Roll-On Roll-Over: The Loss of Car Carrier Golden Ray
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 พ.ค. 2024
- The Car Carrier Golden Ray was lost on Sunday September 8, 2019 when transiting the Saint Simons Sound at the Port of Brunswick, Georgia. The rescue, investigation and salvage that followed were all incredibly complex.
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▶Timestamps:
00:00 Opening
00:54 "Ro-Ro" Roll-On Roll-Off Vessels - A Brief History
03:39 "PCC" Pure Car Carriers - A Brief History
12:00 The Golden Ray - A Pure Car & Truck Carrier
17:00 Voyages: Freeport, Key West, Jacksonville
19:56 The Golden Ray Arrives at the Port of Brunswick, Georgia
25:00 September 8, 2019 - Getting Underway from Brunswick
28:39 The Golden Ray Approaches Saint Simons Sound
31:27 Mounting a Complex, Harrowing Rescue
35:51 Deep in Engineering, There Was No Escape
42:06 Aftermath; Pollution & Investigation
49:36 NTSB Findings, Conclusions and Recommendations
51:36 The Golden Ray Salvage Efforts
53:10 Massive Lawsuit by Parties Affected
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love listening to your presentations mate, love from Australia
I like to think the nickname for Immortar Supporters could be Bricks. We are all bricks in the wall of safety.
great quality vid your kiddos got a great guy for a father hope they appreciate that
Would you ever cover the sinkings of warships, perhaps the IJN Hiei or Kirishmia?
I wonder, what's the process you go through in choosing subjects for these videos?
why apologize for going into detail or getting into the weeds?!?!!? i think the people who are watching your content are interested in that stuff. noticed this trend on other channels too.
Probably aware most people have a 30 second attention span these days due to tik tok numbing their minds
More “weeds” please 🙏
Agreed. I find maritime technology fascinating.
Yeah, me too! Fascinating!
@@DayFeen But at the same time, I see a shift to longer videos on many channels. There's a contradiction somewhere here
The contrast with the response to MV Sewol is particularly striking. Lots of skilled people taking initiative to help.
This was a super professional operation
Isn't it just? It's all who and when, isn't it?
I think there were a bunch of skilled people willing to help, but either the SK government refused to allow them to help or actively played a part in making the outside help refuse to help due to safety issues. For example the US dive team coming and later refusing to help due to a large number of safety issues, such as mooring right over the wreck and unqualified government officials wanting to "check" over the equipment potentially tampering with the safe operating of said equipment...
Makes the MV Sewol even more tragic to know.
@@zachsmith1676 Yup. That incident was so fraught with tragedy and incompetence that the RoK ended up with a new government afterwards.
"... refreshing to take on a project with no loss of life". I was half expecting someone to die, and pleasantly surprised that no one died for it. This shows the amount of professionalism, bravery and teamwork of the rescuers. Stark contrast to what happened to the Sewol which is a tragedy.
Are you kidding me, do you realize the gross generosity given To the amount of debris and damage and pollution by insurance? Soo much species damage and death and pollution. It’s probably 10s of times higher than the amount of crap allowed in just edible human food. This was a massive failure. 😞
@@hoopslaa5235 It's pretty clear OP was referring to the rescue operation. Give credit where credit is due. The ship was in an extremely precarious situation, but despite all that, everyone on board was rescued. The coast guard and everyone who partook deserve praise for their work.
@@hoopslaa5235A failure would be everything you listed *on top* of the loss of human life. A 100% human survival rate is a stunning success in the face of an unavoidable ecological tragedy.
No need to apologize for “getting in the weeds”. I watch your channel to learn about stuff of which I have no knowledge so I enjoy when you go into detail or even when you go on mini rants.
Exactly. While some are better than others, you can only fit so much into short 10 minute episodes like are everywhere on TH-cam. The weeds are why I adore this channel so much.
100% agree its also helps to kinda give a shape to our narrator so that he isn’t just a voice
Me too. Speaking of rollovers, are there any videos of Bender-made sinkings? Don't know anything about them, but always was hearing about those.
I'm a retired Master Mariner. Your work is of a high standard. I'm impressed. Well done.
That sounds pretty damn cool. Im at a turning point in life and looking to transition out of carpentry and framing, exploring my options. The ocean has always interested me. Any tips on a good place to look for advice or small communities that would be helpful?
Enjoy your retirement, cap!
As soon as I saw the door was on the port side and the turn out of the harbor was to starboard, I knew exactly what was going to happen. Absolutely heroic efforts by the cg, first responders, and other vessels to save everyone on board.
I thought that the turn would cause the open door to flood the ship enough to cause a free surface effect, but it turned out to only be an exacerbating factor after the stability miscalculations were the true culprit after a simple turn doomed the ship.
@@Raptor747I was thinking the same thing
Why was the door even open? Shouldn't they close it if they're leaving port?
@@rebeccacarr5154 They opened it because the pilot was about to step off the ship in 5 minutes, but then left it unattended. Like, what's the worst thing that could happen?
Oops...
@@TTFerdinand Does the door take 15 minutes to open? It seems odd to just leave the watertight door open that long if you can open it on demand. He said an opening on deck 5 would lead to water coming in with a 17-degree list, but even with the wrong stability calculations the vessel would still have righting force up to a 25-degree list account to this source. Another source I saw mentioned if deck 5 doors were sealed it would take an 80-degree list to do that but that can't be right since that's basically the ship sideways.
As a Ship's Master, former Marine Pilot & company DPA I find these videos accurate and very well researched. It's so refreshing to see things done properly.
Great work Sam.
I live on Jekyll Island (right next to where the boat turned over), the Ray was huge and it took what felt like years for the salvage operation to end on St Simons island. It was pretty crazy to see
The RSM camera cutting right before showing it will always be funny to me
Yea, it seemed like that thing was there forever. It gave me something to look at on my otherwise sleepy commute every day.
As someone who lives where this happened, I honestly never expect anyone to care enough to make a deep dive on it. Seeing it on my feed was a pleasant surprise cause i loved going to the port to see the slices of ship lol. Glad someone who actually takes time for their research cover it after the few short years of it's roll over!
It's nice to see a little cameo for Georgia's ports ^_^
I followed the updates from the day after when I heard she capsized, elated when I saw the engineering crew survived!
Yes I am so happy to see this video being from Jacksonville and going to Jekyyl Island a lot. I always wondered what really happened.
I'll always appreciate your quality over quantity. Being a dad is priority #1. Always will be. So, a big thanks to you for your amazing work as a content creator, de facto educator, and papa 😅 Also, a big thanks to those of your fans who make this possible for you to do!
Ditto this ❤
Hard same. I'll take quality over quantity any day of the week. You've got my support!
The U.S. Coast guard is the life-saving branch of the military, what a professional organization!
I agree. Unfortunately our govt has sent the US Coastguard to places it does not belong like the Persian Gulf, the Red Sea, the Indian Ocean, the South China Sea, etc... Places that should be the sole domain of our navy. We need the US Coastguard protecting Americans at home.
And those fuckers truly go out in the worst conditions imaginable and do it on a daily basis, they screw up they die, there's a long list of grave registry's of men who got unlucky being in that service, it's unforgiving and pisses me off when they equate them to being the most sissy service
@@olliefoxx7165The Coast Guard has been alongside the Navy for a long time. During WWII they were treated as a Navy auxillary.
They rarely get the recognition they deserve
The Coast Guard is an agency in the Department of Homeland Security. One of its missions, however, is to support the National Defense Strategy. This includes USCG deployments around the globe in support of Combatant Commanders. This goes back historically at least to WWII where fifteen Coasties lost their lives on D-Day. Douglas Munro, a USCG signalman, was awarded the Medal of Honor at Guadalcanal. In the present era, the USCG supports military missions (port security I believe) in the Middle East and in the polar regions with its icebreaking capabilities.
Great work. I was a Chief Officer aboard tankers for many years. I wonder if the NTSB looked at if the Chief Officer was overworked (not uncommon) and the likelihood that he simply put in ballast figures to make the software show a better GM, to reduce his workload? A more effective system would take out some of the human error by having SAAB radar sensors in the ballast tanks that feed the stability computer and there fore more accurate and can't be over-ridden with out alarming (this is an engineering control under the Hierarchy of Controls and much more effective). I think there is more to this incident that uncovered. The recommendation to the Operator should include: 1. physically verifying the actual amount of ballast in each separate tank by a second independent crew member - not just the verifying the calculations. 2. The Master should be required by the SMS to verify and sign the load/stability/damage control plan. 3. The open WTD's should have indicator lights on the bridge (remember Herald of Free Enterprise). The technology to reduce the risk of this incident has been available for many years. Disclaimer: I never sailed on a Car Carrier, but I did dock and undock a couple in the Port of LA while riding with LA Pilots. These ships are like corks on the water and subject to significant wind cross track error.
I just looked up the Herald and my goodness! Why aren't Ro-Ros subject to much closer oversight? Everytime these ships take passengers and crew down it's very analogous to a plane crash. I wonder how much of the poor follow through of NTSB recommendations have to do with the sweatheart deal they get (in terms of liability anyway)?
edited to add that the Herald would be a good disaster investigation for this channel
I have no background in shipping, but it did occur to me that the Chief Officer, for whatever reason (overwork, laziness or incompetence) might have fallen into the habit of just fudging the stability computations, and it finally caught up with him. It is also possible that he simply made an error somewhere. But whichever is true, not having any checks on such a critical calculation, whether in the software, or having another human being verify the results, seems like a recipe for disaster.
I don't know, all your solutions sound like work. What if we just continue looking away and save a few bucks every time it works out well?
@@mipmipmipmipmip Unfortunately that's the apathetic view many take.
@@mipmipmipmipmip That seems to be the pattern in these accident videos. All the systems the OP talked about sound really good, but I’m sure they are expensive and sadly a lot of the companies want to cut costs as much as possible.
The comparison with an aircraft carrier was eye-opening. Not that I wouldn't expect aicraft carriers to be remarkably stable or private companies to cut corners, but the danger of rollover makes a lot more sense.
Literally rollovers are so problematic it's mind blowing to see modern stabilized floating rigs and other such vessels like hotels and such, I mean truly truly impressive engineering that is rarely noticed, and don't need trimming either, just underwater stabilizing fans but that's a morons way of describing it but that's what I am 😂
I love the depth of detail. The news gives only the barest hint of the complex factors involved in these accidents and I think it's awesome how you break it down for us. I am so glad to see the rescue was so well handled and that all survived. It does make me grieve a little more for the kids on MV Sewol though, and leaves me wondering what the outcome would've been had a well- executed response taken place
I love not just the level of detail but that a long process is summarized in a clear and understandable way.
Great video, for exactly these reasons. Thank you! And I think a video about the salvage/breakup process would be fascinating.
I know very very very little about ships/ferries, etc and the first time I heard the term ‘pilot’ I was sooooo confused, but thanks to this page I not only understand what’s being talked about, I come away from each video learning something new.
I agree, I listened to one on the kids ferry and I was gutted
Don't ever apologize for getting "in the weeds". I love details, and thrive on the knowledge. Don't ever settle for less, or lower your standards appealing to a lower common denominator.
nearly 150F/70C is insane, I'm genuinely surprised that all of them were able to survive in that kind of atmosphere
I assume that was near the top of the room, which is why the crew members went back down near the water level.
For real. People can suffer heatstroke at less than 100 F degrees, especially with high humidity. 150 is hard to even imagine.
(Interesting fact: the Fahrenheit system is based off of what is safe and most comfortable to the human body, which normally operates at ~98.6 F body temperature, and anything above 101 F is considered a fever.)
@@CharlieApples
Have a vehicle sit during high summer days then jump straight in. Unpleasant to say the least. Cars sitting in open parking lots waiting to be loaded onto ships have been measured to reach this temperature. It is no joke, like a punch in the face. Before key fobs they all came with the old school ignition key which always stung your leg while driving 😂
I got the impression they were half immersing themselves in the cold salt water to try to regulate their heat, I could have misunderstood that part though.
@@CharlieApples Theres a lot of hidden reasons why we love the imperial system, especially machinists. I think its an incredibly intuitive system, but that might just be my backwards brain. 🙃
It's astounding that things aren't double-, triple- and quadruple-checked on ships like this. I feel like I pay more attention to double-checking things when I cut a piece of lumber then these guys who run massive ships!
I've nothing to base this on, but it sounds like a turnaround deadline problem taking priority.
I'm inclined to agree. How many times has actual process differed from the book in order to meet a deadline after all? @@JBinFL
I worked onboard a ship some years ago and I can tell you that, like anything else, things slip through the cracks despite people's best efforts.
Once before sail we conducted a complete search of the ship, looking in every location to try and find potential stowaways.
Search came back clean until a day or so after we set sail when two guys showed up and were caught trying to get food from a person. They had stowed away in a covered lifeboat directly over the top of where the search had met and been managed.
It's things like that that make you realize how mistakes can happen in some of the disasters you read about.
Complacency is one of the biggest killers.
@matthewmosier8439 - There's a huge difference between missing two stowaways on a massive ship and leaving a 7×7 foot door open right at the waterline .
In a youtube enviornment that is flooded with low effort content and plagiarism copy pasted videos are basically normalised, I just wanted to say that I really appreciate and respect the amount of research and dedication goes into making your videos. Keep up the amazing work u.u
The victory picture of them all standing on the hull after the beautiful rescue is phenomenal. Speaks volumes.
Great video. I second your concluding remark, it WAS refreshing that there was no loss of human life. I know there's a "Real-Life Horror" crowd. But that just isn't me, I'm part of the "Lesson's Learned / Procedures Amended" tiny subset of followers. 😀
Wishing you and everyone here the very best.
I was so grateful when I heard they got all the engineers out of the ship, finally. I just knew when they still couldn't locate the very last person that he was a goner...so I was really happy to hear he was located mere hours afterward. I cannot imagine the abject fear they went through being trapped way down in the bowels of that ship, being surrounded by increasing water ingress, breathing nasty fumes of fires/oil & total darkness. The tenacity of the people to get them out of there is really something!
100%. I love the ones where everybody lives!! The sinking of a ship is still an enormous and fascinating event to discuss, without the added tragedy of lives lost.
Agreed. As I get older, studying "how can and do things go wrong" just seems to hit home as more and more useful, whatever your walk of life. Failure points, system dynamics, and root causes are far more interesting to me than morbidness of details.
What I cant understand, is how is there not any kind of automated warning system in regards to the dang doors???? Literately every car in that ship will ding ding ding if you leave a door open, but not the 60+ million dollar ship?? How is there not a sensor 4 feet under every door that will blow the bridge up with alarms if a door is open and that sensor is getting wet?? I'm sure there are far more sophisticated solutions than what I just laid out but how was there NONE applied at all??
There are requirements for indicators on these doors to show open and closed position, with the watertight door panel on the bridge. All watertight doors are required to be closed before getting underway. The pilot door indicator appears to have malfunctioned, or the bridge panel wasn't checked.
I think I can speak for a lot of people here when I say please don't ever go the quantity over quality route...
The stuff you make is great and there are very few channels here on TH-cam that do anything remotely similar. A lot of larger media has shifted away from doing anything with/about accidents like these too. And while I understand the reasoning to an extent, I am here mainly for the engineering side of things. Big machines break, and if you don't study how and why there is no way to ever build them better.
Almost everyone I have sent your content to over the past year has loved it. It harkens back to the days when the big TV channel players actually cared to air good documentaries, instead of the brainless crap they put on nowadays. Where the only 'accident' or 'drama' is an un-seen producer flipping a breaker off screen. To this day I find it endlessly ironic that single individuals on TH-cam can make better content than big companies can.
And speaking from the more everyday side of things. Some of your content has made me more aware of many of the things around me that I am so comfortable with that I would never expect them to break. And while I hope to never need that knowledge for anything, it can't hurt to know...
My wife is crying that the release date is not today but tomorrow. Thank you for her crippling addiction!
I must be your wife because I was prepared with food for this but missed the Am/Pm
When I clicked on this, and discovered that it was going to be an hour, I figured I would watch to get the idea, then click out. But this is so well done and presented, it had me riveted to my seat. I generally have no interest in ships or other peoples misfortune. That being said, I consider this an hour well spent, and I learned several things I did not know before. I think there is a good chance this will break a million views!
Glad to hear about a maritime disaster that didn’t cause any deaths for once. They’re really lucky that this didn’t happen out to sea. When you mentioned the hurricane, I thought for sure that would have something to do with it.
Thanks for all that you do. This is one of my favorite channels on TH-cam.
When this happened I was floored that they got everyone off alive. I had a business trip in Savannah several months after she capsized and took a detour on the way back to see the wreck. Ever since the MV Tricolor wreck (another car carrier) I’ve been impressed with the cable cutting method used to section ships for salvage.
The quality of your work is the only justification needed for the more sparse upload schedule compared to other channels. Of course dad time is a necessity. I can only imagine your kid(s) will be making Lego buildings and ships, and then having failure analysis lessons if they fall apart.
Thank you for your work! Greetings from Greece :) I teach my nephew English, HSE and the magic of all maritime operations through this channel. God bless!
Kinda cool seing more of his personality shine through these videos as time goes on, helps me see that he's genuinely passionate about this and the quality/love that shines through is amazing. I'm excited to see what comes out in the future from this channel.
Yeah, I almost did a double take because I'm not used to it. I like it though.
Well put
My prediction is future content will involve maritime accidents in some way.
The Brick Immortar Lore is a great "subplot" to follow as time goes on. I feel like he could easily do a podcast just talking about various things like fatherhood and industry insights. Would also be cool to bring in other professionals from other industries to talk about their experiences, or provide insight as to other safety related events and learnings. Would have plenty to choose from as the comments sections are always filled with them, drawn by BI's amazing and hard work.
Gotta say, I like your nerding out over small details from time to time. It helps illustrated your enthusiasm for the subject matter.
Incredibly informative, as a fisherman in San Diego we see these ships every week coming and going through the bay it’s great to understand the whole process these car carriers go through
I greatly appreciate your explanations of the different terms, like "stevedore" and so on. Not knowing much about ships, but I love them. I watch several ship-type video creators.
Great video, thank you kindly.
When I was a merchant mariner in '80 or so, the breakbulk freighter I was on went through a huge storm on the way to Yokohama. We moored within sight of a Toyota RORO, and later heard they'd sustained damage in yhe same storm we'd experienced, but they had cut through the worst part of it.
The ship had rolled so severly that cars came loose and bounced around, causing others to come loose, and by the time they got back to Japan most of their cargo of brand new Toyots cars and trucks were a total loss.
Hard to believe there was no blaring alarm warning the bridge that large door was wide open while under way. Airliners have an"ECAM" system. Electronic Centralized Aircraft Monitor. Tells them the condition of all the doors and emergency exits, among many other things.
Its quite possible there are warning signal about the doors. But having a blaring alarm carry its own problem of creating a nuisance warning and operator bypassing it. Northwest airline 255 pilot potentially pulled a P-40 circuit breaker to stop takeoff config warning due to nuisance alarm while taxing, they crashed trying to take off without deploying flaps.
Right after this happened I was on vacation at jekyll island. I knew they were large but seeing the golden ray turned over on its side absolutely blew my mind they are massive. I also went back to watch them cut it up and move the sections away.
Just wanted to say this: I don't know anything about transportation logistics or ships. But I find listening to your videos to be very calming while I work. Your content has made me more aware of safety protocols. Thanks for producing quality content!
My first ship I was assigned to as a cadet was the SS Northern Lights (El Faro) and also sailed on ships like the Golden Ace. I went to the the maritime academy with the pilot of the Golden Ace. He graduated 2 years before me and dorm was a few doors down from me at the academy.
Does that ever freak you out?
I can not understate how much I enjoy Brick Immortar's videos. The topics of his videos are incredibly inserting and often gives the spot like on these little know parts of these scenarios the public often doesn't see. The Visuals too are just really fun and unique to see and helps greatly to tell a story, you can tell just how much effort goes into them too. Keep up the good work man and thank you for the amazing content!
Though not a mariner myself (at least in this life), I am fascinated by your stories. I have binged-watched all of them. I actually love the detail and the long videos. Just became a patron. The quality of your videos is excellent. My father was a submariner who patrolled the North Atlantic in the late 1950s aboard the U.S.S. Sailfish. He never saw combat because his tour was between the Korean Conflict and the Vietnam Conflict, but still never talked talked much about his time in the Navy. He'll turn 86 on Dec 18. Thank you for your precise but sensitive telling of these accidents and tragedies.
Well, I was always told it was the Sailfish but Wikipedia says the Sailfish was decommissioned in 1945. Maybe it was not the original Sailfish (nee Squalus).
Was so happy hearing Scotland (Edinburgh) getting mentioned with Thomas Bouch, and then that was immediately quashed with learning he went onto design the first Tay Bridge… welp, at least my country got a mention, that’s something
I usually watch TH-cam videos while I work on puzzles/word search/coloring (major multi-tasker!). But your videos get my undivided attention, even pausing occasionally to zoom in on the excellent visuals. Your meticulous attention to quality and content is greatly appreciated. I really enjoyed your personal images, as well!
H&M 40M, P&I 140M cargo damages+ >50M Environmental response + Lots of ancillary damages… the underwriters poured some stiff drinks before cutting those checks.
Im convinced that these deep dives into the failures and the safety procedures to keep these things from happening in the first place are crucial not only to their own respective industries, but also to the public abroad. I really appreciate these videos and look forward to each and every one of them.
15:02 I used to work in....not really logistics but was responsible for providing delivery dates among other things. Something coded "LTL" was a giant question mark and they drove me nuts. I never knew what it stood for so I really appreciate the "in the weeds" reference.
When you said that it was relief to escape one of these documentaries, with no life being lost, I actually audibly cheered.
Obvious there were many other consequences but staying with the savior of human life, that part was a victory :)
Cheers from Canada.
Idk why shipwrecks are so interesting to me, i have a phobia of drowning
Same, I hate deep water and I have an irrational fear of ship wrecks
I absolutely appreciate your content! I get super excited when a new documentary pops up! I'd totally support your work if I wasn't completely broke! These videos are so in depth. Thank you for what you do!
Years L8tr people will forget & wonder why huge volumes of fish wash up dead on some shoreline coasts .
Watching from aboard a Roro right now! Always love your videos, hope I don't end up the subject of one
Your timing is impeccable!! Just yesterday I thought about you and wondered, when your next video would come out. Yours are always long and in depth, so I understand it takes more time, and I'm happy whenever I see new content from you. Looking forward to watching it!
"regardless of how you feel about the environment" is such a sad thing to have to say.
OMG...you caught that phrase, too? I thought it was just me. When I heard that my mouth just flew open & I was like..say what?!
@@user-mg6wn4hs5tpreach. I can't imagine hearing about a massive spill in a situation like this and not thinking twice about it.
@@user-mg6wn4hs5tThe environment is important to most people, but the opinions of what best utilizes and protects it vary from person to person.
Some people, for instance, would believe that EVs are an environmental liability while others would assume that they were a method for protecting it.
Both those groups can provide an argument so it really is non-partisan for him to stay netural
I knew a guy who worked with farmers. He said he couldn’t mention climate change or they would sorta poke fun at him and not take him seriously. So instead he started talking about the specific rain shortages and hotter temps than usual and they were completely in agreement because they see those things happening. You just have to know how to speak to people and you’ll realize we are usually on the same team at the end of it. We all want to survive, after all.
I've ridden the ferry from Port Angeles, WA to Victoria, BC (and back) many many times, and that's a RO-RO with no vehicle lashing that includes cars and trucks. Never even had a scary moment on that ship!
the coho is well maintained, but the biggest danger is freezing from how cold that cabin gets during sailing 😂😂
I've always been kind of fascinated by rail ferries. (I don't even know if they're still a thing.) I first learned that they existed reading about the Galveston hurricane of 1900.
Actually, yes, there are here in the US and around the world.
Still used between italy and sicily with passengers and to sardinia without passengers.
Hi! As such, you might want to check out the history of the Great Lakes car ferries that traversed Lake Michigan from late 19th century, up into the late 1970s/early 80s - back when that made logistical sense (as in rail cars, not vehicle - though they carried a small amount of passengers.) The rail lines operated their own fleets, and would be the only boats that ran year-round, on schedule - through the troublesome ice even, putting up with adverse conditions when other lake boats were laid-up for the season.
The museum ship, the SS City Of Milwaukee, located in Manistee, MI is a great example (visiting was my entry down this whole rabbit hole.) A handful of amateur walk-thru videos available on TH-cam too.
The TH-cam channel 'Railroad Street' has some well made videos on some of the disasters of (but also the history of) the lakes car ferries. The Benzie Area Historical Society & Museum TH-cam channel as well.
The SS Badger - amazingly still a coal-fired - is the only large roll on-roll off lake ferry left, but it is for road vehicles and passengers, not rail. Still, a nice way to cross Lake Michigan.
Hope you find them as fascinating.
There are rail ferries that operate in NYC
@@merhbass There have been some rather frightening losses on the Great Lakes when it comes to the car and rail car ships! It's really fascinating to learn about.
Ooh fancy new graphics!
You are doing awesome, the production quality has come a long way since stretch duck 7! 🎉 and that was a great video essay as well!
Seeing so many professionals work in concert to save the lives of those sailors is very uplifting. Thanks for the great video.
The tier of content this channel posts is insane. I’ve never found a more top quality TH-camr. Never stop doing what your doing friend.
I found your site when it was recommended through another video I was watching. One of the few times the algorithm led me to a very fascinating user. I've stuck around ever since and I'm glad I have. Take all the time you have to because I can see just how much work goes into what you do.
I was on vacation in that area shortly after this event occurred and remember being in awe seeing the ship laying on its side firsthand. Quite an amazing sight. The people and nature in that area will take many, many years to recover.
Thank God for all the rescue crews, every singe person who helped save all their lifes.
This kind of story 😢 really touches the souls.
Humanity is filled with good and together we can change the world for the betterment for all souls here in earth.
11:30 hey, the Galveston-Bolivar ferry! Every summer my family and I used spend a couple hours taking a round way trip just for the fun of it. We always parked and walked on, we never had to worry about it being part of our commute. It's been a few years since I've been, but for sure now I'm always paying attention to the safety briefings and what our options are in an emergency...
There have been so many Roro tragedies over the years, I was just reading about Sulpico Lines who lost the Dona Paz, Dona Marilyn, the Princess of the Orient, and the Princess of the Stars, and the Sulpico Express Siete collided with the St Thomas Aquinas causing it to sink, it took all these tragedies and the loss of thousands of people for the Philippines to finally take away Sulpico's license to carry passengers, I'd love for a deep dive about these tragedies. TH-cam might prioritize short form content but nothing gets me more excited than a long form video or series about maritime disasters
Your channel is what I point to when I want to show someone how to properly research for nonfiction content creation.
Your videos continue to increase in quality and depth with each new release. I can watch your content all day without getting tired of them. I’m absolutely fascinated by the subject of maritime history, especially disasters, and of the five or so channels I go to regularly for that type of content, yours is my absolute favorite. The quality and detail of your presentations is breathtaking, and better in my opinion than something a multi million dollar company like BBC or National Geographic would put out. You should definitely be very proud of yourself! And thank you for sharing your work with us.
Thank you so much for what you do! These are so interesting, and your research is obviously meticulously compiled and collated.
Honestly, I love your quality over quantity approach. Not only does it fit the most basic lessons to be learned from all the incidents you cover, it also means when you publish content, it's there to be savoured.
You always have my undivided attention Sam. Thank you for the work you do for us to enjoy.
You are one of the few TH-cam channels with content that’s well researched and well presented to a level equal to or better than mainstream television. Great work, thank you.
I really loved this. My Dad was an aviation engineer and I worked in the maritime industry briefly. I know there was a lot of technical detail but I am fascinated by that. All in all a very thorough and amazingly professional. Thank you.
Don't worry about getting too far 'into the weeds'. If we didn't want to get into the weeds, we wouldn't be watching this channel. 🙂 And, did I miss it, or was there no mention in the NTSB report about the open Pilot's Door?
I agree, off in the weeds is where the most interesting points are made
I remember watching WJXT 4 out of Jacksonville cover this.
They are famous for filming a widow from the sinking of El Faro coming out to view the salvage of the Golden Ray.
She was reflecting during a short interview.
These small moments of connectivity to things that seem so distant resonate to me.
Now, here we are. The Unniverse has brought us all together, two seemingly unrelated ships.
A content creator and us adoring fans.
Thank you for sharing, take care
As a Director of Freight Claims in the Logistics Industry I applaud your efforts with these videos sir. They’re fantastically informative and the dedication to detail is outstanding. It tends to turn out more negatively with these type of accidents pertaining to loss of life. Happy to hear they all got out safely. People in key positions have to understand how vital their abilities to do their job is and that other’s lives depend on it.
I can only imagine the salvage process was a nightmare for this situation. Everyone involved has a responsibility to salvage the freight and this was bound to end in many lawsuits. Great job and I look forward to enjoying more of your work!
I am eagerly awaiting the arrival of this video.
Hi! I'm so happy to be one of the first to watch this video you worked so hard on. These videos are amazing quality and the research is top notch!
I've completely gone down the maritime rabbit hole thanks to your outstanding BI videos.
I'm a nuclear energy worker and former stevedore during summers back in highschool (1990's) and find your detailed yet simple to understand content fantastic.
Edit - i am absolutely astounded at the lax policy and procedural adherence in the martime shipping industry. There's literally no excuse for it. The airline industry thankfully does a much better job.
Bump for the algorithm!
It's nice to see that the efforts of the first responders, especially the tug boat crews, saved every on board without life threatening injuries. They are the unsung heroes of this event. The ship and cargo were lost but no lives were lost.
I’m very excited about the next one here. Thanks for putting out these videos Brick!
Thanks, Sam. Great episode. Well worth the wait x
This is very reminiscent of the zebruger ferry disaster . Great content. Love the channel
well I'm hooked. brilliantly researched, scripted, produced, and at times deeply emotionally moving.
Extremely high quality videos , it's always a jot seeing a Brick Immortar upload
Thank you so much Sam! Quality over quantity is what makes your content so special to many of us. You make us maritimers so proud and thankful for your effort - we love to share your content with our friends and family not familiar with the industry - and we are extremely grateful for the dignity, honor and memory you give to those of us lost at sea.
Your safety matters!
Mark Wiggins
American Bureau of Shipping
Massachusetts Maritime Academy class of 2019
I think you are now my favorite disaster TH-camr and this is probably my favorite video from you. So much detail about marine shipping that I had no idea I wanted to know. Honestly I could just watch hours of logistics information without any big disaster attached to it.
We shipped our 1949 VW Beetle from Düsseldorf in late 2021 to Miami - a voyage that took an astonishing 5 months. We were keenly aware of automotive transport catastrophes during this time so your video helps put a face on our fears.
From a former 1st officer (and 2nd Engineer) on RoRo vessels: Great video!
I always look forward to a Brick Immortar video. I personally don't care that there is a lot of time between them. They are so well researched and presented I'm glued to the screen.
as someone who has a deep love for long form, well researched, and passionate TH-cam content, I feel as though the algorithm is improving (finally). I hope this means you'll get better exposure to people like me who appreciate your thorough nature and expertise.
Your channel puts the "mainstream" stuff we see from the big networks to shame. This doesn't even feel like a TH-cam channel. It's so professionally visualized and narrated. All of them. Thanks for another great video. On another note - do some people seriously sit in their cars while on a roro? Utter madness.
Amazing work as always. I would have loved our rotary wing aviation mishap case study debriefs to be half this detailed. Such a great format for teaching lessons learned.
Nothing truly brings me greater joy than finishing my degree on a random Monday night, and then pausing and reading all about metacentric height, which I have never heard of but is infinitely interesting, for a good 20 minutes. Thank you BrickImmortar!
Im from mid/south Georgia and we went down Jekyll Island the next summer or two and saw the ship grounded off the north side of the island.. its crazy how long it took them to cut the ship up and get it moved!!!
This is, by far, without a shred of doubt, the most thorough and still absolutely captivating 'preventable disaster' channel I've ever come across. Because almost everything I've seen done on this channel is absolutely preventable. In spite of the dark events being reported on, the incredible accuracy, attention to detail, and sincere regard to the lives lost are all components that are sorely missing from most of TH-cam. I sincerely appreciate this channel, and the many, many hours of dedication to each documentary (because these are absolutely better than any of the sensationalized BS on Netflix or others these days). That dedication and sensitivity shines through every episode and I'm very grateful to have a source of information on these matters that I KNOW I can trust. Thank you.
Excellent documentary as usual, sir. Thank you for your hard work gathering all of this information.
So glad that no one perished in this incident, unlike so many other shipwrecks.
I remember reading about this when it was happening. The way they saw the boat into pieces seems ingenious to me and a method I had no clue existed. Great content, I always enjoy seeing another one of your videos pop up.
Couldn't take the tension - went to wiki to find out weather someone died. Back now to happily enjoy the rest ;DDD
How wonderful YT bell notifications are. I've watched this premier from start to finish and YT still hasn't alerted me to this new release is up and happening! Sigh..
My university thesis in Maritime Operations back in the early 2000s was on roro safety (mainly ferry related - Townsend Thoresen's 'Herald of Free Enterprise ' and Estline's "Estonia" so I really enjoyed this.
I actually worked on these when I was at university (Southampton) driving new cars off of PCCs.
I then spent some time as a Ships Agent and managed vessels' port operations (usually PCCs) for Mitsui OSK. I have been on board some of their ACE vessels, a number of which have long since been scrapped, one in particular I remember was Acacia Ace.
Cool
I'm currently working in a port of Germany driving cars on and off car carrier ships. It's quite a nice and relaxing job to drive all these nice new cars everyday.
Given how much RORO vessels have been in the news lately, I have to admit that the entire vessel class and auto shipping industry has been given a black eye.
As a logistics student, I welcome the escape into the weeds!!! Thank you for all you do. I hope that one day I will be able to offer more support to this incredible channel.
My uncle was one of the fisherman involved with the Valdez, it makes one hundred percent that its gonna take forever for the litigation of the boat to get sorted.