The MSK-1: Discussing The Objections - Preparedmind101

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  • Everyone knows this knife. It is hotly debated and could trigger an old lady in church. I break down the biggest arguments and give my honest opinions...
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  • @MississipVol
    @MississipVol 5 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    Bottom line - everyone expected a fair-priced knife from him and instead got D2 steel at a super steel price. We all understand the pricing issues for USA made products but no one expected a $300 knife. I was thinking $169-189 when he first introduced it and would have bought it at that price point. Secondly, I think everyone gets tired of people getting the knife for free and telling us on YT it is not a bad value after all. Well, if you didn't spend your own money then you can't really speak objectively about its value. It is a nice knife but not a $300 knife.

    • @preparedmind101
      @preparedmind101  5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Know what I get tired of? People whining about shit without watching the video to see what's actually said. One of the last things I said was "Would I personally spend MY own money on this?" And I said "No". It's not my particular style. Doesn't make it jumk though.
      I've been at this too long. I know what you're going to say before you say it. That's why I make sure I cover these objections in my video. Let's me know who comments without watching the video.

    • @MississipVol
      @MississipVol 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@preparedmind101 I watched the video. You are just automatically on the defense I guess. I assume you realize several others have reviewed this knife as well but maybe you don't. My comment did not reference you specifically but "people". I made that comment BECAUSE of what you said, most people don't acknowledge that. Geeez!!

    • @lobosolojj
      @lobosolojj 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Chris, I watched the video and thought it was a fair assessment. The price is too high for what you get. That doesn't make the knife junk, just over priced. Maybe for $150-$190 range. Accesories could be optional at extra cost (which I'm guessing they already are).

    • @samadler9253
      @samadler9253 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Well chris,if you wouldn't buy that knife and it's not your style, why don't you give it to one of your minions that think it's the greatest thing the blade world has to offer and not get your panties in a wad?

    • @oceanwaves83
      @oceanwaves83 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      A knife that size should probably be CPM 4V at 62hrc. With that kind of geometry it will be plenty tough above 60hrc. I'd rather have my Cold Steel AK-47 in CPM 3V (paid $90). Better wear resistance, better touch toughness, and a handle made for chopping.

  • @informedcitizen8687
    @informedcitizen8687 5 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Like the design but I can't get past the price. For what youre getting I can't see it costing more than $150.00.but they can charge whatever they want I'm just not gonna pay it.

    • @WarGrrl3
      @WarGrrl3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I was thinking the same thing; not more than $150ish.

    • @tikkidaddy
      @tikkidaddy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yep. Well that and its ugly as politics. Thats like the whole common man routine...well the common man can't afford 90% Of the tools.
      D2 used to be super steel. Then people who don't know how to heat treat treat it right got a hold of it...oh...its junk...no its not. Its the HT.
      ALL THAT ASIDE...how many bark rivers can you buy for that much money??

    • @thetschoni3813
      @thetschoni3813 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THATS WHAT I FEEL TOO. I bought a custom knife that exactly was made the way I designed it for around 180$... I can't see the 500$ tag to be honest. That's the price of a custom knife. It is D2 and even if it would perform the way 3V does, the production Price would be lower than 3V. So the performance for me is not really something that helps me understand the price...

    • @butchhill5656
      @butchhill5656 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I still say there's a possibility of military applications for this for Air Force and Marine and army Pilots. As for me know, but I don't like the Tom Brown tracker either but I would take this over the Tom Brown tracker if I had to have one. And it does cost too much it's not a common man's knife. And a lot better options out there for a common man. There were only three knives designs I do not like and those are two of them.

    • @jasperweaver3563
      @jasperweaver3563 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I thought the same thing but a friend of mine let me borrow it and the knife itself at $300 is very appropriately priced for quality, even when measured against other similarly priced knife, this one accels

  • @NGMonocrom
    @NGMonocrom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    *Posting this on August 10th 2020 ~*
    1- Those who hated the steel: David has switched over to 154cm.
    2- Those who hated the price: As of 2 weeks ago, David has made it clear that the Primitive is fully ready to go. $150 for what we were all expecting the first time around. Wood handles, no black coating on the blade. Honestly, looks much better than the original. The Primitive is the knife we should have gotten in the first place.
    3- For those who still want something easier to maintain or re-sharpen than 154cm or D2 (can't blame you guys one bit on the latter), the much better looking and half the price Primitive is made from 1075 carbon steel in Central America by skilled knife-makers, at least according to the info. David released on his channel 2 weeks ago.
    4- Will the Primitive be worth it at half the price: Well.... 1075 carbon steel, Central America, skilled knife-makers. Translation = *Condor Tool & Knife.* That's the most obvious answer. That Condor is making the Primitive for David, and just leaving off their brand name and the words "El Salvador." I have no proof of this. Just a very educated guess. Condor would be the most obvious, most likely, and best guess. That's all it is from me though. Wouldn't be the first time Condor has done something like that. They make a nice machete for ESEE, sold under the ESEE name. So, for $150, it _might_ be worth it. No, you don't get the kydex sheath with the Primitive. But you can get an aftermarket one, and the total would still be around just under $200. There's a good chance I'll realistically pick one up at the end of the year, and later review it on my channel.
    5- It looks like a Kabar Warthog: Fair enough. There is a resemblance. Though David's design seems stronger.
    6- David abandoned his channel for quite awhile when he was working on the knife's design: Yeah, he did. He should have made an Update Video when he realized he'd be away longer than expected. Also, when he did return, he looked seriously p!$$ed off! Wasn't smiling as he usually does. Looked like an evil, angry, serial killer. Okay, true too. But I got the impression he was just severely stressed out from bringing his design from Concept to Reality. I think both issues contributed to the resentment that some feel against this knife. Let's give it a fair chance. Especially with the Primitive version. Which again, I feel is the knife many of us were expecting the first time around. Especially in terms of price.
    7- One tool survival option: I can't lie. I'd prefer something along the lines of a 12-inch bladed machete with a useful, narrow tip. Or, a slightly larger than average Bowie knife. As good as David's design is, you can't make up for a short blade with a great design.

    • @wrathofatlantis2316
      @wrathofatlantis2316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Quote: -7: A larger bowie: Exactly. The idea should be how to make a big knife more efficient at chopping, not how to make a small knife a chopper. I've just bought, for $50 at Canadian Tire, a Huntshield 8.3" flared blade "survival knife", looking like a slightly enlarged SOG Creed. Making a flared chopper out of a 8" blade is an interesting but already quite borderline idea. It is so well executed on the Huntshield however, with an excellent Sabre Hollow Grind, and, even better, my favourite steel, 420 (the stainless that sharpens like Carbon!), that I am mildly enthused over it... An 8.3" blade flared to chop, this enhanced with a hollow grind, a proper handle shape and a stick tang isolating the hand from vibration (apply a lot of thin crazy glue to stabilize the leather though), shows a surprising amount of genuine knowledge, if the handle's buttcap construction is not inherently problematic (to be seen). Sabre Hollow Grinds, stick tangs and 420 steel are all things completely at odds with current knifehead survival dogmas, and all of them are not only good things, but the very best, if done right.

  • @eugeneseib5974
    @eugeneseib5974 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Chris, I think you just did an outstanding job of walking the knifes edge. Well done!

  • @johnstandfell9458
    @johnstandfell9458 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Chris I like the fact that you are genuinely honest in you're knife review's And I agree with you on a lot of the subject's in you're review's you are straight forward honest unlike other TH-cam reviewer's keep up the good work

  • @rickfoley5596
    @rickfoley5596 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I have several Look LT Wright knifes that are D2 that have been through hell and back and are still in great shape. Good D2 is also very easy to take care of in the field. I personally have no issue with well made D2 knifes

    • @johnganshow5536
      @johnganshow5536 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I just ordered a Proelia Defcon TD 006 Looks cool and got good reviews. Kydex sheath...D2 steel...

    • @Yogangster1995
      @Yogangster1995 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The only issue i've had with D2 is sharpening it. At least with the knives that I have that use D2, it's difficult to give them a sharp edge.

    • @preparedmind101
      @preparedmind101  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Yogangster1995 My thing exactly. Imagine my surprise when this knife did NOTHING like what I'm used to with D2

    • @thetschoni3813
      @thetschoni3813 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      But the performance doesn't mean that the price is ok. It is just a fact that D2 is much cheaper the 3V or other high end steels. So if you use a D2... No problem BUT adjust the price!

    • @rickfoley5596
      @rickfoley5596 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thetschoni3813 I made no comment about the price. I was only defending good quality well made D2 knifes. As far as price something is worth what people are willing to pay for it. As far as value some of my best investment have been in D2 custom knifes that are now worth many times what I paid for them. I dont have any supper steel knife that have come close to gong up in value as they have.

  • @Wildwestwrangler
    @Wildwestwrangler 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm rocking the Tops sxb

  • @randyyeager
    @randyyeager 5 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Price on just the knife with the kydex sheath is $299 USD...that's a Bark river price with S30V or some other super steel....the whole setup with the nylon cover and the small knife is $492 USD....both prices are ridiculous. I don't mind the design....just think for the price, you can get a lot better set up...it's not a good knife for the money.....

    • @bp-hx9ts
      @bp-hx9ts 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Randy Yeager I agree but it is a custom knife bark river is a relatively big company so they can have cheaper knives also I don’t think they use s30v they use s35vn

    • @mayson1014
      @mayson1014 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Randy Yeager: Dude you are on every video complaining about something... Ok it may be a bit over priced to some people so I would point you to a piece to a Schrade or even better a MORA.

    • @1968gadgetyo
      @1968gadgetyo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No it's not. custom O1 can be $250. So a mid teck D2 (which is better than O1)can be round $250 to $300 without sheath. Let's say it's simple kydex, it's bout $30 to $50. So the price itself hit's that ballpark. Throw in the survival kit ($50-$100?), a me-teck neck knife ($100?) and an outer sheath ($30?). The price do hit that range.

    • @preparedmind101
      @preparedmind101  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Neither

    • @randyyeager
      @randyyeager 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bp-hx9ts I don't see it as a custom knife....it's no more hand made than a bark river, and you have no choice in what yer getting....they won't "customize" it for you...

  • @oldmanstoner4153
    @oldmanstoner4153 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    A WCSK is 270 dollars, an he is a custom knife maker, the MSK-1 400 dollars for a production gimmicky knife? You tell me what is going on with you tubers calling this a good knife, worth the cost??? Only positive review of this knife is coming from mostly high production you tubers. Most are claiming a friendship with this guy David, that has no doubt video production talent, well most men of his lifestyle will do better at such things then say William Collins type of men. One being a outdoor type of guy the other being a video production type of guy, just saying!

    • @samadler9253
      @samadler9253 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Right on,l think you hit the nail on the head!

    • @oldmanstoner4153
      @oldmanstoner4153 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would be interested too know how many of these knives actually sold? I do not in any way want to stop people from making a living, yet I would say if you promote crap that will not help in the long run. Outside of that this Tanner guy seems okay, maybe a bit citified but who is perfect?

  • @a.toddmoore7262
    @a.toddmoore7262 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey PM101, love the knife. I do wish there was a it 1-2 inche longer version. The design is fine with me for its intended design purpose..Love it David!!!

  • @YankeeWoodcraft
    @YankeeWoodcraft 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Here you go...
    ESEE-6 $120, Council Tool Boy's Axe $40, Mora Companion $20, Silky Gomboy $45, Tool Maintenance Kit (axe file, puck, diamond rod, sharpening block, etc...), $75. and you still have enough left over for a MOLLE II Pack to carry it all in. Someone tell me that they can chop, buck, split, saw, slice or cut better with that knife than against all these tools for significantly less money? 👍

    • @preparedmind101
      @preparedmind101  5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      If I'm being honest...I hate everything on that list. Lol

    • @YankeeWoodcraft
      @YankeeWoodcraft 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@preparedmind101 LOL! 😆
      Yeah, but it will all outperform that one tool to rule them all.

    • @matt2of366
      @matt2of366 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dis.. ah. gree

    • @deejay1534
      @deejay1534 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yankee “ounces equal pounds and pounds equal pain” -from the US Military’s SOG circa 1968.

    • @shramj
      @shramj 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Exactly, that thing is overpriced and for half the money, I can get all the tools I need and tools that will do a better job.

  • @MichaelTravis12c27
    @MichaelTravis12c27 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I'd like to see how it stacks up against my William Collins WCSK. I think the design purpose is pretty similar.

    • @preparedmind101
      @preparedmind101  5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Might want to see what three days of comments look like before signing on for that...

    • @MichaelTravis12c27
      @MichaelTravis12c27 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol!!!

    • @1968gadgetyo
      @1968gadgetyo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MichaelTravis12c27 WCSK have 'tanto like' tip for the extra point. MSK1 has a rounded belly. You cannot do 3 finger hold with the MSK1 due to the hawkbill shape at the end of the handle. So I think WCSK will be a better light chopper. And don't forget Randy's leather/kydex sheath.

  • @lobosolojj
    @lobosolojj 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    For me it's the price. Period. No complaint about the design. Don't know if it's worth the price or not but it doesn't matter. The cost is simply too high for the average person to pay. I have a similar design in a Ka Bar Heavy Duty Warthog that gets the job done for a fraction of the price. Not comparing the two except for the blade shape design, just the price. To me it's laughable to pay that much money for the MSK-1. The first time I saw it I was interested until I saw the price and then my jaw dropped. I can't believe these knives are big sellers at that price. And Chris, I enjoy your videos, keep up the reviews, but you seem to be going to the more expensive knives. Out of most people's budgets or hard to obtain. How about going back to the more affordable options out there. I think the expensive knives are great but if I can't afford them what's the point?

    • @willb8684
      @willb8684 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @733Rafael why a hollow grind ?dumm

  • @gmorel1916
    @gmorel1916 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Damn. Apparently I missed this whole controversy. Personally, I’ve always thought the UST guy came off as a wannabe clown. He’s the Shamwow guy of high speed low drag survival posers. He’ll talk up anyone that pays him even if it’s garbage, which to me is dishonest and can be dangerous. Then there’s this thing that’s three hundred freakin’ dollars. Come on. You have got to be kidding me. If his fans are dense enough to buy it then that’s on them. People that know gear and have common sense will buy far superior knives for significantly less money. That thing is 100% marketing and that’s that.

    • @willb8684
      @willb8684 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      deserves more thumbs up....

    • @papayaman78
      @papayaman78 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No kidding. What a Joker.

  • @davidmoorea1961
    @davidmoorea1961 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kudos for having the fortitude to delve into ‘The Briar Patch!’ ~ w/ respect to the MSK-1, of course🇺🇸

  • @timbrwolf2238
    @timbrwolf2238 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done sir. I got mine backing his kickstarter. You comments are well stated. Mine is in a bag, just too heavy in my camping world.

  • @redline8314
    @redline8314 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Here is a novel Idea! If you dont like it......DONT BUY IT! Simple right? BTW.. Freeman makes some seriously great knives. I have the 5.0 451 Field in CPM 3V and it is one of my favorite knives I own! I will buy the MSK-1 because I want it. If I didnt want it I wouldnt buy it!

    • @preparedmind101
      @preparedmind101  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's one or two others I held I'd love to have, but don't recall the names.

    • @redline8314
      @redline8314 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@preparedmind101 I bet you its the 5.5 Model 451 "Little Beast" or the 6.5 Model 451 Chopper! You should do the review on on of em. It's like there is no reviews on em at all!

    • @1968gadgetyo
      @1968gadgetyo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree. The issue was that David over sell the knife in the advertising videos. Some even claim is false advertising. Than they attack David's integrity as a outdoors man. aka.

    • @redline8314
      @redline8314 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@1968gadgetyo your right! I dont listen to that white noise. He's goofy! A little over the limit I get that! But I dont pay attention to any of that! What I care about is the final product! And the final product is good and it does what its supposed to do! What I love about it is the System! Im a System guy and great Systems are priceless! Plus it reminds me alot of my Kabar Heavy Duty Warthog( which is a pry bar on crack)! Im in with the final product!

    • @madawcofarreat2348
      @madawcofarreat2348 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      "If you don't like it, don't buy it", he says, and with this brilliant statement alone making every knife reviewer obsolete. Please close down your channels, everyone.

  • @davidrogers182
    @davidrogers182 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Review! I own and use several mid to high quality knives. Sometimes I like using my BHK other times it’s a Mora bushcraft black or even the kephart Condor. Learning how to use different knifes and tools, be it an axe, saw, knife is an important adaptation to survival in my opinion. I applaud David for trying to create something unique even if I wouldn’t purchase it. Dr David

  • @NorthernWoodsmanElite
    @NorthernWoodsmanElite 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m going to get one and test it and I’ll make a video on it . Thanks for the video Chris.

  • @Prodigalson0078
    @Prodigalson0078 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think David's knife would make a perfect get home bag knife. If I didn't already have the Becker bk2, to fill that role, I would get it. Now of course, I have the JX5 Vengeful 1 for my primary bugout bag. That thing will get it done!

  • @outdoorsgeek6603
    @outdoorsgeek6603 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm no knife guru by any standards of measure. Have owned a busse mean street, several moras , a few shrades and bucks, fallkniven f1, s1, a1 an a few random gerbers. Currently i have an CS Srk in Cpm3v, a solingen damascus bowie, a shrade folder, a mora bushcraft black, a CS survival knife in all orange. After being an outdoorsmen all my life, am still a big believer the best knife you have, is the one on you with the muscle memory between the ears for skilled usage. The 60.00 basic mora black is a good knife. It's not a pry bar, log cabin builder, tree processing chunk of steel, man killing instrument. However it skins good, batons well, holds a good edge, very tough, feather sticks, makes wood carved utensils with ease, a good 90' angle for shooting sparks, doesn't chip out, roll, is light for carrying, can chop trees with a little use from a baton, etc. If your worried about the apocolypse or armageddon, why not just practice your skills instead? That will carry you much farther then any single knife will, regardless of the price, the steel, etc. Just my few cents.

  • @ReviewThisFyi
    @ReviewThisFyi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My only concern about the knife is, the grind. I've seen msk-1 knives with a saber grind (witch I prefer) and some with a hollow grind. So if I buy the knife, I don't know what I'm going to get.

  • @fin3572
    @fin3572 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You did a great job with this sit down.
    Very good points raised at around 12:30 - it's like he tried to design and manufacture a custom survival knife...that happens to be mass produced! Instead of starting with a base model to keep the cost down say with mora style plastic scales and sheath, and offering optional upgrades (kydex, micarta, wood), he is only offering the knife as a top of the line option - with the optional extras being kit, not materials.
    I have the knife and like it a lot - it comfortably does what a 4" bushcraft knife does and it replaces a light hatchet (although not an axe) - all thanks to its superb balance, the handle and that oversize choil. Like you rightly say, it's my style!
    As my first D2 knife, all I can say is that it takes and holds an edge, is reasonably easy to field sharpen and I've had no issues with chipping (I put a slight convex on the belly to aid chopping)

  • @jrobertw1970
    @jrobertw1970 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. I found this to be quite helpful. I just happen to like the look of the blade. I hope I can get one in the future. Again thank you Sir !!!

  • @GumCrawfordBaby
    @GumCrawfordBaby 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Definitely an interesting knife for which I've seen testing and demos for years. Where can it be purchased? I've never seen it for sale.

  • @exgi76gmailcom
    @exgi76gmailcom 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the honesty and all the time and thought you put into it ..... truly professional work ...

  • @daniels.1504
    @daniels.1504 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for being smart and fair Chris, good job.

  • @YogaNinja76
    @YogaNinja76 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question? The biggest thing for me was the ability to re sharpen it myself (in the field). Because of the steel type. Any suggestions

  • @malachihayes6059
    @malachihayes6059 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    did you sharpen it? what was it like "out of the box"?

  • @eachday9538
    @eachday9538 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good thoughts. There is a fair bit to like about it. I particularly like the removable handle scales with flat driver slot and skeletonized tang storage area. Wazoo make some nifty little last ditch nicknacks to store in there too.

  • @imemovengeance
    @imemovengeance 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad to see you finally making the video

  • @mindfulmusic1029
    @mindfulmusic1029 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    what do you think of this knife compared to the habilis SRT

  • @zombiehunter0000
    @zombiehunter0000 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did it come with a sheth ? How much was it ? Did you cut anything with it ? Looks good I know my esee 5/6/ and and every one that's not a knife junkie does to sorry just seen your video pop up and the design looked watched not intreged enough to Google it thanks I guess

  • @thorson7842
    @thorson7842 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thats cool.
    I've owned a LOT of really really cheap knives and they have saved my butt more then once...in this country and others! Thanks for your honesty about it.

  • @yuraplus3
    @yuraplus3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, I'm not a knife guy, but I liked your video a lot. The way you expressed your thoughts and honest opinion - just fantastic. Huge respect. Thank you. I want to follow your Chanel

  • @zoechevalier6250
    @zoechevalier6250 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice vid as always, I'd also like to suggest reviewing the WCSK knife by William Collins. Thanks and take care.

  • @SB-ot8hf
    @SB-ot8hf ปีที่แล้ว

    can manually sharp the blade?

  • @refaiabdeen5943
    @refaiabdeen5943 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Chris, Would you be able to make a video presentation of the comparison of the SXB Vs MSK-1. Cheers

  • @FARACI1
    @FARACI1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like the look of this blade it reminds me of the older Cris Reeves skinner. always wanter one of them and I waited to long, Not going to miss out on this one. Thanks for this review it has nailed it for me. With in the next two pay check I'll be ordering one.

  • @MK-gj3yf
    @MK-gj3yf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How is this knife different from the Wort Hog by K-bar

  • @highcountrychronicles
    @highcountrychronicles 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had one of the originals. Perhaps they had heat treat issues but it chipped with very light usage. I just found it to heavy for what it was so I sold it. Just not for me......

  • @angelvelezjr.9393
    @angelvelezjr.9393 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your input, as always, Sir.

  • @karikovacs3824
    @karikovacs3824 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you purchase the knife, or you have get it for testing?

  • @rickc4317
    @rickc4317 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think a lot of the controversy is as much about the claims made about the knife, or more, than about the knife itself. From what I've seen and heard, it's not the knife, it's the over the top claims about it that have a lot of people upset. For instance, obviously, it's too thick to be a good slicer (yes, it takes a good edge, however, there's a reason kitchen knives have a thin blade) and it's too short to be considered a great chopper. IMO, it's overpriced regardless. BTW, I have several folders in D2 and I like it for those knives.

    • @Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors
      @Thepreppersbunkeroutdoors 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sounds like you have it figured out!

    • @preparedmind101
      @preparedmind101  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Which is why I specifically talked about "If you picked it up knowing nothing about it... Hype, steel, etc..." May still not like it, but I think more people might be interested if they got past their biases. At least... Until they say the price tag.

    • @toddk1377
      @toddk1377 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like the design and the geometry....just not enough for me to pay that much. I'm surprised David didnt go through a different knife manufacturer like Tops or Kabar, ect. Probably could of made it just as good but a better price tag...then again I also realize that he maybe did try but was declined.

  • @kiltedcripple
    @kiltedcripple 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Videos like this are why I'm a subscriber. I love Tactical too, but he's not discussing use theory and ignoring marketing bias. Thank you Chris.

  • @not-a-raccoon
    @not-a-raccoon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I get the "don't like it don't buy it" sentiment. I really do. But.. you can't expect not to get backlash when you charge $300+ for what should cost maybe $100 given the materials. Then you have the hype leading up to the release. And I just can't stand the dude from Ultimate Survival tips. He's a huckster.

    • @not-a-raccoon
      @not-a-raccoon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Then there's the "revolutionary design." He slapped a finger choil and micarta scales on a Kabar Warthog. Wow. Awesome.

    • @toddk1377
      @toddk1377 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree...costs a lot more than I'm willing to pay. A lot of other quality knives that can do just as well for less money. This knife is primarily for those who need to fill that niche for a tool like this.

    • @samadler9253
      @samadler9253 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      He is the David Koresh of knives..Come drink the kool aid, it's good for! you!

    • @samadler9253
      @samadler9253 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@waynepalmer6743 Wow,another person with balls enough to say what a lot of people are to afraid to say! ....Well done Sir!!

    • @samadler9253
      @samadler9253 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Another person with balls enough to say what a lot of people are to afraid to!...WELL DONE TO YOU SIR!!

  • @rainbowhiker
    @rainbowhiker 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    GOOD to hear your thoughts on this one. Been waiting a while. Still, HoneyBadger don't care. Good thoughts. Would love one but I'm retired and too poor. I'd buy it yesterday if I could.

  • @BackcountryPilgrim
    @BackcountryPilgrim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved your analysis, thank you!

  • @WHEELZ1
    @WHEELZ1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    grab your popcorn everyone, this comment section is going to be a party

    • @mayson1014
      @mayson1014 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      WHEELZ: And chips??!! 🙃

    • @bp-hx9ts
      @bp-hx9ts 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mayson Poe just get both

    • @mayson1014
      @mayson1014 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      bp69: ok I will thanks for the great idea!

    • @jeanlacroix5347
      @jeanlacroix5347 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Meow!

    • @toddk1377
      @toddk1377 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Beer....then you can make wierd funny drunk comments!

  • @floater89
    @floater89 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are the specs of this knife?

  • @jerryc5842
    @jerryc5842 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done this is a difficult video to make. Like the information you did give. Keep up the good work.

  • @brushymountainbushcraft1031
    @brushymountainbushcraft1031 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally some honesty and truth! Thanks Chris! Well said! Truth is truth!

  • @zenoutdoors
    @zenoutdoors 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Its just a Kabar Heavy Duty Warthog with a finger choil

    • @cmac1100
      @cmac1100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wow! I had to look that up and you're exactly right

    • @loganfisher7325
      @loganfisher7325 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmao true but this has bow drill, pummel, and a mini survival kit inside and mini knife and flint

    • @nonjaninja4904
      @nonjaninja4904 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was just thinking that. Lol. It's made in the states vs Taiwan but yeah other than that.

    • @samadler9253
      @samadler9253 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No, the warthog is a better knife!

    • @samadler9253
      @samadler9253 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The warthog is a better knife!

  • @refaiabdeen5943
    @refaiabdeen5943 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cheers Mate! Awesome review and I like your honest opinion. I don’t know much about different steals nor personalities either. But I like it. I will invest in it!

  • @leestephenson4952
    @leestephenson4952 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Appreciate review. Makes me glad I chose OKC RD 6 in 5160 with micarta scales with spec ops sheath. I’m more then good @ little more then a bill. The MK -1 blade shape alone is interesting, the rest is fluff.

  • @S1nc3r3T34rz
    @S1nc3r3T34rz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "I don't care! Break this knife!" Haha love it

  • @malachihayes6059
    @malachihayes6059 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    and thank you for the "tip test". :) very satisfying.

  • @petersirangelo2867
    @petersirangelo2867 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Reminds me of a kabar warthog

  • @jasonmiller9495
    @jasonmiller9495 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review. I'm gonna buy it just in case the end is near and looking at today's America I could need this tomorrow. I'm gonna buy the one he has in 154 cm steel

  • @muhammedcelik6451
    @muhammedcelik6451 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, I live in Turkey, I follow the channel regularly, strongly agree with your comments. That's why I want to buy this knife and I want to make a comparison video. how can I buy. I couldn't find it on the internet.

  • @jasonoconnor9446
    @jasonoconnor9446 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chris..have you ever looked at Blackheart knives..lovebto see one on your reviews..i have the Valkarye but also like the Gunner 10 or 12..

  • @JoeFrohlich
    @JoeFrohlich 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think this was a fair and good review. I use a stainless steel Mora Garberg. I like its simplicity and it is made for someone like me with little experience. I would love to have an MSK-1 but it is too expensive for me. It would also be wasted on me because I do not have the skill to use it.

  • @darnelljohnson5313
    @darnelljohnson5313 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes master I will buy the knife as you instructed lol. What made the review for is that you was surprised how the D2 steel held up. The knife got the respect of another knife designer. Whoa

  • @collectorman7
    @collectorman7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bravo , belle vidéo , une honnêteté sans failles , tout en disant les choses avec beaucoup de respect , merci pour votre sincérité 👍

  • @stevanoutdoor
    @stevanoutdoor 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree on the D2 steel. I have an Enzo Tracker in D2 and that knife has been serving me for some 6 years now and I do baton with it. Even tested it in freezing temperatures. Of course it's more a bushcraft knife and survival knife but not for chopping.
    I also do agree that the MSK-1 belongs in that same category as the Tracker and the Rambo knives. More movie props and gimmicks. That doesn't mean they do not perform. It kinda means there are way better options also for a one tool option. For a one tool option I would go for the TRCknives model Apocalyps. Probably not available in the US.

  • @stewartmcdonald4121
    @stewartmcdonald4121 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I keep rolling the edge of Mora Companions and chip the blade. Put a second bevel on some of them with a Gerber pocket sharpener.
    Have 2 limited edition black and red 511's. Ordered one of the silly looking blue and orange ones.
    I dont use the Terävä Jääkäripuukko. I beat around the bushcraft black and hit it with the Gerber sharpener.
    Im not real good at sharpening knives, but have been practicing on cheap ones with DC4, diamond rod, ceramic rod and home made strops.

  • @conanfa18
    @conanfa18 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am a retired Marine Aviator, and in our survival kit, we had and Applegate and Fairborn (spelling) folding knife, which was about 4 of blade, partially serrated. It had some utility features but was basically a fighting style knife. We also had a smaller folding knife with a very basic Swiss army feel, with a basic blade, can opener, awl type tool, and bottle opener/large head screw driver.
    That combo would not chop and process wood, or easily hunt with, or build a shelter, or essentially SURVIVE, if shot down behind enemy lines...which is likely the very worst survival situation imaginable.
    Jessica X, would not be easily accommodated in an aviator survival kit. The MSK-1 knife set would be the ideal solution, based on size and functionality.
    If I may, constructively, if you don’t define a clear and worst case perspective for which each knife or other tool is meant to be considered, then you invite a never ending debate for or against EVERY CONCEIVABLE SCENARIO.
    I watch your channel for exposure to equipment but not as much for advice, guidance...not enough focus and perspective.
    If I was somehow trapped in a fold of trees and branches, and couldn’t escape...sure, give me an axe and/or Jessica X (kukri) blade!!!
    What David has created with his MSK-1 package, is provide an extremely versatile and capable tool, that represents virtually ALL survival needs with genius level minimization of compromise in each vital area.
    I joined the armed forces in 1981, and still serve in retirement as a contractor, unbroken through 2018 (present).
    I would offer that no survival kit we have ever been issued, on land, sea, or in the air, has ever been as well thought out and designed to purpose as the MSK-1. $400-500 bucks is worth the investment in its potential to give an American serviceman the best chance at survival. Admittedly, I am offering the “trapped behind enemy lines”, as basis for my “scenario”. I do so, on the premise that it is probably the very worst a person could experience. There is no “bug out” bag in the cockpit. You have only what can be strapped into the pockets of your flight vest. Beretta M-9 with 3 magazines, radio, and a little water, inflatable life preserver, chlorine tablets, maker dye, survival blanket, etc.
    And...some kind of Knife? Which one? I bet most aviators would chose the MSK-1 kit, after learning of its attributes, if they had a choice!!!

  • @Shatteredlightunderfadingstars
    @Shatteredlightunderfadingstars 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alright, Im Impressed. So, any more of these kinds designs coming out?

  • @Macgyver46
    @Macgyver46 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this video! I really like the setup just can't afford the package.

  • @madethehorsecry
    @madethehorsecry 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Terrific video. Totally thought of a bug out bag knife.

  • @nuancolar7304
    @nuancolar7304 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It brings to mind the Tom Brown Tracker which comes in at about $225, or perhaps even the TOPs SXB Skullcrusher with a similar price (around $300).

  • @MrSunshine1206
    @MrSunshine1206 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great review!
    and this knife, with all of it's current variations. is a GREAT KNIFE!
    IMHO, because l make knives, mod & repair etc., this knife is a definite keeper.
    👍

  • @ArikGST
    @ArikGST 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Reminds me of the situation with the Tom Brown Tracker..... I would love to get my hands on an MSK-1, I like David, he was like the first Channel I watched all those years ago together with your`s. Can`t afford the knife tho xD

  • @ocomegashadowstacking5886
    @ocomegashadowstacking5886 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome blade design look!!!😊👍

  • @williamsmith6
    @williamsmith6 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    send it to Dutch bushcraft knives for testing

    • @preparedmind101
      @preparedmind101  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If they want to, they can email me or message me on Facebook.

  • @jhanks2012
    @jhanks2012 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have some folders in D2 which are pretty razor sharp and have held a good edge ... i suppose due to the relative difficulty to resharpen them maybe some folks are less keen to put a super sharp edge on a survival knife

  • @rollysport77
    @rollysport77 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your honesty it appears to be s great knife. I hope to buy one in the future

  • @MrCN173
    @MrCN173 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the Review Chris! I like it and $300 for a Knife is pretty common these days. It’s 2018.. inflation on everything especially if u want USA made. That being said D2 is a deal breaker for me personally.

  • @jongrubka4367
    @jongrubka4367 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chris, best explanation about the knife so far.

  • @Eric-ew8jt
    @Eric-ew8jt 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video !

  • @stevelucier8346
    @stevelucier8346 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Much the same here. I don't see the need to switch from my bowie blade very much like the one you showed that I started with that size and shape in 1968/69. Yet I would prefer the MSK-1 over a light weight knife. I find no need to question or bash others decisions. They know what they are trying to fill the need of.

  • @jaredstroup1877
    @jaredstroup1877 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    All it takes is the right source for both the steel and heat treat (in some cases) a cheaper lower end steels can perform like higher end steels. As well where I live a knife like that would both work as well as not work because if I go 20 miles south I could get away with just a pocketknife where if I go north I'd wont either one that Chris made or a 5 in knife and tomahawk or small axe, east to west it might work.

  • @GKganesan
    @GKganesan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good, honest opinion. Genuine & useful.

  • @Wingman115
    @Wingman115 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    As with any tool one would need to use and learn the tool to be proficient with it. Interesting idea and concept.

  • @coffeehunter8742
    @coffeehunter8742 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well put.

  • @denofearthundertheeverlast5138
    @denofearthundertheeverlast5138 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That looks like a Ferric Chloride oxidation finish, thats what most use for Stone Washing finish, but it looks as though they didn't tumble it. So it should hold up very well with little rubbing off, it will eventually but they are generally one of the more durable finishes. I could be wrong but thats just my opinion based on looks.

  • @islanddog211
    @islanddog211 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chris,I think you hit the nail on the head? It's to the individual's liking,usage, and purpose.
    Great video

  • @skyscreemz
    @skyscreemz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Becker BK2 all day!!! Made in USA Crovan 1095 steel!!! Under 100$!!

  • @Tracy81258
    @Tracy81258 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Two thoughts come to mind.
    1) Navy Rule #4: If it’s stupid but it works, it isn’t stupid. I haven’t seen or used the knife, but if it works, and does what you need it to do, then that’s all that’s important. Right?
    2) Different strokes. My favorite knife is a classic Bushcraft knife. The Adventure Sworn Classic. You do you. That’s why God gave us blondes, brunettes and red heads.

    • @toddk1377
      @toddk1377 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      As long as the capet maches the drapes, then we're good...😂

  • @littlewoody5539
    @littlewoody5539 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honest video I like d2 at 60-62 it will stay sharp a long time .

  • @zoroutdoor9
    @zoroutdoor9 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    love your videos, i personally don't like this knife, but you have said the right things about it, as usual. The only time that i've had to disagree completely with you was on the terawa (love the skrama, hate the pukkos)

  • @thorsbeat
    @thorsbeat 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Survival Lilly has a knife to. It looks awesome and very practical.

  • @Lag_TV
    @Lag_TV 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This isn't related to the video at hand but are you going to check out the test run of the Bark River Ja-Nap knives?

    • @preparedmind101
      @preparedmind101  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. Those are regrinds on a model that got scrapped. So they made something new or of it that was useful. IDK if they'll keep making that exact one. So it's a collectors piece at least.

  • @BOOSTEDLASER
    @BOOSTEDLASER 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @PM101 Dont get mad but I like the JX series of knives the best.
    PLEASE make more designs !
    Semper Fi
    Gunny

  • @gewamser
    @gewamser 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review...diplomacy Chris....

  • @scoopdedoop2673
    @scoopdedoop2673 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    one of your BEST VIDS CHRIS!!

  • @cameronsmith7420
    @cameronsmith7420 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would you go with this knife or the Tom Brown Tracker? Let me know !

  • @guycalgary7800
    @guycalgary7800 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Looks like someone just futurized a kabar warthog!

  • @michaelschmitzerle2587
    @michaelschmitzerle2587 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve had mine since this review was made.
    Love it. It’s a fine knife.
    I hope folks have calmed down some since Dave drastically lowered the price with his MSK Primitive knife.

  • @bohay33
    @bohay33 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent point Chris.