Does The Polaris RZR XP 4 Turbo S Pass or Fail the Ultimate Slip Test?
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Why are Side-By-Sides so expensive? Here's why: th-cam.com/video/1VCOr4dfDro/w-d-xo.html
TFLoffroad this guy must be the biggest nerd in the office y'all could find than has never been in one other than right there in the parking lot. If you're gonna do a test of this type show it in real world terrain as do all the other channels.
Because there worth it lol. I love my rzr s 900 there all bad ass offroad machines.
Jonathan Chapman my Commander is a bad ass now that I put the lift on it. Before it didn't have enough ground clearance.
Jonathan Chapman those RZRs are so cool my brother has one a 900xp
@@stacyreid5077 I need to get some 30s for my 900s. I have the 29.5 outlaws on it now but I'm needing something more for the rocks. The stock 27s hook up great but there to small. I thought about a lift but it made my sportsman ride like crap
Tommy I hate to tell you but Polaris has been using locked front and rear differentials since 1989 when their products were $3300. Again....a failed attempt at justifying an outrageous price-tag.
Brandon schulz yes you are correct. It was a spool with magnetically locking hubs. But a system that was WAY ahead of the competition of the time. I didn’t mean they used lockers but were a “locked” front and rear differential,
3300$ in 1989? That's even more expensive...
Matias Varela thats CAD.
right.... they've always advertised their true 4wd system against can am for like the last couple years now.
Matt Howell Yup. I used to sell Polaris ATVs. They were hands-down the best winter ATV for a very long time because of their true 4WD system and belt drive. The first one I seen was a 1989 250 4X4 that was equipped with both way back then.
There is only one reason why my rzr cost 25k. There is plenty of people of people willing to pay it. The cost of manufacturing utvs is by far cheaper than that of cars and trucks. The reason I went with a rzr is it less expensive to repair.
Exactly... The same problem with jeeps: popular = $$$
DO you understand supply vs demand?
@@wraith511802003 iIf you weren't so quick to e a smart ass, you would have realized I described the demand part it. As far as supply, they offer rebates at the end of the model year. So, supply is not an issue. Next time don't try to be a jerk.
Brandon schulz Brandon schulz tony's 100% correct. Cost to produce a rzr turbo s is somewhere under $11,000. That's including materials as well as labor. Cost is what it is because the market is supporting it. Supply & demand. The cost for a base crew cab model f150 is nearly 28k with a V6 in it. Cost to manufacture is roughly $15k. There's actually less man hours into building the ford, but when the UAW insists the guy cleaning the toilets make $35/hr...overhead tends to go up.
ROTAXD 👍
Cool test! I'd love to see it compared to other manufacturers 4x4 systems sinelce they're all so different.
I like how you guys expanded this test to offroad buggies... it's really cool! Not so sure with the answer of this one but you should not just do it with SxS, but normal ATVs, cars with 4WD/AWD, crossovers, and trucks. That would be pretty cool to see. Thumbs up for me!
Great review Tommy
Does an fx4 lariat fit on that ramp? Or is too short?
So what you're saying is a side-by-side is The Benchmark for the traction test?
Guys you need to get of the tubes and LEARN before you start making videos about SXS and their tech.. this was amateur hr.
ALL of TFL videos are amateur its like a bunch of stay at home dads got together and decided to start a youtube channel.
@@Diragonoman Yeah they seem pretty elementary
James Avery yet you’re both watching.
Is ranger 500 2018 good?
Ive been telling tfl to do this test 4 years ago. It's better than Tommy's upgraded 50k jeep wrangler.
TFLoffroad will you have a Yamaha grizzly? The new one! I have a grizzly 700 eps 2016 in camo color
Nice! I had one as well I want to get a new one but I wish they would go ahead and put the 850 v-twin in the grizzly chassis because I’d be the first to go buy one! I would love to get a 700 now but then my luck next year they will debut the 850 grizzly or something and then I’d wish I would have waited but I’m getting itchy fingers ready to get a new one for sure !!!
Austin Avery good luck! I think Yamaha is the best! (I don’t said other companies are bad) In my Country, there are beautiful forests, hills and ANIMALS! I saw 3 fallow deer today and 2 rabbits 😁 and they didn’t run away, my quad isn’t very loud. (Where U from?)
Bence Pálóczi im from North Carolina. You?
Austin Avery from Hungary🇭🇺
Do it with the titan.
When are you going to RACE it up cliffhanger and your other demo trails in 2-WHEEL to show how sadly underwhelming the performance of trucks/crossovers etc are by comparison?
Be back next week while we watch paint dry!
I like the looks of the Can Am better, but like the 32" tires on the Polaris.
This is for the UTV guys, does polaris still use the hillard clutched hubs and spooled front "diff" to achieve 4wd?
Patrick Rich No. Central Hillard clutch in the front diff, instead of the hubs.
@@DudefromtheSkys awesome thanks. The hub system is less than ideal as it sometime does one hub but not the other in the cold. A little annoying.
It’s not a locked rear differential. It’s a spool. You guys really need to educate yourself on these topics you’re trying to “teach” others on.
Spools have zero differential action. While locked differentials do. Detroit style can uncouple to allow for different rpm output and elockers can disengage. Spools will always force the same rpm. Huge difference.
Also, lockers and spools are substantial because they dynamically send torque to the wheel with the most traction. If one wheel is on ice or in the air, then the other wheel will get all the available torque from the axle until you send more torque than it can transmit. Traction control operates off the limits of the differential, which is usually open and that means torque flows through one wheel with less traction in difficult situations and the brakes artificially change traction levels to get the wheels with better traction more torque. They don’t simultaneously send torque to both wheels all the time.
Firestarter no on RZR’s both diffs are always locked
Michael Swiger there's only one diff on a rzr and no, it's not always locked. The rear has no planetary gears to speak of. It has a ring and pinion. The ring gear is fastened directly to the axle. For every revouloution of said ring gear, BOTH rear tires will rotate one time. The front differential is most certainly NOT locked. Were it locked, the machine would handle like dogsh!t when in 2wd, and it would still handle like dogsh!t when in 4wd. The front diff is a limited slip.
These guys are mainly inclined on automobiles. I will give them credit because they are expanding content. Though I will say that the offroad should be left to that Canadian guy, but give it some time for them to learn how an ATV works.
Asphalt8ficionado they make a lot of mistakes on road vehicles as well. For instance, they claim the tundra has a limited slip differential when it doesn’t. A-LSD is a marketing term for open differential with brake actuated traction control. The differential itself cannot split torque and yet they consistently claim it is an lsd.
They’re good at monitoring fuel economy on hills, but even that make make too much emphasis on low end torque when none of those engines operate at 1800/1900 rpm going up their pass.
Then they drive two 4x4s up a hill, one goes up easily and the other they have to demonstrate Newton’s 1st law to make it up... then they claim they both passed. Take the same line, same speed, and if one fails let it fail.
Firestarter not sure about toyota, but a true limited slip diff is most certainly NOT brake actuated.
First of all, that rzr doesn't have a locked rear diff. It has no diff at all, it's running a spool as are most sxs. The only companies I know of who have an open lockable rear diff is polaris (general 1000 & certain rangers) and cf moto. Second, why did you even bother with the second test ?
Oh cool now my little sister knows what 4wd is.
This has been a known Fact that Polaris has the best AWD system in the UTV industry, but next try out the Can-Am Maverick X3 X-RC (Rock Crawler) with their NEW Smart-Lok system. Can-Ams are known as the 3 wheeler of the 4 wheeled UTVs, but Can-Am says the new Smart-Lok front diff will get you out of situations. But RZRs are still better. And its pronounced "Razor" not "R·Z·R". I wish y'all would stick to Truck testing because you are so far behind with your knowledge of the UTV Industry. I'm giving your video a 👍 only because the RZR is the best at what it does in AWD.
Mid_South_RZR I've driven an X-RC and when she's locked, she's locked. Whether they'll stay together only time will tell. As for the visco locks, yes, they do suffer a bit in the crawling department. As for everywhere else, theottle modulation will both lock them up and keep them locked. Just takes some getting used to.
yeah and the RZR 1000 turbo is the only one with a transmission from Polaris that doesnt have a reverse chain..
2 front and 1 rear is a pointless test as it's locked at the rear. Impressive stuff anyway
We've already shown that the rear is spooled...
Let's see what happens when only 1 rear wheel is on the ground. LMAO
Spoiler alert, a can am would fail this test.
100% agree, but would it fail with the new Smart-Lok technology?
Smart loc is what can am should have done from day one, however it is to smart for its own good many times and wont loc when you need it under load.. really odd set up.
It wouldn't. The visco still locks, and the smart-lok will lock sooner. Fanboy nonsense.
John C
Real world experience says other wise.. The visco lock is still garbage in that machine.. THey should get rid of it completely and leave it with the smartloc alone.
Here is the crappy visco loc in action.. I know you going to say he need more throttle..
th-cam.com/video/UFHHgVKhXkg/w-d-xo.html
The Wrangler has locking diffs...
So cool this RZR
Wow, what an amazing test that was. Now I’m going to go out and spent $35,000 on that machine. Pfft. Stupid. Still doesn’t justify why they’re so expensive. They sell them at that price because people will pay that price. Plain and simple.
Why do people say rzr the way it’s spelled instead of saying razor which is the way you’re supposed to say it
It pisses me off to no end when people do that..... its usually the ones that have no idea about the sxs community that talk like that.
because razor makes toys, rzr is a big mans toy not a cell phone.
Bad marketing, maybe, It's not like they were limited to a three letter title.
Why are you upset when people read how things are written?
Its written as RZR on the graphics. so people are just saying it as its written. makes sense to me.
For the life of me I can't understand a side-by-side trend. If this impresses you you should go buy one.
Can’t unsee this vid. Amateurs
Pointless video!!
Oh my....! CanAM can do this ,...all day long. I would suggest that most ATV's will pass these 'tests'!
Until just last year CanAms would have failed the test with rollers on 3 of the 4 wheels
Sorry Jeremy,...mine is a 2009 and when I bought it at my local dealer, the guys from CanAm were there and they were showing off the Visco-Lok front end, it was one of the main reason's why I bought it and I can tell you it works well.
Oh so it has 4wd 👍🏻
Try it in a canam. You wont ever be able to get on the rollers lol
Lol well you got some views I guess. This thing could probably just power off rollers on all 4 corners.
Actually test it in a real environment
Front gearcase rear is part of transmission. Not a differential to be seen. There is no ‘diff’erence in wheel speed. Lack of drive to the rear causes the rollers in front gearcase to throw out and engage the front wheels until traction returns to the rear.
That F’r is a big B*tch .... away from outdoors you can get a sense of its size.... Still consider it a weekend recreational vehicle.... build up a Jeep or buy this one ready to go, however the Jeep will still streetable for daily life with less compromise
Boring city test... do something that is actually fun or a challenge
Duh!
This was a huge wast of time!!!
Love your channel, but this test is extremely pointless
WOW!! This was DUMB.
I stopped watching this stuff when Roman got all butt hurt because Subaru wouldn't give them a test vehicle. Cry baby
Why are you even doing this test. Was there a question that sidexsides were or were not off road worthy or why they are. I mean, they are specifically designed for the off road. No comparison to a jeep or off road truck. Above and beyond better. Im sorry but this test.....totally useless. Btw, the 4x4 system, only one component of why they are dominant in the woods and gnarly stuff.
Get the best...Can-Am
Please stop calling it an "Are Zee Are". Its pronounced Razor. I know you guys are new to this market but it makes you sound even worse.
are you gonna test your Prius sissy boy
you talk too much.
The thing weighs 2000 pounds (dry) and puts out 168 crank hp. Fill it with fuel and 4 people and see how much of a dog it is. These rigs need at least 300 hp, period.
LOL you have clearly never drove one of these
That’s what I was thinking
@@BadAssEngineering Right😂😂😂 These things are almost rocket sleds😂
Good God! No you don't need 300 HP! Race UTVs are modified around 200 HP and pushing 100+ mph in the desert races. Factory Turbo UTVs with 160+ HP are hitting 85 mph off the showroom floor.
You've never driven one. What a silly comment. You have no idea
If your going to attempt skinny jeans, at least take the shit out of your pockets when you film a video ffs.... 🤦♂️