Hype vs Merit - Emerson Knives CQC7B Review

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  • @adamcooley5594
    @adamcooley5594 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I have this same knife and love it. I disagree with you about it not being attractive. The utilitarian design is beattiful in its simplicity.

  • @ComUnSas
    @ComUnSas 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    'It's just a bit too expensive and the chisel grind is on the wrong side'. Nailed in in 15 words. All respect to Emerson owners who love their knives but the left-hand grind on the CQC-6 I've got sitting in a drawer pisses me off every time I pick it up with a mind to use it.

    • @todome1
      @todome1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'll buy it off you lol! I miss my CQC-6! Seriously though, by now 3 years later you probably know that you CAN get an Emerson with a right-hand grind. I just took delivery on a right-ground Tactical Elements dealer exclusive CQC-7 BT last week and love it, though I've no real problem either way. Some knife users really have a problem and don't understand the chisel grind altogether. I get it though if you're not used to one or have never seen one. I showed my $500 chisel ground Phill Hartsfield Kozuka to a young employee at a knife shop once and he says "It's only ground on one side! How cheap!"

    • @lukehendrickson3669
      @lukehendrickson3669 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@todome1 fellow Hartsfield fan here!

    • @todome1
      @todome1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lukehendrickson3669 Hey there Luke! Yes a big fan here also. I ordered my first blades from Phill (RIP) in the early 80's and met him and his lovely wife at a knife show in San Jose CA not long after. I had ordered a Kozuka with a light blue underwrap and a Strongboy with red. Upon introducing myself he said "Oh yes! Al your knives are almost finished!" We had a nice chat, and he spoke the truth as my knives were delivered about a week later. So 'fresh' I could still smell the paint on the cord wrap. The Strongboy I never used to my recollection, but the Kozuka I put to use right away. I used it to sharpen a bunch of hardwood dowels for one of my son's scout tents. Hundreds of wood shavings later I checked it's sharpness and it still push-cut newspaper easily and shaved hair off my arm! I'm not sure of his heat treating method back then but I've been hard pressed to find a handmade knife that holds an edge as well as Phill's. Except for maybe Ed Fowler's. Take care fellow knife lover and stay safe.

    • @lukehendrickson3669
      @lukehendrickson3669 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@todome1 thanks much! Glad you enjoyed (and used) your blades over the years. I used to stop off at his shop after school and chat with him about knifemaking/life and enjoyed hearing his POV on things. As an aside, how did you find it best to sharpen your kozuka? I’ve taken mine to a strop a few times but it’s not shaving sharp as when he sharpened it for me. Fine grit sandpaper, etc.?

    • @NickWeissMusic
      @NickWeissMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the edge arrangement makes it easier to sharpen for right handed people, field sharpenability is a stated purpose of the company. Also, imagine the internet horror if the flat side were the show/non clip side. Serious internet demerits would be handed out for that!

  • @anthonymiller8979
    @anthonymiller8979 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "Like a tire jack, when I need it I use it, but generally I let it sit where it sat" Sums up pretty well what a true tool is, not a showpiece, not a TH-cam bragging toy, just a tool.

  • @cathyshiley3388
    @cathyshiley3388 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Iam lefthanded and the Emerson knife design is great. They should market their knives to the left hand market.

  • @profesorEDC
    @profesorEDC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think I'd prefer the Cold Steel Recon 1 or Code 4 Tanto. Great vid as always Pete.

  • @mpmassacre91
    @mpmassacre91 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the wave on mine. I do bear the hell out that poor thing but it keeps goin. It's easy to pull out of pocket without deploying it. I replaced the thumb disk with the bottom of a 9mm casing

  • @w.c.dogside1204
    @w.c.dogside1204 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fantastic review, few people ever talk about the philosophy and emotional reasons people by knives. Sometimes the story behind a brand matters. Well done!

  • @iphoneanton96
    @iphoneanton96 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Haha, loved the intro!!

  • @dubglock2312
    @dubglock2312 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    well thought out video

  • @Larry-gs8gb
    @Larry-gs8gb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I carry the mini cqc7 every day, I like the chisel grind as it makes an excellent scraper, which I use it for as much as cutting tasks.I beleive that was also part of the original intent of the knife and the reason for the chisel grind on the " wrong side" it was originally designed to be able to scrape barnacles off of a ships hull so that a magnetic mine would stick to it,and be a decent utility blade.

  • @JustIn-op6oy
    @JustIn-op6oy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite bit of emerson trivia/history is the astronaut knife with a notch in the tanto point for opening up their packaged meals. I would love to get one for my collection (along with a Case astronaut knife).

  • @eachday9538
    @eachday9538 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The flat and phillips head hardware is my favourite thing about that knife. And the name.

    • @CedricAda
      @CedricAda  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kit Bloke reminds me of metal gear solid. Solid Snake woulda carried this for sure

    • @eachday9538
      @eachday9538 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're talking computer games again, anything after Alex Kidd on Sega Master System 2 and I'm lost. I like the brand name Emerson, there is an Emerson clothing brand at Big W, they make underpants and stuff.

    • @eachday9538
      @eachday9538 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually, I lie, got pretty hooked on Plants vs Zombies and other phone games a few years ago, forgot about that phase. Sorry, totally irrelevant. Crazy Dave would have been more of a Cold Steel kind of guy.

  • @Larry-gs8gb
    @Larry-gs8gb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I find the chisel grind on that side makes it easier to use as a scraper,without digging in to the material underneath. I like the big ,blocky handle because it fits my hand well. I also like it because if I mess it up by rough use I send it in and they fix it up for free good as new ( yes I have used this service,and they do stand behind their product 100%) I realize these knives aren't for everyone , that is why it is great to have so many different kinds of knives on the market. My cqc7 is just a tool to me,but it is a very good tool.

  • @krustysurfer
    @krustysurfer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Construction worker bushcraft knife, thanks Pete for the review

    • @krustysurfer
      @krustysurfer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And yeah that is very helpful knowing that they got the blade in backwards for right-handed users the blade is set for a left-handed user even though it's a right-handed knife so great to know thank you...... The cost $190! You got to be freaking kidding me that knife better be near perfect for that kind of money I can buy six or seven good Chinese knives for that amount in this knife is made overseas I don't care about the branding in the story in America we call that hype they call that b******* so no way would I buy this blade based on some wild story of Navy SEALs blah blah blah blah blah

  • @_BLANK_BLANK
    @_BLANK_BLANK 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I use a chisel I put the side with the bevel towards the wood just like the knife has it. That's the way I've seen actual woodworkers do it as well. Having it with the flat side towards what your cutting makes it bite in way more rather than shave of little bits.

    • @JustIn-op6oy
      @JustIn-op6oy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But the thing is - shaving off little bits is what a chisel is for (at least that's what I was taught when I got into woodcarving). Granted, the thought process is "you can always take some more material off, adding more material back on is a chore".

    • @_BLANK_BLANK
      @_BLANK_BLANK 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JustIn-op6oy yes

  • @thsbulldawg82
    @thsbulldawg82 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    They're great working knives. The internet office warrior reviewers "testing" it hard on their cardboard cuts or worse yet cutting an apple will never understand.

  • @Brightside0208
    @Brightside0208 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Emerson Knives - Corn Juice For All"

  • @I_Might_B_Wrong
    @I_Might_B_Wrong 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My understanding is the chisel grind is opposite not for show purposes, but to make right handed sharpening easier.

  • @davidmarshall7752
    @davidmarshall7752 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have no problem with the chisel being on the B side. I don't whittle, I don't need convention, and Emerson is right: It looks better. And why not, aesthetics are important. ZT? Yeah if you want an unreliable locking system and don't need all your fingers 😄

  • @bradleffert9016
    @bradleffert9016 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love your channel. one *minor* gripe I have is how you announce the weights, I would really love it if you included the ounces as well as the grams

    • @CedricAda
      @CedricAda  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Brad Leffert will keep that in mind for future reviews - no problemos!

  • @mattadler4710
    @mattadler4710 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just can't see using this as a work knife. I actually kinda like the very basic and tough aesthetic of this piece, but to me chisel ground blades only make sense on kitchen knives (especially for certain ingredients) and fighting knives. For me, a fighting folder that offers the convenience of having some utility if you only want to EDC one blade. I really agree with pretty much everything else you said. Very strong assessment and review, as always.

  • @spykezspykez7001
    @spykezspykez7001 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Try the Kershaw Emerson CQC-8K. Pretty much the same knife with wave but 8Cr13MoV made in China at an affordable price. Love it.

    • @cptmiche
      @cptmiche 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why would you recommend a Chinese made knife? It just kind of feels insulting to the rest of the world.

    • @stalememe6407
      @stalememe6407 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      kizer, we, rike, ruike, real steel, sanrenmu, ganzo and reate would like to have a word with you

    • @MrPocketfullOfSteel
      @MrPocketfullOfSteel ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stalememe6407 *Junk.*

    • @MrPocketfullOfSteel
      @MrPocketfullOfSteel ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cptmiche *Yep.*

  • @smeefbeef367
    @smeefbeef367 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a Kershaw-Emerson CQC3 and can use the exposed tang as a front flipper too and always wondered why nobody else noticed it but I guess great minds think alike. I can confirm that you can adjust the pivot with a butter knife and even a spoon (tactical high speed low drag cereal spoon that is) thanks for a realistic review man have a good one.

  • @spykezspykez7001
    @spykezspykez7001 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rough G10 is an understatement! That said, I love my Emersons! And Kershaw Emersons as well.

  • @randallkelley3599
    @randallkelley3599 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had one of the early knives in this model, around mid 1980's. As I recal it was in 154cm? Not sure it's been so long!

  • @NickWeissMusic
    @NickWeissMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pretty fair review, I agree they're overpriced, but pretty much all knives are nowadays. You can easily buy a Chinese made knife from a major brand nowadays that costs equal or more to Emerson. When it's considered that Chinese labor costs, at least six times less than American labor, I think the people buying the Chinese knives are crazy, and I'm fine with them thinking I'm crazy for preferring USA made knives with the chisel grind on the wrong side lol.

  • @BrentonCarr
    @BrentonCarr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That price is nuts!

    • @MrT6250
      @MrT6250 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      EDC elephant facts

  • @idye4u
    @idye4u 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    And to add a further comment regarding Emersons. Emerson was approached by the Navy to make them a Special Warfare knife. In his own words they collaborated and came up with a knife that had specific functions. Emerson knives are not wood whittling knives, they are not cheese cutting knives, they arent knives that most people understand. The chisel grind usually has around a 25-30 degree inclusive edge. Emersons have a more acute degree and that means less drag when you are cutting tissue or material. Now there are those that may not like to hear this but Emersons are tools that Earnest was approached by the Navy for SEALs to kill people with. Emerson has knives in the pockets and packs of the British SAS, (mod cqc8), and models that NASA took to Space. So yes, they arent for everyone but they really are designed for a niche purpose

    • @1ohtaf1
      @1ohtaf1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Rofl and how many astronauts (or rather cosmonauts) have been killed with emersons? You people believe just about anything.

    • @Oozy9Millimeetah
      @Oozy9Millimeetah 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Earnest was approached by *NAVY for Seals* !!!!! 😂😂😂😂 If this isn't a 5/5 troll . Then keep on dreaming kid 👍

  • @sour7786
    @sour7786 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Grate review best out. But your paying for the unbelievable warranty. Cold steel warranty sucks ass

  • @MrT6250
    @MrT6250 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    See's chisel grind hits the like button👍 and dips off✌

  • @knightamco
    @knightamco 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love all my 7 Emersons!
    There are still many on my list....😁
    Why did you no cut test with it?

  • @andrewlangshaw5938
    @andrewlangshaw5938 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First off, Emerson himself says it was designed as a weapon.. not a pocket knife. It's simple, rugged, easy to maintain and reliable. Like a glock.. I like that.

    • @Youtube-Censorship-Police
      @Youtube-Censorship-Police 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      so are many cold steel knives, plus they have the bonus of having the strongest locking mechanism.
      don't get me wrong, i like my emerson, but the recon 1, ak47 and lawman offer the same steel and better fit'n'finish for half the price or less, and they are at least or even more rugged than any emerson.
      plus for 20 bucks you can add a snaggletooth on all these knives and bingo, you have a wave opener as well.

  • @Tom_H327
    @Tom_H327 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I totally agree with your thoughts on the blade’s chisel side being on the wrong side of the handle for a right hand grip. The fact that I can’t see the cut irritates me as well. Nice review.

  • @requiscatinpace7392
    @requiscatinpace7392 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve always wanted to get one of these just to have one, then I look at my CS Recon and think Nah what’s the point.

  • @williamhollar7844
    @williamhollar7844 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree 100% hard use knife not for being pretty

  • @darvinclement8404
    @darvinclement8404 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review! I'd love to see you do a review of the v ground version for comparison. I have a mini Commander and a CQC8. Love the look and the handle of the 8 but it's a bit heavy for my tastes. The 154 steel doesn't hold a keen edge very long imo as they heat treat it for toughness over hardness. And I agree with you, they're $50 or so over priced. Great channel!

  • @davefromoz5679
    @davefromoz5679 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive got the kershaw emerson cqc6k and enjoy the grind. I do wonder how the kershaw compare to the real deal

    • @spykezspykez7001
      @spykezspykez7001 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Get the KE CQC-8K, it'll give you a feel of a CQC-7W albeit better finished. Stainless steel liner lock, vs Ti so could last longer.
      I'll be honest, 8K chisel tanto really blew me away in ergos and ease of maintaining the edge.
      You get better steel with an emerson cqc-7 or whatever, and the g10 and liners aren't finished as well as the Kershaw Emerson collars, but they are comfy, they speak to me, I love em except IMO they cost 50-100% more that I wish they did.

    • @spykezspykez7001
      @spykezspykez7001 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 6K, to add, is a true v grind down to the microbevelled, but the 8K is not. Most if not all Emersons from EKI are chisel grind on the left. Even the ones with a v grind primary bevel like a gentleman Jim or horseman or commander.

  • @bobaloo2012
    @bobaloo2012 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The #1 choice of Mall Ninjas everywhere.

    • @toiletpaper5770
      @toiletpaper5770 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you suggest?

    • @imawesome734
      @imawesome734 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Toilet Paper at $200? Cold steel 4 max or code 4

  • @lexis831
    @lexis831 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Emerson knifes a 50 dollar workhorse for only 200$ .

  • @frozenturtlefarts1025
    @frozenturtlefarts1025 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly I never noticed the blade edge making the knife go one way until I just cut some paper. I never cut up apples or stuff like that. I did use my Emerson Patriot to eat sushi though, and I think the grind being on the left makes it easier to sharpen with my dominant right hand as most people are. The grind did make it super easy to peel dry wall tape from under the layer of paint after the Harvey floods.

  • @jackfarmboy
    @jackfarmboy 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Emerson's never really spoke to me.But ill give it to ya, you did a pretty good job selling it. If my "buy next" list wasn't full and then some.... I would Probaly throw it on there.

  • @johncook9983
    @johncook9983 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fair assessment and fortunately, I’m a lefty. I used to see A LOT of right hand dominant people carrying them back in the day, though.
    That blade design and everything else about this knife is why I still carry it almost thirty years later. Unfortunately, about 14 years ago, some scuzz bag stole from my car the first one that I bought in the mid-90’s the first time I was stationed in Hawaii with the Marine Corps. That was a special knife that literally went around the world with me a few times. The schmuck that stole it probably had little to no knowledge of how valuable it was to me, or the significance of it being a made by Benchmade Emerson design, and probably, one of the very few ATS-34 blades still in use. I get that those whose lives don’t depend on their blades and other tools just ‘don’t get it’ and cannot appreciate the design. This probably is a result of wanna-be’s buying a tool they weren’t meant to have because, they think it’s “cool”.

  • @idye4u
    @idye4u 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not just available in a tanto. The 7A blade designation is a drop point blade. Available in black and satin, with or without serrations. Thank you for your review

  • @warriorethic
    @warriorethic 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Why the chisel grind is on the side it is on: free hand sharpening for 90% of the population. Consistent angle sharpeners have spoiled us all, otherwise this question would rarely be asked. Didn't read this anywhere, I just managed to get my two remaining brain cells to work together for once and worked it out logically. This is not sarcasm. I really had to think about it. After watching an Emerson interview again, it suddenly dawned on me.

    • @1ohtaf1
      @1ohtaf1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nope, he said it himself that it was for aesthetics. Your sharpening reason doesn't even make any sense.

    • @Oozy9Millimeetah
      @Oozy9Millimeetah 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@1ohtaf1 oh it does make sense!!! I bet that even the best freehand sharpeners struggle or have struggled with sharpening the other side of the knife, with right handed people it's when you sharpen the edge towards yourself. Some even learn how to sharpen with left hand because of this.

  • @legrandfromage9682
    @legrandfromage9682 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    On a different note, the kershaw Emerson cqc 10k looks pretty cool

  • @cwsmith17
    @cwsmith17 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an Emerson signature. Being the knifemaker who brought the chisel grind to worldwide recognition, we are often asked; Why do you put the grind on the opposite side of a traditional Japanese Chef's knife? The answer is simple….We are not making chef's knives. Our knives are hard knives meant for hard users. We do not cut many tomatoes. Our tests and those of a major government agency determined that there was no difference between right and left side grinds for use as a tool or weapon. The left side was chosen for purposes of visual cue and reference.

  • @andrewlangshaw5938
    @andrewlangshaw5938 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your paying for %100 USA made product yeah its expensive.

  • @richardhatt6541
    @richardhatt6541 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can always put a secondary bevel on the other side of the knife. Problem solved.

  • @VicariousReality7
    @VicariousReality7 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brick handle liner lock.... pffffffff

  • @macmurfy2jka
    @macmurfy2jka 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    about the chisel on the wrong side, the biggest thing that keeps me from buying them. to me that oversight is just unforgivable on what is supposed to be a pure utility knife.

    • @spykezspykez7001
      @spykezspykez7001 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are there knives better? Sure. I have a PM2. It's great. But it doesn't speak to me like an Emerson does. I started with the Kershaw Emerson CQC-6K. Brilliant conventional secondary v bevel, no chisel, drop point, LOVELY knife. Went on to th 8K again from the K.E. collaboration. Yes, the damn thing cuts weird but once you get used to it, chisel grind is convenient. I rolled the edge once, just straightened it out on some marble slab, sharpened it up a bit, honed it on my belt to almost scary sharp. How bad? Give it another go, mate!

    • @macmurfy2jka
      @macmurfy2jka 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +spykez spykez I bought one of those Kershaw CQV-6K's for a friend. Trust me I know what the knives are like. The problem is that I own other chisel ground knives. They are all ground the other way. Even this one super cheap Spyderco knockoff is ground on the correct side. Sushi knives are ground on the other side, marking knives are ground on the other side, carving axes are ground on the other side. Emerson really does have it wrong. Having used knives ground on the correct side transitioning to an Emerson would simply be unreasonable at this point.

    • @spykezspykez7001
      @spykezspykez7001 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. You have to be happy with what you own, bottomline.

  • @Scribbler-i2c
    @Scribbler-i2c 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would not spend 200$ on an hard use work knife when I can spend 6 bucks on a Morakniv that does everything this knife does but better.

  • @asleepyinsomnia
    @asleepyinsomnia 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    gonna address those teflon washers, for a 'hard use' knife, if sand/dirt get into those pivots and scratch up that teflon, that action is done. you'll need to replace those washers.

  • @1ohtaf1
    @1ohtaf1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    CQC actually stands for Crappy Quality Control, so you can't say that they didn't warn you, Ernie Emerson is actually a pretty smart guy in that regard.

  • @ReclusiveMountainMan
    @ReclusiveMountainMan 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Inferior hardware, mid-1990s technology/materials, and inconsistent manufacturing, all at $250.
    The problem is, Emerson has cut corners on cost. The knives you get today are not the same quality they were in the late 1990s.
    The discontinued Zero Tolerance/ Emerson collaborations are a much better option than an actual Emerson for the SAME price.
    Emerson is selling his name and a narrative, not a precision cutting tool.

    • @cptmiche
      @cptmiche 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Knife technology hasn't advanced all that much in 20 years. In addition, most of the newer steels, while harder, are also significantly harder to sharpen. It's fine for something you can give precision maintenance to on a regular basis, but not something that may need crude sharpening to in the field.