That was a fantastic England team in the early noughties and with that performance and the six nations in 2003 and summer tour down under the same year you can see why they won the world cup in Australia later on. The best England team i have seen in that era. A team of winners.
As a neighbouring Welshman, England were a brick wall of a team back then, super fit and packed with talent. No one cpuld cope with that English pack back in the day. Jason Robinson was an absolute dynamite of a runner. Two of the strongest in the world battling it out during the time. RIP Jonah, the great man left us far too soon :(
@James Leatherbarrow 2003 England were way out in front, not so sure about 2002. This match is in my top 4 of painful losses - along with 2003, 2019 RWC, 2022 (a draw after leading by 19 points is a loss). It was a great match, England deserved it, but we’ll never know what might have been if the ABs had put out a full strength team.
It's a shame all the toxicity in the comments from all sides (including supporters of other teams not involved in this game) I'm an All Black supporter but this was a great England team and I can't do anything but respect their play. Great game by Australia last week as well.
@@jldp24 What a crap of justification! Always the same when England beat one of their big rivals in the sport. Though not a "pom", I think we all friends of Rugby have had enough of this shit! A plead to stop with that, coming from Greece.
Definitely ! As our PE teacher regularly used to prove by playing for the “inferior” side - and as I was always scrum half or on the wing and was the only one who would try and tackle anyone (it was a state comp and football DOMINATED) then I was left with the unenviable task of tackling Mr Clark or Mr Richards. Thanks guys .!
@@davidg9501 Just a bit of payback for all the dirty NZ play. Nowadays players aren't getting away with it and the amount of yellow and red cards in recent NZ history shows this. Almost a level playing field.
Joe Bish payback? interesting comment. we can all come up with as many regrettable incidences as one another. The way i look at it as a loyal Kiwi, is to look back to the humble beginnings of the All Blacks and their successful goal in showcasing our tiny nation at the bottom of the globe, bringing NZ to to the world through sportsmanship, their mantra was always humility, camaraderie and respect, that was our forefathers and who we should be emulating. Apologies for so called fans who beat their chests, brag and belittle our opponents on social media, most of those are unlikely from NZ as the All Blacks also have huge followings all over the world who don’t seem to care about representing us, our history in the world or about being humble.
I am a Welsh man who has lost all confidence in our National game since it went "Regional" in 2003. I now support the democratic ( for now) club based system in England and long may it continue!
Times have changed and not necessarily for the better! Great and perfectly legal tackle by Cohen on Blair, going for the line, late in the game. That try-saving tackle would be considered illegal by today's ponce standards.
Trevor Woodman, what a player. bobhid I agree. Whenever they lose it's either the beginning of their season or the end or they're all ill. Try and lose with grace.
I always wondered why England always played a 2 match Test series against the All Blacks and not a 3 match series or even a 5 match series like everyone else and yet to win a test series in between the one off games. 118 yrs with 8 wins averaged out a win every 15 years since 1905. maybe to help keep the stats down, France are the best NH team to have faced the All Blacks and have won 13 games 48 loses & 4 draws
man this was just fantastic to watch! Gawwddd i miss these days where england ruled supreme :D thanks so much hike6ones your videos are epiccc and so long!!!!!!
Cohen's match-saving tackle would be a penalty try these days... this match was a thriller, watched it in the Raisin pub in St Andrews which was always a fantastic venue for autumn internationals. Happy days.
He was definitely solid. I still think Leonard, Cotton, and later, Sheridan and Corbisiero were better. Corbs was one of the best scrummagers I saw in recent times
It's a good job it wasn't lomu on the end of that final passage of play don't think Ben Cohen would of stopped him but we'll done to the English players for a win against a top notch side with big jonah legend RIP God bless his soul
England never worked out how to neutralise Lomu, right until his final test: but, by a narrow squeak, they were finally able to beat him. Playing some brilliant rugby on the way.
They didn’t need to neutralise him. They knew the areas where they were stronger and where they could exploit NZ, which they did. The could easily have stuck Ben Cohen on the opposite wing, but what would be the point? Many teams focused on stopping Lomu and then had their pants pulled down by the rest of the All Blacks’ team.
@TheForge10: I agree that historically that New Zealand are top dogs but for a short while back then England had your number and were worthy world champions and the world's No.1 team. If you can't accept that obvious reality, when we took you in the rain with 13 men on the field in your own back yard, and Australia likewise before defeating them in the final on their patch, then you are a small man and need to grow up! Tme Celtic & New World nations showed more maturity & gave credit where due.
@@Crusadersix6 ~ We all know the #rugby world rankings system does not always necessarily precisely reflect the reality. Generally, though, it is pretty accurate. I can only suggest you re-read my comment, and specifically the final sentence! . A year or two ago, #Ireland briefly became number one in the rankings, having defeated the #AllBlacks twice in a year. Fact. Some were dubious as to whether they deserved the accolade, but you can only do what you can do; you can only beat who is in front of you. . #England defeated #NewZealand in their own back yard in mid-2003. They then crossed the Tasman and defeated #Australia in their back yard too. Five months later England went and won the #WorldCup - on Australian soil. The facts are clear and unassailable. England's period of dominance in the year or two leading up to and including the 2003 World Cup was self-evident. It didn't last long thereafter as some members of the squad called it a day, though for all that England still subsequently made the World Cup final - against victorious #SouthAfrica this time - in 2007, much to my surprise and that of many of my compatriots, I might add. . So quite clearly, for a time at least - and a bloody sight longer than two days! - England were the number one rugby union team in the world. Any fair-minded person knows that. It was all a long time ago and - what with this horrendous Coronavirus Covid-19 disease sweeping the globe in 2020 - in the great scheme of things it is of little importance. Nonetheless, facts are facts, and those who love to crow (even if they have plenty of justification) should try to find some humility within themselves and have the good grace to acknowledge other's achievements, however scant or fleeting they may be. To do otherwise is incredibly ugly and unworthy of respect. I find it distasteful to even have to discuss this. I did not question Ireland's right to their number one ranking. I have never contested NZ's numerous and well deserved number one rankings, nor those of other nations like Australia or the Boks when they have experienced periods of dominance. I have always said that northern hemisphere nations are only as good as they can be when judged against the southern hemi's rugby giants. Well, for a while in the early noughties, England were. As utterly dominating in all aspects as England were in their semi-final demolition of #NZ in the 2019 World Cup in #Japan (to the surprise of virtually everybody, including me) in a match in which the #Kiwis were gifted the only points they managed to score due to a very poor throw-in by an otherwise rampant England at their own lineout, and during which one of England's two other disallowed tries should really have stood (when, with forward passes aplenty, did officials decide to zoom a camera into the depths of a maul like that and come to such a conclusion?) I came across no Englishman who felt we should have won the final. Despite the hugely damaging freak injury to our prop a couple of minutes in, on the day South Africa were simply too strong and well-drilled, and with plenty of skill in the bag too, as they showed when they cut loose late on. So hearty congratulations to South Africa. Best team in the world as of now. A fully deserved victory! . Frankly, I find it piss-poor that certain people - I mean you specifically #GaryDowd - are incapable, it seems, of similar largesse. Such miserly dishonesty and childish churlishness speaks volumes about such people as human beings and will inevitably manifest itself in other facets of life. It is certainly a manifestation of 'little man syndrome'. I'll leave it to others whether they think it is redolent of 'little country syndrome' too, though personally as a big fan of New Zealand as a country and of their rugby folklore I think it is unfair to tar others with the same brush. Basically, people like Gary Dowd are the dregs of humanity. The lowest of the low. The truth is that every nation has such idiots. Every nation has to suffer its own fools. Mercifully, though, they are the minority. I find solace in the firm belief, based on personal experience, that most people are so much better than that!
@@123tgw You do realise that game was almost 20 years ago. Day in Day out England's body of work has been mediocre at best over the decades. You had a couple of brief times in the sun, nothing to really crow about though. Remember a broken clock is right twice a day. The AB's historically in comparison have a body of work (over a 130 years) that no other sporting team on earth has achieved. That is a 82% win/loss ratio. BTW The All Blacks have played England in 7 Test Series (Since 1963) comprised of 15 games. NZ have won 14 games drawn 1 and lost 0. Really an annihilation don't you think?
@@Crusadersix6 ~God you're thick #GaryDowd! Have I denied any of that? You're a terrible 'ambassador' for #NewZealand & the #AllBlacks. You're an embarrassment to #NZ #rugby & humanity. Now piss off!
@@Crusadersix6 Don't be so bloody cocky, you big-headed prick. Think yourself lucky we English taught you how to play the bloody game, and all the others, by the way.
I remember there being a public outcry in NZ that Ben Blair was picked ahead of Cullen. Blair didn't have a good game and he stuffed up that last play down the sideline by not stepping inside, had it been Cully, he would have stepped inside and scored the match winner. How good was Lomu!?! and Marty Holah too, He was unfortunate to have played the same time McCaw came onto the scene.
GREAT GAME and some great moments. I just like that at the end of the game after knocking spots of f each other - they are great sportmen and great gentlemen. I like the fact that this sport is so violent adn competitive but no real trash talk, just get on with it and respect after the game - it goes all the way dow to club leevel - even if the ref has a mare they take it on the chin and give him a bit or gentle ribbing and banter after the game in the bar. I was at a low level eearl season competitive match with 6 teams playing and just a good biut of bant and respect by amateurs from builders to bankers, teachers to techniciian, it is all about the love of the game
I'm Welsh and it es good to see some class rugby by England yesterday. The best bit is reading the comments from before yesterday's game. All the cocky NZ ers going mental. Bet all of them were crying yesterday, wish I'd seen their faces
Amazing how much the game has changed since then. The defences and rucking are so much more precise. This England side wasn't the best to watch but they were very effective. After they won the w.c every side began to copy their preparation and conditioning and suddenly England were struggling.
Lots of one hit wonders in this side that should have beaten England. Sam Broomhall , Keith Lowan , Ben Blair , Steve Devine , Joe McDonnell. All never seen again in an All Black jersey. Mehrtens was dropped the very next year.Lomu got ill and was never seen again in an AB jersey.
Whenever England are crap I always come back to the autumn internationals of 2002 and the 2003 six nations and world cup and I feel better. The best England team ever.
From a froggy, I have to say that a match England vs NZ is something pretty spectacular. I'd say that England is probably the best team of Europe, for the reason that France has no constance !
it was interesting hearing how New Zealandera were sick of lomu's form during the clip. As a kiwi i was always bemused by my fellow countrymans reactions to Jonah sometimes. he was gushed over internationally but we always panned him alot of the time. I would rather have Lomu in my team or not.Form or no form.
Especially when he was playing with a life threatening decease & unwell. It seemed we loved him more than the Kiwis. Even though we in NH were the recipients of his bumps or being run over and tries. I was rather shocked at his funeral? The stadium.wasnt full?
It is fun looking at this game some 17.5 years later. First NZ try would now not be given, second NZ try would be called back for a tip tackle, Eng first try might have led to a NZ yellow card, NZ attack on 78 mins stopped by a seat belt tackle - penalty try and a yellow card. Other thoughts: scrum halves passed the ball much quicker then than now, Woodman had a stunning game and the Chris Ashton "Ash splash" was copied from Ben Cohen!
Not sure about that, NZ's first try would probably be given on the grounds there was 'no separation' between the player and ball, it would count now just as it counted then
Ali Williams and Andrew Hore playing their first test! No Marshal or Kelleher at half-back, and the centurians, Muliaina and McCaw weren't even on the team sheet! Wow, how the All Blacks have changed in 10 years
Good days...better when more teams are stronger....even if one of them is England....great stadium and fans ..just a shame about the rugby they play most of the time
@Patrick Bourke I agree. But we know we're no good and we don't cry about it. We're not arrogant enough to think we have the right to win every game. And we're not cheaters. Happy to support wales whether they win or lose. Must suck to support a dirty side. But each to their own. Just gotta commend england for out classing you on every level :)
Six Nations and World Cup thats all that matters. Southern Hemishere would be Tri Nations World Cup; beating New Zealand in the Autumn of 2012 does not mean much when the World Cup is still 3 years away.
Well i would have loved to have seen the England team of 2000-2001 play the All Blacks in those years. They drew a series in South Africa that they dominated and should have won both in 2000 and both the boks and blacks were no great shakes in those years.....
JW did not have a particularly good game. For once! Best players for England Woodman and Thompson. Food for thought. At the final whistle we are reminded that this was only the 5th time we had beaten NZ. At this time France had beaten them 4 times. In New Zealand.
Great England! As for the ABs, their 1st try was not a try, for Lomu had lost control of the ball and their dangerous foul playing with high tackles and knees on heads and diving into mauls and coming from off sides e.t.c was constant during the game... Unacceptable, even for that period of the game being much more tolerant to dangerous play!... Disgusting one sided ref!... Thus, Great England!!! Greetings from a Greek friend of Rugby.
YOu don't need to have 'control' of the ball when grounding. This is a persistent myth created by match officials who talk about downward pressure, control, etc, some of whom don't seem to know the rules of the game based on the way they describe the process! Just contact is necessary in that situation.
I'll freely admit England were miles ahead as the best team in world rugby 2002-2003. They would have beaten the All Blacks in the 2003 RWC final if the AB's had somehow overcome Australia. If anything England played better before the RWC, they tended to go back into their shell at the tournament, a pity, as they had some great attacking play in the 2002 games against NZ, Aus and SA.
dogmatix asterix The 2003 RWC was "difficult" somehow and we definitely didn't play at our best. That was disappointing as we really had played some brilliant stuff from about late 2000 - mid-2003. I'll still take it though!
New Zealand's national sport: Rugby England's national sport: Football New Zealand's win % versus England in Rugby: 77.78% England's win % versus New Zealand in Football: 100 % Anything else you need to know?
Aren't statistics wonderful? New Zealand total rugby winning percentage 82% England total football winning percentage 57% New Zealand rugby world cup winners 3 England football world cup winners 1 New Zealand 2010 Football World Cup goals scored 2 England 2010 Football World Cup goals scored 2 England rugby registered players (senior male bracketed) 1,990,988 (131,399) New Zealand rugby registered players (senior male bracketed) 146,893 (27,726) England football players total (male bracketed) 4,164,110 (3,829,000) New Zealand football players total (male bracketed) 198,757 (164,667) New Zealand Sporting codes by active participation in last 12 months. Golf 500,000 Tennis 317,500 Touch rugby 260100 Cricket 223,700 Football 198,757 Basketball 166,800 Rugby 146,893 Netball 140,000 Rugby is hardly NZ's national sport. Anything else you need to know?
I am not going to participate in your argument and I am not either English or Kiwi But you saying rugby is hardly NZ's national sport is a total BULLSHIT. If you are a kiwi then I further cannot believe you. Every source have explicitly stated that rugby is the De Facto national sport in New Zealand. As an asian who is studying in New Zealand right now, RUGBY is considered as your national identity. Everything on the news and media is always talking about rugby or the all blacks. I understand that you are trying to prove that kiwis are athletically gifted which I do really understand. But if you are a real kiwi, dont deny that rugby is hardly a NATIONAL or POPULAR sport. If it is not popular, why do the country give so much shit when they lose?
Ahahaha I am so done here. By participation rugby is hardly the most played sport. I agree with that. But to claim rugby is not your national sport is very absurd. I do not want to pick a fight or anything but I am just so intrigued that a kiwi like you state otherwise. All my mates here have told me that rugby is the most popular or so called national sport in new zealand. Out of all the sports it have the most spectators, largest T.V viewership and the most money spent from schoolboy level to professional. I am fully aware that kiwis are naturally athletically gifted. But if the sport is not popular, why are they the best out of all teams? And dont call me a Muppet. No reason to do that.
That was a fantastic England team in the early noughties and with that performance and the six nations in 2003 and summer tour down under the same year you can see why they won the world cup in Australia later on. The best England team i have seen in that era. A team of winners.
As a neighbouring Welshman, England were a brick wall of a team back then, super fit and packed with talent. No one cpuld cope with that English pack back in the day. Jason Robinson was an absolute dynamite of a runner. Two of the strongest in the world battling it out during the time.
RIP Jonah, the great man left us far too soon :(
This was an experimental B team that England played against with many senior AB players left out.
@James Leatherbarrow 2003 England were way out in front, not so sure about 2002. This match is in my top 4 of painful losses - along with 2003, 2019 RWC, 2022 (a draw after leading by 19 points is a loss). It was a great match, England deserved it, but we’ll never know what might have been if the ABs had put out a full strength team.
@James Leatherbarrow The same thing could be said for the 2022 match. England’s reserves ran circles around the ABs and should have started.
@@steveandreassend8620 Experimental?? You, my friend, should stick to football as it is obvious that you know nothing about rugby union!
I am french and Wilkinson during this year play in an other planet, some respect for the genius
It's a shame all the toxicity in the comments from all sides (including supporters of other teams not involved in this game) I'm an All Black supporter but this was a great England team and I can't do anything but respect their play. Great game by Australia last week as well.
Shut up..this was the end of an era for alot of ab players and this was essentially a B team as well.
@@jldp24 I think you're what he meant by "toxicity." How DARE an All Blacks fan be gracious in defeat!
@@jldp24 What a crap of justification! Always the same when England beat one of their big rivals in the sport. Though not a "pom", I think we all friends of Rugby have had enough of this shit! A plead to stop with that, coming from Greece.
@@eliaskotzakidis8773 calm down Zorba
@@jldp24 Rubbish. If you can't make more sensible comments than this, I'd suggest you don't post. Then you won't look a fool.
This Jomu Lomu was surely a POWER HOUSE. An ICON in his day !!👍You are a good man !!
even though we lost this game i really enjoyed it. a good mix of old and new players... and mehrtens is all class. england played well too.
i'm an all black supporter and this is one of my favourite test matches. great skill on display from both sides.
Lomu is amazing lets be fair. It is like two u12 school sides playing with one team having their sports teacher on the wing
Definitely ! As our PE teacher regularly used to prove by playing for the “inferior” side - and as I was always scrum half or on the wing and was the only one who would try and tackle anyone (it was a state comp and football DOMINATED) then I was left with the unenviable task of tackling Mr Clark or Mr Richards. Thanks guys .!
Truly a great game. The gameplay was so much better back then
Also, when Moody scores look at the knees in the head. They always do it.
+Stephen Reeds David Rees got the same treatment scoring in the corner in 1997.
They always get away with it too.
Look at the England #11's shot to the head of the NZ #8 at 21:27, then quit your whinging, Poms.
@@davidg9501 Just a bit of payback for all the dirty NZ play. Nowadays players aren't getting away with it and the amount of yellow and red cards in recent NZ history shows this. Almost a level playing field.
Joe Bish payback? interesting comment. we can all come up with as many regrettable incidences as one another. The way i look at it as a loyal Kiwi, is to look back to the humble beginnings of the All Blacks and their successful goal in showcasing our tiny nation at the bottom of the globe, bringing NZ to to the world through sportsmanship, their mantra was always humility, camaraderie and respect, that was our forefathers and who we should be emulating. Apologies for so called fans who beat their chests, brag and belittle our opponents on social media, most of those are unlikely from NZ as the All Blacks also have huge followings all over the world who don’t seem to care about representing us, our history in the world or about being humble.
I am a Welsh man who has lost all confidence in our National game since it went "Regional" in 2003. I now support the democratic ( for now) club based system in England and long may it continue!
Times have changed and not necessarily for the better! Great and perfectly legal tackle by Cohen on Blair, going for the line, late in the game. That try-saving tackle would be considered illegal by today's ponce standards.
Trevor Woodman, what a player. bobhid I agree. Whenever they lose it's either the beginning of their season or the end or they're all ill. Try and lose with grace.
I always wondered why England always played a 2 match Test series against the All Blacks and not a 3 match series or even a 5 match series like everyone else and yet to win a test series in between the one off games. 118 yrs with 8 wins averaged out a win every 15 years since 1905. maybe to help keep the stats down, France are the best NH team to have faced the All Blacks and have won 13 games 48 loses & 4 draws
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man this was just fantastic to watch! Gawwddd i miss these days where england ruled supreme :D
thanks so much hike6ones your videos are epiccc and so long!!!!!!
Great match, great highlights. Thank you!
Cohen's match-saving tackle would be a penalty try these days... this match was a thriller, watched it in the Raisin pub in St Andrews which was always a fantastic venue for autumn internationals. Happy days.
I was next to Wilkinson at a urinal. He actually used the same stance. I told him to forget the run up.
That’s funny. 😂
Trever Woodman was onbe of the best props England ever had. Oustanding.
He was definitely solid. I still think Leonard, Cotton, and later, Sheridan and Corbisiero were better. Corbs was one of the best scrummagers I saw in recent times
It's a good job it wasn't lomu on the end of that final passage of play don't think Ben Cohen would of stopped him but we'll done to the English players for a win against a top notch side with big jonah legend RIP God bless his soul
Nice to see Jonah again - what a player. Hill and Woodman could really shift.
England never worked out how to neutralise Lomu, right until his final test: but, by a narrow squeak, they were finally able to beat him. Playing some brilliant rugby on the way.
They didn’t need to neutralise him. They knew the areas where they were stronger and where they could exploit NZ, which they did. The could easily have stuck Ben Cohen on the opposite wing, but what would be the point? Many teams focused on stopping Lomu and then had their pants pulled down by the rest of the All Blacks’ team.
JONAH - HOW great!? GOAT winger.... simply awesome
24:00 Cohen perfecting the Ash Splash. What is it with Saints?
@TheForge10: I agree that historically that New Zealand are top dogs but for a short while back then England had your number and were worthy world champions and the world's No.1 team. If you can't accept that obvious reality, when we took you in the rain with 13 men on the field in your own back yard, and Australia likewise before defeating them in the final on their patch, then you are a small man and need to grow up! Tme Celtic & New World nations showed more maturity & gave credit where due.
World # 1 for about 2 days I think.
@@Crusadersix6 ~ We all know the #rugby world rankings system does not always necessarily precisely reflect the reality. Generally, though, it is pretty accurate. I can only suggest you re-read my comment, and specifically the final sentence!
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A year or two ago, #Ireland briefly became number one in the rankings, having defeated the #AllBlacks twice in a year. Fact. Some were dubious as to whether they deserved the accolade, but you can only do what you can do; you can only beat who is in front of you.
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#England defeated #NewZealand in their own back yard in mid-2003. They then crossed the Tasman and defeated #Australia in their back yard too. Five months later England went and won the #WorldCup - on Australian soil. The facts are clear and unassailable. England's period of dominance in the year or two leading up to and including the 2003 World Cup was self-evident. It didn't last long thereafter as some members of the squad called it a day, though for all that England still subsequently made the World Cup final - against victorious #SouthAfrica this time - in 2007, much to my surprise and that of many of my compatriots, I might add.
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So quite clearly, for a time at least - and a bloody sight longer than two days! - England were the number one rugby union team in the world. Any fair-minded person knows that. It was all a long time ago and - what with this horrendous Coronavirus Covid-19 disease sweeping the globe in 2020 - in the great scheme of things it is of little importance. Nonetheless, facts are facts, and those who love to crow (even if they have plenty of justification) should try to find some humility within themselves and have the good grace to acknowledge other's achievements, however scant or fleeting they may be. To do otherwise is incredibly ugly and unworthy of respect.
I find it distasteful to even have to discuss this. I did not question Ireland's right to their number one ranking. I have never contested NZ's numerous and well deserved number one rankings, nor those of other nations like Australia or the Boks when they have experienced periods of dominance. I have always said that northern hemisphere nations are only as good as they can be when judged against the southern hemi's rugby giants. Well, for a while in the early noughties, England were.
As utterly dominating in all aspects as England were in their semi-final demolition of #NZ in the 2019 World Cup in #Japan (to the surprise of virtually everybody, including me) in a match in which the #Kiwis were gifted the only points they managed to score due to a very poor throw-in by an otherwise rampant England at their own lineout, and during which one of England's two other disallowed tries should really have stood (when, with forward passes aplenty, did officials decide to zoom a camera into the depths of a maul like that and come to such a conclusion?) I came across no Englishman who felt we should have won the final. Despite the hugely damaging freak injury to our prop a couple of minutes in, on the day South Africa were simply too strong and well-drilled, and with plenty of skill in the bag too, as they showed when they cut loose late on. So hearty congratulations to South Africa. Best team in the world as of now. A fully deserved victory!
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Frankly, I find it piss-poor that certain people - I mean you specifically #GaryDowd - are incapable, it seems, of similar largesse. Such miserly dishonesty and childish churlishness speaks volumes about such people as human beings and will inevitably manifest itself in other facets of life. It is certainly a manifestation of 'little man syndrome'. I'll leave it to others whether they think it is redolent of 'little country syndrome' too, though personally as a big fan of New Zealand as a country and of their rugby folklore I think it is unfair to tar others with the same brush.
Basically, people like Gary Dowd are the dregs of humanity. The lowest of the low. The truth is that every nation has such idiots. Every nation has to suffer its own fools. Mercifully, though, they are the minority. I find solace in the firm belief, based on personal experience, that most people are so much better than that!
@@123tgw You do realise that game was almost 20 years ago. Day in Day out England's body of work has been mediocre at best over the decades. You had a couple of brief times in the sun, nothing to really crow about though. Remember a broken clock is right twice a day. The AB's historically in comparison have a body of work (over a 130 years) that no other sporting team on earth has achieved. That is a 82% win/loss ratio.
BTW The All Blacks have played England in 7 Test Series (Since 1963) comprised of 15 games. NZ have won 14 games drawn 1 and lost 0. Really an annihilation don't you think?
@@Crusadersix6 ~God you're thick #GaryDowd! Have I denied any of that? You're a terrible 'ambassador' for #NewZealand & the #AllBlacks. You're an embarrassment to #NZ #rugby & humanity. Now piss off!
@@Crusadersix6 Don't be so bloody cocky, you big-headed prick. Think yourself lucky we English taught you how to play the bloody game, and all the others, by the way.
We never could stop Lomu! What a player!
Terrific game. England played great at beginning of second half to pull out a big lead. But the All Blacks roared back and were so close to victory.
I remember there being a public outcry in NZ that Ben Blair was picked ahead of Cullen. Blair didn't have a good game and he stuffed up that last play down the sideline by not stepping inside, had it been Cully, he would have stepped inside and scored the match winner. How good was Lomu!?! and Marty Holah too, He was unfortunate to have played the same time McCaw came onto the scene.
GREAT GAME and some great moments. I just like that at the end of the game after knocking spots of f each other - they are great sportmen and great gentlemen. I like the fact that this sport is so violent adn competitive but no real trash talk, just get on with it and respect after the game - it goes all the way dow to club leevel - even if the ref has a mare they take it on the chin and give him a bit or gentle ribbing and banter after the game in the bar. I was at a low level eearl season competitive match with 6 teams playing and just a good biut of bant and respect by amateurs from builders to bankers, teachers to techniciian, it is all about the love of the game
I'm Welsh and it es good to see some class rugby by England yesterday. The best bit is reading the comments from before yesterday's game. All the cocky NZ ers going mental. Bet all of them were crying yesterday, wish I'd seen their faces
Close game, great to see Lomu in action, and Tindall with hair.
Amazing how much the game has changed since then. The defences and rucking are so much more precise. This England side wasn't the best to watch but they were very effective. After they won the w.c every side began to copy their preparation and conditioning and suddenly England were struggling.
My main lesson from this is that Stuart Barnes is a complete knob. Is he always hungover?
No..he really is just a knob 😂
richard hill went to my school awesome player
Jonah’s second try was a thing of rugby union football beauty.
This was a likeable English team.
Sinbad deserves to play more for England!!
Lots of one hit wonders in this side that should have beaten England.
Sam Broomhall , Keith Lowan , Ben Blair , Steve Devine , Joe McDonnell. All never seen again in an All Black jersey. Mehrtens was dropped the very next year.Lomu got ill and was never seen again in an AB jersey.
Those running angles from the AB 3/4 back is outstanding
It's a Shame this England team not playing in Rugby World Cup next year.
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I don't get it, Wilko kicked it out at 80:54 surely that would be the end of the game?
Whenever England are crap I always come back to the autumn internationals of 2002 and the 2003 six nations and world cup and I feel better. The best England team ever.
Jason Robinson was the Cheslin Kolbe of yesteryear. What an electric player! zazazaza 4 RWC's....
Rugby now is so boring compared to this
They need to bring back rucking to make the game less like british bulldog
From a froggy, I have to say that a match England vs NZ is something pretty spectacular. I'd say that England is probably the best team of Europe, for the reason that France has no constance !
Christ, I'd forgotten Jonah Lomu was still playing in 2002.
Great haka spoilt by the crowd. I was embarrassed. Memorable victory
How did your 1st XV did in the ensuing world cup then? just hard cheese.
A team with Howlett, Umaga, Lomu, Spencer, Holah, Randell, Meeuws and Hore is handy enough I reckon. England did well
I would have loved to see someone take a few strides out to Jonah at the hakah!!...
What exactly did the commentators not see for Lomu's first try?
Hey there. A Job Well Done! morning languid What's your opinion about that 11
You are the best! LOVE longer videos
If in doubt give NZ the try. If in doubt when the opposition score, tmo chalks it off. Always, always benefit the AB's
Amazing Win even after all this time...expect the same with Borthwick's England!
it has for new zealand the allblacks have every rugby trophy rugby has to offer them at the moment they on top of the world at the moment
Jonah we miss you yet.
Jason Robinson. What a f'in legend
it was interesting hearing how New Zealandera were sick of lomu's form during the clip. As a kiwi i was always bemused by my fellow countrymans reactions to Jonah sometimes. he was gushed over internationally but we always panned him alot of the time. I would rather have Lomu in my team or not.Form or no form.
Especially when he was playing with a life threatening decease & unwell. It seemed we loved him more than the Kiwis. Even though we in NH were the recipients of his bumps or being run over and tries. I was rather shocked at his funeral? The stadium.wasnt full?
What a fantastic game!
Well done England! The first of many subsequent victories over the All Blacks since then!
3 more to be precise
The Lomu Express..lol...great game...exciting finish!
It is fun looking at this game some 17.5 years later. First NZ try would now not be given, second NZ try would be called back for a tip tackle, Eng first try might have led to a NZ yellow card, NZ attack on 78 mins stopped by a seat belt tackle - penalty try and a yellow card.
Other thoughts: scrum halves passed the ball much quicker then than now, Woodman had a stunning game and the Chris Ashton "Ash splash" was copied from Ben Cohen!
Not sure about that, NZ's first try would probably be given on the grounds there was 'no separation' between the player and ball, it would count now just as it counted then
12:39 that tackle !
Totally illegal...but sent the guy to Disneyland
i love how ben cohen holds on to blair for a moment after his try saving tackle...just making extra sure hes not going anywhere.lol
This weekend England may win I always have faith in my team when it comes to the All Blacks
wait we beat NZ when they still had Lomu?
Ali Williams and Andrew Hore playing their first test! No Marshal or Kelleher at half-back, and the centurians, Muliaina and McCaw weren't even on the team sheet! Wow, how the All Blacks have changed in 10 years
As an england fan in 2023- watching this makes me sad
@dancemusic23 at the time they used to leave the clock on all the time and ad d extra time at the end just like in football.
Good days...better when more teams are stronger....even if one of them is England....great stadium and fans ..just a shame about the rugby they play most of the time
The Tongan legends on the wings for the ABs
16:34 Huge overlap on the blind side.
I've met Leonard, Robinson, Healey and Johnson. I see Dalaglio in my local café.
Ha ha. I see him at the barber shop across the street from my flat quite often. Going for a shave, presumably! :-D
ten years hav passed and the game has not got any better,
look at the last world cup final.
Great game, disagree with a scrum turnover for the AB's, but super quality exciting rugby.
the ref calls full time. The clocks almost always off by a little bit at the end of a match.
06:15 Barnes is full of it. 100% try
Why was there like 86 mins on the clock? Why didn't the match end when the ball went out onm 80 mins!
@Patrick Bourke I agree. But we know we're no good and we don't cry about it. We're not arrogant enough to think we have the right to win every game. And we're not cheaters. Happy to support wales whether they win or lose. Must suck to support a dirty side. But each to their own. Just gotta commend england for out classing you on every level :)
What's up, yo? Brilliant! belong quixotic What do you think, guys? !
Six Nations and World Cup thats all that matters. Southern Hemishere would be Tri Nations World Cup; beating New Zealand in the Autumn of 2012 does not mean much when the World Cup is still 3 years away.
Thanks
Ben Cohen with the original swallow dive at 24:01
Well i would have loved to have seen the England team of 2000-2001 play the All Blacks in those years. They drew a series in South Africa that they dominated and should have won both in 2000 and both the boks and blacks were no great shakes in those years.....
JW did not have a particularly good game. For once! Best players for England Woodman and Thompson.
Food for thought. At the final whistle we are reminded that this was only the 5th time we had beaten NZ. At this time France had beaten them 4 times. In New Zealand.
after dropping a pass Jonny got a stamping. In front of the ref as well nothing said unbelievable
That was a first try by Lomu as he never lost control of the ball and the "tackling" by Robinson and Tindall was non-existent.
The ball landed on Tindal's leg and he lost control with no downward pressure. As clear as can be. TMO got it wrong.
what a legendary game
Great England! As for the ABs, their 1st try was not a try, for Lomu had lost control of the ball and their dangerous foul playing with high tackles and knees on heads and diving into mauls and coming from off sides e.t.c was constant during the game... Unacceptable, even for that period of the game being much more tolerant to dangerous play!... Disgusting one sided ref!... Thus, Great England!!! Greetings from a Greek friend of Rugby.
YOu don't need to have 'control' of the ball when grounding. This is a persistent myth created by match officials who talk about downward pressure, control, etc, some of whom don't seem to know the rules of the game based on the way they describe the process! Just contact is necessary in that situation.
was that not from a conversion?
you absolute legend hike
Dirty grub Howlett dropping the knee on Moody as he scored in the corner 18:39
He's an asshole.
always was.
loved how Cohen striped him for pace
this game shows just how fast howlett is
untill Cohen leaves him for dead
and Ben Cohen the fastest of the lot
The greatest All Black team EVER, beaten by the best England team EVER. Enjoy eternal peace Jonah x
not sure but I suspect the "time off" was not around then and were still using football like extra time
Great watched 7 times
+lfc lee Yeah but England then went on to beat a full strengths New Zealand team in their backyard a year later!
I'll freely admit England were miles ahead as the best team in world rugby 2002-2003. They would have beaten the All Blacks in the 2003 RWC final if the AB's had somehow overcome Australia. If anything England played better before the RWC, they tended to go back into their shell at the tournament, a pity, as they had some great attacking play in the 2002 games against NZ, Aus and SA.
dogmatix asterix The 2003 RWC was "difficult" somehow and we definitely didn't play at our best. That was disappointing as we really had played some brilliant stuff from about late 2000 - mid-2003. I'll still take it though!
Great game, great England team.
New Zealand's national sport: Rugby
England's national sport: Football
New Zealand's win % versus England in Rugby: 77.78%
England's win % versus New Zealand in Football: 100 %
Anything else you need to know?
Aren't statistics wonderful?
New Zealand total rugby winning percentage 82%
England total football winning percentage 57%
New Zealand rugby world cup winners 3
England football world cup winners 1
New Zealand 2010 Football World Cup goals scored 2
England 2010 Football World Cup goals scored 2
England rugby registered players (senior male bracketed) 1,990,988 (131,399)
New Zealand rugby registered players (senior male bracketed) 146,893 (27,726)
England football players total (male bracketed) 4,164,110 (3,829,000)
New Zealand football players total (male bracketed) 198,757 (164,667)
New Zealand Sporting codes by active participation in last 12 months.
Golf 500,000
Tennis 317,500
Touch rugby 260100
Cricket 223,700
Football 198,757
Basketball 166,800
Rugby 146,893
Netball 140,000
Rugby is hardly NZ's national sport.
Anything else you need to know?
I am not going to participate in your argument and I am not either English or Kiwi
But you saying rugby is hardly NZ's national sport is a total BULLSHIT.
If you are a kiwi then I further cannot believe you. Every source have explicitly stated that rugby is the De Facto national sport in New Zealand. As an asian who is studying in New Zealand right now, RUGBY is considered as your national identity. Everything on the news and media is always talking about rugby or the all blacks. I understand that you are trying to prove that kiwis are athletically gifted which I do really understand. But if you are a real kiwi, dont deny that rugby is hardly a NATIONAL or POPULAR sport. If it is not popular, why do the country give so much shit when they lose?
ELEX44 What? You are participating you muppet. Read Sport NZ's numbers, rugby by PARTICIPANTS is not the most popular sport.
Ahahaha I am so done here. By participation rugby is hardly the most played sport. I agree with that. But to claim rugby is not your national sport is very absurd. I do not want to pick a fight or anything but I am just so intrigued that a kiwi like you state otherwise. All my mates here have told me that rugby is the most popular or so called national sport in new zealand. Out of all the sports it have the most spectators, largest T.V viewership and the most money spent from schoolboy level to professional. I am fully aware that kiwis are naturally athletically gifted. But if the sport is not popular, why are they the best out of all teams? And dont call me a Muppet. No reason to do that.
Nah, golf is clearly New Zealand's national sport. Dogmatic Asterix has the stats to prove it.