First video ive found that slows down to explain the "why" of the strategy in a way that clicks for me. Great format. Appreciate the sunmaries as well.
Great to hear it was something different than what you were finding. I will keep trying to explain the WHY's when i do these. Appreciate the comment and the watch!
Really enjoyed the video and was explained well while made simple to understand. Only suggestion I have is possibly showing what the what final lists looks like after the changes just incase players have already made their own changes and need to undo them before trying your list. Great video overall and cant wait to see what other budget lists you might share.
Interesting video. I may have missed it, but did you outline which cards you removed? A list of what you added compared to what you removed would be cool.
This is some great content. As a new player, the way you explain things is so helpful. Earned my subscription and I'm looking forward to more fun decks!
can you like put a total list of the cards in the deck after listing what you add? this is harder to follow for people who have already deviated from the list before making their way to this video
I’m a little confused with how to use motti properly (at 2:20) you state you can attack with Vader and re ready him if you choose to take out motti, but doesn’t vadars “on attack” damage of 2 happen before his combat damage ? Meaning if you took out motti with the 2damage you’d have to ready another unit because vadar doesn’t exhaust yet until after he deals his main combat damage ?
@@juanbonilla1006 I think so, so you “tap” or turn Vader to use his attack, deal his on attack of 2 go take out motti Re ready Vader but continue to finish issuing the damage from Vader as well
I thought ON ATTACK effects trigger before the attack resolves? So the combo you mention with Vader and Motti is incorrect I think. Some cards specifically say after this unit attacks.
I may have mispoke but the Vader Motti trigger goes - Exhaust Vader to attack, trigger his on attack ability to kill Motti, Ready Vader and complete the damage step of the attack. Thus allowing you to attack with Vader a second time.
@@UnlimitedPowerSWUnice! With both decks upgraded to the maxed version you have. Do you think they will be a fair battle vs each other? Gonna use these to try and get my mtg group to play. But they definitely won’t play pre cons lol
Thats to be expected early on, sometimes it can be discouraging though as some decks need the side board to be be competitive with others. As some decks will always lose without certain cards
Question regarding overwhelming barrage: in your example can Vader deal the damage also if he’s exhausted? Yes or. He can’t attack because he’s exhausted that’s for but it just damage not attack damage. Am I right or wrong. And if I’m wrong could you refer to the rule topic. I’ve tried to find it and didn’t. Thanks man.
Overwhelming Barrage doesn't care if the unit is readied or exhausted. I'd recommend using it on a readied unit though so you can still make use of the +2/+2 while attacking with the unit.
with this style you want to play smaller black aspect cards every turn unless you have a ramp option. Keep using his ability to keep shields from getting crazy and be willing to trade with units early on to prevent them from future shields. Your sideboard can also hold more sabatour units to remove shields Turn 1 play a 1 drop use vaders a bility to ping a shield turn 2 ressupply or a 2 drop black aspect unit trigger vaders ability turn 3 Laser tech and black aspect unit
Not useable in sealed play. Pre release was the only way to use them , but you can construct decks with them for constructed decks like premier and twin suns
Good question . It does not. It’s my favorite card in the set for many reasons and that’s one of them. 5 resources to deal 7 damage with Vader is so fun. And if you have his lightsaber equipped , well , you’ll see .
Thats correct, it can easily be a sideboard depending on your match up, Most of these cards are better for earlier plays to keep the pressure on your opponent by the time you get to 7 resources you need to ensure your vader leader swings into the base. Most of the cards ensure the board is empty enough to make it happen without too many problems. If your opponent is going wide with units I would play the unit vader to ambush the biggest unit and hopefully bring in a storm trooper lietuenant to increase the damage portion of unit vader or another force user.
Both now posted in the description to copy and paste into ur browser. TH-cam is a little weird on links for accounts with my number of subs. Appreciate you asking for them though
Thats correct, it can easily be a sideboard depending on your match up, Most of these cards are better for earlier plays to keep the pressure on your opponent by the time you get to 7 resources you need to ensure your vader leader swings into the base. Most of the cards ensure the board is empty enough to make it happen without too many problems. If your opponent is going wide with units I would play the unit vader to ambush the biggest unit and hopefully bring in a storm trooper lieutenant to increase the damage portion of unit vader or another force user. Not play unit vader also keeps you on curve with these cards
First video ive found that slows down to explain the "why" of the strategy in a way that clicks for me. Great format. Appreciate the sunmaries as well.
Great to hear it was something different than what you were finding. I will keep trying to explain the WHY's when i do these. Appreciate the comment and the watch!
Awesome. Looking forward to the Luke upgrade video!
Same!
Really enjoyed the video and was explained well while made simple to understand. Only suggestion I have is possibly showing what the what final lists looks like after the changes just incase players have already made their own changes and need to undo them before trying your list. Great video overall and cant wait to see what other budget lists you might share.
The starter decks do have a deck list on the back of the base cards, just in case you haven't seen it.
Very intresting.
I just started 2 days ago and had 2 games. I will try to build my deck like u said
thank you for the deck suggestions on budget upgrades!
Happy to do it, Hope it keeps it fun for ya!
Great explanations, especially the "why". Excellent job!
Interesting video. I may have missed it, but did you outline which cards you removed? A list of what you added compared to what you removed would be cool.
This is some great content. As a new player, the way you explain things is so helpful. Earned my subscription and I'm looking forward to more fun decks!
Great video! Can you please post a link for the full deck? Thanks in advance!
Thanks for doing this video! I've been looking for something like this.
No problem. Thanks for watching!
Really good video bro , i just started the game today and bought my starters. Your video helped a lot!
Glad I could help, I will continue making these for the next starters in set 2
Keep it up! I really like the way you explain things
Greatly appreciate these upgrade vids.
No problem, happy to get stuff out that I would be looking for as a player
Thank you very much, this videos makes me re-build my vader's deck. I'm anxious to try it!
can you like put a total list of the cards in the deck after listing what you add? this is harder to follow for people who have already deviated from the list before making their way to this video
This was very well structured and informative.
I’m a little confused with how to use motti properly (at 2:20) you state you can attack with Vader and re ready him if you choose to take out motti, but doesn’t vadars “on attack” damage of 2 happen before his combat damage ? Meaning if you took out motti with the 2damage you’d have to ready another unit because vadar doesn’t exhaust yet until after he deals his main combat damage ?
Did you figure this out?
@@juanbonilla1006 I think so, so you “tap” or turn Vader to use his attack, deal his on attack of 2 go take out motti
Re ready Vader but continue to finish issuing the damage from Vader as well
Great explanation, really appreciate it!
Thanks. I am glad you find it helpful
Very nice! Clear, concise.
I thought ON ATTACK effects trigger before the attack resolves? So the combo you mention with Vader and Motti is incorrect I think. Some cards specifically say after this unit attacks.
I may have mispoke but the Vader Motti trigger goes - Exhaust Vader to attack, trigger his on attack ability to kill Motti, Ready Vader and complete the damage step of the attack. Thus allowing you to attack with Vader a second time.
Thanks for that clarification. Exhausting happens first then. Good to know 👍
I love this game
Appreciate the video. Thanks!
No problem, I am glad you enjoyed it
Great video. Enjoyed the info!
Very well done!
Awesome video! How would you upgrade the deck with the new set coming out?
Thanks again. Hopefully you have seen the recent vader upgrade video tackling that question
Can you recommend a great 10 card sideboard for the master deck? (But maybe include 2 extra cards as alternates because I only have 1 Vader unit :P )
Great video! What do you think about including the Vader green unit here?
Do you have a video for the other starter deck? I would love to fully upgrade both starter decks.
Coming out Thursday 3/14 closer to the end of the day
@@UnlimitedPowerSWUnice! With both decks upgraded to the maxed version you have. Do you think they will be a fair battle vs each other? Gonna use these to try and get my mtg group to play. But they definitely won’t play pre cons lol
@@UnlimitedPowerSWUlooking forward to the Luke analysis!
Sideboard is interesting, my local does best of 1 so its not really applicable so far!
Thats to be expected early on, sometimes it can be discouraging though as some decks need the side board to be be competitive with others. As some decks will always lose without certain cards
Mastervader.... say what...
After the fix I ended up with 39 card deck I thought the min was 50
But what's with the Green Vader legendary?
Question regarding overwhelming barrage: in your example can Vader deal the damage also if he’s exhausted? Yes or. He can’t attack because he’s exhausted that’s for but it just damage not attack damage. Am I right or wrong. And if I’m wrong could you refer to the rule topic. I’ve tried to find it and didn’t. Thanks man.
Overwhelming Barrage doesn't care if the unit is readied or exhausted. I'd recommend using it on a readied unit though so you can still make use of the +2/+2 while attacking with the unit.
Thx :)
What does the Vader deck bring against the many shields when you play against Luke?
with this style you want to play smaller black aspect cards every turn unless you have a ramp option. Keep using his ability to keep shields from getting crazy and be willing to trade with units early on to prevent them from future shields.
Your sideboard can also hold more sabatour units to remove shields
Turn 1
play a 1 drop use vaders a bility to ping a shield
turn 2
ressupply or a 2 drop black aspect unit trigger vaders ability
turn 3
Laser tech and black aspect unit
@@UnlimitedPowerSWU What is a Ramp Option?
@@AliasTH-cam80 Resupply is good turn 2, and 4
Superlaser tech is good turn 3 and further
Didn't they say this Vader and the Luke that comes in the same starter aren't usable in standard play?
Not useable in sealed play. Pre release was the only way to use them , but you can construct decks with them for constructed decks like premier and twin suns
Does Overwhelming Barrage exhaust the unit that deals the damage? 🤔
Nope
Good question . It does not. It’s my favorite card in the set for many reasons and that’s one of them. 5 resources to deal 7 damage with Vader is so fun. And if you have his lightsaber equipped , well , you’ll see .
Does “play” include attack actions or just playing a card from your hand?
Just playing a card from your hand.
Can you use Vader’s ability while he’s already flipped up as a unit?
no
How about Vader unit?
The master list with no green Vader?
Thats correct, it can easily be a sideboard depending on your match up, Most of these cards are better for earlier plays to keep the pressure on your opponent by the time you get to 7 resources you need to ensure your vader leader swings into the base. Most of the cards ensure the board is empty enough to make it happen without too many problems. If your opponent is going wide with units I would play the unit vader to ambush the biggest unit and hopefully bring in a storm trooper lietuenant to increase the damage portion of unit vader or another force user.
Did he post the SWUDB deck codes anywhere?
Both now posted in the description to copy and paste into ur browser. TH-cam is a little weird on links for accounts with my number of subs. Appreciate you asking for them though
Why not play the legendary Vader in the non budget deck?
Thats correct, it can easily be a sideboard depending on your match up, Most of these cards are better for earlier plays to keep the pressure on your opponent by the time you get to 7 resources you need to ensure your vader leader swings into the base. Most of the cards ensure the board is empty enough to make it happen without too many problems. If your opponent is going wide with units I would play the unit vader to ambush the biggest unit and hopefully bring in a storm trooper lieutenant to increase the damage portion of unit vader or another force user. Not play unit vader also keeps you on curve with these cards
I thought you cannot play Luke or Vader after prerelease?
They can be played in constructed , but in limited formats like sealed or draft you won’t be able to play them.
@@UnlimitedPowerSWU ahhh got ya that makes more sense. Thanks for the clarification!
Would I be able to add a Darth Vader 087 to this deck? If so what should I swap out?