I think that we should strive to prevent super apps from existing and becoming popular. It’s a very dangerous path. Imagine if a breach happens at a super app - everything, from finance to social media is leaked
Imagine X was a super app and they banned you for life without any warning or explanation like I was... I still have no clue why I was banned. A couple of months ago I just got told I would not be allowed to post or like any tweet for breaking their rules. I emailed them asking what rule did I break? The only response I got was 'you are banned for life...do not contact us again!' WTF? Musk is such a fraud! (Maybe it was my tweeting against their 'freedom of speech, not freedom of reach' policy. Musk is such a fraud!)
Not only that. If you criticize Elon Musk or Tesla on social media. He's vindictive enough to get twitter and private investigators to threaten legal action against the employers of the posters. Also standard Tesla purchase agreements have arbitration, secrecy clauses to keep disputes under wraps and prevent class action lawsuits. One tesla driver who returned his car didn't get his refund on his lemon and got blacklisted by suing Tesla. Giving Musk even more power to be a bigger asshole doesn't make sense.
I came from China and even I dont want a superapp. Potentially losing everything info to a single company is just scary. Much of China's centralization is driven by the government, as it's easier to control a few large companies than a mass of little ones. The superapp allows the government to control everything, from your bank accounts down to every text you type.
but still the government still have better longterm plan rather than other countries who have lobbyist as government. Even Jack Big Mouth Ma got spanked due to unregulated loan business proposal for ANT.
exactly, they also use this app to track and forbid, block your use of transportation when they see fit, if you are gonna complain about something, or if you become 'unwelcome' somewhere.. is Big Brother dialed to the max...
@@Skyumi-VkWhich just goes to show the level of hubris demonstrated by Musk, who evidently thought he could make it a huge success, but instead he has taken Twitter and trashed it completely.
@@mfundimkhize3137 There are several Tesla car accidents that say otherwise. Besides even if he could make his super apps private, there is no guarantee that he will make private.
Twitter was always a microblogging site with a VERY poor UI/functionality from the start (with TweetDeck making it somewhat usable). I remember Plurk being better back in 2008 with the 'microblogging wars'. How can a microblogging site be anything other than a microblogging site?
@@wow-sham1300bug reports and UX feedback is submitted on the regular. has been for years. xwitter doesn't care and doesn't listen. they deserve to fail. even more so with felon shmusk.
@wow-sham1300 there is none, the website is a cult of toxic social rejects and barely anything else, if X wants to make money , they should focus on p*rn, those degenerates will invest there life savings on it
WeChat was amazing to have when I lived in China. But to think of 1 megalomaniac owning such an app is scary. Good thing it looks destined to not happen... Twitter as a social site looks doomed without even considering add-ons.
As a Twitter user, I think one of the biggest problems with elon's approach is that most of the user base just do not care about X. Most of us actually hate this idea but still using because we dont have nowhere else to go. The moment a really great competitor appears the app is dead
@jeremiahbullfrog9288 no. He paid for a joke and his ego. He tried to back out and couldn't. He waived his due diligence, and when it was obvious he was stuck, he changed the narrative. You think he really cares about free speech (he bans people who say anything negative against hom or his companies)... or the environment (he personally pollutes more than 99% of people and his factories do more damage than most business, not including the poison of discarded lithium batteries) or any of "his causes". He only cares about conning money from the governments and you.
You forget about patented code. Sometimes there are simple codes that people would like to use but cant because another business patented it. So you couldnt clone Twitter even if its very simple code because youd be sued so youd spend a lot of energy rebuilding Twitter with different code to get you to the same place and that wastes a lot of money and may end up failing before it can even get a user base
The concept of having a “Super App” in my possession sounds very scary, which is why I avoid it and keep most of the stuff like financing or social media separate. I wouldn’t rely on a single app for everything I use, which could be the next BnL if that’s ever expanded on.
I'm surprised you didn't mention what I consider the strongest reason of all: Security Here in Brazil WhatsApp launched WhatsApp pay, I can't imagine ANYONE that would use it! The main reason is that there are a lot of scams that happen here in Brazil and the most often is cloning you account and asking for money with a story like "My card blocked I need X to pay a bill, I'll give it back to you by the end of the day". So people wouldn't DARE making it easier to be caught of guard. Also some suggest you should have a separate account for your saving so in the event of a kidnap you can just given them access to your day to day account. Security is the main reason people here don't trust putting everything in one place.
There already is a 'super app'. In fact, it's so super that you can't do anything on your computer without opening it. It is the system that the entire device operates on, so they called it an "operating system". And the name stuck!
I feel like the closest thing to an "everything app" is Google's "Google Mobile Services (GMS)" which requires OEMs to preinstall a collection of Google apps on their devices in order to have Google Play (and platform support generally) for their Android devices. I suppose you could call the iPhone an everything app as well - all of their products and services are preinstalled.
@@LogicallyAnswered yeah agreed. Facebook also seems like a super app until you realize, like you said, mostly the ad portion is lucrative. But they have video and marketplace and games, in addition to the primary social feed ... Pretty wild. Also a cluttered mess lol
Apple iCloud when used either directly or via devices has payments, e-mail, messaging, libraries for pictures/notes/music/etc., Maps, TV, phone connectivity, streaming for TV/Music that can be shared etc. It's not one app but a single point.
musk claims he wants to be your bank, your mortgage provider, sell you any security or other investment, as well as all the other things. your iphone won't sell you a house.
I would not count MS Edge as a failure. It is actually a pretty decent browser and feels way smoother than chrome has some useful functionalities. I mainly use it on my work devices with MS 365. Awesome combination
There's old Edge and new Edge. The old one failed so much that MS said screw it and rebuilt it completely as a fork of Google's Chromium. Of course they kept the same name to hide their shame and confuse people.
@@ComradeFranathey kept the same name to keep their branding consistent. Not everything is a conspiracy there, Sport. Marketing basics. The growth in users means it’s working
Just because you and some other nerds (like me) think it's "pretty decent" doesn't invalidate the argument of it being a failure. In business sense it's an absolute failure. Could be good for MS's reputation long-term, but if the general population doesn't adopt it, it's absolutely a failure for the company.
5:02 - The problem is integration. Threads failed because not enough individuals that people want to follow were on it, and integration / usage on other sites + easy ways to find what people want is an issue
I think one of the (main?) reasons why a super app won't work in the US is because of privacy concerns. Americans don't like their information stored in and shared by one corporation/entity because it makes them easily vulnerable, so they choose and prefer to have them separately, even if it's an inconvenience [of remembering multiple login info and/or passwords].
People care more about not using apps that their parents use than ´privacy´. Meta,google and apple already have access to all usa population and most of the world population
Would love to see people do their banking using a social app. You discuss with your friend that you declared bankruptcy once a few years ago, and might do it again if your stock prices don't improve, then suddenly your bank denies that loan you were counting on. Just a coincidence i guess.
Any new financial app will not rely on traditional financial technology, Elon's goal of freedom will make any financial instrument reliant on blockchain and not traditional banking.
We already have "everything apps" - they're called operating systems and they allow you to plug in best of breed apps to accomplish specific tasks. Creating a single app with all this functionality baked in is destined to be a jack of all trades, master of none. It's also putting a hat on a hat.
Likely the biggest reason for a super app to exist in China is due to a lack of trust in trying new apps. Developing countries don't have a strong law and order system and scammers easily commit crimes without major backlash. If you're a super giant who has already earned the trust of customers then they'll likely trust you in other domains as well. They can't trust new ventures casually but they'll trust an established name. The same happens in a lot of developing countries. Taking an example of Tata group in India, they're selling automobiles, jewellery, software solutions, electrical infrastructure and a lot more. And they're getting a lot of customers because it's an established brand that can be trusted. That's why a lot of big companies fail in developing markets because they don't consider the hurdle of trust in the process of customer acquisition.
I think we're already very close to a super app with Android and iOS (and possibly the Amazon ecosystem too). Apple and Google may not be into social media (apart from TH-cam), but apart from that many people use those companies for their e-mail, payments, fitness data, cloud storage, maps, media and whatnot.
@@lawrencelopez9839This is a big problem with discussing this question, the difference between a super app vs a portal that links to different apps. I've never used weechat but I imagine it's closer to the former.
This idea of Americans “preferring” separate services is not real. Everyone prefer convenience. It’s just a matter of time until a “super app” comes along and will be a no brainer to use it.
the reasons Americans hate a Super app is not corporate companies, legally they can’t sell our data but the NSA can blackmail them to backdoor their data.
I owned and loved my windows phone. The main problem was android was the cool kid on the block so nobody was designing apps for Windows phones. I was sad to see it go. I am now an avid Linux user and still waiting for a solid Linux phone to move away from Android.
The other day, an ad popped up on a website. I clicked the x in the corner to get rid of it, and a twitter thing popped up. I was trying to close the ad with the x logo 😂
I don't like putting all my eggs in one basket. When U-Verse launched it was nice to have tv, internet, and phone in one but when one is down then everything is down.
Additionally, even if Americans did for some reason develop an interest in a super app I suspect that one built on top of the imploded remains of Twitter would not be most people's first choice.
Ever since X has allowed people to earn money, there's so much copy pasted content spam and people not willing to speak truth as it would turn into losing their followers.
I think Google+ failed because its design was weird and because people didn't see the need to invest in another one where Facebook had already conquered the market. And there was probably also already a perception among the young generation that TH-cam is for seniors.
I never understood the Apple credit card. There are a lot of entry level cards available. You can make any credit card your default Apple Pay card so what’s the point (this is for Canada anyway)
Essentially you already can do the majority of things on these social media platforms to some degree. And as dystopian as it sounds an "everything app" is tantalisingly convenient... until it gets hacked.
One of the reasons I distrust elon musk is because he's willing to make a super app and his only "compelling" reason is slightly more convenience when the downfalls for the consumer far far outweigh the positives. We already have china as a sufficient counterexample.
Great video, as always. Regarding the super app. I think that Google, Apple, Facebook accustomed us to so many shady and controversial practices that no one in US or Europe would like to have them as super app. However I think that there are two ways companies die, one is bankruptcy, the other one M&A and I immagine that at some point "FANG" companies will start to scoop out companies beyond their industry while maintaining the purchased company brand reputation in the industry. Quite frankly I'm surprised it didn't happen yet with this year banking failures (SVB, Signature bank etc.). I'm afraid that, if it happens in a crisis time, regulators and national institutions would even provide warrants as happened in the Swiss banking sector with the Credit Suisse - UBS merger, in normal times it would have triggered the anti-trust regulations.
By the way can you immagine if "X" gets bankrupt, Facebook can scoop the remaining IPs, scrap the "X" branding, bringing back the bird, using the Facebook moderation team and what remain of Threads on the new twitter and say "Twitter is back", I think that would be a chapter for future Management and Strategy textbooks.
@@c4rnage125 I haven't said that, I've said that they could still build their super-app by "rescuing" other companies from failure via total and partial acquisitions. Strategically would be a reasonable thing to do instead of building a new system from scratch via a trial and error process. As it is now, you will have a platform ecosystem when other players will have to play from a disadvantageous position.
@@gabrielebianchi8976 you may be right, sure and looking at Elon’s lack of strategy and .... erratic behaviour and involvement into politics seems annoying and I think this will hamper his business ethos, but I still am hopeful because I loved the bird app. But ... Free Speech is quite important for all of us, and meta isn’t the one that values free speech (you know all the conspiracies). Besides that .... I would trust anyone with my data ... not zuck, not meta.
Your Threads comment aged incredibly poorly. The recent launch in the EU has significantly bolstered it's active userbase. It aint going anywhere anytime soon. Especially since it's getting federation soon
I think if anyone can it's for sure Google. No one else has anywhere near the connections and users. Google is just way too important for everyday life. No other company is near that. @@ducksongfans
Musk has been failing on Tesla and SpaceX deliverables though. I'd feel bad for people he's scammed and duped but they're mostly rich people so I guess he's doing the world a service.
It's ten-sent I think, it's not translated from any Chinese word so it should just be how you would normally pronnounce it in english (which is ten-sent, since words like percent are pronnounced per-sent)
I look at it this way. If the businessman is asking you to trust him and only him while using multiple suppliers, like good businessmen and business-women suggest, why should I trust them?
Honestly, my main reason to never use a super app by X, is Elon Musk. I would never trust my data and money to a man that makes it a point to never obey rules and laws, who constantly changes the rules towards his customers with no regards to his contractual obligations or terms of service, and has repeatedly downplayed and downgraded the security within his own app to save money. Not the type I'd allow to get anywhere near my money or personal data.
Good video, thanks for this. Little side note on the script of your ad at the end. I think you want to say ‘does not mean sacrificing safety.’ And not ‘unsafety’, right?
I don't understand people wanting to put their whole lives into one thing whether its an app or something else. People already run their lives through their phones & don't seem to consider what could happen if something goes wrong. I wont be clamoring to get signed up.
The only thing I know is the only sure way to get Elon to succeed is to think he's going to fail. Every single business he owns has grown based on the assumption it would fail.
I don't want one mega asshole tech guy to have access to literally all of my information, my money, my friends, my hobbies, etc, and I don't want all of this stuff tied up in one app anyway because even mega companies like instagram and amazon, with all their redundancy, sometimes their apps go down. if my entire life is tied up in one single app and it goes down, that would be terrifying.
A Swiss Army Knife may be good at many things, but it can never be very good at any one particular thing. This is why many copycat wannabees from Big Tech companies fail, because they try to be good at another thing, when a dedicated company is very good at the very same thing.
The reason I won't be adopting X as my everything app, is because I know how Elon Musk treated Twitter employees. If he'll screw his own employees, he'll screw me too sooner or later.
the reason he screw his employees at twitter because they overstaff. Say, you hated someone and just said, you hated so and so, someone back at bird HQ was sitting that and deleting it as hate speech. Yes, Elon also sometimes acts total dumb which I too hate but hey no one is perfect.
I agree that there's a possibility twitter was overstaffed, but it was a company with a happy team. Elon leveraged his assets to buy twitter at a valuation more than it was worth, forcing him to try and make the company more profitable to pay for his dumb investment. By stripping twitter of most of its staff in a manner that there's evidence basically in public record of him treating staff very badly (including publicly accusing a disabled staff member of not doing any work and firing people by email). I really love and admire musks companies, and I want to be a fan of his work, but behaving like an asshole to your staff shouldn't be acceptable no matter how much you earn. Power corrupts, and sadly Elon is letting himself and his companies down, in my eyes. No hate for anyone here though, I'm just telling it how I see. @@c4rnage125
If Elon was successful in this, I think others would copy elon and do a better job. There isn't anything proprietary that Google or Apple wouldn't be able to do better given Elon's reputation basically.
I wouldn't mind a super app. It won't stop me drom simultaneously using the services I'm already subscribed to, but will be nice for the (once in a while) easy transactions.
super app is useful if it is of relevant stuff; kind of like how apple product integrate and make it convenient. But not if you are having a single company control random stuff like having apple own a bank, restaurants or so
Have left X a couple of weeks ago. It has become an 24/7 advertising channel for everything Elon Musk. The rest is Elon Musk's fanboys promotion everything their guru does, says, eats or drink. Unbearable. What we wanted was a platform for everyone, what we got was a platform for one rich guy. Great!
I honestly love when tech companies try this nonsense precisely because it _always_ fails. It shows they do not understand the masses at all. Go on, Elon, make your super app! I will be waiting by with popcorn to watch it fall 😀
But also, maybe Western audiences won't use a super-app. The chaebol East Asian style of one company having arms in all cakes under the same name, that might not appeal to the noncomformist Western citizens. That's more of an East Asiam thing, as far as I have seen.
The problem here is that these people want to make new apps instead of adding features to the apps that the have google has everything it needs to have a superapp in 20 separate apps just put it all together
I use Google Classroom, and find it to be an adequate learning management platform. I’ve taught long enough to remember when I kept and turned in a written record, no computer input to systems like Synergy with fully digitized student data including breakdowns to specific assignments.
_"Why Elon's Super App Is Destined To Fail"_ This isn't the first time someone has predicted failure for Elon lol In fact, ALL of his companies were supposed to fail. 😂🤣
Seems like some of your videos have missing information. The relationship between Apple Card and GS had some issues, and a black swan event occurred. It was the height of the pandemic, and people were buying a lot of tech and computers. I think the Apple Card had a 0% interest rate on long installment plans, so many people bought a lot of tech, tying up GS’s money. Time is money, and GS could have used that money for loans or other products and services that would have made them money instead of losing it. If GS didn’t have an issue with 0% interest, then they would still have been able to make money off the swipe fees and merchant fees. It was GS’s own fault for trying to break into the consumer finance side on terms that were unfavorable to them.
Elon musk is a scamer😂 , hyperloop, cybertech, solar roof top, spacex, boring company😂😂😂😂 all just used to hype his companies valuvation. Which is over 🔥
Altough musk isn´t the genius everyone believes, spaceX doesn´t belong on that list, spaceX is worth billions, they made ´space cheap´ and they get a lot of money from the usa government.
Great video as always. It would be great if you crop out a bit and include your hands and desk in the frame when you talk. It's very eerie. In the beginning I used to think it was some microphone issue or audio lag, but after being a long time subscriber and watching almost all your videos, I think it's just the frame which is zoomed in and feels very odd while you are explaining stuff. Good luck
You'd like to think, but I think, with how things are currently going, we get one 'bad' president and the wrong majority in congress and they would absolutely endorse a mandatory super app as long as they and congress got kickbacks. And I think that'll be the biggest hurdle for a super app in the US. Americans are jaded and tired. We already give away too much and to have some Billionaire come in and demand more? It won't happen.
PayPal failed. Tesla failed. SpaceX failed. Boring company failed. Neuralink failed. Yeah, I can see how you’re right. Elon has a history of failure. It’s a forgone conclusion… 😂
Poor of you guys to think that for X SuperApp to succeed it needs to be widely accepted in America. Most of you DO think America = the rest of the world, lol. All X need is for it to work in a big population country and a few smaller countries like in Europe.
Let's be real, the reason it's doomed is Elon. Twitter as a social platform is losing advertisers because of his antics. He should have not done the terrible rebrand, he should have tried to intergrate it with companies he had stakes in like Tesla. You can't be as outspoken as Elon and want to have an app that everyone wants to use, it won't work. You need to appear bland and generic as a company. But with twitter we mostly see it as Elon's playground. And we can't seperate the two because of how he destroyed the app.
I don’t think Americans would want a app that controls every aspects of their life. That sounds preposterous. Who in their right mind wants to be followed every step of their day??
I think that we should strive to prevent super apps from existing and becoming popular. It’s a very dangerous path. Imagine if a breach happens at a super app - everything, from finance to social media is leaked
Imagine X was a super app and they banned you for life without any warning or explanation like I was...
I still have no clue why I was banned. A couple of months ago I just got told I would not be allowed to post or like any tweet for breaking their rules. I emailed them asking what rule did I break? The only response I got was 'you are banned for life...do not contact us again!'
WTF?
Musk is such a fraud!
(Maybe it was my tweeting against their 'freedom of speech, not freedom of reach' policy. Musk is such a fraud!)
Yes, no need to follow China at every step
I was thinking we should try and prevent them more because of the reasons why China is able to have a super app.
Not only that. If you criticize Elon Musk or Tesla on social media. He's vindictive enough to get twitter and private investigators to threaten legal action against the employers of the posters. Also standard Tesla purchase agreements have arbitration, secrecy clauses to keep disputes under wraps and prevent class action lawsuits. One tesla driver who returned his car didn't get his refund on his lemon and got blacklisted by suing Tesla. Giving Musk even more power to be a bigger asshole doesn't make sense.
This is the entire plot of the anime movie Summer Wars.
I came from China and even I dont want a superapp. Potentially losing everything info to a single company is just scary. Much of China's centralization is driven by the government, as it's easier to control a few large companies than a mass of little ones. The superapp allows the government to control everything, from your bank accounts down to every text you type.
Never heard this point of view before
Cool
Precisely why I cant stand Google, Apple, Meta, Microsoft etc because these guys have TOO MUCH CONTROL
You already live in a super app regime, the only difference is that yoy just don't know it
but still the government still have better longterm plan rather than other countries who have lobbyist as government. Even Jack Big Mouth Ma got spanked due to unregulated loan business proposal for ANT.
exactly, they also use this app to track and forbid, block your use of transportation when they see fit, if you are gonna complain about something, or if you become 'unwelcome' somewhere.. is Big Brother dialed to the max...
Twitter just died yet again today.
Forget a super app, he doesn't even know how to run a functioning standard app.
Can't even run a sh*tposting app 😂 it's been entertaining to watch
Even Grok is out destroying Elon.
It wasn't a functioning app the thing was bought already in the tank lol
@@Skyumi-VkWhich just goes to show the level of hubris demonstrated by Musk, who evidently thought he could make it a huge success, but instead he has taken Twitter and trashed it completely.
It's also worth note that a super app has a lot of security vulnerabilities and privacy issues because of the complexity of its source code.
If bro can make reusable rockets and cool electric cars privacy concerns on an an app is child’s play.
@@mfundimkhize3137 There are several Tesla car accidents that say otherwise. Besides even if he could make his super apps private, there is no guarantee that he will make private.
China already made the app
@@Vinh1949 And look all the privacy and security nightmares that The Chinese are known for.
Again you’re on TH-cam = Google so be quiet thx
Before they make X into a "Super App". Maybe they should focus on improving the base functionallity first and do that well.
Twitter was always a microblogging site with a VERY poor UI/functionality from the start (with TweetDeck making it somewhat usable). I remember Plurk being better back in 2008 with the 'microblogging wars'. How can a microblogging site be anything other than a microblogging site?
any suggestions, its easy to criticize and not give advice
@@wow-sham1300advertising friendly content moderation
@@wow-sham1300bug reports and UX feedback is submitted on the regular. has been for years. xwitter doesn't care and doesn't listen. they deserve to fail. even more so with felon shmusk.
@wow-sham1300 there is none, the website is a cult of toxic social rejects and barely anything else, if X wants to make money , they should focus on p*rn, those degenerates will invest there life savings on it
WeChat was amazing to have when I lived in China. But to think of 1 megalomaniac owning such an app is scary. Good thing it looks destined to not happen... Twitter as a social site looks doomed without even considering add-ons.
It made sense for me in China only because so much of the real internet is blocked.
@@ladyeowyn42
What is the real internet?
Google?
As a Twitter user, I think one of the biggest problems with elon's approach is that most of the user base just do not care about X. Most of us actually hate this idea but still using because we dont have nowhere else to go. The moment a really great competitor appears the app is dead
Elon could have just made one app himself instead of paying for Twitter
Yeah but your missing the point. He's an idiot.
He paid for the audience not the app so much
Yeah, the audience is def very valuable
@jeremiahbullfrog9288 no. He paid for a joke and his ego. He tried to back out and couldn't. He waived his due diligence, and when it was obvious he was stuck, he changed the narrative. You think he really cares about free speech (he bans people who say anything negative against hom or his companies)... or the environment (he personally pollutes more than 99% of people and his factories do more damage than most business, not including the poison of discarded lithium batteries) or any of "his causes". He only cares about conning money from the governments and you.
You forget about patented code. Sometimes there are simple codes that people would like to use but cant because another business patented it. So you couldnt clone Twitter even if its very simple code because youd be sued so youd spend a lot of energy rebuilding Twitter with different code to get you to the same place and that wastes a lot of money and may end up failing before it can even get a user base
11:40 When he said "from X" I first thought it is a placeholder for 'some company', then realised the genius of Elons naming 😅
😂
Elon is just obsessed with the letter x. He's gen x and emotionally stuck in his 20s.
@@CanItAlready But it's super-rad!!!
Ex-Twitter.
The late parrot.
The concept of having a “Super App” in my possession sounds very scary, which is why I avoid it and keep most of the stuff like financing or social media separate. I wouldn’t rely on a single app for everything I use, which could be the next BnL if that’s ever expanded on.
I'm surprised you didn't mention what I consider the strongest reason of all: Security
Here in Brazil WhatsApp launched WhatsApp pay, I can't imagine ANYONE that would use it! The main reason is that there are a lot of scams that happen here in Brazil and the most often is cloning you account and asking for money with a story like "My card blocked I need X to pay a bill, I'll give it back to you by the end of the day". So people wouldn't DARE making it easier to be caught of guard. Also some suggest you should have a separate account for your saving so in the event of a kidnap you can just given them access to your day to day account. Security is the main reason people here don't trust putting everything in one place.
Brazilians sound smart.
Same. I would use specialised payments app for payments. Definitely not a social media app.
Super App = OS within an OS. Apps should do one thing and do it well.
This!! I completely agree.
There already is a 'super app'. In fact, it's so super that you can't do anything on your computer without opening it. It is the system that the entire device operates on, so they called it an "operating system". And the name stuck!
I feel like the closest thing to an "everything app" is Google's "Google Mobile Services (GMS)" which requires OEMs to preinstall a collection of Google apps on their devices in order to have Google Play (and platform support generally) for their Android devices.
I suppose you could call the iPhone an everything app as well - all of their products and services are preinstalled.
Yeah true. Those are def more of a platform/OS though as opposed to an app
@@LogicallyAnswered yeah agreed. Facebook also seems like a super app until you realize, like you said, mostly the ad portion is lucrative. But they have video and marketplace and games, in addition to the primary social feed ... Pretty wild. Also a cluttered mess lol
Apple iCloud when used either directly or via devices has payments, e-mail, messaging, libraries for pictures/notes/music/etc., Maps, TV, phone connectivity, streaming for TV/Music that can be shared etc. It's not one app but a single point.
musk claims he wants to be your bank, your mortgage provider, sell you any security or other investment, as well as all the other things. your iphone won't sell you a house.
Fortunately the awareness of de googled phones is growing. Google continues to control some of the phone network infrastructure though.
I would not count MS Edge as a failure. It is actually a pretty decent browser and feels way smoother than chrome has some useful functionalities. I mainly use it on my work devices with MS 365. Awesome combination
There's old Edge and new Edge. The old one failed so much that MS said screw it and rebuilt it completely as a fork of Google's Chromium. Of course they kept the same name to hide their shame and confuse people.
@@ComradeFranathey kept the same name to keep their branding consistent. Not everything is a conspiracy there, Sport. Marketing basics.
The growth in users means it’s working
@@zaderq1 Okay grandpa.
Just because you and some other nerds (like me) think it's "pretty decent" doesn't invalidate the argument of it being a failure. In business sense it's an absolute failure. Could be good for MS's reputation long-term, but if the general population doesn't adopt it, it's absolutely a failure for the company.
Edge is actually pretty decent, especially since google search is dead.
5:02 - The problem is integration. Threads failed because not enough individuals that people want to follow were on it, and integration / usage on other sites + easy ways to find what people want is an issue
threads failed bcuz it was lacing features and didn't do ANYTHING that twitter was not already doing
Well, we just got Threads in Europe. We'll see
I think one of the (main?) reasons why a super app won't work in the US is because of privacy concerns. Americans don't like their information stored in and shared by one corporation/entity because it makes them easily vulnerable, so they choose and prefer to have them separately, even if it's an inconvenience [of remembering multiple login info and/or passwords].
Only Americans gives a fk about Twitter, nobody really use or care about it outside US
Most people don't care about privacy
The average person doesn’t care lmao. You’re using google rn lmao
People care more about not using apps that their parents use than ´privacy´. Meta,google and apple already have access to all usa population and most of the world population
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Would love to see people do their banking using a social app. You discuss with your friend that you declared bankruptcy once a few years ago, and might do it again if your stock prices don't improve, then suddenly your bank denies that loan you were counting on. Just a coincidence i guess.
Having multiple financial accounts is about redundancy also. If one firm has a network failure or a hack, you can still buy things that day.
True, also spreading you eggs
If I spread, wouldn't that make my eggs vulnerable?
Any new financial app will not rely on traditional financial technology, Elon's goal of freedom will make any financial instrument reliant on blockchain and not traditional banking.
I have zero desire for a super app, too much room for one thing to go wrong and crash everything we need... Not keeping all my eggs in one basket
If you don't know who owns something in entertainment. Tencent owns it or a big chunk of it..
We already have "everything apps" - they're called operating systems and they allow you to plug in best of breed apps to accomplish specific tasks. Creating a single app with all this functionality baked in is destined to be a jack of all trades, master of none. It's also putting a hat on a hat.
Likely the biggest reason for a super app to exist in China is due to a lack of trust in trying new apps. Developing countries don't have a strong law and order system and scammers easily commit crimes without major backlash. If you're a super giant who has already earned the trust of customers then they'll likely trust you in other domains as well. They can't trust new ventures casually but they'll trust an established name.
The same happens in a lot of developing countries. Taking an example of Tata group in India, they're selling automobiles, jewellery, software solutions, electrical infrastructure and a lot more. And they're getting a lot of customers because it's an established brand that can be trusted.
That's why a lot of big companies fail in developing markets because they don't consider the hurdle of trust in the process of customer acquisition.
5:23 nobody says “Meta” in real life
It’s called Facebook
Not 1 person. Absolutely nobody. Not even Mr. Body himself
I think we're already very close to a super app with Android and iOS (and possibly the Amazon ecosystem too). Apple and Google may not be into social media (apart from TH-cam), but apart from that many people use those companies for their e-mail, payments, fitness data, cloud storage, maps, media and whatnot.
Ah true
well, if by super app you mean just a device with other apps installed on it then sure.
i think hes talking about the operating system not the hardware itself, im not so sure tho@@lawrencelopez9839
@@lawrencelopez9839This is a big problem with discussing this question, the difference between a super app vs a portal that links to different apps. I've never used weechat but I imagine it's closer to the former.
This idea of Americans “preferring” separate services is not real. Everyone prefer convenience. It’s just a matter of time until a “super app” comes along and will be a no brainer to use it.
the reasons Americans hate a Super app is not corporate companies, legally they can’t sell our data but the NSA can blackmail them to backdoor their data.
I owned and loved my windows phone. The main problem was android was the cool kid on the block so nobody was designing apps for Windows phones. I was sad to see it go. I am now an avid Linux user and still waiting for a solid Linux phone to move away from Android.
The other day, an ad popped up on a website. I clicked the x in the corner to get rid of it, and a twitter thing popped up. I was trying to close the ad with the x logo 😂
I don't like putting all my eggs in one basket. When U-Verse launched it was nice to have tv, internet, and phone in one but when one is down then everything is down.
Additionally, even if Americans did for some reason develop an interest in a super app I suspect that one built on top of the imploded remains of Twitter would not be most people's first choice.
Ever since X has allowed people to earn money, there's so much copy pasted content spam and people not willing to speak truth as it would turn into losing their followers.
Can anyone tell me the background music name ?
I think Google+ failed because its design was weird and because people didn't see the need to invest in another one where Facebook had already conquered the market. And there was probably also already a perception among the young generation that TH-cam is for seniors.
I never understood the Apple credit card. There are a lot of entry level cards available. You can make any credit card your default Apple Pay card so what’s the point (this is for Canada anyway)
Essentially you already can do the majority of things on these social media platforms to some degree. And as dystopian as it sounds an "everything app" is tantalisingly convenient... until it gets hacked.
Or, until you realize it is tool deliberately made to siphon your data.
One of the reasons I distrust elon musk is because he's willing to make a super app and his only "compelling" reason is slightly more convenience when the downfalls for the consumer far far outweigh the positives. We already have china as a sufficient counterexample.
Microsoft & Amazon completely failed in creating smartphones. That's all I need to know.
… just noticed, watching your video, that the Google logo is a 2:1 Lissajous pattern. I don’t remember much else about the video :-(
Cool video! keep making cool content like this! ❤
Thanks man, will do!
Great video, as always.
Regarding the super app. I think that Google, Apple, Facebook accustomed us to so many shady and controversial practices that no one in US or Europe would like to have them as super app.
However I think that there are two ways companies die, one is bankruptcy, the other one M&A and I immagine that at some point "FANG" companies will start to scoop out companies beyond their industry while maintaining the purchased company brand reputation in the industry.
Quite frankly I'm surprised it didn't happen yet with this year banking failures (SVB, Signature bank etc.).
I'm afraid that, if it happens in a crisis time, regulators and national institutions would even provide warrants as happened in the Swiss banking sector with the Credit Suisse - UBS merger, in normal times it would have triggered the anti-trust regulations.
By the way can you immagine if "X" gets bankrupt, Facebook can scoop the remaining IPs, scrap the "X" branding, bringing back the bird, using the Facebook moderation team and what remain of Threads on the new twitter and say "Twitter is back", I think that would be a chapter for future Management and Strategy textbooks.
Elon might have had a chance if he didn't ruin his social credit showing his ass on twitter. No one except his fanboys are going to trust him enough.
@@gabrielebianchi8976 you really want your freedom of speech by a company that doesn’t value it in first place?
@@c4rnage125 I haven't said that, I've said that they could still build their super-app by "rescuing" other companies from failure via total and partial acquisitions.
Strategically would be a reasonable thing to do instead of building a new system from scratch via a trial and error process.
As it is now, you will have a platform ecosystem when other players will have to play from a disadvantageous position.
@@gabrielebianchi8976 you may be right, sure and looking at Elon’s lack of strategy and .... erratic behaviour and involvement into politics seems annoying and I think this will hamper his business ethos, but I still am hopeful because I loved the bird app.
But ... Free Speech is quite important for all of us, and meta isn’t the one that values free speech (you know all the conspiracies).
Besides that .... I would trust anyone with my data ... not zuck, not meta.
We already have a "super app" in the form of super platforms. Google and Apple. A super app is redundant in the US.
Your Threads comment aged incredibly poorly. The recent launch in the EU has significantly bolstered it's active userbase. It aint going anywhere anytime soon. Especially since it's getting federation soon
You just made me change my mind. You really Live up to the name of your channel. Keep up
I think Google is the only company who could make a 'super app' succeed.
they couldnt
I hope they don't
I think if anyone can it's for sure Google.
No one else has anywhere near the connections and users. Google is just way too important for everyday life. No other company is near that. @@ducksongfans
I think i agree
google sucks at good services so much, there are little things they actually do well
Nobody was able to do it before so it couldn't be done. This is what exactly people said before Tesla, and SpaceX.
Let's see
Musk has been failing on Tesla and SpaceX deliverables though. I'd feel bad for people he's scammed and duped but they're mostly rich people so I guess he's doing the world a service.
Is Tencent *actually* pronounced "Ten-chent" and not "Ten-sent"? Because if it is I've been pronouncing it wrong the entire time.
I pronouce it "Ten-kent"
It's ten-sent I think, it's not translated from any Chinese word so it should just be how you would normally pronnounce it in english (which is ten-sent, since words like percent are pronnounced per-sent)
@@erikwang3378 Yeah, that's how you say it. I'm just
S T U P I D
I look at it this way. If the businessman is asking you to trust him and only him while using multiple suppliers, like good businessmen and business-women suggest, why should I trust them?
Honestly, my main reason to never use a super app by X, is Elon Musk. I would never trust my data and money to a man that makes it a point to never obey rules and laws, who constantly changes the rules towards his customers with no regards to his contractual obligations or terms of service, and has repeatedly downplayed and downgraded the security within his own app to save money. Not the type I'd allow to get anywhere near my money or personal data.
Good video, thanks for this. Little side note on the script of your ad at the end. I think you want to say ‘does not mean sacrificing safety.’ And not ‘unsafety’, right?
I don't understand people wanting to put their whole lives into one thing whether its an app or something else. People already run their lives through their phones & don't seem to consider what could happen if something goes wrong.
I wont be clamoring to get signed up.
The only thing I know is the only sure way to get Elon to succeed is to think he's going to fail. Every single business he owns has grown based on the assumption it would fail.
I don't want one mega asshole tech guy to have access to literally all of my information, my money, my friends, my hobbies, etc, and I don't want all of this stuff tied up in one app anyway because even mega companies like instagram and amazon, with all their redundancy, sometimes their apps go down. if my entire life is tied up in one single app and it goes down, that would be terrifying.
Great video Logically Answered and I like your videos so much :]
That beard trim brought you back about 10 years 😂ago
Who would be DUMB enough to give that crook access to their bank accounts?
Ah, now I see how his scam works.
there are people who pay for twitter 🤣
A Swiss Army Knife may be good at many things, but it can never be very good at any one particular thing.
This is why many copycat wannabees from Big Tech companies fail, because they try to be good at another thing, when a dedicated company is very good at the very same thing.
The reason I won't be adopting X as my everything app, is because I know how Elon Musk treated Twitter employees. If he'll screw his own employees, he'll screw me too sooner or later.
the reason he screw his employees at twitter because they overstaff. Say, you hated someone and just said, you hated so and so, someone back at bird HQ was sitting that and deleting it as hate speech. Yes, Elon also sometimes acts total dumb which I too hate but hey no one is perfect.
I agree that there's a possibility twitter was overstaffed, but it was a company with a happy team. Elon leveraged his assets to buy twitter at a valuation more than it was worth, forcing him to try and make the company more profitable to pay for his dumb investment. By stripping twitter of most of its staff in a manner that there's evidence basically in public record of him treating staff very badly (including publicly accusing a disabled staff member of not doing any work and firing people by email). I really love and admire musks companies, and I want to be a fan of his work, but behaving like an asshole to your staff shouldn't be acceptable no matter how much you earn. Power corrupts, and sadly Elon is letting himself and his companies down, in my eyes. No hate for anyone here though, I'm just telling it how I see. @@c4rnage125
Zune didn't fail! There are still Zune related files in every up-to-date Windows installation.
I think we just need a bridge. Something that can display what you want from any apps on any device.
If Elon was successful in this, I think others would copy elon and do a better job. There isn't anything proprietary that Google or Apple wouldn't be able to do better given Elon's reputation basically.
I wouldn't mind a super app. It won't stop me drom simultaneously using the services I'm already subscribed to, but will be nice for the (once in a while) easy transactions.
Hi, it's your big fan again😅
X, F B, Alphabet are all banned in China this may have something to do with 10 cents profit. What about Ant also?
I feel like there's not much that could stop X from introducing some sort of banking feature or Amazon integration.
Can we access emerging market Sovereign Bonds with Silo? A bunch of different countries have new bond issuances already this year.
Not currently, but will definitely keep this in mind for as a future feature
So 27 banks accounts each??? 11:00 Why??? This seems insane to an ordinary Australian. Ofc we have few banks.
super app is useful if it is of relevant stuff; kind of like how apple product integrate and make it convenient. But not if you are having a single company control random stuff like having apple own a bank, restaurants or so
Dose he bought Twitter for this reason or for the users on platform?
“I don’t care about the economics” He said. Now he’s crying about the economics 24/7
Have left X a couple of weeks ago.
It has become an 24/7 advertising channel for everything Elon Musk.
The rest is Elon Musk's fanboys promotion everything their guru does, says, eats or drink.
Unbearable.
What we wanted was a platform for everyone, what we got was a platform for one rich guy.
Great!
I honestly love when tech companies try this nonsense precisely because it _always_ fails. It shows they do not understand the masses at all.
Go on, Elon, make your super app! I will be waiting by with popcorn to watch it fall 😀
I don't want everything apps... I already have an everything phone. Why would I need an everything app within my everything phone?
You offended the Elon fanboys with reality
But also, maybe Western audiences won't use a super-app.
The chaebol East Asian style of one company having arms in all cakes under the same name, that might not appeal to the noncomformist Western citizens.
That's more of an East Asiam thing, as far as I have seen.
The problem here is that these people want to make new apps instead of adding features to the apps that the have google has everything it needs to have a superapp in 20 separate apps just put it all together
I use Google Classroom, and find it to be an adequate learning management platform. I’ve taught long enough to remember when I kept and turned in a written record, no computer input to systems like Synergy with fully digitized student data including breakdowns to specific assignments.
_"Why Elon's Super App Is Destined To Fail"_
This isn't the first time someone has predicted failure for Elon lol In fact, ALL of his companies were supposed to fail. 😂🤣
Wechat in the west would get broken up as a monopoly
I actually fucking hate the idea of a super do-evrerything app. Fuck Twitter, fuck musk, fuck WeChat, and fuck super apps.
Seems like some of your videos have missing information. The relationship between Apple Card and GS had some issues, and a black swan event occurred. It was the height of the pandemic, and people were buying a lot of tech and computers. I think the Apple Card had a 0% interest rate on long installment plans, so many people bought a lot of tech, tying up GS’s money. Time is money, and GS could have used that money for loans or other products and services that would have made them money instead of losing it. If GS didn’t have an issue with 0% interest, then they would still have been able to make money off the swipe fees and merchant fees. It was GS’s own fault for trying to break into the consumer finance side on terms that were unfavorable to them.
Elon musk is a scamer😂 , hyperloop, cybertech, solar roof top, spacex, boring company😂😂😂😂 all just used to hype his companies valuvation. Which is over 🔥
spacex??? scam????
Yes space X is a scam too!
Altough musk isn´t the genius everyone believes, spaceX doesn´t belong on that list, spaceX is worth billions, they made ´space cheap´ and they get a lot of money from the usa government.
Instead of more power through a super app or any more mergers, these already super companies needs to be broken up to reinvigorate competition.
This!
Great video as always. It would be great if you crop out a bit and include your hands and desk in the frame when you talk. It's very eerie. In the beginning I used to think it was some microphone issue or audio lag, but after being a long time subscriber and watching almost all your videos, I think it's just the frame which is zoomed in and feels very odd while you are explaining stuff. Good luck
super apps sound like monopolies which americans hate
The American government will break up a super app into separate companies
You'd like to think, but I think, with how things are currently going, we get one 'bad' president and the wrong majority in congress and they would absolutely endorse a mandatory super app as long as they and congress got kickbacks. And I think that'll be the biggest hurdle for a super app in the US. Americans are jaded and tired. We already give away too much and to have some Billionaire come in and demand more? It won't happen.
PayPal failed.
Tesla failed.
SpaceX failed.
Boring company failed.
Neuralink failed.
Yeah, I can see how you’re right.
Elon has a history of failure.
It’s a forgone conclusion…
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I've Always Heard It pronounced as "Ten-c-ent" and Not "Ten-ch-ent".
But I don't really know what's the correct pronounciaton, tbh.
Oops, prob my bad
The only super app that will ever exist in western countries is operating systems. If you consider OS's a super app.
meanwhile I can't even upload videos on twitter because of an "error"
Hes halfway there...X is already a porn app.
Bruh, they said that about tesla and space x. Idk you’re just making click bait junk these days
Year 4 of TH-camrs claiming Elon is going to fail soon
Great video as always
Thank you as always Balpreet!
Poor of you guys to think that for X SuperApp to succeed it needs to be widely accepted in America. Most of you DO think America = the rest of the world, lol. All X need is for it to work in a big population country and a few smaller countries like in Europe.
Love the product placement towards the end. Great Segway
Let's be real, the reason it's doomed is Elon. Twitter as a social platform is losing advertisers because of his antics. He should have not done the terrible rebrand, he should have tried to intergrate it with companies he had stakes in like Tesla. You can't be as outspoken as Elon and want to have an app that everyone wants to use, it won't work. You need to appear bland and generic as a company. But with twitter we mostly see it as Elon's playground. And we can't seperate the two because of how he destroyed the app.
N E V E R - B E T - A G A I N S T - E L O N
Never try to predict something.
History will catch up to you and laugh you in your face.
I don’t think Americans would want a app that controls every aspects of their life. That sounds preposterous. Who in their right mind wants to be followed every step of their day??
Execpt tax
good, NSA already controls your TH-cam, Instagram, X and everything.
Twitter doing beter than first time
He’ll create the app and then say he invented super apps