I just realised something and it made me bawl my eyes out. Death also means rebirth, a new beginning. Lilia was able to fill in all of the gaps, and she will finally be able to live her life from the beginning. That's why we saw the hourglass rotating, signifying that the time is resetting. That's why her mentor said: "Let us begin." 😭❤️ I freaking love that show!!
I agree, because in the tarot the death card not only means loss but also transformation, the possibility of a new beginning. This episode is a masterpiece. Brilliant from all angles.
She can then "transition" at will or even just live through her life linearly until she "meets up" with that inevitable event that is her falling to her death 😢
Death usually means rebirth in a spread. An actual death usually is foretold when the Death arcana comes in tandem with another card. When my dad died, I pulled the Death card and the 8 of Cups. Other cards in tandem with Death are, 5 of Cups, the Sun, and the King of Swords.
Theory: Wanda and Billy’s tell are HEX’s😂 Billy’s HEX is the Witches Road 😮 The door to the Witches Road glowed with the same color as Billy’s magic 😮 Agatha said (over the body of Mrs Hart) “I didn’t know you had it in you and winked at the teen”ummmm🖤
Holy hell talk about a masterful story hiding in plain sight.........it was there all along and this episode weaved everything together beautifully and made Lillia's final moments SOO emotional
As much as this was Patti’s episode, props to Sasheer for absolutely breaking me with that “No!” when she realised Lilia was going to sacrifice herself
Either Lilia got to go back to the beginning and live her life again…or she joined her mentor in the afterlife and begins a new journey. Either way it’s beautiful.
That's a (classically) romantic view/take on that, true... however, the more likely thing -- which is ultimately the real underlying lesson/message for Lilia and the viewing audience -- is that she simply ended her last few seconds of consciousness in that moment of just beginning the conversation at the table. If we continued to watch her after that moment, for instance, we would simply see the pieced-together, splintered conversation she had with her Maestra as-presented across the episode. WandaVision, DS:MoM, and now AAA are _not_ shows/movies about happy endings in those contexts; that's not being negative for negativity's sake, but rather seeing the mix of good and bad that the stories are intended to convey, which in turn makes them more true-in-essence vs being overly soft-sold. The lesson of Lilia's story is about acceptance as one goes through things, enjoying what one can and enduring the bad even when such means one has to suffer and die so long as it ultimately leads to a better good. (It's not that Lilia gets to got to "heaven", but that she lives her life across time and ultimately makes peace with what had troubled her all her life during the moments just before death -- *that* is the "heaven" she experiences: those few seconds of peace and knowing she did good in the end before she fades into oblivion.)
@@tideoftime I think your theory is still beautiful. Her last moments were of her in a hopeful time full of potential. Even if that was just her coming to peace with her life and accepting herself along with her brain "protecting" her from the shock of dying. As you said, it's her heaven.
@@tideoftime You certainly have a point. I think this is more of an open ending so audience can form their own interpretation which is great for everyone.b
I love how this episode gave us a real look into how Lilia perceives the world. The jump cuts seem confusing at first, but it's the reality Lilia has dealt with throughout the road. The whole season has been poking fun at Lilia's weird behavior and making her seem like the crazy old witch, when in reality her mind is basically free of the constraints of time. Her power exceeded her ambition, and only in her death did she realize how to use it. One of the best episodes of ANY marvel tv show hands down.
The fact that Lilia spent centuries harboring so much guilt over not being able to save her coven when she was a child but was able to use the last moments of her life to save her new one - SOBBING 😭
the more times i re watch this, the higher i end up ranking it in all of the marvel tv/movie content. the emotions this brought out surpass most of the movies and shows. It evoked the loss of elderly grandparents and dementia, but done in a beautiful way. Seriously loving this project.
I could see death bringing back everyone at the end but not because of wanting to, but because of Agatha realizing that she needs her convent or Billy realizing that what he’s missing isn’t just Tommy, but those that are important to him. Remember, you get what you most desire at the end of the road so next episode we may see some change of heart with Agatha since Lilia sacrificed herself to protect them all even though the Salem seven were really only after Agatha.
I’ve been saying this! Billy has been battling his identity if Billy or William since his introduction and I imagine the Kaplans would need some sort of closure to not knowing their William died. Billy manifesting his powers will hinge on accepting a William Kaplan and Billy Maximoff identity in one.
I've been thinking that Rio wants Agatha with her forever in death, she can't kill Agatha herself and Agatha had cheated death her entire life. I wonder if the reason Agatha was at several major accidents has something to do with giving bodies to death to avoid her own death. I also wonder if Agatha might have to give up her own life to trade for the lives of her coven
@@honeysweet4804 1000% , my mum has just been diagnosed with dementia , although early stages , this episode of Lilia’s struggle …I can’t help but see in my own mum. It’s so heartbreaking 💔
Best episode of TV I've seen all year, probably even a few years. The Queen of Cups went out like a hero, she had one of the most ICONIC "death" scenes ever. And yes, "death" because I choose to believe she's back at the beginning ❤
This episode was extremely well made and masterfully executed. Patti LuPone should get all the awards just for this episode because HOLY SHIT, that was awesome! ❤ If she doesn't, WE RIOT! I love that we got to see all of Lilia's "random lines" from earlier episodes edited together so beautifully from her perspective. All of the Tarot cards + the characters shown as the Tarot cards was beautifully done too. 😍 Death means rebirth as well, so when we see Lilia choosing to fall and then we see her as a young lady at the beginning of her journey she seemed so much more determined and happy because she wasn't afraid of her power anymore and her life was put together without her jumping around on her own timeline. I started to tear up and cry when Lilia chose to stay behind to deal with the Salem Seven and while doing so she saved her new coven which she wasn't able to do to her original coven. Patti LuPone is an ICON, a LEGEND, and a QUEEN (of Cups). Lilia will be missed. 😭💔 This show made me care about these characters in such a short time. (A thing "The Acolyte" failed to do.) Damn it Marvel, you make me love all of these new characters and then kill them off so fast. The audacity! 🥺 My mind is blown away by this excellent piece of TV. 🤯😍
Just wow. Just...wow. I finished this episode an hour ago and I'm still trying to process this. Some of the most masterful storytelling I've seen _anywhere._
This episode brought me to tears when she was doing her own tarot reading. Love this show so much! Like she's literally the Queen of Cup's card which is just magikal. Death..She can get it
No she only said that because a sword was gonna fall on Lilia and Agatha tackled her to save her and Agatha knows she sees the future. It had nothing to do with her death at the end🤦🏼♂️
@@bensenzo its literally a foreshadowing for the end of the episode as its presumed she is impaled after the salem seven fall as well. Do you mot understand how narratives work?
It's always spelled magic. Doctor Strange uses magic for example. That's always been the term and spelling and I've never seen it with a K and that's just weird. Even in comics it's spelled magic for what characters use😂
@@fuzzyotterpaws4395 Dr strange is a sorcerer, a human who borrows power from another dimension and studies magic meanwhile they're all witches, born with innate magick
@@fuzzyotterpaws4395 just because you personally haven't seen it before doesn't make it weird lol it's just new to you. but the magick spelling has been in use since the early 1900s
Lilia said she was bad at reading her first cup which is filled with tea leaves because that is the last sequence of her life just after death. She was bad at it because shes never done it.
I agree with agustin. Lilia got to go back and live her life entirely uninterrupted. And shes happy. Its beautiful. Best episode of mcu tv to date. Wow.
5:55 YES! FINALLY I hear someone with the same thought. I had a grandmother who passed calling her own child (my mother) as her mamma before she died 😭, they basically relive those memories of childhood when they're near their end 🥲
I just realized that when Agatha and Billy went to recruit Lilia in episode 3 and she gave them the names of the witches, it was because Lilia had already seen and experienced those events. That's why she joined the coven too, cause she saw that she had already joined in the future. In time travel theory that's called a bootstrap paradox, it's when a thing or an event causes itself to exist like Skynet in Terminator.
I never hear anybody commenting on Rio’s theme song but damn it was chilling when the music changed to it during her reveal. Also love the Dia De Los Muertos look for her makeup
Her young self was taken over by future Lilia. Her "mother" sensed that, that why she mentioned that she was visiting. So this means trhat when she told Jen that when she was a kid she saw her life out of sequence, this was it. Her future is her past and her past her future.
"Magic" usually refers to magicians or stage magic, whereas magick is the Science and Art of causing Change to occur in conformity with Will used by witches, sorcerers, etc.
I'm not being bias but I really love Hector Navarro's reaction it's how I literally react as well while watching every episode.❤😊 Blessed be to you all.
I think Lilia just finally realizes that her death isn't really the end for her, ironically because of the same reason she was so traumatized her whole life, 'the flow of time is an illusion'. She's experiencing all of this now like a closed loop with no end or beginning which is why we get that scene at the end. I loved this freaking episode!
Slight correction about Deadpool. Thanos cursed Deadpool never to be able to die because Deadpool and Death were in love and Thanos didn't want DP to be able to be with Death.
Aaahhh, and that Jim Croce song at the end, just rip my heart out and put it through a shredder, why don't ya???? 😭😭😭😭😭 Probably not a lot of people know "Time In a Bottle" but my dad played that record ALL the time.
Somebody may have already responded, but I didn’t know about magic with a K either so I looked it up. It actually is a thing that distinguishes ‘real’ magick from stage magic.
The song during the credits is "Time in a Bottle", The same song used during the Quicksilver scene in Days of Future past. The actor for Quicksilver, Evan Peters, was just in the previous episode last week.
This one made me cry. She is really a good witch. And now that she starts again, maybe she can save her coven with all that she knows now. This episode deserves all the Emmys! ❤️😭
"Yes! What will you do with your remaining time?" hit SO HARD with my dad in hospice now. Man, this ep really is really raw when you are near that liminal space. I just adored the Maestra in *every* scene "Is it gone? where did it go? this is not the true reason!"
“The sword isn’t falling on her, she’s falling on the sword” In Tarot the Queen of Cups upside down represents insecurity over sensitivity and emotional immaturity; The child Right side up it means compassion, kindness, and self sacrificing; The Mother
The way this episode showed that all of Lilia’s little outbursts throughout the show actually had meaning is a masterclass is screenwriting. Easily the best episodes of the show so far!
Man, Patti LuPone OWNED this episode! 26:50 I sure hope so. One of the main reasons why i was so excited when they announced this show is because i think that this whole darker, mystical, supernatural side of the MCU is still so underdeveloped and there's so many possibilities beyond the occassional Dr. Strange-movie. By now we have SO many possible ways into seeing more of this part of that world... Moon-Knight, Man-Thing and Werewolf-by-Night, the Bloodstone-family, Wiccan, a dead-or-maybe-not-Scarlet Witch, the Coven and Agatha Harkness, mentions of her son Nicholas, even the incarnation of Death now... they need to do more with this. And maybe if they're gonna insist on keeping to fail at making a Blade movie, maybe they should just bring us the Midnight Sons and have him be the frontrunner in that.
I'm calling it. Rio/Death is how our Wanda/Scarlet Witch returns. Death only takes those whose time has come. Wanda took herself out in Multiverse of Madness and it was not her time to go. She is still needed.
You think so? In Ep1 Rio did not seem to care at all about the Scarlet Witch being dead, if anything I think she'd be more mad about Billy cheating death than someone going earlier.
I was thinking that if Wanda IS dead, Death could bring her back, so you may be right…. And while Rio could appear to not care about the Scarlet Witch, I think it might be all an act..
When Agatha sees the body and asks "is she's really gone?", Rio says that that (Wanda) shouldn't be important to Agatha. And that she should focus on finding herself. So she never confirmed that Wanda is alive anyway. She only cared about Agatha waking up from the spell
5:00 -- Magic vs Magik/Magick. The former is more often used for representing conventional stage illusions/tricks whereas the latter refers to actual metaphysical/supernatural workings. 20:20 No, she's not starting her life over -- this is simply the moment when she came up to the table for her first lesson. (If we continued with that moment, we'd see again what we saw earlier: her being confused/afraid, and everything else that played out at the table during that "lesson" -- the point is that her life/existence is experienced by her out-of-order at key times. In that moment, at the beginning of the lesson, is the end of her life in her conscious mind; in the relative future, she is dying on the "floor/roof" of the tower, impaled on the sword.)
It's always spelled magic. Doctor Strange uses magic for example. That's always been the term and spelling and I've never seen it with a K and that's just weird. Even in comics it's spelled magic for what characters use😂
@@fuzzyotterpaws4395 I believe it's important for people who are actually into witchcraft and not just fiction, like comic book writers. Could be wrong tho.
@@fuzzyotterpaws4395 We're referring to real-world usage (both in the post-modern era as well as archaic spellings from centuries ago) as-used in the subtitling. Magic vs Magik/Magick, however, isn't new at all, and is used by many real-life practitioners of of mystical beliefs as a delineation between stage magic vs "real" magick (spellcasting and the like). As the show is on the more post-modern side of the comicbook genre, they're apparently leaning into that usage. (It literally doesn't matter what you've read in various comics before relative to that -- I, for instance, have been reading Dr. Strange, in various comics, since the late 70s -- as in-narratively many characters, particularly but not limited to non-practitioners, *will* use the spelling "magic" as a matter of course in general conversation... but that, again, doesn't change the validity of the alternate spelling used in this live action series. It's actually a nice touch/acknowledgement and shows that the writers/subtitles did their homework.)
Wiccans and modem day witches began adding the "k" again in the 60's. This was attributed to Gerald Gardner who is known as the Father of Wicca. The "k" indicates the practice of modern witches and Wiccans; whereas no "k"denotes the practice of stage magicians with a rabbit and hat.
I think she will be resurrected by Rio because she tells Agatha to hit the deck, how would she know what's next when she dies in the tower? So she must have a life after her death where she knows what happens in the next trial to the point of advising Agatha
I think Lilia had a conversation with Rio when she realized was death, and now knows her intentions to challenge Agatha. I would love if Lilia comes back and Alice as well, but idk
This is now officially the second highest rated episode in Marvel. The first one is the Loki ending. I hope this sticks the landing next week and give the keys to Jac Schaeffer for next Scarlet Witch projects.
I had tears in my eyes right along with you Heroes Reforged when Lillia let go, ugh. The most emotional episode for me of this series and one of the best scenes of any MCU movie or tv show to date in my opinion.
8th & 9th episode release at the same time??!!! LETS GO!!!! This show is sooo good, I cant wait! Comic book fans are eating good with Penguin and Agatha All Along!!!
Rio says all roads lead to her... I'm excited to see the end of the Witches Road. The only thing that makes me sad is that I won't see her again as Lenny from Legion, but I hope Aubrey Plaza comes up in other titles.
1:57 - “the penultimate episode” Ooh! Ooh! I get to be a nerd about this. Like, I get what you mean, and I’m not trying to bring any heat. But… since there are two more episodes to go, this is technically the antepenultimate episode. (There aren’t a lot of opportunities to whip that one out, so I have to do it where I can.)
I think they know that. The point they were making was the final two come out the same day, so they kind of count that as one episode. 🙂 Penultimate is such a great word though.
I just realised something and it made me bawl my eyes out. Death also means rebirth, a new beginning. Lilia was able to fill in all of the gaps, and she will finally be able to live her life from the beginning. That's why we saw the hourglass rotating, signifying that the time is resetting. That's why her mentor said: "Let us begin." 😭❤️
I freaking love that show!!
I agree, because in the tarot the death card not only means loss but also transformation, the possibility of a new beginning. This episode is a masterpiece. Brilliant from all angles.
It rotated but the sands didnt reverse
She can then "transition" at will or even just live through her life linearly until she "meets up" with that inevitable event that is her falling to her death 😢
Death usually means rebirth in a spread. An actual death usually is foretold when the Death arcana comes in tandem with another card. When my dad died, I pulled the Death card and the 8 of Cups. Other cards in tandem with Death are, 5 of Cups, the Sun, and the King of Swords.
Theory: Wanda and Billy’s tell are HEX’s😂 Billy’s HEX is the Witches Road 😮 The door to the Witches Road glowed with the same color as Billy’s magic 😮 Agatha said (over the body of Mrs Hart) “I didn’t know you had it in you and winked at the teen”ummmm🖤
Holy hell talk about a masterful story hiding in plain sight.........it was there all along and this episode weaved everything together beautifully and made Lillia's final moments SOO emotional
So what you're saying is... it was Lilia All Along? 😂
@@KBRoller the way in wandavision, Agatha’s song is also episode 7
i so loooove the idea of the “all along”. not just agatha but for everyone in the story. i loooove that.
😂😂😂 @@KBRoller
The fact that Lilia couldn’t save her coven the first time but she could this time 😢
🤯🥹😭👍
And she was the only survivor in the past.. But in this trial she's the only one to die😭
@@boop_9767reversed 😭
Patti needs the Emmy she never won for this episode alone
Agreed. That death gutted me.
As much as this was Patti’s episode, props to Sasheer for absolutely breaking me with that “No!” when she realised Lilia was going to sacrifice herself
It's very subtle, but you can hear Lilia put emphasis on the "ed" in "loved being a witch". She knew her journey was over.
Sharron said in the first episode that she was hoping to find an abandoned subway station, and well...
@@JRP02 damn, you’re right, didn’t clock this
Who's Sharron ?
@@Stefan-oj6oz Davis aka Mrs Hart.
@@Wizrossi think they were referencing what Agatha said after she died
I would imagine if she just fell through in the second episode, she would've been able to leave
Either Lilia got to go back to the beginning and live her life again…or she joined her mentor in the afterlife and begins a new journey. Either way it’s beautiful.
That's a (classically) romantic view/take on that, true... however, the more likely thing -- which is ultimately the real underlying lesson/message for Lilia and the viewing audience -- is that she simply ended her last few seconds of consciousness in that moment of just beginning the conversation at the table. If we continued to watch her after that moment, for instance, we would simply see the pieced-together, splintered conversation she had with her Maestra as-presented across the episode. WandaVision, DS:MoM, and now AAA are _not_ shows/movies about happy endings in those contexts; that's not being negative for negativity's sake, but rather seeing the mix of good and bad that the stories are intended to convey, which in turn makes them more true-in-essence vs being overly soft-sold.
The lesson of Lilia's story is about acceptance as one goes through things, enjoying what one can and enduring the bad even when such means one has to suffer and die so long as it ultimately leads to a better good. (It's not that Lilia gets to got to "heaven", but that she lives her life across time and ultimately makes peace with what had troubled her all her life during the moments just before death -- *that* is the "heaven" she experiences: those few seconds of peace and knowing she did good in the end before she fades into oblivion.)
I think she's not living her whole life again, more like living the moments she lost, aka "the gaps"
@@tideoftime I think your theory is still beautiful. Her last moments were of her in a hopeful time full of potential. Even if that was just her coming to peace with her life and accepting herself along with her brain "protecting" her from the shock of dying. As you said, it's her heaven.
@@tideoftime You certainly have a point. I think this is more of an open ending so audience can form their own interpretation which is great for everyone.b
I love how this episode gave us a real look into how Lilia perceives the world. The jump cuts seem confusing at first, but it's the reality Lilia has dealt with throughout the road. The whole season has been poking fun at Lilia's weird behavior and making her seem like the crazy old witch, when in reality her mind is basically free of the constraints of time. Her power exceeded her ambition, and only in her death did she realize how to use it. One of the best episodes of ANY marvel tv show hands down.
Lilia went out like a boss. She is DA GOAT.
"In the end, all roads lead to me". EPIC!
that line gave me Thanos vibes. “Where did that bring you? Back to me.” which is perfect
I kinda loved how this episode kinda literally had Agatha and Billy realize it isn't always just about them.
Rio being Death makes the comment in the first episode that she's not allowed to kill Agatha more interesting.
So she cant actually killed people just take the bodies? Or kill witches? Hope we get more answers in the finale
Can't kill someone before their 'time', I guess.
I believe Death is only there to bring people to their afterlife once they die. "Collecting bodies" as Agatha put it back in Alice's trial.
@@RaffaCakey same. Death shouldnt be able to just reap whenever they want.
Death probably made a hidden deal with Agatha that as long as she gets her bodies, Death won't take her.
I can’t get over what a masterpiece this episode was. ALL the awards. *ALL* of them. Patti Lupone, y’all. Wow.
WHAT AN EPISODE!! LuPone put on a masterclass! WOW!
The fact that Lilia spent centuries harboring so much guilt over not being able to save her coven when she was a child but was able to use the last moments of her life to save her new one - SOBBING 😭
The art direction in this episode was so good
That shot where the tower reversed and they all fell to their deaths was so hauntingly beautiful
the more times i re watch this, the higher i end up ranking it in all of the marvel tv/movie content. the emotions this brought out surpass most of the movies and shows. It evoked the loss of elderly grandparents and dementia, but done in a beautiful way. Seriously loving this project.
Same
This is my show of the year. Last few years actually.
This has definitely moved up the tier list with loki s2 and wandavision for me
Fhis and Heeramandi are tied in my heart
@@nikewavesXD It honestly passed Wandavision and Loki for me with these last couple episodes.
people really doubted it. i mean even i who loved wandavision was unsure about how an agatha show would work but god this is great
I could see death bringing back everyone at the end but not because of wanting to, but because of Agatha realizing that she needs her convent or Billy realizing that what he’s missing isn’t just Tommy, but those that are important to him. Remember, you get what you most desire at the end of the road so next episode we may see some change of heart with Agatha since Lilia sacrificed herself to protect them all even though the Salem seven were really only after Agatha.
I’ve been saying this! Billy has been battling his identity if Billy or William since his introduction and I imagine the Kaplans would need some sort of closure to not knowing their William died. Billy manifesting his powers will hinge on accepting a William Kaplan and Billy Maximoff identity in one.
@@dashkatae that also includes Wanda to comeback but her mind would not be in a normal state due to her death...
I think rio gets her bodies from the salem 7
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I've been thinking that Rio wants Agatha with her forever in death, she can't kill Agatha herself and Agatha had cheated death her entire life. I wonder if the reason Agatha was at several major accidents has something to do with giving bodies to death to avoid her own death. I also wonder if Agatha might have to give up her own life to trade for the lives of her coven
Died laughing when Hector said "Can you blame her?! NO!"
Lilia couldn’t save her original coven, but she could save this one 😢 😭
😂😂😢😢😂
thank you mentioning the Alzheimer’s parallel. this ep made me cry bc she reminds me so much of my past grandma. it was really healing for me❤
@@honeysweet4804 1000% , my mum has just been diagnosed with dementia , although early stages , this episode of Lilia’s struggle …I can’t help but see in my own mum. It’s so heartbreaking 💔
Top shelf Marvel. I cried. Phenomenal episode.
The 'i loved being a witch' broke me. Ugly crying and everything. I wasn't ready.
The promotional cards being the tarot cards in the episode!!!!!!! PEAK 🔥
Best episode of TV I've seen all year, probably even a few years. The Queen of Cups went out like a hero, she had one of the most ICONIC "death" scenes ever.
And yes, "death" because I choose to believe she's back at the beginning ❤
This episode was extremely well made and masterfully executed. Patti LuPone should get all the awards just for this episode because HOLY SHIT, that was awesome! ❤ If she doesn't, WE RIOT!
I love that we got to see all of Lilia's "random lines" from earlier episodes edited together so beautifully from her perspective. All of the Tarot cards + the characters shown as the Tarot cards was beautifully done too. 😍
Death means rebirth as well, so when we see Lilia choosing to fall and then we see her as a young lady at the beginning of her journey she seemed so much more determined and happy because she wasn't afraid of her power anymore and her life was put together without her jumping around on her own timeline.
I started to tear up and cry when Lilia chose to stay behind to deal with the Salem Seven and while doing so she saved her new coven which she wasn't able to do to her original coven. Patti LuPone is an ICON, a LEGEND, and a QUEEN (of Cups). Lilia will be missed. 😭💔
This show made me care about these characters in such a short time. (A thing "The Acolyte" failed to do.)
Damn it Marvel, you make me love all of these new characters and then kill them off so fast. The audacity! 🥺
My mind is blown away by this excellent piece of TV. 🤯😍
Just wow. Just...wow. I finished this episode an hour ago and I'm still trying to process this. Some of the most masterful storytelling I've seen _anywhere._
This episode brought me to tears when she was doing her own tarot reading. Love this show so much! Like she's literally the Queen of Cup's card which is just magikal. Death..She can get it
Literally fell on her sword to save her coven. Incredible writing.
Agatha foreshadowing how Lilia dies: “Did you not see eminent impalement in your future?” 🫣🥲
Dang
No she only said that because a sword was gonna fall on Lilia and Agatha tackled her to save her and Agatha knows she sees the future. It had nothing to do with her death at the end🤦🏼♂️
@@bensenzo its literally a foreshadowing for the end of the episode as its presumed she is impaled after the salem seven fall as well. Do you mot understand how narratives work?
@@bensenzoyeah, hon. That's what the mean with foreshadowing
The goosebumps all over when she says "Like the tower...upright." And the whole room flips...cinema.
The tower upright gave me chills. What a episode.
and such a Lilia way to beat them - who needs laser blasts and fireballs, just use your knowledge and a quick... flick of the wrist?
Magic is done by magicians in Vegas. Magick is a spiritual practice.
Do both at the same time, you’d impress Jesus
It's always spelled magic. Dr. Strange uses magic for example
It's always spelled magic. Doctor Strange uses magic for example. That's always been the term and spelling and I've never seen it with a K and that's just weird. Even in comics it's spelled magic for what characters use😂
@@fuzzyotterpaws4395 Dr strange is a sorcerer, a human who borrows power from another dimension and studies magic meanwhile they're all witches, born with innate magick
@@fuzzyotterpaws4395 just because you personally haven't seen it before doesn't make it weird lol it's just new to you. but the magick spelling has been in use since the early 1900s
THIS EPISODE WAS AMAZING OMG 🔥🔥🔥
I love that Jen is the evil queen.. obsessed with beauty but she is the old hag version of her lol
How did they manage to make every single episode better than the previous one?
Been asking myself the same thing
True, it gets better whenever I think the next one can't get any better than the first one
Maybe that's why they stopped at 9, so people don't explode while trying to watch their TV?
@@stephendaniels2213 I guess they know their limits. Although all cast did say that episode 7 is the best one. 😂😂😂
This episode solidified this show in my top 3 marvel TV shows
One of the best TV episodes in the MCU.
Lilia said she was bad at reading her first cup which is filled with tea leaves because that is the last sequence of her life just after death. She was bad at it because shes never done it.
I like that most of us had the “Wow” reaction after the episode
Impeccable script and direction beyond the cameras, bring an award to Jac Schaeffer 😭💜
I agree with agustin. Lilia got to go back and live her life entirely uninterrupted. And shes happy. Its beautiful. Best episode of mcu tv to date. Wow.
5:55 YES! FINALLY I hear someone with the same thought. I had a grandmother who passed calling her own child (my mother) as her mamma before she died 😭, they basically relive those memories of childhood when they're near their end 🥲
I just realized that when Agatha and Billy went to recruit Lilia in episode 3 and she gave them the names of the witches, it was because Lilia had already seen and experienced those events. That's why she joined the coven too, cause she saw that she had already joined in the future. In time travel theory that's called a bootstrap paradox, it's when a thing or an event causes itself to exist like Skynet in Terminator.
Lilia falling looked like Buttercup falling at the end of The Princess Bride.
I never hear anybody commenting on Rio’s theme song but damn it was chilling when the music changed to it during her reveal. Also love the Dia De Los Muertos look for her makeup
I hear "what is up homies" and I hit the like button.
I hear "wha-" and I hit it
Her young self was taken over by future Lilia. Her "mother" sensed that, that why she mentioned that she was visiting. So this means trhat when she told Jen that when she was a kid she saw her life out of sequence, this was it. Her future is her past and her past her future.
"Magic" usually refers to magicians or stage magic, whereas magick is the Science and Art of causing Change to occur in conformity with Will used by witches, sorcerers, etc.
I'm not being bias but I really love Hector Navarro's reaction it's how I literally react as well while watching every episode.❤😊 Blessed be to you all.
This episode was a masterpiece!
I think Lilia just finally realizes that her death isn't really the end for her, ironically because of the same reason she was so traumatized her whole life, 'the flow of time is an illusion'. She's experiencing all of this now like a closed loop with no end or beginning which is why we get that scene at the end. I loved this freaking episode!
Slight correction about Deadpool. Thanos cursed Deadpool never to be able to die because Deadpool and Death were in love and Thanos didn't want DP to be able to be with Death.
Aaahhh, and that Jim Croce song at the end, just rip my heart out and put it through a shredder, why don't ya???? 😭😭😭😭😭 Probably not a lot of people know "Time In a Bottle" but my dad played that record ALL the time.
And that Croce wrote it about his newborn child to express his love and then died soon after and didn't get to see him grow up.
Somebody may have already responded, but I didn’t know about magic with a K either so I looked it up. It actually is a thing that distinguishes ‘real’ magick from stage magic.
Wow look at that, good writing make good characters... Jac Schaeffer should be the one writing id Scarlett witch get her own movie
@@weareparamore1597 she has a good writing team
We missed you Hector! Please don't leave us again!
"Don't be walking backwards near me dude. I'll karate chop your ass" - Hector classic
The song during the credits is "Time in a Bottle", The same song used during the Quicksilver scene in Days of Future past. The actor for Quicksilver, Evan Peters, was just in the previous episode last week.
This is the perfect episode.
And it's beautiful! ❤
This episode elevates the series. Now this one is for sure a rewatch.
Welcome back Hector!!! This Episode was phenomenal ❤🎉
20:44 this. I love to laugh as much as the next guy but the MCU is fantastic when it’s not killing you with humor.
her coven leader asked whether shes visiting in the beginning of the show and she said yes cause shes not dead yet.
Patti Lupone is a National Treasure
Best episode so far!!!! 😭✨
This one made me cry.
She is really a good witch. And now that she starts again, maybe she can save her coven with all that she knows now. This episode deserves all the Emmys! ❤️😭
"Yes! What will you do with your remaining time?" hit SO HARD with my dad in hospice now. Man, this ep really is really raw when you are near that liminal space.
I just adored the Maestra in *every* scene "Is it gone? where did it go? this is not the true reason!"
Magick is spelt the same way in Star Wars with the Nightsisters etc! More of a witchy term than general street magic from a magician, for example!
I have sit on Hector, "Thanos in love with Death!!" 😂😂
“The sword isn’t falling on her, she’s falling on the sword”
In Tarot the Queen of Cups upside down represents insecurity over sensitivity and emotional immaturity; The child
Right side up it means compassion, kindness, and self sacrificing; The Mother
Great episode. Love a timey wimey episode.
Enjoyed your reaction as usual.
This is such a good one. I enjoyed Lilia and how her story ended, it felt satisfying. Also welcome back Hector
PATTI NEEDS TO WIN THE EMMY!
The way this episode showed that all of Lilia’s little outbursts throughout the show actually had meaning is a masterclass is screenwriting. Easily the best episodes of the show so far!
Man, Patti LuPone OWNED this episode!
26:50 I sure hope so. One of the main reasons why i was so excited when they announced this show is because i think that this whole darker, mystical, supernatural side of the MCU is still so underdeveloped and there's so many possibilities beyond the occassional Dr. Strange-movie. By now we have SO many possible ways into seeing more of this part of that world... Moon-Knight, Man-Thing and Werewolf-by-Night, the Bloodstone-family, Wiccan, a dead-or-maybe-not-Scarlet Witch, the Coven and Agatha Harkness, mentions of her son Nicholas, even the incarnation of Death now... they need to do more with this.
And maybe if they're gonna insist on keeping to fail at making a Blade movie, maybe they should just bring us the Midnight Sons and have him be the frontrunner in that.
Agatha All Along
Deadpool and Wolverine
X-Men '97
Loki Season 2
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3
Not sure if anybody noticed but the MCU is BACK! 🤯🤯
I'm calling it. Rio/Death is how our Wanda/Scarlet Witch returns. Death only takes those whose time has come. Wanda took herself out in Multiverse of Madness and it was not her time to go. She is still needed.
You think so? In Ep1 Rio did not seem to care at all about the Scarlet Witch being dead, if anything I think she'd be more mad about Billy cheating death than someone going earlier.
I was thinking that if Wanda IS dead, Death could bring her back, so you may be right…. And while Rio could appear to not care about the Scarlet Witch, I think it might be all an act..
When Agatha sees the body and asks "is she's really gone?", Rio says that that (Wanda) shouldn't be important to Agatha. And that she should focus on finding herself. So she never confirmed that Wanda is alive anyway. She only cared about Agatha waking up from the spell
Absolutely love that music cue to the credits, too. Damn! 💕
we really miss some marvel series being this good
5:00 -- Magic vs Magik/Magick. The former is more often used for representing conventional stage illusions/tricks whereas the latter refers to actual metaphysical/supernatural workings.
20:20 No, she's not starting her life over -- this is simply the moment when she came up to the table for her first lesson. (If we continued with that moment, we'd see again what we saw earlier: her being confused/afraid, and everything else that played out at the table during that "lesson" -- the point is that her life/existence is experienced by her out-of-order at key times. In that moment, at the beginning of the lesson, is the end of her life in her conscious mind; in the relative future, she is dying on the "floor/roof" of the tower, impaled on the sword.)
It's always spelled magic. Doctor Strange uses magic for example. That's always been the term and spelling and I've never seen it with a K and that's just weird. Even in comics it's spelled magic for what characters use😂
@@fuzzyotterpaws4395 I believe it's important for people who are actually into witchcraft and not just fiction, like comic book writers. Could be wrong tho.
@@fuzzyotterpaws4395 We're referring to real-world usage (both in the post-modern era as well as archaic spellings from centuries ago) as-used in the subtitling. Magic vs Magik/Magick, however, isn't new at all, and is used by many real-life practitioners of of mystical beliefs as a delineation between stage magic vs "real" magick (spellcasting and the like). As the show is on the more post-modern side of the comicbook genre, they're apparently leaning into that usage. (It literally doesn't matter what you've read in various comics before relative to that -- I, for instance, have been reading Dr. Strange, in various comics, since the late 70s -- as in-narratively many characters, particularly but not limited to non-practitioners, *will* use the spelling "magic" as a matter of course in general conversation... but that, again, doesn't change the validity of the alternate spelling used in this live action series. It's actually a nice touch/acknowledgement and shows that the writers/subtitles did their homework.)
Wiccans and modem day witches began adding the "k" again in the 60's. This was attributed to Gerald Gardner who is known as the Father of Wicca. The "k" indicates the practice of modern witches and Wiccans; whereas no "k"denotes the practice of stage magicians with a rabbit and hat.
For Agatha, the new rockstars breakdowns aren’t coming until Fridays 😘
So just time jump to Friday, then come back and tell us what they said 😁
RIP LILIA!! What a great character!
Best Marvel show episode since Loki season 2.
I think she will be resurrected by Rio because she tells Agatha to hit the deck, how would she know what's next when she dies in the tower? So she must have a life after her death where she knows what happens in the next trial to the point of advising Agatha
I think Lilia had a conversation with Rio when she realized was death, and now knows her intentions to challenge Agatha. I would love if Lilia comes back and Alice as well, but idk
Her special talent is seeing the future. Seers almost always make predictions beyond their lifetime.
Yeah, this is going in my rotation yearly for Halloween.
This is one of the best tv episode of any shows so far
I love this show. It has a lot of great twists and mind trickery.
I totally agree with Adam about characters coming back.... with a really good reason! Love you guys!
This is now officially the second highest rated episode in Marvel. The first one is the Loki ending. I hope this sticks the landing next week and give the keys to Jac Schaeffer for next Scarlet Witch projects.
This is without a doubt my favourite episode of everything Marvel TV so far
Patti Lupone is a master class of acting and stage!!!!
I had tears in my eyes right along with you Heroes Reforged when Lillia let go, ugh. The most emotional episode for me of this series and one of the best scenes of any MCU movie or tv show to date in my opinion.
8th & 9th episode release at the same time??!!! LETS GO!!!! This show is sooo good, I cant wait! Comic book fans are eating good with Penguin and Agatha All Along!!!
This show is so good! Love all the Wanadavision tie-ins as well.
I wanr patti to come back on future shows/movies as wiccan's spiritual guide. Love to see patti and joe together again! 🤞🤞🙏❤
I suspect they would as well
Masterful story telling. Everything about this episode is Emmy worthy . I’m sorry but this is probably best episode in marvel tv series history
Rio says all roads lead to her... I'm excited to see the end of the Witches Road. The only thing that makes me sad is that I won't see her again as Lenny from Legion, but I hope Aubrey Plaza comes up in other titles.
1:57 - “the penultimate episode”
Ooh! Ooh! I get to be a nerd about this. Like, I get what you mean, and I’m not trying to bring any heat. But… since there are two more episodes to go, this is technically the antepenultimate episode. (There aren’t a lot of opportunities to whip that one out, so I have to do it where I can.)
I think they know that. The point they were making was the final two come out the same day, so they kind of count that as one episode. 🙂 Penultimate is such a great word though.
They meant the penultimate episode of their youtube series, not of the show