Damn, remedy and Sam Lake especially killed it. Champion of light section alone and I can’t believe it but they topped the ashtray maze. Wonderful work at everyone over at remedy
@@bassbandit8803 they did it with the first one, then we got kind of ending with dlcs, then we got ending in American Nightmare, but that is thrown out of the window now.
Both "endings", for Alan and for Saga, were so good. Alan's actually felt hopeful like ascension finally felt possible for him and Saga's felt cold & ominous. I was left floored and staring at the screen with tears in my eyes because I knew i just experienced one of the best games ever. and those credits songs were incredible
"It's not a Loop, it's a Spiral." I hope this means we'll have a full game like Alan Wake 3 and not just some short DLC. Although, I hope in the DLC Alan can meet Alice at least once before everything goes to s*** again, because after all that my man deserves some happiness and see his lovely wife, come on.
@@tanawatprasittimay I don't think we will because at the beginning of the game he said something like letting Saga be the protagonist of the case they are on, but it would be cool to play with him.
@icantthinkofagoodusername4464 the new game plus is already confirmed to have changes in the narrative, from new live action scenes to manuscripts, and probably a new ending. However, this won't conclude the story until the 3rd game.
Is no one gonna call out Ilkka Villi's absolutely wild face in the thumbnail? We thought Sam had crazy face muscles turning into Max Payne, but Ilkka's turning into a goddamn emoji.
Guys the last thing alan says here is “Back to-“ and he suddenly dies. The first thing he said in the game was “Back to the beginning” cuz it’s a spiral and stuff..
There is a door on the 3rd level of Valhalla's Nursing Home down the hall from Cynthia's room and right next to Ahti's room that has a Spiral. I saw quite a few spirals here and there. A loop that goes on and on, neverending, spiraling into the abyss. The Spiral is a truly terrifying AWE.
Spirals have endings. Every time you think you start again, you actually don't because you are on the same place but a level below. Loops/circles are infinite. Spirals are linar
Door has to have his own main line dlc. Man barely had any development and then dropped the bomb on us in the last interview. Plus odin and tors 1988 battle against darkness... same year door supposedly goes missing????
@@mikeestvanikIt's theorized that's why Odin lost his eye due to Mr. Door. Considering Door is Saga's lost father. And one of the dlcs is Night Springs. Mr door had said previously that he was involved in Night Springs so we won't see the last of him. He's like the pathway to other places
Just finish the game ! Made me tear up the whole ending scene left with cliffhangers !! AGGHHH I HATE YOU REMEDY ! But I love this game put in 50 hours into it. Hands down the best game of the year.
One thing I saw is that once you finish the game and know the context of alan being shot, you realize that the end and the beginning of the game loop with each other, kinda like that song from Tyler the Creator in his Igor album. It was an interesting observation that I thought it was clever.
Dark place. Alan is essentially stuck there, split into multiple Alan's due to him changing and re-writting his story so many times, as we see when he shoots himself prior to being taken over by the dark entity. He's stuck in a loop in his own story, possibly/purposely done by the dark entity to make sure it can feed off of Alan and continue to try and escape to spread itself in the real world, or it was done by Alan as a protective measure or accidental insanity, its unclear atm but what is clear now is that through every loop he's getting closer and closer to the center or the end, because like he states at the end " the loop isn't a loop..it's a spiral".
Oh so Alice was haunted by Alan and was taking those photos as a way to cope with losing Alan but also because she wanted to help him out if the Dark Place. But the Dark Place manipulated things and made Alan think she killed herself which which was enough for the Dark Presence to take over Alan, turning him into Scratch. I'm guessing she gonna play a big part in the next game with her photos like Alan with his manuscripts.
...Oh god you're right... although IDK how relevant it is, because we know now that THAT door is Alan's writer's room. Remember it's only one door with a symbol painted on it out of many in the Oceanview.
So I am little bit lost here what does he mean by it not a loop but a spiral, cause if it not a time loop does it mean the spiral are just a never ending event that keeps going with no end?
yaaap it will loop again (or spiral again), casey and saga will come again into cauldron lake because the case of cult of the tree. The evidence can be found when saga found nightingale heart in shop, she said it was like deja vu. So it will loop (spiral) until alan wake achive his ascension. So basically, alan wake I, is the departure, alan wake II is the initiation, alan wake III (maybe) is the real return.
No. Alan is trapped in a loop of getting out, thinking "holy shit it's my fault", and hopping back in. And a loop of deciding that the best way to solve the issue is shooting himself in the head. And a loop of getting Alice out, only for Alice to go back to get Alan out, only for Alan to probably hop back in to get Alice out... All the "real world" stuff is still "real world" stuff, not sure why you'd think it's ALL the Dark Place.
This is not the real ending of the game. You have to play it again (going once more through the loop/spiral) to see real ending. But at this ending, Alice had to make Alan see his dark side, so he won't be so susceptible to the darkness. By making Alan face his dark side and the guilt over Alice’s death being his fault, she really helps him become more conscious and less vulnerable to the Darkness. Alice truly showed him the meaning of “Your friends will meet him when you’re gone.” It’s a moment where Alan starts to come to terms with himself and takes a big step toward healing. The Darkness thrives on denial and inner conflict, just like in the song "Dark, Twisted, and Cruel" (tied to Mr. Scratch), where it says, “When the writer is in doubt, my turn to come out.” This shows how the Darkness feeds off uncertainty and self-doubt. All this conflict and doubt even makes Alan question whether the story he created could really be an easy win. He doesn’t trust himself or the story, and that’s why it ends up failing. So, when Alan finally accepts his flaws, he weakens the Darkness’s grip on him.
From my understanding, at the end Alan realizes that basically the entire game has been replayed multiple times only he is making progress, not just a loop like he thought throughout the game. Which why at the end he says it’s not a loop, it’s a spiral. Meaning it has an end. And the entire game was a “step” up the spiral.
I thought a spiral and a loop be the same shit but I guess the difference is a loop brings you back to the start but a spiral is like a tornado spinning you around. Which doesn’t make sense to me. Lol how is that any better lol
@@BenjaminButton6573 think to the spiral as the typical line version of one. The line starts wide and then moves in on itself and gets smaller until the pen is off the paper. It has a beginning and end unlike a loop which would just connect at the beginning and end.
I played the whole game and uninstalled it! they dragged the ending, “final chapter”, its too long, boring and disappointing! the ending seems rushed out compared to the rest of the game, imo. Way too many in-game bugs once you are reaching the end as well.
NG+ is confirmed with 2 additional expansions. NG+ got leaked and it gives an entirely different ending than this one and it’s considered the definitive ending I believe
its not a loop its a spiral yeah of course it is Alan lmfao just hope the combat is better in 3 than in this crap couldn't even be bothered to finish it even on story difficulty what a bore fest absolute waste of money
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It’s not a lake it’s an ocean.
And now It’s not a loop it’s a spiral.
Its not delivery its digorno
Next game "It's not horror, it's comedy" happy ending starts
It's not a donut it's bagel
Its not a pizza, its a pie
It’s not mad, it’s glad
2:09
Back to-
Back to the begging. Just like he said in opening cutscene. What a game.
In the fi al draft the loop kind breaks. He restarts but fully conscient this time. Logan answers the phone
Its not a game... Its art.
s not a game... Its shit.
Games are art
Yea, but the joke stills good.
Life imitates art and art imitates life @@harrison127
No it's disappointing trash because the developers were stupid enough to listen to Sweet baby
Damn, remedy and Sam Lake especially killed it. Champion of light section alone and I can’t believe it but they topped the ashtray maze. Wonderful work at everyone over at remedy
Alan can't escape for now, because Mr Door want him for his next rock opera project.
Waiting for Alan Wake 3.
Story will conclude in Control 3, there won't be Alan Wake 3.
@@sw-gs why you think so?
@@Billy_Bat1993 Because they push number 3 onto Control, while Alan Wake is more connected to number 2.
Edit: Sorry I meant Control 3 not 2
@@sw-gs I don't understand your logic here....
@@Billy_Bat1993 “The logic of words should yield to the logic of realities.” Louis D. Brandeis
They pulled an Inception ending on us with Saga's ending and a classic Alan Wake ending with Alan's ending
Not ending the game is not a good ending lol
@@bassbandit8803 cliffhanger
@@bassbandit8803 they did it with the first one, then we got kind of ending with dlcs, then we got ending in American Nightmare, but that is thrown out of the window now.
@@klidopidoI mean it’s still canon, it’s just been said to be one of his escape attempts
Except that in the final draft he finally broke off the loop, he reached ascension. He wakes up fully conscient of everything that happened.
It's not a light bullet. It's a light bulb. A new idea.
Both "endings", for Alan and for Saga, were so good. Alan's actually felt hopeful like ascension finally felt possible for him and Saga's felt cold & ominous. I was left floored and staring at the screen with tears in my eyes because I knew i just experienced one of the best games ever. and those credits songs were incredible
lol
Considering the symbol on the writers room door, and a lot of other elements in the game foreshadow spirals, im not surprised
The Old Gods also sing a lyric “the spiral madness of his mind,” so more great foreshadowing!
you even hear the same line if you watch the short film in the game
"It's not a Loop, it's a Spiral." I hope this means we'll have a full game like Alan Wake 3 and not just some short DLC. Although, I hope in the DLC Alan can meet Alice at least once before everything goes to s*** again, because after all that my man deserves some happiness and see his lovely wife, come on.
Fr bro man has been through enough
I hope dlc we can play casey I love this character so much
@@tanawatprasittimay I don't think we will because at the beginning of the game he said something like letting Saga be the protagonist of the case they are on, but it would be cool to play with him.
We will get DLC and then hopefully the third and final game in a few years
@icantthinkofagoodusername4464 the new game plus is already confirmed to have changes in the narrative, from new live action scenes to manuscripts, and probably a new ending.
However, this won't conclude the story until the 3rd game.
Is no one gonna call out Ilkka Villi's absolutely wild face in the thumbnail? We thought Sam had crazy face muscles turning into Max Payne, but Ilkka's turning into a goddamn emoji.
It's a finnish superpower I guess
I feel like Sam Lake and Hideo Kojima take the same kind of drugs before writing their games.
If nothing else, I prefer Sam Lake’s taste in music
never realized how much i want a lake hideo game until now
Lake is a far better writer, not even comparable to Kojima.
@@MisterAZS facts hideo is a creep
Kojima is not that good. Just creepy things without deep sense
"I got in touch with organization that was still looking into what happened in Bright Falls"
That's the organization from Control, right?
yes
Yeah, the FBC. Control's AWE DLC goes into a bit more detail on what exactly went down.
That dialogue made me jump so bad
I fucking love this game
Remedy is one of the best game studios to make games with obscure lore
Guys the last thing alan says here is “Back to-“ and he suddenly dies. The first thing he said in the game was “Back to the beginning” cuz it’s a spiral and stuff..
And the last thing Saga does is try to call her daughter. The first thing that happens in her story is her daughter picking up the phone.
There is a door on the 3rd level of Valhalla's Nursing Home down the hall from Cynthia's room and right next to Ahti's room that has a Spiral. I saw quite a few spirals here and there. A loop that goes on and on, neverending, spiraling into the abyss. The Spiral is a truly terrifying AWE.
That door is the one that you go through as Alan, when you get to the manor at the end. You even meet Ahti there...
@@MlemilieMods Seeing Ahti at any point is a blessing in this nightmare, hands down.
Spirals have endings. Every time you think you start again, you actually don't because you are on the same place but a level below.
Loops/circles are infinite. Spirals are linar
amazing! i hope one of the DLC focus on Tim Breaker and his chase for Mr Door
Hope Mr door comes the main villain in control 2 or alan wake 3 amazing character and actor
Door has to have his own main line dlc. Man barely had any development and then dropped the bomb on us in the last interview. Plus odin and tors 1988 battle against darkness... same year door supposedly goes missing????
@@mikeestvanikIt's theorized that's why Odin lost his eye due to Mr. Door. Considering Door is Saga's lost father. And one of the dlcs is Night Springs. Mr door had said previously that he was involved in Night Springs so we won't see the last of him. He's like the pathway to other places
Need that Alex Casey dlc
It’s not a loop, it’s a spiral. It’s insanity.
It's not a Loop it's a Spiral... you know what takes shape of the spiral? Polaris.
Just finish the game ! Made me tear up the whole ending scene left with cliffhangers !! AGGHHH I HATE YOU REMEDY !
But I love this game put in 50 hours into it.
Hands down the best game of the year.
Play the fi al draft and you will have missing part of the ending
One thing I saw is that once you finish the game and know the context of alan being shot, you realize that the end and the beginning of the game loop with each other, kinda like that song from Tyler the Creator in his Igor album. It was an interesting observation that I thought it was clever.
And the fi al draft is the next loop, the whole game is one big loop. But this time Alan reaches ascension
Mr. Scratch (mocking): “It’s not a loop. It’s a spiral.”
It's not a sequel.
It's a prequel to a threequel.
There is an prequel unfortunately it a tv show
@@HoursIVwhat alan wake tv show?
1:47 My thoughts too, Alan. I also pray the same.
Saga’s ending is so eerie. Going dark and hearing nothing but the phone ringing. It rang five times though. She didn’t pick up.
Does anyone have an idea where did Alan woke after Alice video? Was it the Dark place or the writers room in real world?
Dark place.
Alan is essentially stuck there, split into multiple Alan's due to him changing and re-writting his story so many times, as we see when he shoots himself prior to being taken over by the dark entity.
He's stuck in a loop in his own story, possibly/purposely done by the dark entity to make sure it can feed off of Alan and continue to try and escape to spread itself in the real world, or it was done by Alan as a protective measure or accidental insanity, its unclear atm but what is clear now is that through every loop he's getting closer and closer to the center or the end, because like he states at the end " the loop isn't a loop..it's a spiral".
Oh so Alice was haunted by Alan and was taking those photos as a way to cope with losing Alan but also because she wanted to help him out if the Dark Place. But the Dark Place manipulated things and made Alan think she killed herself which which was enough for the Dark Presence to take over Alan, turning him into Scratch. I'm guessing she gonna play a big part in the next game with her photos like Alan with his manuscripts.
Alan's next book: Ascension
Mark my words, the final line of Alan Wake III will be :
"It's not light, it's darkness."
Swap them around and I think you're onto something
"Kingdom Hearts! Fill me with the power of Darkness... Supreme darkness...
- You're wrong ! I know now, without a doubt. Kingdom Hearts... is light !"
It is the best game i have ever played...amazing story, graphics and gameplay...just wooooow !!!!
Not only we didn't got any answers but it created a lot of questions
Play the final draft for the real ending
i know the new game plus wow man finally a great ending 😎👌🏻@@rubenarturopj
Waiting for Alan Wake 3😊
What a great game!
It’s not a loop…
iT’S a sPIRAL
Just finished my 8th playthough, final draft. I am the master of many worlds.
warlin door, warl-in door, whirl in door ? like the spirals 🌀 found on all of the doors ?
...Oh god you're right... although IDK how relevant it is, because we know now that THAT door is Alan's writer's room. Remember it's only one door with a symbol painted on it out of many in the Oceanview.
@@colbyboucher6391 And that one door appears in more than one place, traveling through the real world and the dark place exactly like Warlin.
there a refernce of jesse from because of alice jacket.
5:11
Glad you spoiled the end to a game in the title thanks . 🙏🏻
Its not a donut... Its a bagel
And when you put everything on a bagel... Michelle Yeoh gets casted.
So I am little bit lost here what does he mean by it not a loop but a spiral, cause if it not a time loop does it mean the spiral are just a never ending event that keeps going with no end?
A spiral has an end, while a loop doesn't. He is spiraling, but he's reaching the end. He'll escape when he reaches the end
2:10
I thought he never stopped talking.
What is the name of the song of the end credits?
Alan Wake 3 when? Do we need to wait another 13 years? I WILL IF WE HAVE TO!
This is cinema
Feels like rick n morty the hole episode
What is the song name
Thanks for spoiling just by reading the title!
It's not a game.
It's real life!
wait im so confused so was everything we did in the game just the dark place ?
yaaap it will loop again (or spiral again), casey and saga will come again into cauldron lake because the case of cult of the tree. The evidence can be found when saga found nightingale heart in shop, she said it was like deja vu. So it will loop (spiral) until alan wake achive his ascension. So basically, alan wake I, is the departure, alan wake II is the initiation, alan wake III (maybe) is the real return.
No. Alan is trapped in a loop of getting out, thinking "holy shit it's my fault", and hopping back in. And a loop of deciding that the best way to solve the issue is shooting himself in the head. And a loop of getting Alice out, only for Alice to go back to get Alan out, only for Alan to probably hop back in to get Alice out... All the "real world" stuff is still "real world" stuff, not sure why you'd think it's ALL the Dark Place.
@@colbyboucher6391 don’t gotta be a dick about it kiddo just asking a question
Please Alice Is really dead ? Or not... What is yours opinion...
No she is not.
Wait I don't get the ending can someone explain me pls
This is not the real ending of the game. You have to play it again (going once more through the loop/spiral) to see real ending. But at this ending, Alice had to make Alan see his dark side, so he won't be so susceptible to the darkness.
By making Alan face his dark side and the guilt over Alice’s death being his fault, she really helps him become more conscious and less vulnerable to the Darkness. Alice truly showed him the meaning of “Your friends will meet him when you’re gone.” It’s a moment where Alan starts to come to terms with himself and takes a big step toward healing. The Darkness thrives on denial and inner conflict, just like in the song "Dark, Twisted, and Cruel" (tied to Mr. Scratch), where it says, “When the writer is in doubt, my turn to come out.” This shows how the Darkness feeds off uncertainty and self-doubt. All this conflict and doubt even makes Alan question whether the story he created could really be an easy win. He doesn’t trust himself or the story, and that’s why it ends up failing. So, when Alan finally accepts his flaws, he weakens the Darkness’s grip on him.
Can someone explain this ending
From my understanding, at the end Alan realizes that basically the entire game has been replayed multiple times only he is making progress, not just a loop like he thought throughout the game. Which why at the end he says it’s not a loop, it’s a spiral. Meaning it has an end. And the entire game was a “step” up the spiral.
I am no lore expert though, that’s just what I thought he meant.
I thought a spiral and a loop be the same shit but I guess the difference is a loop brings you back to the start but a spiral is like a tornado spinning you around. Which doesn’t make sense to me. Lol how is that any better lol
@benserkowski4663 A spiral has a beginning and an end a loop comes back on itself like a circle.
@@BenjaminButton6573 think to the spiral as the typical line version of one. The line starts wide and then moves in on itself and gets smaller until the pen is off the paper. It has a beginning and end unlike a loop which would just connect at the beginning and end.
okay, what it means?
A loop doesn't have an end, but a spiral does. Alan is in a spiral, one he will eventually reach the end of.
It's not a hotel, it's trivago
Oh no Marx Lenin
Why are they using live action? And why is he dressed like John Wick?
i personally dont care, but putting major spoilers in the title is kinda... shitty
Shit game i want my 70 dollar back
did you play the first game and watch the final draft ending?
@@yoyohobo ive played alan wake
@@8pom you obviously have no taste for a very creative and artistic game
@@michaeljames3252 just accept that the game is ass
I played the whole game and uninstalled it! they dragged the ending, “final chapter”, its too long, boring and disappointing! the ending seems rushed out compared to the rest of the game, imo. Way too many in-game bugs once you are reaching the end as well.
How can you drag and rush something my guy at least if you finna hate make it make sense
WTF are you even talking about? Your complaints make no sense at all.
It's not a game it's a money grabber 😂
So get ready for Alan Wake on PS6 which will cost around $ 1000 and Alan Wake 3 at $90 bucks 😂 jajajajajaja
NG+ is confirmed with 2 additional expansions. NG+ got leaked and it gives an entirely different ending than this one and it’s considered the definitive ending I believe
okay boomer, lol
its not a loop its a spiral yeah of course it is Alan lmfao just hope the combat is better in 3 than in this crap couldn't even be bothered to finish it even on story difficulty what a bore fest absolute waste of money
Elaborate
Cringe
`Alan Wake 2`, terible game design 😬
Very pretentious story telling
You solved it Brianlaudr.
Not for everyone I guess