Social Identity Theory: The Science of "Us vs. Them"

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  • One of the most fundamental insights in the psychology of prejudice and discrimination is can be found in "social identity theory." The theory, pioneered by Henri Tajfel and his colleagues, helps explain how the mere existence of ingroups and outgroups can give rise to hostility. The "us vs. them" mentality and the tribalism it evokes can be at least part of why groups have such trouble seeing eye to eye.
    Features clips from NYU psychology professor, Dr. Jay Van Bavel.
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    References
    Brewer, M. B. (1979). In-group bias in the minimal intergroup situation: A cognitive-motivational analysis. Psychological Bulletin, 86(2), 307-324.
    Brown, R. (2020). The social identity approach: Appraising the Tajfellian legacy. British Journal of Social Psychology, 59(1), 5-25. doi.org/10.1111/bjso.12349
    Brown, R. (2020). The origins of the minimal group paradigm. History of Psychology, 23(4), 371-382.
    Cialdini, R. B., Borden, R. J., Thorne, A., Walker, M. R., Freeman, S., & Sloan, L. R. (1976). Basking in reflected glory: Three (football) field studies.
    Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 34(3), 366-375.
    Dunham, Y., Baron, A. S., & Carey, S. (2011). Consequences of “minimal” group affiliations in children. Child Development, 82(3), 793-811.
    Tajfel, H., Billig, M. G., Bundy, R. P., & Flament, C. (1971). Social categorization and intergroup behaviour. European Journal of Social Psychology, 1(2), 149-178.
    Turner, J. C. (1996). Henri Tajfel: An introduction. In W. P. Robinson (Ed.), Social groups and identities: Developing the legacy of Henri Tajfel (pp. 1-23). Butterworth Heinemann
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  • @1966Graham
    @1966Graham 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    How many people here - scrolled the video back to see - how many dots there actually were - after we were told we had been lied too!

  • @dilipsubramanian3578
    @dilipsubramanian3578 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wonderful, very clear video and hugely helpful for my teaching. I let my students watch this first before discussing the theory in class and the discussions prove to be ever so much richer. Thanks very much

    • @michaels4255
      @michaels4255 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I hope you also talk to your students about the heritabilities of ingroup and outgroup ethnocentrism (which BTW are independent of one another) and ask them to think about how these traits increased the ability of their ancestors to survive and pass on their genes (otherwise the heritabilities of these two traits would be zero, which they are not).

  • @nebelgeist
    @nebelgeist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great video!
    Well explained and really pleasant style of presenting all this information :)

  • @rolijain3985
    @rolijain3985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wonderful pace, voice, info and examples. Thanks from NJ ! Great channel. Subscribed

  • @alexprice38
    @alexprice38 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bro, you were one of my psych professors in undergrad this is sick!

  • @Miepelmiep
    @Miepelmiep 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow, what a great video. Very informative, well structured and transparent.

  • @afcsport
    @afcsport 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Professor. This was very informative.

  • @AN-fu2op
    @AN-fu2op 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was very helpful! Thanks a lot!

  • @firstgvnk
    @firstgvnk ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for the video. very informative and great delivery.

  • @searchforserenity8058
    @searchforserenity8058 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice video. I watched a Big Think video that discussed the research on oxytocin. Apparently sprays of oxytocin up test subjects noses produced (predictably) a more favorable outlook toward members of our In-Group. But it had the opposite effect on those we viewed as members of our Out-Groups.

  • @MRBallSlapper-gy1lr
    @MRBallSlapper-gy1lr ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is really interesting and I was wondering, if you feel your identity is threatened how do you respond healthily?

  • @city687
    @city687 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love this video! Very useful interesting information. Also really looking forward to a video that tells us what to DO about these biases...

  • @borahasserbetci3735
    @borahasserbetci3735 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!!

  • @jhonatangomez7919
    @jhonatangomez7919 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for the effort you do with your videos, Andy, they are motivating me to learn more about psichology, I apprecciate it

  • @nima.shokouhfar
    @nima.shokouhfar ปีที่แล้ว

    Great content....!!!

  • @LabPsicometria
    @LabPsicometria 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hi Andy, I really apreciated your video. Congratulations! You mentioned that researchers have recently been studying political positioning as an identifying group. Could you provide some reference? Thank you!

    • @AndyLuttrellPsych
      @AndyLuttrellPsych  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks! I would start with Lilliana Mason's book "Uncivil Disagreement."

  • @michaels4255
    @michaels4255 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This video, like most social science theorizing, dances around the elephant in the living room, which is evolutionary adaptiveness: why did the propensity to identify with ingroups evolve? What was the genetic mechanism? What makes it adaptive (since if it were not adaptive, it would have been selected out)?

  • @iarenubie78
    @iarenubie78 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice video Andy, does it also apply in the case where one would support their country indefinitely especially during sports and derogate others while at it. What consequences would it have on the group and their personal identity.

  • @sagarsharma-bq1kp
    @sagarsharma-bq1kp ปีที่แล้ว

    Good topics for psychology students

  • @briankelly1240
    @briankelly1240 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Call out here, 'networking' for jobs specifically, rely heavily on 'in groups' such as being from same Alma mater.

  • @kittyykatie
    @kittyykatie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thanks i was just reading about this and it helps to hear a real person talk about it then just read about it hehe

  • @ejones6681
    @ejones6681 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are now in my ingroup! Go team!😄

  • @eliaskukali6992
    @eliaskukali6992 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a brilliant presentation. Thank you Sir!

  • @Joy_Fox_
    @Joy_Fox_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I SAID 36 ACTUALLY WHAT THE FUCK
    EDIT: GOD DAMN IT

  • @kshanahan8705
    @kshanahan8705 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I counted 50 dots approx, so my initial guess was right so when you said 36 I was like - huh really.... Good Topic

  • @briankelly1240
    @briankelly1240 ปีที่แล้ว

    Confused by the commentary around 7:20 on gender being an identity and relevance to Henri Tajfel.

  • @titiwhai
    @titiwhai 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Humans assess sex, age, ally don't they? Ally = us, but can be re evaluated. Doesn't it come down to primate territoriality and social entry price?

  • @JupitersLuck
    @JupitersLuck 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    you are a genius

  • @therabbithat
    @therabbithat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In fairness, over-estimators should be given more money because they will appreciate it more

  • @cbotello009
    @cbotello009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What does this say about humanity? Is there hope?

  • @jorgearaujo1341
    @jorgearaujo1341 ปีที่แล้ว

    Social identity is one of the biggest issue in human race !

  • @briankelly1240
    @briankelly1240 ปีที่แล้ว

    And those who guess the number exactly? Bet that social group was the most proud of all! haha

  • @unrealengine4958
    @unrealengine4958 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    20 dots i said ahahah

  • @yes12337
    @yes12337 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my country there was a big strike of paramedics during covid pandemic peak and this made me think how such utterly cruel and despicable act could be accepted by a very large group of people who are helping others survive by vocation? Do you have any videos which would help me to understand how all paramedics can team up on Facebook to mass murder people?

  • @vazzaroth
    @vazzaroth ปีที่แล้ว +1

    IT WAS 47! THERE WERE 47 DOTS

  • @brookesmith9494
    @brookesmith9494 หลายเดือนก่อน

    47 dots. In case anyone needs to know like I did...

  • @zzzcocopepe
    @zzzcocopepe 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think we always identify as a group. Every self-identity we have, we actually think of it as being part of a group that shares those characteristics

  • @luisbaez8730
    @luisbaez8730 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nope is 47 not 36

  • @franklludwig
    @franklludwig 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    While the Social Identity Theory describes most people, not everybody subscribes to social identities, at least not to a significant level. Being autistic, I identify as an individual first and am largely immune to group dynamics and group identities. I think that everybody is on a neurological spectrum somewhere between individual and collective identity, and that our place on this spectrum determines our views, including our political orientation. If you're interested, I wrote about at franklludwig.com/neurospectrum.html

    • @nsprojex
      @nsprojex 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very interesting, I have a thesis to write on whether a person's identity changes when they are on camera. Would you be able to provide me with some information in regards to the neurodiverse spectrum

    • @flybeep1661
      @flybeep1661 ปีที่แล้ว

      "not everybody subscribes to social identities," this is not something you choose, it's part of human psyche. You can argue your point if your weren't human otherwise it's just ignorant argueing and misunderstanding. Your comment has little to do with the topic at hand.

    • @flybeep1661
      @flybeep1661 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nsprojex Personality or identity....the first seems obvious, the second seems totally weird and a silly proposition. As if you don't know what identity is just like the other commenter.

    • @michaels4255
      @michaels4255 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      "Being autistic, I identify as" part of a group that has no group identity! Unintentionally ironical! But seriously, until you test your hypothesis on an unsuspecting group of subjects, it is not convincing. I think you might be surprised.

  • @zzzcocopepe
    @zzzcocopepe 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think you're trying to explain it simplistically and clearly but I think you are trying to make it about discrimination. When it's not necessarily always about discrimination. I mean, just because you're more inclined to trust your own group doesn't mean you discriminate against the other. I mean, why would you trust the other group over your own? That just wouldn't make sense. That was the question they asked. Which do you trust more. Your own group or the other.
    I think you have to see yourself as part of the group that isn't part of the group. And you have to see that in a healthy and positive way. And I think once you do that, you don't discriminate anymore. Because you understand things differently

  • @Yousuccbigtime
    @Yousuccbigtime 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is why $uicideboy$ named their new song us vs them

  • @flybeep1661
    @flybeep1661 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There were 47 dots.

    • @dachs2023
      @dachs2023 ปีที่แล้ว

      haha thanks 😀 also felt the need to count them now

  • @autismappreciation
    @autismappreciation 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As somebody who, like many (if not most) autistic people, doesn't take on social identities and is immune to group dynamics, I have always been baffled by these. I recently developed a model of the neurological spectrum, ranging from individual to collective identity, which explains all of these phenomena and more, such as political orientation and hierarchy. If you're interested, you can read it at franklludwig.com/neurospectrum.html

    • @nsprojex
      @nsprojex 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very interesting, I have a thesis to write on whether a person's identity changes when they are on camera. Would you be able to provide me with some information in regards to the neurodiverse spectrum

    • @franklludwig
      @franklludwig 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nsprojex Certainly. I suppose you checked out the article already; if you have additional questions, you can find my email under 'contact' in the navigation bar.

    • @nsprojex
      @nsprojex 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@franklludwig emailed you!