Keiichi was absolutely stoked on the car, he did more laps than anyone during WTAC I’d reckon. He might have been the oldest driver there but he had the most energy and the most excitement. Let fans into the garage for photo ops as well, what a champ. Can’t wait for the next WTAC!!
This! People are so misinformed about ABS and think its the devil, but nothing makes you lose more time at the track than missing a corner because you locked your brakes and or spend your time trying to figure out breaking force that can change because of so many variables all the time.
People trash it because, as the dude said; proper race spec ABS =/= normal ABS. Normal ABS is designed to prevent an accident, that's it. Actually 'tripping' ABS is slower than not doing so on a track, just like locking up when braking so it really doesn't make a difference as long as you know what you're doing, just if you delete it you've got a few less things in the engine bay. Yes, ABS can and is absolutely good at this tier, but fucking no one's going to drop $9K on something that they're basically never going to use unless they're doing some serious track driving.
Thats why (most of) racing is so cool, you control the car, not the other way around. If you miss the apex or/and a couple tens of a second because you lock up or didnt used the needed, perfect brake pressure you will work and try to do better on the next lap, and better on the next one. Until its not possible to be faster on that brake zone and turn in. Sure, the car could be easier to drive, more consistent, even faster, but so could with lots of other upgrades. The driver should allways be the limiting factor on the car pace.
@@dyIanVII Couldn't disagree more - the M5 ABS kit is nothing like your road car ABS system. The performance this offers is ridiculous. Here's 2 cars Jamie Whincup coming out of the Chase at Bathurst at nearly 300kph, he has to start braking almost straight away at the 200m mark. Now look at Chris Miles in the R8 gt3 car. Flys past 200, flies past the 150m board and buries the brakes at the 120m board at roughly 295kph! without ABS www.supercars.com/videos/championship/onboard-whincups-pole-taking-bathurst-lap/ with ABS th-cam.com/video/9iGW7YbGvuw/w-d-xo.html There's a reason these are flying out the door at 10,000 a pop
Wooo yeah wayyyy to much for me unless I get them as a sponsor which is doubtful. That being said, for a racing team, that's a decent price for the gains to be had. I wonder how it'll do in a rally case with snow and loose surfaces.
I saw this system several years ago n it was hella expensive. The price for the club sports version with universal wiring harnesses is +7K with specific car harness is +9K plus I don’t think it includes the calibration and tuning software 🤷♂️ So, i guess this is the +12K version of the Bosch Motorsports ABS M5 Clubsport Kit 😓
Is this available in a Four Corner ABS system so as to allow integration of traction control when driving spiritedly on ice 765 NM can be sketchy getting off from a start.
is this system to add ABS to a non abs car or can this also be a replacement for cars that already have an ABS system from the factory.. like if i would get a roadcar and want to bolt on stuff for trackdays and some more agressive driving.. dispite the price because im wondering if its usefull or not it i have a car with an ABS system thats outdated.. can i upgrade it with something like this??
@@MotiveVideo cool.. i got an opel omega from 2003( holden commodore platform) some stuff is outdated... and looking for replacement parts .. witch is kind of hard when the factory doesnt make those most of the parts anymore...
@@MotiveVideo the cost i mentioned was just from a quick search and was in US $ . so that eats up your $10-20k being AUS $. and that doesn't include the actual brakes, or their interfacing to EMS , if said person has an EMS that's compatible . and i get its for a race car more so than a street car , or the avg persons build plan . and that teams have big budgets . this just isn't something 99% of your subs will be willing or wanting to realistically spend their $ on . easy for a driver to say its not a lot of money , when its not his money buying the parts.
Obviously gives consistent and good quality audio. If they touch the mic to their chin its sitting steady and not moving in and out of the ideal audio pickup range.
Glad you asked. People aren’t interview trained so they tend to move their arm around and don’t keep the mic in the same spot, often dropping it too low and making for bad sound. We tell them to “just lightly rest it under your chin” and then it stays there, nice and close to pick up good sound when loud background noise and it doesn’t cover their mouth.
Is this just some random guy thats bobbing around tracks in 'stralia, with that one iconic driver name on the window and the matching helmet and fire suit?? Or is it actually him? By the driving style, I'd say no it's not him?
most nissan cars wit the attesa system use this skyline and most new model suv use the abs to break the wheels individually wit the use of the yaw sensor etc
@@tararamrattan7233 This is a motorsport setup, your talking about normal road car abs brakes from the 1950's tottally different- Its like saying "you know the v8 engines in Formula 1 in 2013? Ford had v8's in the 1920's"
Learn how to Fkn drive is my abs ,, we put everything in bubble wrap nowadays , even race cars now for the new generation of sissy racers and drivers and he said it it does everything for you pfffffffffffffff please just buy a Honda jazz
@@MotiveVideo been racing on uk circuits for years and never needed and most competitors are the same no aids , and if u drive on the right tyres and brakes they do there work as should , and as a driver u are meant to be at one with the car feeling it all ! All abs does is take away the raw driving experience, if it locks up deal with it don't just keep the panic pedal depressed !!
@@gaz10182 what a load of horseshit v8 supercar braking at 200m board no ABS 290kp/h r8 gt3 braking at 120m ABS How you gonna "deal with it" when the wheel locks up at 295kp/h coming out of the chase genius with 120m left till the apex? www.supercars.com/videos/championship/onboard-whincups-pole-taking-bathurst-lap/ th-cam.com/video/9iGW7YbGvuw/w-d-xo.html
Keiichi was absolutely stoked on the car, he did more laps than anyone during WTAC I’d reckon. He might have been the oldest driver there but he had the most energy and the most excitement. Let fans into the garage for photo ops as well, what a champ. Can’t wait for the next WTAC!!
Not quiet. He did 21 laps over the Fri/Sat, which is still a good amount.
An MX5 in Clubsprint & an MR-S in Open both did 37, which was the most.
This would be awesome on No Secrets.
It would be awesome if they can make a more mellow version for enthusiasts rather than full on racers
Go get a mk60 out of a e46 bmw
This! People are so misinformed about ABS and think its the devil, but nothing makes you lose more time at the track than missing a corner because you locked your brakes and or spend your time trying to figure out breaking force that can change because of so many variables all the time.
People trash it because, as the dude said; proper race spec ABS =/= normal ABS. Normal ABS is designed to prevent an accident, that's it. Actually 'tripping' ABS is slower than not doing so on a track, just like locking up when braking so it really doesn't make a difference as long as you know what you're doing, just if you delete it you've got a few less things in the engine bay.
Yes, ABS can and is absolutely good at this tier, but fucking no one's going to drop $9K on something that they're basically never going to use unless they're doing some serious track driving.
Thats why (most of) racing is so cool, you control the car, not the other way around. If you miss the apex or/and a couple tens of a second because you lock up or didnt used the needed, perfect brake pressure you will work and try to do better on the next lap, and better on the next one. Until its not possible to be faster on that brake zone and turn in. Sure, the car could be easier to drive, more consistent, even faster, but so could with lots of other upgrades. The driver should allways be the limiting factor on the car pace.
@@dyIanVII Couldn't disagree more - the M5 ABS kit is nothing like your road car ABS system.
The performance this offers is ridiculous. Here's 2 cars Jamie Whincup coming out of the Chase at Bathurst at nearly 300kph, he has to start braking almost straight away at the 200m mark.
Now look at Chris Miles in the R8 gt3 car. Flys past 200, flies past the 150m board and buries the brakes at the 120m board at roughly 295kph!
without ABS www.supercars.com/videos/championship/onboard-whincups-pole-taking-bathurst-lap/
with ABS th-cam.com/video/9iGW7YbGvuw/w-d-xo.html
There's a reason these are flying out the door at 10,000 a pop
Finally a performance based ABS system. I love it but can probably never afford it 🤣 (haven't looked up the prices yet)
I did. And it is not cheap. Over 7000$
First price I found (assuming this is the M5 Clubsport kit) was 5775 Euros, which is $9485AUD lol.
Wooo yeah wayyyy to much for me unless I get them as a sponsor which is doubtful. That being said, for a racing team, that's a decent price for the gains to be had. I wonder how it'll do in a rally case with snow and loose surfaces.
@Unicorn GTR You paid over $7000 for fronts only?! 😳
I got mine on Crustida for $4000. 355mm rotors, 6 pot calipers. 👍
"Finally"? It's been around for so long, easily more than a decade.
I saw this system several years ago n it was hella expensive. The price for the club sports version with universal wiring harnesses is +7K with specific car harness is +9K plus I don’t think it includes the calibration and tuning software 🤷♂️ So, i guess this is the +12K version of the Bosch Motorsports ABS M5 Clubsport Kit 😓
all those engineers and programmers must get rich somehow
How does the Bosch system compare with the Continental one?
Or use the Teves MK60 ABS from the E46 M3. Still programmable, but $1000 altogether.
Not in same class, mk60 is primitive
@@claudiumxg1 you can get a motorsports flash on certain units. Essentially the same as the Bosch unit at that point
@@Hole_Motorsports no IMU on Teves unit, is about 20years old tech, nothing to do with a curent M5 unit, but still ok.for price
Pretty sure ABS is banned in a lot of circuit motorsport classes ;) Certainty in Sports Sedans. The reason for these bans is to help limit costs.
Great video! Good info! 🤙
Is this available in a Four Corner ABS system so as to allow integration of traction control when driving spiritedly on ice 765 NM can be sketchy getting off from a start.
is this system to add ABS to a non abs car or can this also be a replacement for cars that already have an ABS system from the factory.. like if i would get a roadcar and want to bolt on stuff for trackdays and some more agressive driving.. dispite the price
because im wondering if its usefull or not it i have a car with an ABS system thats outdated.. can i upgrade it with something like this??
It can can go in any car with 4 wheels
@@MotiveVideo cool.. i got an opel omega from 2003( holden commodore platform) some stuff is outdated... and looking for replacement parts .. witch is kind of hard when the factory doesnt make those most of the parts anymore...
@@gewoontimm I wouldn't spend $10,000 on an ABS for an Opel Omega -
Does he still have live rear axle or some other subframe in it ? 🤙🏻
1:05 looks like a solid axle
'its free time , for not a lot of money " . . . . . its a $7000-13,000 kit....
That's not a whole lot of money at the pointy end of racing
@@magnetic0314 certainly isn't something that caters to the crowd they're promoting it too then , is it ? .
That’s bigger all even at mid field in a time attack car. Considering you spend minimum 10-20K on every department of the car.
Well when you spend 6 figures on a time attack car 7k isnt much
@@MotiveVideo the cost i mentioned was just from a quick search and was in US $ . so that eats up your $10-20k being AUS $. and that doesn't include the actual brakes, or their interfacing to EMS , if said person has an EMS that's compatible . and i get its for a race car more so than a street car , or the avg persons build plan . and that teams have big budgets . this just isn't something 99% of your subs will be willing or wanting to realistically spend their $ on . easy for a driver to say its not a lot of money , when its not his money buying the parts.
amazing video
Andrew why does everyone you interview put the mic right into there chin? Just curious.
Obviously gives consistent and good quality audio. If they touch the mic to their chin its sitting steady and not moving in and out of the ideal audio pickup range.
Glad you asked. People aren’t interview trained so they tend to move their arm around and don’t keep the mic in the same spot, often dropping it too low and making for bad sound. We tell them to “just lightly rest it under your chin” and then it stays there, nice and close to pick up good sound when loud background noise and it doesn’t cover their mouth.
yeah but I mean ho much is it?
nice video bro
Drift King!!
Is this just some random guy thats bobbing around tracks in 'stralia, with that one iconic driver name on the window and the matching helmet and fire suit?? Or is it actually him?
By the driving style, I'd say no it's not him?
its him, hes came out to WTAC last 2 years that i know of and drives this AE86
Yep it’s him and he was probably the most excited and friendliest person in the pits. Loved the car
The driving style is typical Tsuchiya through and through
lol what are you talking about? He sent that shit, def him.
MK60 swap ends up being as good for a lot less$
in the video he says “for not a lot of money” uhhhh?
nissan has been using these exact systems for years now
in what cars?
In what cars?
most nissan cars wit the attesa system use this skyline and most new model suv use the abs to break the wheels individually wit the use of the yaw sensor etc
@@tararamrattan7233 This is a motorsport setup, your talking about normal road car abs brakes from the 1950's tottally different-
Its like saying "you know the v8 engines in Formula 1 in 2013? Ford had v8's in the 1920's"
Watch the video and read the description mate
Finally abs on cars are catching up to abs on bikes 😂😂😂..
hope not bikes brake and corner like shit, in the wet their useless
Learn how to Fkn drive is my abs ,, we put everything in bubble wrap nowadays , even race cars now for the new generation of sissy racers and drivers and he said it it does everything for you pfffffffffffffff please just buy a Honda jazz
If you want to be slower that’s your choice mate
@@MotiveVideo been racing on uk circuits for years and never needed and most competitors are the same no aids , and if u drive on the right tyres and brakes they do there work as should , and as a driver u are meant to be at one with the car feeling it all ! All abs does is take away the raw driving experience, if it locks up deal with it don't just keep the panic pedal depressed !!
@@gaz10182 what a load of horseshit
v8 supercar braking at 200m board no ABS 290kp/h
r8 gt3 braking at 120m ABS
How you gonna "deal with it" when the wheel locks up at 295kp/h coming out of the chase genius with 120m left till the apex?
www.supercars.com/videos/championship/onboard-whincups-pole-taking-bathurst-lap/
th-cam.com/video/9iGW7YbGvuw/w-d-xo.html
It’s not about needing it, it’s about using it to your advantage
@@JH-jo9wt big fuckin weight difference jh super hero obv it can brake l8r think b4 u open ur face flap not to mention wider wheels compared to a v8