This video helped me figure out why I don't feel the pressure in my bicep when I'm balls deep in the Kings Move! Giving up the hand/wrist pressures the bicep. I'm usually able to keep my hand straight which pushes the effort to my brachiosaurus (brachioradialis, lol)
@@dragonsdenarmwrestling What do you think about the King's Move in the scenario where it does end up fully supinated, and yet the hand stays in a seemingly neutral position because the King's Mover pivots on to the side of their elbow rather than resting on the point of their elbow? This is personally what I see as the "cheater King's Move" where the pronation is done from an end range fully supinated position where the arm won't supinate more or open up anymore in bicep angle. I'm fairly certain that Devon Larratt vs Dave Chaffee ended up in this position where Devon's arm couldn't be more supinated. While the King's Move seems more noble if described as maintaining pronation that could be potentially unwound, I believe it is rare to see an effective one that doesn't abuse some type of range of motion issue. If a person is truly able to keep their pronation in such a position, there's no reason they can't just do it while standing up and be just as effective if not more effective.
@Derby City Armwrestling the key here is in the rule set, if the humerus drops below parallel from the table they must be warned to come up. Now to understand why pronating and being opened up has stronger rotational power. The more straight your arm is creates an incredible amount of rotational force into your opponents hand. Where the open toproll is much lower rotational force but much greater back pressure. Ultimately no matter what the humerus must stay at parallel. If you lack the necessary back pressure to keep it there you will get pinned.
This video helped me figure out why I don't feel the pressure in my bicep when I'm balls deep in the Kings Move! Giving up the hand/wrist pressures the bicep. I'm usually able to keep my hand straight which pushes the effort to my brachiosaurus (brachioradialis, lol)
Excellent video, gentlemen!
Appreciate you man! I am glad it helps.
~Mac
Very well explained, thank you guys
Great explanation.
Damn he fine ❤
You need high riser or not?
vegeta goku
The Cheat Move, you mean
Only cheat if you don't understand it, it has a couple hard counters which we will be going into later
@@dragonsdenarmwrestling What do you think about the King's Move in the scenario where it does end up fully supinated, and yet the hand stays in a seemingly neutral position because the King's Mover pivots on to the side of their elbow rather than resting on the point of their elbow? This is personally what I see as the "cheater King's Move" where the pronation is done from an end range fully supinated position where the arm won't supinate more or open up anymore in bicep angle. I'm fairly certain that Devon Larratt vs Dave Chaffee ended up in this position where Devon's arm couldn't be more supinated. While the King's Move seems more noble if described as maintaining pronation that could be potentially unwound, I believe it is rare to see an effective one that doesn't abuse some type of range of motion issue. If a person is truly able to keep their pronation in such a position, there's no reason they can't just do it while standing up and be just as effective if not more effective.
@Derby City Armwrestling the key here is in the rule set, if the humerus drops below parallel from the table they must be warned to come up.
Now to understand why pronating and being opened up has stronger rotational power. The more straight your arm is creates an incredible amount of rotational force into your opponents hand. Where the open toproll is much lower rotational force but much greater back pressure.
Ultimately no matter what the humerus must stay at parallel. If you lack the necessary back pressure to keep it there you will get pinned.