Lou Michels, Jr. '85 | Warning Shots: The Military's Anthrax Vaccination Program & Its Consequences
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- John J. ("Lou") Michels Jr., L '85, discusses his role in a case he successfully argued in 2004 against the mandatory anthrax vaccination of military personnel.
Recorded on November 20, 2006.
Full title: Warning Shots: The Military's Anthrax Vaccination Program & Its Consequences.
Appearing: Scott L. Silliman (Duke University School of Law), introductions ; John J. ("Lou") Michels (McGuireWoods), speaker.
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I served with the 3rd ID 4/64th armored div. Ft. Stewart Ga. Was given the anthrax vaccination when I was 21 1998/1999. Within a week or 2 of the vaccine I became type 1 diabetic. Left out of the service and got 20% service connected through the VA. I have had swollen lymph node removed with no sign of cancer since then, with that being said they could find no cause for it. That was 22 years ago now. Diabetes has just began to present other issues with diabetic retinopathy and neuropathy.
I call for the Nuremberg 2.0 trial to be led by this guy
Wow this is aged well. It's like he had a crystal ball.
And these were the best in the brightest that they were experimenting on how do you think they feel about the average person 🤔
30 for 30.
I got multiple sclerosis from this vaccine I served from 2010 to 2017 n the army
I have Fibromyalgia and the pain has gotten so much worse this last year or so. Symptoms started over a decade ago for me. I thought I was having heart issues. Had my heart checked and everything came back good. The pain kept hitting and I'd have to remind myself that it wasn't a heart attack. It took a few more years before I got diagnosed. I was given 3 anthrax shots in 2003 (if I got my year right) while in the US Navy. I looked up the lot numbers and saw one or two was from "tainted" lots. At this point in time I get horrible migraines 2-4 times a week that last off and on all day. My back hurts horribly. I can sleep for days sometimes and still not be able to keep my eyes open. I stay at home currently with my kids but can not imagine being able to work at all now. Three years ago I remember ending days at work by collapsing on the floor and bawling when I got home because the pain was so bad. Or crawl into a hot bath and writh around in the water, crying as I hope relief would come as the heat entered my muscles. I remember crying in the back rooms at work but pushing through (as a single mom, what else do you do). Now I'm married and the pain is worse. I just can't imagine be able to work now... I really feel anthrax shots did this to me. I'm 37. I was 19 or 20 when I got the shots. I can't imagine life in ten years or twenty for that matter.
God bless you sir. I just got out of the navy a few months before the Covid jab was authorized. I’m scared for what will happen to my friends. Two people on my ship are already getting med boarded just months after getting the jab for heart issues. I hope you find the help you need.
Are you SC through the VA for the Fibro? I was just diagnosed but feel anthrax did this to me from when I was deployed and got the shots in 2002
@@AmmyC88 I have not tried to get this service linked yet. I had already filed for disability for knee problems and degenerative disk disease...just got done with that fight. I haven't tried starting the fibro fight yet. Please do try though. The more people who do, the easier it will be for those thar follow to get theirs approved. I will likely start that disability fight here soon too. I am sorry to hear of your diagnoses. Recently I have started a diet to try to get my weight down. This includes limiting sugar. I have found that my pain levels have dropped dramatically. Diet change might help manage your pain too if you are trying to find more relief than what the docs can offer.
@@fedzonk3481 thank you so much.
@@degeneratesrow3525 I am so sorry to hear about your friends being discharged with heart issues, likely caused by the shot. The other sad part about this is, they likely would have been discharged for rejecting the shot yet would not have heart problems right now. I say "likely" because I ended up getting covid and was not hospitalized but at my recent docs appointment, I had blood work done and the blood work showed my once healthy kidneys now are borderline chronic kidney disease! This likely happened because of covid. I do not regret not getting the vaccine. I am convinced that by getting the vaccine I ran the risk of having kidney damage AND heart issues! I ran into a friend of my recently and she is undergoing open heart surgery here soon. She got the shots so that she would be allowed to see her grandkids. Now her once healthy heart needs repairs. It appears we can get organ damage from either choice at the moment. I personally prefer to avoid the one risk I can have control of by not getting the shots. I go back in for blood work in 5 months and hope to find my kidneys have recovered some or maybe all of their function. I do not at all believe covid is a natural virus because there just is nothing natural about its behavior.
Desert Shield/Storm veteran here. I got anthrax vaccine and one decade later woke up blind in both eyes. Diagnosis was optic neuritis w/o any pain. Neurologist were able to restore vision in right eye with steroids. Left eye remains blind to this day. Reason I was given was multiple sclerosis. That was twenty three years ago. I’ve had bad reactions from multiple sclerosis medications. Symptoms like drop leg, uncoordination in legs and wheel chair assistance. President Bush made cut off for claims after war at seven years. My symptoms came ten years after war so I’m SOL! I don’t take medications because I don’t believe I have multiple sclerosis but some kind of after effect from anthrax “vaccine”
Did you have any eye symptoms prior to the sudden blindness?
The only “symptoms” prior to blindness were being gainfully employed
Am I the only one that remembers taking 7 of these? They would give me a shot every month for seven months. Each time they gave the shot they would switch arms always making sure to not do the shot in the arm they did the previous month. Couldn't use my arm for a whole day. I always thought it was strange. The first shot I had was administered while pulling guard on the middle of the night in a hanger where we had all of our gear staged before NTC back in 2008. I recieved the last of my shots in Mosul on our JCOP.
I took this shot in 2007 so I guess the government/military won because I am sick and there's nobody got our(over 300k w/gwi) backs.
How has this investigation / legal venture panned out please / Thanks
I was forced to take the shots when I was in Afghanistan in 2007. I have gulf war syndrome/illness so I guess he lost.
Thank you
My brother got very sick after this vaccine and he was a young healthy guy
Does anyone here knows if the Anthrax vaccine i was administered in the DoD would negatively affect me if i get the Covid vaccines ?.
Covid jabs are another biological weapon.
I had 3 Amthrax shots in Mar/Apr 2003. (#1) fav lot#66 (#2) fav lot#71 (#3) fav lot#71. Apparently lot#71 had squalene in them per Pam Asa and other researchers at Tulane University ...The book "Vaccine A" is a great book and explains everything. When discussing any symptoms at the VA they will not discuss the Amthrax shots/squalene/gulf war syndrome.
Thank you so much for the information. I was always sick, but now I don't get vaccines like that anymore and i'm never sick, but I paid the price to where I can't have kids, and what I also explained. The arthritis in back is what I can't take. They say i'm healthy, i want to know what it does to your brain, I also have cysts on my kidneys and lumps removed from under armpit. I have one now, in the left, also have legions on one breast, thank god that's no big deal. no cancer. thank you.
I think eating right, taking vitamins, getting exercise and detoxifying the body will eventually pay off. Sweating/saunas and chelation therapy is very good to remove vaccine ingredients and help arthritis. DMSA removes thimerosal/mercury and I found out fiji water removes aluminum because it has silica in it.
@@jeffscomments1865 Read about Fiji water. No water is clean. look it up on you tube also connected to the sex trafficking peolpe that just gto caught, i believe NIXViM, can't remember how to spell it. I eat healthy and clean, just have to live with it. we can actually sue big pharma though.
How can we sue? I'm tired of the suffering and tired of laboring in pain like this to make ends meet. I can't provide no future for my 4th grade daughter living like this and all I want to do is work hard like I was once able to do. The mind says one thing but the body will quickly remind you every day. I've been with my daughter every day of her life and have always provided and have paid the bills but it's getting harder and harder and at night it breaks my heart when I know she needs new shoes or something. We were robbed.
@@stevetorstenson2311 go to the va bro.
They lied,