@@inx1629 You can do everything you done in vr for 800hrs the same way in odyssey. Just no on foot vr. And no one really likes the on foot so you are not missing out on that.
They are probably going to develop the event at snails pace as they have always done and then in 26 years (2 years after Star Citizen released) we will finally be able to find out what is at the centre of those maelstroms.
It actually has an invisible wall, someone from our squad made it to 60km away from the "core" and hit a wall before being launched back (it was a livestream on our squad's discord)
The devs have openly stated that they had barriers up from what I remember. Obsidianant's channel also said much the same thing. There is talk to release the barrier later on but it'll be sometime after this update.
I think Taranis got so tired of commanders trying to see what it is in the middle and chose you to use your ship was a frisbee. But to be realistic. I dont think you would had survived that g force of spinning so fast. Let alone if there had been drag in terms of air, then I think Eagle would had been rip apart. You know, like a plane can do if it goes over the designed limit of the body
I'm sure someone can calculate the G's pulled from a sudden change of 2800M/s+ like this in half a second. I have a feeling it's somewhere between "brain smoothie" and "atomized eyes" on number of G's pulled.
@@almightydeityI mean, Earth's gravity is about 9'8 m/s^2 acceleration. If we assume he got accelerated to 2800 m/s in just half a second that would be about 2800/0'5=5600m/s^2 (assuming an increment from zero, I'm not really sure in what direction he changed speeds), which would be the equivalent of 5600/9'8=571'43 Gs approximately.
very nice footage, worthy of study. Did note you proceeded suprisingly far with a small ship and its speed. with rather plotted routes with the speed , taking note of nearby mines to avoid nearby firing at the ship, as caustic on a small ship is brutal. i think should be able navigate through majority of caustic and mines, seems at the end you either picked up interceptors or the smaller ones, two or more radar contacts shooting at yourself prior to the shutdown wave from middle of maelstrom. very nice footage again. i think maybe way to negate interceptors from inconclusive tests earlier today so there is a potential for small science ships to do whats needed
Night vision lets you see all the mines when at the edge of the cloud, then not much difference after entering it. Have some math on the physics of the 2400 ms fling I posted to Reddit for fun tho I dont even want to start to know what the G forces involved here were... Just kidding, I have nothing better to do so it hits roughly 2400 m/s near instantly, but since the display blacks out we can pretend it's a 1 second acceleration in case any of that is over time, which is more than generous and also extremely convenient for me as I can compare it to 9.8 m/s without squaring. It comes out to just north of 240g in that case. This is coincidentally 100x the G factor of jupiter's gravity well, and somewhere around 9x the gravitational acceleration of the sun. The Eagle's frame theoretically had to endure a force of 12,000 tons from its own hull mass alone (and this had hull refs so it should be well closer to 100 than the 50 of the hull) That's equivalent to having 6 fully fit Type 10's sitting on top of it in 1g, or a anaconda hull sitting on top of it in the sun's gravity. And remember, the weight numbers all hinge on the very generous assumption that the Eagle is only hull mass, and the G force on the fact that the acceleration took one second (which really didnt seem the case), it could be 2 to 4 times greater with more generous estimates
@@MichaelCollins19 I would believe not. Maybe it would stop the actual shutdown effects. I didnt want to mount more weight than I already did while doing this I have all the reason to believe the forcible shunt is completely unavoidable though
i wonder what would happen if a group of people try to penetrate the center, if the timing is right others could charge directly after the shockwave maybe and get to the center.
I was thinking something along these lines, what if we bait the wave, retreat beyond its range then dive for the core right after? We still dont know the cooldown for this wave yet.
could going in with low heat make a difference? since that helps through off targeting with the interceptors, maybe going in popping heat sink or silent running might get someone closer before it does the repulsion thing
Actually if anything going in with high heat is a better idea, either at the closest point you can get or when the wave hits you it applies an extremely nasty level of caustic effect So if you wanted to ride the bounce without dumping your speed to get a limped out and cut the caustic off, having a high heat and burning the caustic off would be a good idea
Someone needs to sne in a ship to activate the knock back wave (or whatever it is) then send in another ship while the wave is recharging if if has a recharge or if it can just activate it as constantly as needed
Interesting. Didnt know that. It should be on for me. My belief is because the G force was only for a split second the game didnt let it take its toll. Elite seems to cause black / red when ~20G is reached, but it needs time no matter how many G to set in
tbf an Eagle vs a Taranis in EVE would be a pretty sad day for everyone involved unless the Eagle is only set up for range with no App and the Taranis runs under the guns, otherwise the Eagle will just poke it till it runs away considering no way in hell a Eagle tackles a Taranis if you meant ED Eagle vs EVE Taranis, it would just be a massive W for the Taranis. The Taranis is multiple times faster while also being much larger / more powerful Unfortunately there's not really much modding for ED or EVE thanks to their always online natures. We'll probably never see such a fight.
I play every day. I see no less than 20 people at Jameson's any time I go there, and I think that's cap for instance. The game is still very popular and very much alive, and still being developed. We had a big update 2 days ago.
Havent touched the game in months save to pay carrier debts. A funny thing to do and interested friends are the only reason to hop in. The new content is honestly not very gripping for me.
Fun fact: the ship is heavily bogged down by engineered hull reinforcements here. Fully stripped she does well over 700 m/s An IEagle can do 932 stripped but that would have been too easy, plus eagle sounds are very nice
Yeah I considered it but I was kinda wanting the cooler Eagle sound I’ll probably do it in a IEagle and a Sidey to see what happens if you go fast in or super light in
these are fully maxed G5 Dirtys on 3A enhanced performance. There is no better engineering for thrusters available. I had to swap the FSD from the racing 2D to a 3A to reach the system and had to install multiple heavy duty hull reinforcements to survive the caustic damage. That weight all takes quite a toll on enhanced perf, normally I hit the Eagle's hull speed cap on this ship.
@@clankplusm On the Eagle with the enhanced drives switch to drive distributor instead of dirty if you have the ship weighted down. I don't understand the numbers on the mechanics of these affect concerning the enhanced engines. On a racing ship with everything stripped down dirty drives gives you the highest performance but as soon as you add modules that add weight then its drive distributor affect that is used to get the max performance. When I get back from Colonia tonight I'm going to take a stab at the Stargoid myself using my Eagle.
@@thatgregguy I mean, I pretty much threw this eagle together with what I had on hand on my carrier over the course of like 10 mins. I'm sure better can be done when laden like this but it was enough for me
Main problem is that you are useing a regular Eagle instead of the Imperial Eagle. The latter has a maximum boost of 932, while the regular has only 815. But to get these number, the ship must be fully stripted, including shield. Still the 604 boost imply that you have equipped an extra 25 ton beyound the minimum mass of 60, which is understandable as you need shield, jumprange and armor to survive. I sueggest useing drive distributors instead of drag drives, as it gives you an extra 6 ton to work with, which is enough for shields, and some other stuff (no heavy armor though). Also use Imperial Eagle insted of the regular.
famn, I stripped the EPTS off of an IEagle onto an Eagle specifically for the funny boost sound. I couldnt give a rats ass to go use my last engineering materials and 2 hours of time to get a distributor'd 3A EPF. I got in and bounced and someone else already went in with a 932 ship. Last I checked the hull limit of the standard eagle is 752 or such anyways
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Maybe an Adder would work...
Oh boy, this is about to get interesting
@@clankplusm If an SLF wouldn't die so quick from caustic damage...
Oh no, it begins
The vomit comet enters the chat
When this guy shows up you know it's gonna get good
Imagine someone doing this in vr without knowing what would happen
I play Elite in VR I am planning on doing this
800hrs Elite VR player, gave up on the game when Odessy stopped supporting it
@@inx1629 Odyssey dosent support vr?
@@EchoNovemberDelter not on foot
@@inx1629 You can do everything you done in vr for 800hrs the same way in odyssey. Just no on foot vr. And no one really likes the on foot so you are not missing out on that.
Looks like we might be able to get into those holes in the vessel once we can disable the EMP. Lot of potential for cool shit to go down.
or nothing will happen and it will end as an event the player won't actually participate
They are probably going to develop the event at snails pace as they have always done and then in 26 years (2 years after Star Citizen released) we will finally be able to find out what is at the centre of those maelstroms.
@@danilooliveira6580 And we get a cutscene rendered in Powerpoint haha
It actually has an invisible wall, someone from our squad made it to 60km away from the "core" and hit a wall before being launched back (it was a livestream on our squad's discord)
The devs have openly stated that they had barriers up from what I remember. Obsidianant's channel also said much the same thing. There is talk to release the barrier later on but it'll be sometime after this update.
how do you even stream on discord without shitty, pixelated quality? got gigabit up and downlink and discord nitro, still sucks.
they don't want you to know....
"Face me, coward!"
I think Taranis got so tired of commanders trying to see what it is in the middle and chose you to use your ship was a frisbee. But to be realistic. I dont think you would had survived that g force of spinning so fast. Let alone if there had been drag in terms of air, then I think Eagle would had been rip apart. You know, like a plane can do if it goes over the designed limit of the body
Is there a G-force in space? ... zero gravity n stuff.... =P
@@HailRider bro he literally got accelerated 2500≈ m/s in a moment. Of course he will die. The whole eagle internals should be painted red
@@HailRider uhh yes
I'm sure someone can calculate the G's pulled from a sudden change of 2800M/s+ like this in half a second. I have a feeling it's somewhere between "brain smoothie" and "atomized eyes" on number of G's pulled.
@@almightydeityI mean, Earth's gravity is about 9'8 m/s^2 acceleration. If we assume he got accelerated to 2800 m/s in just half a second that would be about 2800/0'5=5600m/s^2 (assuming an increment from zero, I'm not really sure in what direction he changed speeds), which would be the equivalent of 5600/9'8=571'43 Gs approximately.
I'm going to make billions as a trader moving palladium barf bags
that spin made me sick while watching it, now imagine sitting on that seat... Literal human blender...
very nice footage, worthy of study. Did note you proceeded suprisingly far with a small ship and its speed.
with rather plotted routes with the speed , taking note of nearby mines to avoid nearby firing at the ship, as caustic on a small ship is brutal.
i think should be able navigate through majority of caustic and mines, seems at the end you either picked up interceptors or the smaller ones, two or more radar contacts shooting at yourself prior to the shutdown wave from middle of maelstrom.
very nice footage again. i think maybe way to negate interceptors from inconclusive tests earlier today so there is a potential for small science ships to do whats needed
I want someone to full boost, turn off flight assist, then shut down all systems and cruise into the center.
pulse would go off anyways or youd hit the wall
dammit I had the same idea today and went mats farming for an engineered high speed eagle xD
we're missing something. may need to have something in inventory to be able to approach it.
Thargoid heart?
damn you got flung out at over 2000m/s. what happens if you turn on night vision?
Night vision lets you see all the mines when at the edge of the cloud, then not much difference after entering it.
Have some math on the physics of the 2400 ms fling I posted to Reddit for fun tho
I dont even want to start to know what the G forces involved here were... Just kidding, I have nothing better to do
so it hits roughly 2400 m/s near instantly, but since the display blacks out we can pretend it's a 1 second acceleration in case any of that is over time, which is more than generous and also extremely convenient for me as I can compare it to 9.8 m/s without squaring. It comes out to just north of 240g in that case. This is coincidentally 100x the G factor of jupiter's gravity well, and somewhere around 9x the gravitational acceleration of the sun. The Eagle's frame theoretically had to endure a force of 12,000 tons from its own hull mass alone (and this had hull refs so it should be well closer to 100 than the 50 of the hull)
That's equivalent to having 6 fully fit Type 10's sitting on top of it in 1g, or a anaconda hull sitting on top of it in the sun's gravity.
And remember, the weight numbers all hinge on the very generous assumption that the Eagle is only hull mass, and the G force on the fact that the acceleration took one second (which really didnt seem the case), it could be 2 to 4 times greater with more generous estimates
@@clankplusm would the Thargoid shutdown wave neutraliser thing have an effect on the pulse wave that you shut down?
@@MichaelCollins19 I would believe not. Maybe it would stop the actual shutdown effects. I didnt want to mount more weight than I already did while doing this
I have all the reason to believe the forcible shunt is completely unavoidable though
@@MichaelCollins19 It doesn’t. I saw numerous people try it already. Probably gonna need to research a new one.
@@clankplusm plus 500 m/s for the previous speed
Screaming Eagle
I like the sound of this ship
Absolutely agreed. I actually picked the Eagle over the Imperial Eagle for this despite less hull hp and speed, simply for the sound
Diagnostic sequence initiuuUUUated
hoooo, thing knocked you back at over 2200 next time though, dont stop boosting, you made it closer than a lot of other people have lol
I can probably set up an IEagle and go as far as I can in further maybe
Or a sidey to see how fast I can bounce
@@clankplusm viper 3 вроде более быстрый, если не ошибаюсь
i wonder what would happen if a group of people try to penetrate the center, if the timing is right others could charge directly after the shockwave maybe and get to the center.
I was thinking something along these lines, what if we bait the wave, retreat beyond its range then dive for the core right after? We still dont know the cooldown for this wave yet.
could going in with low heat make a difference? since that helps through off targeting with the interceptors, maybe going in popping heat sink or silent running might get someone closer before it does the repulsion thing
It doesn’t change anything sadly.
Actually if anything going in with high heat is a better idea, either at the closest point you can get or when the wave hits you it applies an extremely nasty level of caustic effect
So if you wanted to ride the bounce without dumping your speed to get a limped out and cut the caustic off, having a high heat and burning the caustic off would be a good idea
Goodness. I knew the wave pushed ships away pretty hard, but I guess the small ships get it twice as bad.
War my Lads. War.
It seems like the more mass, the slower you get pushed. I thing the Type-9 is the answer to all of this.
Cutter, it’s the heaviest of all in-game ships at the moment.
i wonder if a 2 wave thing would be possible we send 1 sacrifice then send a second massive wave to attack taranis while he recharge is pulse
They tried to kill you using centrifugal force lol
Someone needs to sne in a ship to activate the knock back wave (or whatever it is) then send in another ship while the wave is recharging if if has a recharge or if it can just activate it as constantly as needed
someone need to go there with an slf
will probably instantly explode under the pressure of caustic damage.
has anyone tried launching dumbfire missile salvos into that thing?
hmm go in with a super hull T-10 with 4 ax missiles and the other 5 with advanced missiles with AX synthed ammo , like a full wing of 4 T-10s hahaha
does the shutdown field neutraliser thing not work against that?
How does that not make the pilot red-out due to the insane g-forces?
If by "red-out" you actually mean "turn into a pile of red goo", then I have the same question
You can turn the red-out option off in the menu 😃
Interesting. Didnt know that. It should be on for me. My belief is because the G force was only for a split second the game didnt let it take its toll. Elite seems to cause black / red when ~20G is reached, but it needs time no matter how many G to set in
I think it specifically has to be a pitch up or down to red/black out, while this was mostly yaw
I thought i was brave doing it in a DBS
Well I'm not doing that in VR 🤮
i plan on downing a bunch of beer and trying it in vr tonight. gonna be fun!
I was really hoping you'd fight a Taranis from eve..
tbf an Eagle vs a Taranis in EVE would be a pretty sad day for everyone involved unless the Eagle is only set up for range with no App and the Taranis runs under the guns, otherwise the Eagle will just poke it till it runs away considering no way in hell a Eagle tackles a Taranis
if you meant ED Eagle vs EVE Taranis, it would just be a massive W for the Taranis. The Taranis is multiple times faster while also being much larger / more powerful
Unfortunately there's not really much modding for ED or EVE thanks to their always online natures. We'll probably never see such a fight.
Amazing video! Shocked to see ppl still play Elite! 😋
I play every day. I see no less than 20 people at Jameson's any time I go there, and I think that's cap for instance. The game is still very popular and very much alive, and still being developed. We had a big update 2 days ago.
Havent touched the game in months save to pay carrier debts. A funny thing to do and interested friends are the only reason to hop in. The new content is honestly not very gripping for me.
@@clankplusm not gripping? They're literally burning the bubble! It's all out war!
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Orca. Just as fast and waaaay tougher.
Wow, that was some high speed!
Fun fact: the ship is heavily bogged down by engineered hull reinforcements here. Fully stripped she does well over 700 m/s
An IEagle can do 932 stripped but that would have been too easy, plus eagle sounds are very nice
@@clankplusm I don't think any amount of speed will get through the blue blast wave
1:30 - Oh my god, Who plays it with VR, here maybe vommit.....Sorry
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now do it proper in an imp eagle
Mach 3 in. Mach 10 out.
imp eagle sucks! Its an ugly, white abused eagle Mk2 and gutamaya deserves to burn for what they did to it
Yeah I considered it but I was kinda wanting the cooler Eagle sound
I’ll probably do it in a IEagle and a Sidey to see what happens if you go fast in or super light in
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you will not I say again you wont get in you you should have take a look at down to earth astronomy vids.
who said I was trying to get in
Weird video title
its a bit clickbait but such is the way of 2022 YT
Why is your Eagle only able to go less than 600 m/s boost with full pops to engines?? You need better engineering son.
these are fully maxed G5 Dirtys on 3A enhanced performance. There is no better engineering for thrusters available. I had to swap the FSD from the racing 2D to a 3A to reach the system and had to install multiple heavy duty hull reinforcements to survive the caustic damage. That weight all takes quite a toll on enhanced perf, normally I hit the Eagle's hull speed cap on this ship.
@@clankplusm On the Eagle with the enhanced drives switch to drive distributor instead of dirty if you have the ship weighted down. I don't understand the numbers on the mechanics of these affect concerning the enhanced engines. On a racing ship with everything stripped down dirty drives gives you the highest performance but as soon as you add modules that add weight then its drive distributor affect that is used to get the max performance. When I get back from Colonia tonight I'm going to take a stab at the Stargoid myself using my Eagle.
@@thatgregguy I mean, I pretty much threw this eagle together with what I had on hand on my carrier over the course of like 10 mins. I'm sure better can be done when laden like this but it was enough for me
Main problem is that you are useing a regular Eagle instead of the Imperial Eagle. The latter has a maximum boost of 932, while the regular has only 815. But to get these number, the ship must be fully stripted, including shield. Still the 604 boost imply that you have equipped an extra 25 ton beyound the minimum mass of 60, which is understandable as you need shield, jumprange and armor to survive.
I sueggest useing drive distributors instead of drag drives, as it gives you an extra 6 ton to work with, which is enough for shields, and some other stuff (no heavy armor though).
Also use Imperial Eagle insted of the regular.
famn, I stripped the EPTS off of an IEagle onto an Eagle specifically for the funny boost sound. I couldnt give a rats ass to go use my last engineering materials and 2 hours of time to get a distributor'd 3A EPF. I got in and bounced and someone else already went in with a 932 ship.
Last I checked the hull limit of the standard eagle is 752 or such anyways