Wow! I'm from Brazil, thank you so much for the video. I have a MacBook pro 15, i5, and my machine is so tired...... The intro was totally Nice! Congrats
I still have an i7 from 2013 and I still do development work on it but the M1 is really impressive! If I had to purchase a computer today, I would probably go with the M1 Pro 16" base model! It is a beast!
My “vintage” MacBook Pro still does a great job. I can’t help but feel that the M1 chip is “cheating” somehow. How could this be ? Tiny little chip, runs cool and fast , no fans needed ... was the intel chip so really terrible in comparison ? I have trouble accepting this. What’s the “secret sauce” ?
The M1 a different architecture that’s more efficient (ARM), and it also has an integrated system of cores and memory. The “cheating” part is that you can’t upgrade anything
Great video, specially for the benchmark. Here's my output, since I have a 2015 MBP, but higher specs. Keep in mind I ran the test with my regular windows opened and usage: ** BUILD SUCCEEDED ** [335.768 sec] System Version: 12.6.2 Xcode 14.2 Hardware Overview Model Name: MacBook Pro Model Identifier: MacBookPro11,5 Processor Name: Quad-Core Intel Core i7 Processor Speed: 2,8 GHz Total Number of Cores: 4 L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB L3 Cache: 6 MB Number of Processors: 1 Hyper-Threading Technology: Enabled Memory: 16 GB ✅ XcodeBenchmark has completed 1⃣ Take a screenshot of this window (Cmd + Shift + 4 + Space) and resize to include: - Build Time (See ** BUILD SUCCEEDED ** [XYZ sec]) - System Version - Xcode Version - Hardware Overview - Started 11:27:14 - Ended 11:32:58 - Date domingo, 22 de enero de 2023, 11:32:58 CET
I love my mbp 2015 so much, but when the new m1 came out, I know that I have to switch to it as my daily drive. I'm gonna miss the hdmi port, the magsafe, and the glowing apple sign😭
Hear you bro. Just made the switch...2015 MacBook Pro to M1 Air. I loved my old machine and it used to be adequate for browsing and casual use but when I started even simple games, the fan would go loco. Sounds silly but that was one of the main reasons I made the switch plus they gave me a decent trade in...but ey man the glowing sign and MagSafe are legendary features. features. :(
@@user-he1dw1yh6u depends on your needs and budget. 2015 MBP is still a great device for normal browsing and admin stuff. The fan would go crazy everytime I launched a game though.
Same here. I have to make my decision soon, so it's either MBA M1 for a 1000$, or the newer MBP 14 (all I can dream of), but for a 2000$ price, which is to much... :(
@@VictorShiryaev my memory finally crapped out, I asked my son if he wanted it and I’d upgrade the memory to 1TB for him. He said yes, so in that case I decided on the Mac Mini because of cost. Got the Mac Mini and he then tells me he doesn’t have a use for the 2013 Macbook Pro. So now I have a rebuilt 😂
The 13" MacBook Pro with Intel Core i5-4258U CPU @ 2.40Ghz is actually Late 2013 model. Not 2015. The Early 2015 13" MacBook Pro (the last one before Apple dropped the SD slot) has i5 5257U @ 2.7GHz or i5 5287U @ 2.9GHz.
Luckily only very few people need building XCode on a cramped 13 inch screen. For normal 13 inch on-the-go work, the difference is not so big. 80% of the power consumption is for the screen, and the old one has a 50% larger battery. Also the 400 nit P3 display has potentially more power consumption than sRGB 300 nits. Combine that with better ports, a much cleaner and sturdier built, a better range of OS-selection (incl. Linux and Windows, but also the best OSX Mojave) and above all the stellar price, a nice kept 2015 is only 300 bucks today, and feels every bit as modern as the M1. The 2015 even boots faster!
this is the video..nice one.. if you can find some lenovo legion 5 or something in that category. and do a comparison on coding rather than gaming it would ve great to see..since legion 5 and air m1 are on same price .
Hi, to start editing videos, which one would you recommend the most? the 2015 Macbook Pro 13" i5 or the 2015 MacBook Pro 15.4" i7, without having to spend a lot of money, greetings from Peru.
Appreciate the comparison. I'm still using an early 2015 Macbook, but man, the retina screen is broken (seeing green dots all over it when under natural light, although you can't see it at all when using the Macbook indoors, so it works there), the battery is broken (usable for maybe 3 to 4 hours max until it has to be charged again), and bluetooth doesn't work anymore. I would like to hold off for a Macbook Air with Mini LED and no bezels, but that probably won't happen until late 2022, so I don't know. I'm probably going to wait at least until the next Apple event.
At 0:58 you say that you will put the exact specs of your 2015 Macbook in the description, but you did not. I'm not nitpicking, I was genuinely interested because I happen to own a "2015 Macbook", but mine doesn't even look like yours (I have a 15'' model, yours look like a 13''). So, which exact 2015 Macbook do you have?
I'm using the 2015 Macbook Pro. it's extremely slow when connects with an external monitor. CPU usage is heavy(kernel task eats the CPU). anyone is facing the same problem? i tried all the options from forums(reset, restart). I'm using Catalina(will it be the reason for it)?
I'm using the 2015 mid pro 2.5GHz 16GB RAM and also noticing lags when connected to my 4k external monitor. Even though i use gfxCardStatus its still lagging. And Never had problems before but on the latest big sur updates it just feels slower and slower so maybe it's true what they say about apple updates..
I have an MBP late 2012 13', and it still nice with office work, but if you will use Chrome (3-4tabs) + messenger + something like numbers it will be 80-90 C. So you can't work when it on your knees.. so I will buy a new one next month. I hope it will be as everybody says (just awesome after the old one)
You just need to replace thermal paste. I have 2012 13 i5, 8 GB 256 SSD. It can easily handle 30 tabs on chrome, Photoshop running and uncountable finder windows. It gets hot, yep but runs smoothly
Hey Alexander Ziskind, I guess you’re using the 2014 MacBook Pro as the processor config you’ve mentioned in the description doesn’t match with the 2015 (i5-5257u). Correct me if I’m wrong. Edit:- the video is great!
I’m using a pro mid 2012 and it works very well, but I’m thinking upgrade my laptop, but I don’t know if I must choose M1 or intel MacBook Pro for react native and web development, which one do you recommend?
React native works on the M1 now. I’m waiting for the next generation until I switch over. But if you need a machine right away, then the M1 is a good one
I'm waiting for my Macbook Air m1 to deliver. Switching from pro mid 2012. I'm majorly a react developer and based on my research I think Air will get my job done.
@@Jorgsalas i previously got some issue with mariadb cannot install via homebrew and making sample code using swift ui, really unsure it will work or not(not youtuber fake testing style).Performance vise mostly the same and if you do high proc still battery is down fast. Worthy no if you aren't urgent . Wait for new m1x if said so release. I main work still on imac intel not m1
new subscriber here 🙌🙌🙌 thank you for this video because I’m really comparing to buy MacBook Pro mid 2015 or MacBook Air M1 2020. I’m tied between budget vs performance but after watching this video I think I’m gonna buy the MacBook Air M1 2020 16GB RAM 256 SSD on education pricing. I will used it for learning web development 🙇♂️
@@AZisk xCode mostly. Before web developing. Starcraft 2 on spare time. I have upgraded the RAM, changed the trackpad (broken on altitude), the battery, the fan and 3 times the HD Using Catalina (patch)
The price difference of MACs in the US vs in Central Europe is ridiculous. A nice 256Gb 2015 MacBook Pro costs in Hungary (where I live) about 700 US dollars worth of money. Maybe 600 if not in perfect condition. Adding that the American wages are usually about 3 times higher means a used mac may be15! times cheaper for a US buyer than for a central-eastern European one.15! Now, If I wanna add a 1TB SSD, then I am talking 800$. Straight appalling. You guys not only have a great economy but freaken' low prices. Wtf. I guess what we get is free healthcare, cheap housing, and cheap booze, clubs and services. I will need to add this up sometime. Sorry, got a bit carried away.
Wasn't Hungary about female aesthetics? USA has no answer to that.... Be easy on the booze and enjoy looking at someone or touching your own body, depending on your gender and preference. Here it is literally in the middle. Used MBP in good condition 300-350€, wages decent, expensive-but-solid healthcare and most important, time to enjoy short/few working days and being a bakfietsmom part-time.
thanks for your video. Now I would like to buy the New MacBook. Should I buy the MacBookAir M1 or Pro M1?? I am developer base on Node, Mongo, Meteor, Vue, React...
How about the performance if you have a xamp or a mamp raising an api and a DB at the same time that you have a hybrid application running such as Ionic and a front in Angular?
One very interest and let's say important point on this topic: I think ( like me) a lot of people noticed that a computer getting tired in years. As an example: "8GB Ram + i5 CPU computer" after 4-5 years of intensive usage, does not have the same performance as before. If I'm not right, and this issue related only to old HDDs, please correct me. Thank you !
This is not true. Next time you get a new computer, run a benchmark. Run the benchmark again several years later. Unless something is really really wrong with your computer, the benchmark result will be the same. I know that the performance of the main program I'm working on has not changed by a single percent during the 5 years and a half I have been using my mid-2015 15 inch Macbook Pro (Core i7).
2015 MacBook Pro, 500gb ssd, only 169 battery cycles on original battery. I use it only for investing, trades (no day trading), charting, etc. It seems very good and speedy still to me. But we all know that that means nothing!!!! I want a m2 MacBook Air with 16gb, 556 ssd...I feel guilty about it. And I can get it reasonably cheap with Apple refurbished and the military discount.
I'm about to get rid of my 2015 macbook pro for a M1 Air, very interesting video and I can't wait !!!
how did it go?
Wow!
I'm from Brazil, thank you so much for the video. I have a MacBook pro 15, i5, and my machine is so tired......
The intro was totally Nice! Congrats
Qual OS você tá? O meu roda lisinho com o Mojave.
@@Clodd1 Estou rodando o Big Sur, eu sempre mantenho atualizado.
@@danielbonato Deve ser isso. Ele já tá cansado mesmo pro Big Sur.
@@Clodd1 cada s.o. piora mais. Kkkk mas tenho receio de deixar desatualizado
@@danielbonato Receio por quê?
hahaha the intros each time😂
Reminds me “I’m a Mac” - “I’m a PC” Apple ads😸
I still have an i7 from 2013 and I still do development work on it but the M1 is really impressive! If I had to purchase a computer today, I would probably go with the M1 Pro 16" base model! It is a beast!
The most unimpressive thing is the soldered SSD which results in a dead and repair less computer in a few years
My “vintage” MacBook Pro still does a great job. I can’t help but feel that the M1 chip is “cheating” somehow. How could this be ? Tiny little chip, runs cool and fast , no fans needed ... was the intel chip so really terrible in comparison ? I have trouble accepting this. What’s the “secret sauce” ?
The M1 a different architecture that’s more efficient (ARM), and it also has an integrated system of cores and memory. The “cheating” part is that you can’t upgrade anything
Great video, specially for the benchmark.
Here's my output, since I have a 2015 MBP, but higher specs. Keep in mind I ran the test with my regular windows opened and usage:
** BUILD SUCCEEDED ** [335.768 sec]
System Version: 12.6.2
Xcode 14.2
Hardware Overview
Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro11,5
Processor Name: Quad-Core Intel Core i7
Processor Speed: 2,8 GHz
Total Number of Cores: 4
L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB
L3 Cache: 6 MB
Number of Processors: 1
Hyper-Threading Technology: Enabled
Memory: 16 GB
✅ XcodeBenchmark has completed
1⃣ Take a screenshot of this window (Cmd + Shift + 4 + Space) and resize to include:
- Build Time (See ** BUILD SUCCEEDED ** [XYZ sec])
- System Version
- Xcode Version
- Hardware Overview
- Started 11:27:14
- Ended 11:32:58
- Date domingo, 22 de enero de 2023, 11:32:58 CET
Great videos and sense of humour!
Thanks
I love my mbp 2015 so much, but when the new m1 came out, I know that I have to switch to it as my daily drive.
I'm gonna miss the hdmi port, the magsafe, and the glowing apple sign😭
The 2015 MacBook Pro was a great machine. I still miss it
Hear you bro. Just made the switch...2015 MacBook Pro to M1 Air. I loved my old machine and it used to be adequate for browsing and casual use but when I started even simple games, the fan would go loco. Sounds silly but that was one of the main reasons I made the switch plus they gave me a decent trade in...but ey man the glowing sign and MagSafe are legendary features. features. :(
Hey, what’s better to buy pro 2015 or air m1 8/256?
@@user-he1dw1yh6u depends on your needs and budget. 2015 MBP is still a great device for normal browsing and admin stuff. The fan would go crazy everytime I launched a game though.
@@AveenB what about music production and film production & editing
Amazing start !!! Nice Video !!! Thank you !!!
I’m still rockin the “ancient of days” late 2013 Macbook Pro Retina. But I’m seriously pondering updating to Macbook Air M1
me too, I think I'm going to wait till the m2 air in 2022. I'm on a 2015 13.3 inch pro
Same here. I have to make my decision soon, so it's either MBA M1 for a 1000$, or the newer MBP 14 (all I can dream of), but for a 2000$ price, which is to much... :(
@@VictorShiryaev my memory finally crapped out, I asked my son if he wanted it and I’d upgrade the memory to 1TB for him. He said yes, so in that case I decided on the Mac Mini because of cost. Got the Mac Mini and he then tells me he doesn’t have a use for the 2013 Macbook Pro. So now I have a rebuilt 😂
That old man😂😂😂. U so creative mn, keep it up. 👏
Love the intro bro!
I still keep my MacBook Pro 2015 because I´ve all the ports I need... so pretty convenient since I travel a lot.
Thank you for making an awesome video and it is very informative especially for those who are going to learn apple development.
Surprised that the difference is that big. I switched from 2013 > MacBook Air M1 and it rocks. I even don't use my ryzen machine anymore.
please
what is the configuration ryzen ?
@@luizcox1 Ryzen 3600 / 32 gb / 5700 xt
@@sder-v2v thanks!
great video again! 💙 loved the intro..
Thanks 😊
I am using one 2015 right now, it works just fine...
Sure does
Thanks for the video! Really helpful stuff! Please do more comparison videos 🙏
Spasibo!🤙
The 13" MacBook Pro with Intel Core i5-4258U CPU @ 2.40Ghz is actually Late 2013 model. Not 2015. The Early 2015 13" MacBook Pro (the last one before Apple dropped the SD slot) has i5 5257U @ 2.7GHz or i5 5287U @ 2.9GHz.
How good is the old MacBook pro for a Computer science student?
Luckily only very few people need building XCode on a cramped 13 inch screen.
For normal 13 inch on-the-go work, the difference is not so big. 80% of the power consumption is for the screen, and the old one has a 50% larger battery. Also the 400 nit P3 display has potentially more power consumption than sRGB 300 nits. Combine that with better ports, a much cleaner and sturdier built, a better range of OS-selection (incl. Linux and Windows, but also the best OSX Mojave) and above all the stellar price, a nice kept 2015 is only 300 bucks today, and feels every bit as modern as the M1. The 2015 even boots faster!
thank you for the comparison
Old video but answered my question. I have a 2015 15inch MacBook pro and was wanting to know if I could use it as a beginner to code. Thank You.
I have 2015 15" and you forgot to mention that the 2015 MBPs' fan noise is much lower than the 16" Intel MBP
this is the video..nice one..
if you can find some lenovo legion 5 or something in that category.
and do a comparison on coding rather than gaming it would ve great to see..since legion 5 and air m1 are on same price .
Hi, to start editing videos, which one would you recommend the most? the 2015 Macbook Pro 13" i5 or the 2015 MacBook Pro 15.4" i7, without having to spend a lot of money, greetings from Peru.
Not a fair comparison, Bir Sur is not optimised for 2015 machines. Mojave (or lower) vs M1 MB would be ok.
Not fair at all :)
Appreciate the comparison. I'm still using an early 2015 Macbook, but man, the retina screen is broken (seeing green dots all over it when under natural light, although you can't see it at all when using the Macbook indoors, so it works there), the battery is broken (usable for maybe 3 to 4 hours max until it has to be charged again), and bluetooth doesn't work anymore. I would like to hold off for a Macbook Air with Mini LED and no bezels, but that probably won't happen until late 2022, so I don't know. I'm probably going to wait at least until the next Apple event.
It's ur time now, to make ur purchase 😁
At 0:58 you say that you will put the exact specs of your 2015 Macbook in the description, but you did not. I'm not nitpicking, I was genuinely interested because I happen to own a "2015 Macbook", but mine doesn't even look like yours (I have a 15'' model, yours look like a 13''). So, which exact 2015 Macbook do you have?
check at 4:53
I'm using the 2015 Macbook Pro. it's extremely slow when connects with an external monitor. CPU usage is heavy(kernel task eats the CPU). anyone is facing the same problem? i tried all the options from forums(reset, restart). I'm using Catalina(will it be the reason for it)?
I'm using the 2015 mid pro 2.5GHz 16GB RAM and also noticing lags when connected to my 4k external monitor. Even though i use gfxCardStatus its still lagging. And Never had problems before but on the latest big sur updates it just feels slower and slower so maybe it's true what they say about apple updates..
Oh shit, I have an 2015 Macbook Pro (16GB) and a M1 Macbook Air
[Fan speeding up]
So you don’t have to use the newest mbp to make ios app. Right?
Is MBP 15 inch 2015 (i7, 16gb ram) enough for Apple development in 2022? for swift especially. And maybe a little bit video editing.
I still have. 2013 MBP, but I’m desperate to upgrade. 😀
Hello! are you using a M1 Macbook aIr with 8gb ram or 16gm ram?
16GB
I have an MBP late 2012 13', and it still nice with office work, but if you will use Chrome (3-4tabs) + messenger + something like numbers it will be 80-90 C. So you can't work when it on your knees.. so I will buy a new one next month.
I hope it will be as everybody says (just awesome after the old one)
You just need to replace thermal paste. I have 2012 13 i5, 8 GB 256 SSD. It can easily handle 30 tabs on chrome, Photoshop running and uncountable finder windows.
It gets hot, yep but runs smoothly
i'm watching this on my 2014 macbook air 1.4ghz i5 dual core, 4gb ram and 1400 battery cycles. I think i'm ready for M1
Can M1 Macbook Air handle heavy work ?
Hey Alexander Ziskind,
I guess you’re using the 2014 MacBook Pro as the processor config you’ve mentioned in the description doesn’t match with the 2015 (i5-5257u). Correct me if I’m wrong.
Edit:- the video is great!
I’m using a pro mid 2012 and it works very well, but I’m thinking upgrade my laptop, but I don’t know if I must choose M1 or intel MacBook Pro for react native and web development, which one do you recommend?
React native works on the M1 now. I’m waiting for the next generation until I switch over. But if you need a machine right away, then the M1 is a good one
if rn better intel and wait . most work i do in imac 2017 instead m1 . Reason : i scare keyboard fiasso and only used when needed meet client ,travel
I'm waiting for my Macbook Air m1 to deliver. Switching from pro mid 2012. I'm majorly a react developer and based on my research I think Air will get my job done.
Is it worth buying MacBook Pro instead of MacBook Air both with M1? Apparently there is no big difference in performance or is it?
@@Jorgsalas i previously got some issue with mariadb cannot install via homebrew and making sample code using swift ui, really unsure it will work or not(not youtuber fake testing style).Performance vise mostly the same and if you do high proc still battery is down fast. Worthy no if you aren't urgent . Wait for new m1x if said so release. I main work still on imac intel not m1
new subscriber here 🙌🙌🙌
thank you for this video because I’m really comparing to buy MacBook Pro mid 2015 or MacBook Air M1 2020. I’m tied between budget vs performance but after watching this video I think I’m gonna buy the MacBook Air M1 2020 16GB RAM 256 SSD on education pricing. I will used it for learning web development 🙇♂️
I would be interesting to test air m1 vs macbook 16 with windows (nodejs, java, c#).
Cant you just install the next intel processor that comes out into the 2015 macbook?
Which one buy
Mac pro 2017 16gb 512
Or
M1 base 8gb 256
Please guide me specially use for xcode
M1
MacBook Pro 2015 was peak MacBook imo 👌🏻
I wonder what the sound comparison is like
Can you test M1 on Macbook Pro with Intel i5 10th generation Macbook Pro for react native build?
Save money people, save time. Get the M1. Time is money.
That’s what I’m saying
First thank you for these videos, second can you also do node on these machines and finally third please use the time command 😅
😂
thank you
Thanks for actually doing this! lol
I’m still using my MacBook Pro 13” 2009.
Planning on upgrading this year to an M1 (or maybe M1X)
Whoa 😮 that’s 12 years old. Just curious, what do you use it for?
@@AZisk xCode mostly. Before web developing. Starcraft 2 on spare time.
I have upgraded the RAM, changed the trackpad (broken on altitude), the battery, the fan and 3 times the HD
Using Catalina (patch)
I think you’ll find a big difference with the new M1 - oops did I say big? I meant HUGE
you should be next Wolverine.
my sideburns aren’t long enough
The price difference of MACs in the US vs in Central Europe is ridiculous. A nice 256Gb 2015 MacBook Pro costs in Hungary (where I live) about 700 US dollars worth of money. Maybe 600 if not in perfect condition. Adding that the American wages are usually about 3 times higher means a used mac may be15! times cheaper for a US buyer than for a central-eastern European one.15! Now, If I wanna add a 1TB SSD, then I am talking 800$. Straight appalling. You guys not only have a great economy but freaken' low prices. Wtf. I guess what we get is free healthcare, cheap housing, and cheap booze, clubs and services. I will need to add this up sometime. Sorry, got a bit carried away.
Wasn't Hungary about female aesthetics? USA has no answer to that.... Be easy on the booze and enjoy looking at someone or touching your own body, depending on your gender and preference. Here it is literally in the middle. Used MBP in good condition 300-350€, wages decent, expensive-but-solid healthcare and most important, time to enjoy short/few working days and being a bakfietsmom part-time.
Isn't the SSD in the Air vastly faster than that in the Pro?
They are vastly different machines in pretty much every single way
make a video for golang installation and comparison on M1.
thanks for your video. Now I would like to buy the New MacBook. Should I buy the MacBookAir M1 or Pro M1?? I am developer base on Node, Mongo, Meteor, Vue, React...
The MacBook Pro will probably have a better resale value than the MacBook Air. If you’re deciding between those two, get the Pro
@@AZisk very thanks
wow, that’s insane
Man. This is exhilarating just joined today🤣🤣🤣🤣
welcome
How about the performance if you have a xamp or a mamp raising an api and a DB at the same time that you have a hybrid application running such as Ionic and a front in Angular?
I haven’t done this specific a test, but perhaps one day I will
16GB of RAM with 8 cores will always beat 8GB or RAM dual core.
No question about that. The question is by how much?
New subscriber here
Welcome
ram drive - derived data .. faster faster hahah
It's like. In Ukraine used macbook pro 2015 in good condition costs at least 800 usd. I prefer m1 new MacBook for 1200 usd
Whoa 😮. That is crazy expensive for the 2015
@@AZisk yes. But it is true.
One very interest and let's say important point on this topic: I think ( like me) a lot of people noticed that a computer getting tired in years.
As an example: "8GB Ram + i5 CPU computer" after 4-5 years of intensive usage, does not have the same performance as before.
If I'm not right, and this issue related only to old HDDs, please correct me.
Thank you !
Yeah u are right. He did say that when he first got it, it was 10 minutes
It sure feels that way
This is not true. Next time you get a new computer, run a benchmark. Run the benchmark again several years later. Unless something is really really wrong with your computer, the benchmark result will be the same.
I know that the performance of the main program I'm working on has not changed by a single percent during the 5 years and a half I have been using my mid-2015 15 inch Macbook Pro (Core i7).
put 64 gb ram drive , yes its not correcto
no. you need to clean the dirt off the vents.
Instant like
Thanks!
Cringe but funny 😂😂
2015 MacBook Pro, 500gb ssd, only 169 battery cycles on original battery. I use it only for investing, trades (no day trading), charting, etc. It seems very good and speedy still to me. But we all know that that means nothing!!!! I want a m2 MacBook Air with 16gb, 556 ssd...I feel guilty about it. And I can get it reasonably cheap with Apple refurbished and the military discount.