hands down one of the most useful and clear go videos i've seen. finally, practical instructions about general situations rather than stone-by-stone sequences that should be 'obvious' to players
Mr TH-cam. Why do you bring me here? I play chess and I was looking for endgames in chess that is also problematic as it seems to be in Go. Our friends from Go are aligning pieces in a pattern that I have no idea and I have already enough problems with chess itself....
Yup, I started out in chess. Now I prefer Go. More simple rules but more complicated reading and the handicap system always makes a fair game no matter the skill differences. You might want to try it
That is a life saver. A lot of texts, books or videos say things like : if white invades here, it's of course hopeless.. No. NOT of course. It is *NOT* obvious. 9/10 times I screw up and he gets to live.. there is too much space! I DONT SEE IT.
Sorry, beginner here... at 2:21 why do you say white can only make one eye? Looks like there are 6 points in the shape he's building, so there should be plenty of opportunity to maybe make 2 eyes in there, right? Do you really have to think through every possible sequence of moves to see that it's not possible?
In this situation, it's Black's turn to play and they will aim to prevent White from building two eyes in there. And Black will succeed (unless they make a mistake). You don't have to read every variation to know that. All you need is some playing experience.
what I don't understand is, doesn't the random seeming invasions force you to play a bunch of stones into your own territory, and therefore reduces your total score? what's stopping constant invasions even in the endgame until you've filled most of your area with stones?
This question is fairly common. Remember, every stone you play inside your opponent's territory gives them ONE extra point (provided this stone dies), then they answer, and that reduces their territory by one point, just like you said. One point gained, one point lost. It stays the same.
So the thing about these invasions, is if there is a ko on the board, these generate some 30 ko threats that must be answered; most of them are so monstrous that the ko must be abandoned.
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Dear god thank you. My end game is terrible because of random invades, this helps a ton
You're welcome! Just focus on simple response moves and that should be enough to neutralize an invasion.
hands down one of the most useful and clear go videos i've seen. finally, practical instructions about general situations rather than stone-by-stone sequences that should be 'obvious' to players
these sequences do become second nature at some point, but until then, they can be broken down into several basic ideas
Visual effects are awesome 😂 Keep ‘em at this level, they’re very helpful and provide the right mood :)
Oh yesssss
Mr TH-cam. Why do you bring me here? I play chess and I was looking for endgames in chess that is also problematic as it seems to be in Go. Our friends from Go are aligning pieces in a pattern that I have no idea and I have already enough problems with chess itself....
Yup, I started out in chess.
Now I prefer Go.
More simple rules but more complicated reading and the handicap system always makes a fair game no matter the skill differences.
You might want to try it
@@seanfaherty Agree 1000%. The game is just so elegant in its (relative) simplicity.
Yes amazing video. Probably the most infuriating thing when that happens and they live.
...and then you do the same and live as well! =)
Vadim, thanks for covering details like this (that you won't find in older books)!
we aim to surprise and please 😂
That is a life saver. A lot of texts, books or videos say
things like : if white invades here, it's of course hopeless..
No. NOT of course. It is *NOT* obvious. 9/10 times I screw up and he gets to live.. there is too much space! I DONT SEE IT.
Yes, dealing with invasions takes some experience.
What a nice feeling to know the exact source of the first shown position :)
haha yes, it is!
Great, video, Vadim. This sort of invasion happens at double digit KYU level level all the time!
Exactly!! Hence this lesson was included into the course on invasions.
Sorry, beginner here... at 2:21 why do you say white can only make one eye? Looks like there are 6 points in the shape he's building, so there should be plenty of opportunity to maybe make 2 eyes in there, right? Do you really have to think through every possible sequence of moves to see that it's not possible?
In this situation, it's Black's turn to play and they will aim to prevent White from building two eyes in there. And Black will succeed (unless they make a mistake). You don't have to read every variation to know that. All you need is some playing experience.
Love the tutorials. Love the game. Thanks go magic!
Go truly is a magical game, and we're happy to share that magic with you.
what I don't understand is, doesn't the random seeming invasions force you to play a bunch of stones into your own territory, and therefore reduces your total score? what's stopping constant invasions even in the endgame until you've filled most of your area with stones?
This question is fairly common. Remember, every stone you play inside your opponent's territory gives them ONE extra point (provided this stone dies), then they answer, and that reduces their territory by one point, just like you said. One point gained, one point lost. It stays the same.
So the thing about these invasions, is if there is a ko on the board, these generate some 30 ko threats that must be answered; most of them are so monstrous that the ko must be abandoned.
Yes, that is absolutely true
Даже русскому человеку всё понятно!:-)
Eye-poking _Is_ brutal. I can attest.
also known as eye gouging =))
Love your lessons. Thank you so much.
😄
Классный урок! Теперь я знаю как правильно отвечать на вторжения) Спасибо!
Мы рады, что видео оказалось вам полезно!
Looks like a 25 kyu game. Still a good lesson though.
The thing is that when uncertain about some fundamentals, even an SDK player can make 20k mistakes sometimes
Wow, I (hopefully 😅) learned SO MUCH from this video alone - thank you, Vadim, you’re such an awesome teacher!
We're glad to help 😊
I’ve been watching your videos, but never played, do you recommend I join the San Francisco Go club, to get practice in?
Oh for sure! Not everyone in the world is as lucky as you are to have such a nice club in your city. =)
Even as a 3k, this was helpful
It's awesome that you found our video useful!
Yup, I screw myself with poor reading all the time.
Your stuff is right up my alley.
I like the Baduk Dr but he thinks I’m way smarter than I am
Baduk Dr is for really advanced players I think. =) But he's great.
he's helped for a few things but I mostly like to play socially @@GoMagic
Yoooo 06:14!!!
What did you expect? This is pure magic =)