thank you!
Thanks for watching!
Can this unit handle microwave oven?
Yes! It could run two microwaves at the same time.
Hi Jason, I received my E2000LFP today, my power supply seems to have a little damage on one of the cables. I requested another charger for this unit. Until then do you see a problem with using my E600LFP charger for this unit? Thx!
It should work just fine. I think the voltage is the same, just less amps.
@Jasonoid Thank You Sir! Stay Blessed!
Great review.
waiting for the UK stock to be available for purchase would be good for a backup or main setup.
Great Job as always. I know it's pretty standard now a days, but does this have BMS specifically low temperature charging shut off?
I havent tested that on this unit. The owners manual does mention temperature protection but that's usually high temp protection.
I ordered a 2000LFP about a month ago with a code from HoboTech. Issue 1; wasn't able to charge with solar anywhere near "1200 watts" as advertised, if either of the 2 MPPT charge controllers got past 400 watts, the unit stopped charging completely. Issue 2; I contacted support and they claimed it was a "software" issue, whereas I assumed x6 200watt Renogy panels would work (obv. staying under the 95V each input) they say there's no way my compatible panels will work. What??? Issue 3; Only email for communication, no phone, is a big pain but at least they paid return shipping after 2 weeks of arguing and refusing to send me a replacement! Maybe they will fix this "bug?" one day, shame this review video doesn't go in-depth on the PV charging, isn't that a key feature to dive into?
What did Hobotech say when you asked him about this same question on his channel? How do you have the panels connected? Three 200 watt panels in series on each charge controller?
@@Jasonoid Apologies, it wasn't HoboTech (though he has a couple Pecron reviews) but City Prepper who had a 10% off code, and that was the extent of that person's involvement.
I have x3 Renogy 200watt (27 Open Circuit Voltage) panels in series, per input. And per Pecron, paraphrasing; even though the specs do fit the battery, I'm essentially using the wrong panels or something and there's not a lot they can do.
@@dale4413 that's a canned response you'll get from any of these manufacturers unfortunately. If you got the same issue using a bunch of their branded solar panels they probably wouldn't even know what to do. I did solar testing in my video actually. I was able to get over 1000 watts on my unit just fine in my testing using their ac power brick (which is basically a solar array) and my own solar panels plugged in. It might be an issue with your power station in particular since I didn't have issues going over 800 watts while dual charging. Can you break 1000 watts using your solar panels and AC charger dual charging?
@@Jasonoid I was able to barely break 1005watts by having roughly 600w come from the wall charger and 400w come from one solar input, but the solar specifically cuts out past 450w guaranteed, no good reason why. Let me dig up an unlisted video I sent them that shows this off...
Here's the video I sent them th-cam.com/video/vqLRqJvmVaQ/w-d-xo.html
Jason,
Very curious - was the unit at roughly 40 some %, as the close-up showed, when you started the 24 test on the fridge vs. 100 %🎉
Thank-you,
USMC Disabled Vet
Freedom Cost Something
Some times I lose video clips so I have to use other shots to fill in the gaps. The full size fridge test was started at 100% capacity and ended near 0%.
Is there an EU version for this or other Pecron models?
Yes, I seen a review a week ago by someone in Europe.
Search for Marco reps channel
Nice job and nice unit.
OMG I got to buy one !!!!!!
Looks sweet!
great review. How do these units that don't have WIFI, Bluetooth, apps get firmware upgrades?
That's the downside of not having an app, they can't get updated.
Thanks!
Thanks Cliff!
I've been waiting for this review. Thank you for the great job. I've been eyeing this power station and waiting for more reviews.
A few questions
- I'm assuming that it supports pass-thru charging? (using it to power stuff while charging with solar)
- Are you going to be getting some of the expandable batteries?
I'm looking for something to power my small appliances in case of a power outage (mainly fridge and freezer).
I also might plug it into a transfer switch to occasionally power a few circuits to lower that bill.. just a tiny tiny bit. 🙂
~16:53 he says it has pass through charging.
@@christopherellis2273 I am debating about getting an expansion battery. $1500 for 3000wh would be a decent deal, especially since they can be operated independently.
🐾🐾💚Thanks Jason 🌷
I like the Pecron. Their packages include two panels. I was thinking about just using one of their 200 watt solar panels. Is that possible?
You could always send them an email to see what other deals they have.
2 Questions for basic things like fridge’s and TVs…..Should I leave it in AC or DC? And how does it shut off
You turn on and off the AC inverter by pressing and holding the AC button. You can leave the devices plugged into the outlets even when the AC inverter is off, it only will power devices when the AC inverter is powered on.
@@Jasonoid Appreciate it
Will you do a review of this with the expansion batteries?
If I get an expansion battery, I'll make an update video.
Do you think i can run my fridge 24/7 by using solar panels connected or it will damage the battery and i should use it only for power outage? Thanks for all the help
Also I just got it for $854 thanks for the coupon
You can keep it charged with solar panels 24/7, it will not damage the power station.
Great content what type solar panel connections it take 8mm ? mc4 ? thank you in advance
This uses MC4 connections
Hi Jason,
Can you please confirm this is 110 volt only. No 240 v for us in the UK?
Sorry if I missed it.
Loving your work mate.
From my understanding they only make a USA version right now. I didn't see any other options online.
@@Jasonoid That's a pity. Thanks for your quick response Jason.
@@CURRYHOLIC1 someone else commented about a UK version, he mentioned a channel that reviewed one, read through the comments.
@@Jasonoid Thanks Jason.
I have e1500 pro which has the undesired batteries but has much faster charging and a 30 amp dc out.
How could they let this one out the shop in that condition?
Have you used a voltage booster 12 v to 36 v at 720 watts for charging from your car battery
Yep, full video on that topic here:
th-cam.com/video/I78RxjRXTn4/w-d-xo.html
You said that two 12 volt panels should be used because the aviation ports need 32 volts minimum but that does not add up right. Am I missing something? Thanks
12v panels acutally put out around 18 volts at peak power. The naming of 12v solar panels is because they are meant for charging 12v batteries. Kinda confusing.
@@Jasonoid Well thanks for clarifying it. I know my math isn’t great but I couldn’t understand this😊
@@tony4one296 this video will help you understand how solar panels and power stations work together
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Does your compressor fridge have eco mode?
If so your battery will last even longer.
When I was running my 12v fridge is was already on EcoMode.
Hi Jason!
Just curious if this would be a good option for charging my Sur ron ebike ? It’s a 6000 wat bike and just want to get a portable charger that would charge quickly/ efficiently ?
Thanks
The wall charger on that bike should plug into this power station and charge without an issue. I don't know how big the Sur ron battery is but I'm guessing youd get 1 or 2 charges out of it. If you had solar panels, you could get unlimited charges from the sun.
What type of solar inputs plugs this unit uses?
It comes with MC4 adapters.
wonder if you built a battery with the same connector if you can use it for the expansion battery
I dont think so, the expansion port uses communication pins, not just a main positive and negative lead.
Any thoughts on whether manufacturers are simply "downspec'ing the kWh rating to appear more efficient? Is there truly 1920kWh inside thing thing or is there 2048kWh in reality and written as 1920kWh to appear more efficient?
It could be either way I suppose. I'd rather have a spec more in line with what you actually get when using the power station. That's why I went away from calling these results "efficiency numbers" and now I just say how much power you get vs the advertised capacity. Hard to tell the true efficiency.
@@Jasonoid Thanks for the thoughts.I fully agree. I guess it doesn't matter what is truly inside, as long as advertised meets actual - that's what people really care about! Thanks for another solid review.
being non ups does pass through charging effect battery longevity
Yeah, but with 3500 charge cycles to 80%, it's not going to effect it much.
have they updated or upgraded this unit yet?
Yes, they fixed the few bugs with a newer internal control board.
One test I'd like to see is set up a set of mc4 connectors to an automobile battery and see what it'll charge at now as far as I know there is nothing sent from solar panels telling the mppt charge controller that hey the power is coming from a panel and 12/24 volt DC is the same coming from a solar panel and a altinator so a 12 volt alternator putting out 14 volts 60 amps is 840 watts you're the first one to say it needs 24 volts input on the solar so you'd need a 24 volt DC charging system so since they should put out 28 volts at 100 amps so that's a whopping 2800 watts now if they would just give the option to skip the brick and give it at a lower price for those off the grid and those who have RVs there are ways to charge 24 volt DC systems from a 12 volt system and there are utube videos that show how to make a 12 volt gas powered charger the only difference is that you'd have to use a 24 volt alternator instead of a 12 volt and since there are also videos on utube for converting generators to propane natural gas or methane there are a lot of charging options available that don't use the brick after all as one utube channel put it why step up to 120 and back down to 12 volt he was talking about lights but the same applies here why use a 120 volt generator to power a brick to bring it back down to a lower voltage and in writing this what is the output voltage of the brick is it 24 volt DC so then it can be charged from the bricks charging port after all its a misnomer that 12 volt battery is 12 volts back when batteries first come out each cell was 2 volts and the old 32 volt systems used to have 16 big 8 x8x12 inch high glass cells but as battery making technology inproved especially when they started making starting batteries it went up so a sealed lead acid battery now is fully charged at 14. 4 volts and needs to be charged at 14.4 and yes I thought the Rving chanels were wrong after all the manufacturers of booster packs should know proper charging perameters for the batteries in their units but I tore apart my old black and decker booster pack with a 400 watt modified sine wave inverter to find what battery they used so I could either go to their website or call them to find out what they said were the proper charging perameters for their product but written right on the battery was do not discharge below 12.2 volts and float charge is 13.4 volts and full charge is 14.8 so the RV chanels were right and the reason why they were dieing at a year old was that they were being horribly abused charged only to 12 volt dead to start with and if using the inverter taken to 10.8 volts and if used for lighting down to 0 no wonder the only last a year and then won't take a charge
You're missing one very important factor while charging. The Pecron E2000 has built in limits for the amperage/current on each of the charging ports. The small charging port on top (5521) only allows 6 amps input. So you could only ever get 76 watts @ 13volts. The MPPT dual inputs only allow 15 amps input. Most power stations rely on a high voltage / low amperage input to keep the internal heat down and the internal components cheaper.
none asks about keeping them non use!!!! someone who is purchasing it as a backup system might need it 85 % to full !! if someone uses the ups usage (if the station has one ) then he for sure he is recycling the batteries every day with electronic devices ,,,,but i think if you want those last long and no use em for months,.. that chemistry asks 45 to 65% optimal storage voltage .. !!! should we mention it more times for every single station ? . so even if an older one faults its sustems but batteries are good condition its much easier and less costy even for the company to send modules to fix and not the entire batteries.. (which is the top cost o all the package) they are quite new hoby and soon their batteries will be used for another aplications such diy .. and people who invest in them they invest in possible WH they could drain during time passes!!!! this makes the VAlue for money purchase count !!! nice videos keep up
On these solar generators with no Bluetooth app or wireless app, how is the software ever updated or can it be?
It's can't be updated, its stuck with the shipped firmware and software version.
@@Jasonoid That's what I figured, and I don't think that is very good. At least with the bluetti, they could perhaps have a software fix if needed. I'm torn between the AC 200 Max and this unit, but I'm just hearing more and more bad things about customer support with bluetti. Guess I'll wait out a couple more months and see what else hits the market. Thanks for your videos, Jason.
@@bidnow If you got time to wait, I'd recommend the Ecoflow Delta 2 Max, its still being designed but I just had a chance to meet with Ecoflow engineers at CES 2023 and it should be the 2000wh king. It will have LFP batteries. The Delta Max first edition is already a beast power station, just not LFP.
@@Jasonoid Okay number one I see you had already answered the firmware question so sorry about that and number two, I know Ecoflow is one of the big three but I have never ever paid attention to their units I don't know why but I will definitely wait for this one and see what happens especially if you think it may be good.
@@Jasonoid Do you know when that may be coming out?
Do he have an application like bluetti ou Ecoflow?
No App
I'm new to this type of thing - Does the 100V restriction mean that my 200-watt Bluetti PV200 panel would not work with the Pecron? Sorry if this is a dumb question!
Your Bluetti PV200 panel is considered a 12v panel so it will only work by connecting it to the 5521 charging port. You can pick up an adapter like this to plug it into that port and it should charge around 100 watts: amzn.to/3LTzGEr
The second option would be to pickup a second PV200 panel and connect both of them in series connection for a higher voltage so you can plug them into the one of the MPPT charge controllers.
Newbie here so this may be a dumb question but I want to hook this up to a fuse block and run 2 12 v max air fans (or something similar) and about 12 puck lights in a camper conversion along with plugging in a 12 V fridge. If this only has 10amps of DC power total is it even remotely possibly? I thought about the Bluetti that had the 25amp plug but I worry about having a control panel that controls the AC and DC on/off functions. I like that this has a button, I feel like there is less room for issues - thoughts?
I doubt you'd be able to run all those items off the DC output of the Pecron. You are correct that the Bluetti power stations allow for a higher DC load (25-30 amps). I'd recommend choosing a large Bluetti power station or going with a standalone 12v LiFePO4 battery for your power needs.
DO NOT GO WITH PECRON! HORRIBLE CUSTOMER SERVICE. NO PHONE # AND I HAVE SENT 4 EMAILS IN 5 DAYS WITH NO REAL RESPONSE.
IT BROKE IN 1 DAY. SAVE YOUR MONEY.
Good price
No mention of a Bluetooth App? That might be a con for some potential buyers.
This unit has NO BT or Wi-Fi connectivity.All firmware and software is what the unit shipped with.
This or the fossibot f2400?
This unit is great for solar charging. The F2400 is more based around UPS mode and AC charging. If you want solar as the priority chose this one. The customer support is also better with Pecron.
Is temperature discharge actually limited to 113F per the user manual? I was thinking about buying this to power a fridge in my van, but on a sunny day the internal temp of the van would be well over 113 in the sun.
I don't think so, that would be incredibly low. Most LFP batteries can charge up to 130F, so that's a little lower than the standard.
Nice product! I only wish it would work with single 12V panels...
You can plug in one 100 watt panel on the 5521 barrel port. Not a lot but I guess that's something right :)
No one ever talks about microwave ovens, so why don’t you test a microwave oven for normal useage and a kuurig at the same time.
My 1000w rated microwave pulls 1800 watts from the inverter. Even on low mode it just pulls 1800 watts on and off in a cycle. You won't be able to run both large cooking appliances at the same time.
no tear-down?
I prefer to tear down raw batteries. If there was a major issue found, I might be more inclined to tear down the power station. The disassembly process is often difficult and damages the power station. I make some money back by selling the units after I finish the review.
link doesn't work.
Its just a link to their website, non affiliate, you can just google the model and it will come up:
www.pecron.com/products/pecron-e2000lfp-portable-power-station
If you had a power outage over several days, this surely is about as useful as a chocolate teapot?
Depends on what your are trying to power. This will keep 1 full size fridge running consistently with solar input during the day. Add in a few other devices and you're still good. They also offer cheap expansion batteries to extend that runtime.