The only thing about tilling grass in is the fact that all those little grass pieces have a tendency to come back. I do it with a front tine tiller. Work. Anyway, after doing it this way for a while I ran across a guy who uses silage tarps to place over the area you want the grass gone. I had a smack my forehead moment. He also uses the tarps to rotate around the places in his garden that are lying dormant. He pulls them off after a while to plant. That keeps the weed seeds from germinating. I think I will try the tarps. My garden is already tilled in, however I can see where it would keep the weeds down. Less work. Dead weeds.
95% of all life is in the first 16" of soil. We've worked our farming land to death. Most mass grown crops have far less nutrients than those grown decades ago. Like your friends thinking.
Grass is tough to deal with. The tiller doesn’t chop it up so much as it buries it deeper with each pass. When we do a new plot and don’t kill the grass, I run the landscape rake over it and get a lot of that out.
Man, would I ever loved to get out and do tractor stuff. It’s been raining in eastern Washington for months. Every weekend has done nothing but rain. What a great video!
Good tips on using these attachments. Don't have a need for time being...That said, need to learn in case there is a need in the future! Thanks for sharing!
Everything's a learning curve the first time. Get some rain on it or water it, re till it. Take the S-tynes off the bedder and set the disc's so that they cover the inside half of the rear wheels and set them at 30° ish. You should then get a nice even bed, run the outside of your back wheel along bottom of the bed on our next pass.
My tiller is the best attachment I think I bought for my 1025r. Took a min to know how to use it but it's great. Nice and slow and multiple passes if needed. Always turns out nice.
I like the idea of turning it over the year before with a plow and letting the grass die over the winter. I know, that wasn't an option for you. But I think I'm gonna look locally for a single bottom plow...
I've used a row bedder in both established and first year gardens. It does get much easier and it does a better job once the organic material decomposes.
Like that garden bedder… and know its a video to show equipment in use. But that grass has to be killed first or it will always come back and make weeding a pain. Quick way, Round up with tractor sprayer. Best way, poly tarp and bricks to block all light for ~6 weeks. Then till/bedder all the dead grass under… then put down compost heavy on all the tops of rows with wood chips down the valleys paths (the latter to deprive any weed seeds that come in of nitrogen). Voila, very low weeding garden that holds moisture and doesnt bake in the summer heat. But its not nearly as good for tractoring videos of course! ;-)
I think that I would have used dirt dog rake to gather up the grass for a cleaner job. although the way you did it,will give you better soil next year.
The only thing to do in this situation would be to rake up the grass that you mowed off before you rototilled. It would have taken some time but you’ll fight the grass clumps all year.
Use a finish mower first so grass clippings are smaller then plow to bury grass seed. Wait 2 weeks for seed to germinate then till again, will eliminate most of your grass and weeds.
After tilling our garden, we'll drag some of those clumps out with a landscape rake. Seems to help eliminate a little bit of the grass & weeds that we always have come back ....
So the deal with the grass when you're trying to make it raised beds will be there every year if you don't take care of the weeds but the first year you should have plowed and then tilled and you'd had less grass but you want your plow running around 10 in deep and your tiller you only want to run about 4 in deep that way you keep that grass buried down there so I can decompose below-ground that would help you a lot. But you have to do what you got to do to learn how to use things so good luck just thought I'd throw that out there for you and maybe help you little
We did four passes and then to more mixing in alot ot peat moss. We have a heavy learning clay layer not very far down and I wanted to hold the moisture in the soil and not have it drain and run off on that layer. First time with garden and not raised beds, we put strawberries and others in the old raised beds.
Ik because of time you didn’t have the option to plow but in the future I think plowing would really benefit. Awesome video though, keep that ground turning!
I tried using a landscape rake to get the rocks out of a freshly tilled area. What I found was that all of the organic material clogged up the rake and I pulled out almost as much dirt as I did grass/sod, and only a few of the rocks. I think the best way to approach this is to till up the area early enough to let it just lie for a couple weeks and let the grasses start to break down before you try to rake anything out. You also have to be mindful of how damp the soil is. If the soil isn't pretty well dried out, it will not filter through the rake tines very well, and you end up with the same effect as using a rear blade!
I have a bedder I use to make my pumpkin hills I plant around 700 hills of pumpkins it works great. You are going to kick yourself that you didn't spray 1st what happens is you cut the roots apart when tilling and in a few will those roots will re-establish and the grass will pop up growing strong again. I know from experience the only way you can get away with it is when you plant round up ready corn and soybeans and can spray after plants come up
Includes shipping and it’s made in the USA with US and Imported parts. Nearly positive that TSC switched to India for their tillers to keep the cost down.
Question , why didn't you use just the disk the rough up the ground first the till afterwards ...I think you could have chewed up the grass better that way...I not a farmer yet but just watchen yall...
I lock my eyes on a fixed target ahead and line it up with a fixed point on my tractor (center of hood, or perhaps left loader arm, etc.). It makes it WAY easier for me to keep a straight line.
Have you seen the RotaDairon? With your recent tests for tilling/plowing and such and now that you are tilling up the ground, thought this might be a good time to ask if anyone has seen one in the wild. th-cam.com/video/OhRu7JJCZRM/w-d-xo.html
I would recommend putting your rows cross hill so when it rains the water remains in each row instead of running downhill.
The only thing about tilling grass in is the fact that all those little grass pieces have a tendency to come back. I do it with a front tine tiller. Work.
Anyway, after doing it this way for a while I ran across a guy who uses silage tarps to place over the area you want the grass gone.
I had a smack my forehead moment. He also uses the tarps to rotate around the places in his garden that are lying dormant. He pulls them off after a while to plant.
That keeps the weed seeds from germinating.
I think I will try the tarps. My garden is already tilled in, however I can see where it would keep the weeds down. Less work. Dead weeds.
95% of all life is in the first 16" of soil. We've worked our farming land to death. Most mass grown crops have far less nutrients than those grown decades ago. Like your friends thinking.
Grass is tough to deal with. The tiller doesn’t chop it up so much as it buries it deeper with each pass. When we do a new plot and don’t kill the grass, I run the landscape rake over it and get a lot of that out.
Congrats on the beautiful property! It's really going to shine with you mowing, and taking care of it. Looking forward to all the videos!
Man, would I ever loved to get out and do tractor stuff. It’s been raining in eastern Washington for months. Every weekend has done nothing but rain. What a great video!
Good tips on using these attachments. Don't have a need for time being...That said, need to learn in case there is a need in the future! Thanks for sharing!
The deer are sure going to enjoy munching down on your new vegetable plants after they begin to grow unless you are planning to fence off the area
Grass makes everything tough! Looking good!
Everything's a learning curve the first time. Get some rain on it or water it, re till it. Take the S-tynes off the bedder and set the disc's so that they cover the inside half of the rear wheels and set them at 30° ish. You should then get a nice even bed, run the outside of your back wheel along bottom of the bed on our next pass.
Great videos. Glad to see you enjoying your beautiful piece of property. Good luck with the new “garden”.. more like farm!
Thats beatiful grass brother. If you can't hay that im sure a local farmer would pay you and do it.
Thanks for flattening the learning curve for us.
My tiller is the best attachment I think I bought for my 1025r. Took a min to know how to use it but it's great. Nice and slow and multiple passes if needed. Always turns out nice.
I like the idea of turning it over the year before with a plow and letting the grass die over the winter. I know, that wasn't an option for you. But I think I'm gonna look locally for a single bottom plow...
Exactly. Even using a furrow plow now would have reduced the number of passes. IE: Mow, plow, disk, till, furrow.
I've used a row bedder in both established and first year gardens. It does get much easier and it does a better job once the organic material decomposes.
Like that garden bedder… and know its a video to show equipment in use. But that grass has to be killed first or it will always come back and make weeding a pain. Quick way, Round up with tractor sprayer. Best way, poly tarp and bricks to block all light for ~6 weeks. Then till/bedder all the dead grass under… then put down compost heavy on all the tops of rows with wood chips down the valleys paths (the latter to deprive any weed seeds that come in of nitrogen). Voila, very low weeding garden that holds moisture and doesnt bake in the summer heat. But its not nearly as good for tractoring videos of course! ;-)
I think that I would have used dirt dog rake to gather up the grass for a cleaner job. although the way you did it,will give you better soil next year.
Good luck 👍. I just finished getting my gardens in yesterday here in northern Maine and those discs saved me a ton of work.
The only thing to do in this situation would be to rake up the grass that you mowed off before you rototilled. It would have taken some time but you’ll fight the grass clumps all year.
I go through it first with the Middle Buster which is a cheap plow. End results are very good on new ground.
Looks great!
Use a finish mower first so grass clippings are smaller then plow to bury grass seed. Wait 2 weeks for seed to germinate then till again, will eliminate most of your grass and weeds.
After tilling our garden, we'll drag some of those clumps out with a landscape rake. Seems to help eliminate a little bit of the grass & weeds that we always have come back ....
i have one of those from heavy hitch....it is a learning curve...
So the deal with the grass when you're trying to make it raised beds will be there every year if you don't take care of the weeds but the first year you should have plowed and then tilled and you'd had less grass but you want your plow running around 10 in deep and your tiller you only want to run about 4 in deep that way you keep that grass buried down there so I can decompose below-ground that would help you a lot. But you have to do what you got to do to learn how to use things so good luck just thought I'd throw that out there for you and maybe help you little
We did four passes and then to more mixing in alot ot peat moss. We have a heavy learning clay layer not very far down and I wanted to hold the moisture in the soil and not have it drain and run off on that layer. First time with garden and not raised beds, we put strawberries and others in the old raised beds.
Ik because of time you didn’t have the option to plow but in the future I think plowing would really benefit. Awesome video though, keep that ground turning!
You should have used your mid mount mower and bagger instead of the flail mower. That would have removed a lot of that organic matter.
Do you think a landscape rake would be helpful in removing the clumps?
I tried using a landscape rake to get the rocks out of a freshly tilled area. What I found was that all of the organic material clogged up the rake and I pulled out almost as much dirt as I did grass/sod, and only a few of the rocks.
I think the best way to approach this is to till up the area early enough to let it just lie for a couple weeks and let the grasses start to break down before you try to rake anything out. You also have to be mindful of how damp the soil is. If the soil isn't pretty well dried out, it will not filter through the rake tines very well, and you end up with the same effect as using a rear blade!
Why not plow it up, then disc harrow it before tilling, if needed afterwards?
How about using a landscape race to collect the sod.
Rhino needs to make an add-on for the rear to cover more behind you.
When the Sun is behind you, you are not protected at all..
I have a bedder I use to make my pumpkin hills I plant around 700 hills of pumpkins it works great. You are going to kick yourself that you didn't spray 1st what happens is you cut the roots apart when tilling and in a few will those roots will re-establish and the grass will pop up growing strong again. I know from experience the only way you can get away with it is when you plant round up ready corn and soybeans and can spray after plants come up
Make do for now. Keep adding organic material and you’ll have an amazing garden.
Thanks for the vid...always a plus...mellow background d tunes in the sweet opening sequences...job well done editor person...just saynnn😉😉👍🚜👨🌾🚜😎
Great video! You sure thats a ‘garden’? Looks more like hobby farming 😁😁
Sweet music.
I would have used a bottom plow first. Tillers are great but they will never beat a bottom plow.
Would the land rake work to remove the grass or the dethatcher. Just wondering.
“You think you used enough dynamite there Butch” 😂😂
I think you needed to till your ground a little bit more
Dang, that ideal Tiller is $1000 more than a tractor supply equivalent. Is it really that much better?
Includes shipping and it’s made in the USA with US and Imported parts. Nearly positive that TSC switched to India for their tillers to keep the cost down.
Dang! Planning on feeding the community? Might have to put out a farm stand by the road.
Question , why didn't you use just the disk the rough up the ground first the till afterwards ...I think you could have chewed up the grass better that way...I not a farmer yet but just watchen yall...
Because I just moved here and still don't have most of my equipment over here.
How do you keep the lines straight
I lock my eyes on a fixed target ahead and line it up with a fixed point on my tractor (center of hood, or perhaps left loader arm, etc.). It makes it WAY easier for me to keep a straight line.
I can't believe you roto tilled it why didn't you just take 8 to 32 passes with a disc and get the same result. Lol
Had to turn volume off
Have you seen the RotaDairon? With your recent tests for tilling/plowing and such and now that you are tilling up the ground, thought this might be a good time to ask if anyone has seen one in the wild. th-cam.com/video/OhRu7JJCZRM/w-d-xo.html
Uhhhh I see a weed fest! Lol sorry 1st year. Haha
That’s not tractor music!