I Spoke With Gray Zone Warfare Devs... | CEO Apology | AI Changes and the Futrure

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  • Gray Zone Warfare patch was rolled back. I was in a call with Gray Zone Warfare devs. The CEO apologizes and causes drama. AI will be updated and how communication looks going forward.
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  • @CrashGame
    @CrashGame  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I stream fps games at www.twitch.tv/crash8

    • @VGKali
      @VGKali หลายเดือนก่อน

      Typo in the title

  • @Colt-45acp
    @Colt-45acp 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    Everyone makes mistakes, it’s about owning it, learning from it and moving forward. They’ve owned it now hopefully they learn from it and keep trucking. This game has incredible potential.

    • @CyKo176
      @CyKo176 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      100%. I want the game to be good like everybody else. The performance and optimization is brutal though :(

    • @RodneyThomas
      @RodneyThomas 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CyKo176what are your system specs?

  • @deebs11218
    @deebs11218 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I have to agree that people took his comments out of context. He was just being honest and how often do we get that from developers?

    • @doomslayerforever2858
      @doomslayerforever2858 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yup Same as a president like trump but people are clowns

  • @Ringer2191
    @Ringer2191 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Making games is hard. Especially when the Internet is crying about things that aren't even real issues and they're trying to keep us happy.
    What's worse? Correcting a wrong, or wrongly propagating it?

  • @packetcreeper
    @packetcreeper 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I appreciate the honesty from Madfinger Games. I'm 128 hours into GZW and I love it! If you're getting mad about issues or losing gear just remember this is early access. Take a deep breath and realize that these things are to be expected. Give the dev team a break and realize they are working hard to make this experience even better for all of us.

  • @aitvaras5271
    @aitvaras5271 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I don't get why people get worked up about people who want to be honest, who want to be doing the right thing. Positive behaviour should be rewarded, not punished. Even if the wording may not be 100% PR-friendly.

    • @Ringer2191
      @Ringer2191 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's anonymity on the Internet. Not much deeper than that. It's why I dislike "community" in this reference. Give it time, like a year or two, to find gzw's community

    • @mendelganz
      @mendelganz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There will always be people that just like to hate and are fucking entitled little pricks with an Ego so big that a simple comment boils there blood to the core. They already made the rollback so they just get to the next page and stfu and that's it. The Devs don't need to pay attention to this fucking haters. If anyone feels really offended by the CEO apology they need to work things out and man the fuck up.

    • @doomslayerforever2858
      @doomslayerforever2858 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Children

    • @rorypullman
      @rorypullman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Anyone whos worked in customer service can relate to customers being determined to be negative.

    • @aitvaras5271
      @aitvaras5271 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@rorypullman Customer Service is a complicated job, where both the customer and the employee can easily make mistakes.
      In most cases customers call to resolve a problem, so you're in a negative situation from the very beginning and the customer is already frustrated.
      Being on the receiving end of such frustration can be brutal, regardless of how justified it is.

  • @TwoTenthsLeft
    @TwoTenthsLeft 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I lost a bunch of gear to the update and I reported all 3 crashes I encountered. I thought it was on my end and rolled back drivers and tried so much to make it work before angrily giving up. Hopefully they fix it because it sucks losing stuff you had to grind for over performance issues

  • @ThatWasAwesomeYT
    @ThatWasAwesomeYT 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I won't lie, putting the words "we didn't trust our community" in a tweet sounds like a HUGE PR no-no. To me, it's obvious that reverting the hotfix almost immediately shows they do indeed trust their community and want the best for them, but these types of mistakes can kill a game - even if the game is good. Larger Dev teams have a whole department dedicated to this, which does lead them to be souless in a way, but some sort of middle ground should definitely be reached to make sure the community doesn't have these devs at the stake. They don't deserve it, but without careful wording, it'll happen anyways.

    • @CrashGame
      @CrashGame  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      well said

    • @Master_Nate
      @Master_Nate 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I thought this too, when I watched another video that had a screenshot of the tweet he put out. Using the words "we didn't trust our community" is actually insane. The product is in EARLY ACCESS. The entire point of early access is for us to support the game early and report issues / work with the devs to fix their game and make a product that works, before it is fully launched. The whole point is we give you money for an UNFINISHED product and TRUST YOU to turn it into a finished one, while we test it for you. Do they understand this ? Does this dev team that is already asking for our money even know what early access is ? If you don't trust the community / the people that are supporting you, then why should the players / community trust you ? Or continue to support you ? I'm not sure if English isn't their first language or something...but maybe this game / dev team needs an actual social media person to be making posts and updates...because that wording was extremely off. The updates / "hotfixes" have been quick and at least show that they are indeed working on the game...but still...very poor choice of words.

    • @jaz97
      @jaz97 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I think people were reading into it too much. I take it has because they couldn't recreate the issues the people were saying they felt it was fine and not a big issue. which led them to releasing 5.2. Not so much "The community is a bunch of lies, blah blah" lol

    • @VashWildHeart
      @VashWildHeart 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      CEO tend to do that. I mean even look at Nikita, Chris Roberts from Star Citizen. I mean currently they were hiring for a community manager which i thought was interesting. But yeah nonetheless PR no no agreed.

    • @Master_Nate
      @Master_Nate 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jaz97 I guess. But at the same time…is it really surprising that they might not be able to replicate problems that “normal” players are having on their “normal” hardware ? I’m not a game dev, but I assume they’re using much better computers / hardware to develop these games than most of the players that are attempting to play it. Yet even with my RTX 3090, Ryzen 5800x, 32gb of RAM, and a Samsung 980 Pro SSD…this is definitely still one of the worst (maybe actually the absolute worst) running games in my library. I know my CPU might be a bit dated, but I have to assume that a lot of players are using gear that is much more average than mine, and therefore having an even worse experience. Because even with my setup…I think I’m going to be holding off on playing until this has been patched some more. Dropping at the very least 10 FPS (sometimes like 30) when scoping in with an ACOG or anything higher, is just plain awful. I understand it’s early access…but it’s a bit too much / too early for me to enjoy accessing it.

  • @onlinecheatersexposed8491
    @onlinecheatersexposed8491 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    tbh form my side of view, optimization really should be the main focus right now.. ofc game breaking bugs should also have a priority, such as ai keeping aim even after breaking line of sight.. but you said that it will be fixed so that is good.. but the devs really need to fix memory leaks in every single asset they have in game and also server side.. and also fix the damn server crashes that is a somewhat reoccuring event every few hours, maybe due to memory leaks.. but i really hope they do NOT add anymore content, until the game runs smooth and stable, client and server side.. i noticed yesterday when i played, that every thing on map just stood still, heli's coming in and out just froze in place, and 20-30 sec later, server got disconnected..

    • @DatAsianGuy
      @DatAsianGuy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      they have said they will only add content every 6 months in major updates.
      so we will only get bug fixes, performance fixes and maybe at best smaller QOL changes to the game, if they don't change their approach.

  • @NewsAcrossBorders
    @NewsAcrossBorders 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    are they testing the game on low-spec, mid spec, and high spec pc's?

  • @patcaza6166
    @patcaza6166 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    gamers are a tough bunch to please but i wouldnt be surprised to learn that when something like this happens there are bots or commenters with benefits that try to negatively impact the whole situation by throwing oil on the fire
    they goofed and admitted it and rolled back the drop, lets move on, that is all
    good job as usual Crash man, thanks for the heads up ✌

    • @artemiseritu
      @artemiseritu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gamers are an easy bunch to please. Remember, this all started with Pong.

    • @DatAsianGuy
      @DatAsianGuy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@artemiseritu if that were the case every and all games would be a extremely successful.

  • @Killswi7ch_ST
    @Killswi7ch_ST 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I uploaded a video couple hours after 5.2 and noticed exactly what you mentioned. 23GB of vram used then System ram usage rising.
    Also noted was GPU memory clock speed declining along with TBP all while walking through TB.

    • @texaslegendgaming
      @texaslegendgaming 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      One of my biggest issues with this update prior to Marek releasing an apology on X was the fact that all of these memory issues were reported in the testing channel prior to release of the patch. Some of the last post in that chat are of me warning them that if pushed it will break the game. IMO they don't need another line of communication they need to use the one they have more efficiently. That is what I initially read into his comments on X but after watching this video I don't know?

  • @christophertilstra3961
    @christophertilstra3961 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a professional software dev I have total respect for what Madfinger is doing here. While I don't know the specifics of their dev pipeline and the particular issues that caused this bad patch to go out, I can say for sure that modern development is complex and mistakes happen. These folks really seem to be doing great work, and I for one am hyped to see where this game ends up!

  • @ec-norsemanzero-drake7031
    @ec-norsemanzero-drake7031 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well done @Crash… love your perspective as it is right on. Thanks!

  • @PJSO
    @PJSO 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    No wonder no one wants to be a CEO of a dev company. They put out an apology and people make up some conflated theory and now you have to apologise for the apology. Too many crybabies and misinfo

  • @Absurd000
    @Absurd000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think people are blowing it out of proportion with that statement. I honestly am a huge fan of Madfinger's transparency. These situations are very likely to happen to any dev team so what's important is how they deal with it, and how they proceed to make things right. I've been waiting to see how Madfinger would handle a situation like this and after all that has happened, I'm still on board and still intend on purchasing and playing the game. I look farward to seeing where Madfinger takes this game!

    • @doomslayerforever2858
      @doomslayerforever2858 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They always do I lost faith in humanity a long time ago

  • @logannorris2857
    @logannorris2857 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagine how much faster they could push the game with an engaged community. Coul quickly get bugs ironed out so they can focus on new material faster

  • @xxdeja-vuuuxx9820
    @xxdeja-vuuuxx9820 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I lost around 40k worth of gear before I raged quit

  • @HobbyistPCs
    @HobbyistPCs 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Totally anecdotal story here, and tbh I don't know exactly what words were exchanged. But a friend of mine claimed to have issues that prevented him from playing the game. When he tried reporting the issues to the devs, my friend claims that they banned him and told him that he was making it up.
    There are a number of reasons why this story is strange to me, especially considering he's a generally positive guy and has a history of, for example, feeding bug info to DICE over the years with the Battlefield community. However, this whole situation started to make me ask questions as I initially found the idea of catching a ban for simply reporting bugs to be completely absurd... but now I'm over here wondering how the devs are handling feedback over there

  • @bryanBurnsDBOAU
    @bryanBurnsDBOAU 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Crash, I Literally Just spoke about this at the beginning of my twitch stream today. Thank you for voicing it here on TH-cam!

  • @VashTheStampede766
    @VashTheStampede766 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Player response here;
    What version of the game are you (the dev crew) playing?
    I play on the US East servers and with exception to the AI issues and rubber banding it seems to play well enough for me to get my play time enjoyment. But to say they “didn’t trust the players” (the base in which paid for their what could be a great and fun game for time to come) is like a slap in the face like “oh you say you are having problems? That’s odd, we aren’t seeing ANY of the issues mentioned so move along”
    I’m in it for the long haul for this game as long as they don’t pull the plug themselves….

    • @VashTheStampede766
      @VashTheStampede766 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh and my PC Specs are AMD RX 7900xtx and the AMD Ryzen 7 7800x3d with proper corresponding ram/cooling/memory and still have some issues like rubber banding and the random crash at times.

  • @MatthewSzetela
    @MatthewSzetela 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They said that the next patch will be a performance one so there's probably gonna be a lotta fine tuning until that point

  • @kOoN985
    @kOoN985 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As sincere as the apology was, I just can't for the life of me understand why one of the most GLARING and PROMINENT requests in the community was to address performance. And it went ignored? Make it make sense. I mean, it was obvious they were ignoring us about it from jump street because they'd focus on everything BUT performance. Coming out and saying it just adds some extra sting. "Hey, our PTE is live come join," week after week. There's a crash reporting system. Where is this data from our crash reports going? What's being taken from our participation in the PTE's? NOW they ask for help and for us to fill out surveys with our specs? How can we be so sure that they'll trust us? Or do they see their numbers dwindling and all their top streamers and creators are no longer showcasing their game?

    • @doomslayerforever2858
      @doomslayerforever2858 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol you over thinking it

    • @kOoN985
      @kOoN985 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@doomslayerforever2858 I should start working on my apology I guess 🤣

  • @enjojenjoj9278
    @enjojenjoj9278 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Our first priority is performance" devs in 30.04. "We apology for not TRUST our comunnity about performance"......

  • @balthasar7282
    @balthasar7282 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Idk some people spent 100 dollars on this game. If I'm giving someone money for a product, they ask me to tell them If I'm having issues with it, and then they dont believe the responses I give them..thats a huge no for me regardless of the context. All people are asking for at the moment are performance fixes, AI fixes, and the helicopter situation lol. Hopefully they dont make the AI braindead either cause that would honestly be worse. I'm going back to helldivers until this game is fixed 🙌LIBER TEA!

  • @monstarzkg
    @monstarzkg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Why haven't you addressed the mass controller ban issue? Could you please communicate with the developers and request them to address this pressing concern, given that you have a direct line of contact with them? This issue is critical and affects a significant portion of the community, so it needs prompt attention and resolution.

  • @Red05200
    @Red05200 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this news are dope lol im glad i find you in yt xD

  • @JustJoshinYouBro
    @JustJoshinYouBro 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The game is so amazing, I just hope they don't give up and keep moving forward with it. I can't wait to see what this flower blossoms into.

  • @Darkdiver28
    @Darkdiver28 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    People need to chill out. Devs are getting bombarded by dumb comments and criticisms and drowns out the constructive ones. You cant blame the devs solely because of this.

  • @eszrah5129
    @eszrah5129 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The same people blowing what he said out of proportion are the same kind of people saying that the AI sniped them at 500m hip firing. The reality of those people is they embellish what happened and are more likely to be 50m and in the open missing 20 shots on target. I don't blame him he saying they didn't trust what everyone is saying, if you cant recreate a bug you have to wonder if its someone telling the truth or someone bullshitting because they are mad they died.

    • @shane5923
      @shane5923 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yup, there are thousands of moronic engagement farming trolls out there posting the same idiotic nonsense over and over "dead game" blah blah. Probably hard to parse out what's real among all the immature dumbassery.

    • @DatAsianGuy
      @DatAsianGuy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, even some people in the comments here just gleefully ignore the part where he said that they couldn't replicate the issues.
      And if you can't replicate the issues, then you gotta question if the is issue is on their end or not.
      and after releasing it to everyone, they now have complete confirmation "okay, it was us, let's roll it back"

  • @smokeweedeveryday9099
    @smokeweedeveryday9099 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video man… I’m glad they apologized. Means they listen and learn. I’m good with that. This games potential is worth it.

  • @sandman900rr
    @sandman900rr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ANYONE that gets upset about "LOOSING" stuff in a Video Game needs counseling......... It's mother fffin pixels in an imaginary world, get over it. play the game and get them 100 times again.

  • @joeshmoe7485
    @joeshmoe7485 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I don't have a huge problem with the CEO's comment. It was poorly worded, sure. A PR person fluent in English could have probably worded it better. They are a Czech company and English is probably not his first language. I interpreted it to mean, we didn't trust the community reports of issues. Maybe the community reports were not totally reliable or largely anecdotal. I would not burn Madfinger down over this. It just seems like an honest, yet poorly worded, comment from the Madfinger CEO. I'm not bothered by it, Madfing should just keepo up the good work and not get drawn in to twitter drama.

    • @DatAsianGuy
      @DatAsianGuy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yeah, he said they couldn't replicate the issue and let's be real for a minute.
      how many of the reports were actually "useful" per se?
      How many of them could actually give a step by step guide to replicate the issues.

  • @mfgCarlos
    @mfgCarlos 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    more usage of ram i noticed too, but i have 8gb vram and 64gb ram, ram was never full. but ram is slower than vram, maybe this caused the fps problems on my machine

  • @sigis72
    @sigis72 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is said: “When you make a mistake, never hesitate to correct it.” A wrongdoing can be rectified immediately if you are quick to address the problem. It will look worse if you try to cover it up, and you will suffer more. - YAMAMOTO TSUNETOMO from "Hagakure" the book of Samurai

  • @HardBassFeZ
    @HardBassFeZ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If they really pay attention to your channel and our feedback then, hear me out:
    1. I’ve been a victim of mad fingers in the past when I played SGDZ, this is their time to shine and be on top of the gaming world, all they need todo is to LASER FOCUS on the game’s OPTIMIZATION, frames are not going smooth in an i7 12600 kf and RTX 4070 (my brand new computer,every game runs in epic with decent FPS), this means optimization has room for improvement.
    Performance issues get works when being at tiger bay which is my favorite place to play since there is SO much action, I’m a try hard, you made me like this since SGDZ.
    2. Once done that, then please work on IA, it behaves way too stupidly sometimes, the accuracy and randomness for headshot is a feature that drives You crazy, I don’t care about their intense attacking me, I just don’t want to die for random headshots,(yes it may happen IRL) but some bots are using red dots and headshot You behind rocks!
    3. I don’t care about content for now, all I want is a game that works properly, if you continue focusing on monetizing by content, you will stop paying attention to fundamental errors that exist from the game’s birth, so polish your game, because arena break out is an immediate option for plenty of players ( and of course tarkov even with their cheaters)
    Crouching and slow walking are features that should work better against AI, about these features in PVP, slow walking needs to be improved to be heard in the open field, one can hear the footsteps inside buildings but not when you are in an open space with vegetation around, sometimes vegetation won’t even make a noise when a player moves ( sometimes bots approach you from the back without making a single noise!)
    5. Common bugs that are being exploited (duplicate keys, duplicate cash and so on)
    6. If a player joined the wrong faction, he should be able to switch factions every new season (or 6 months if you haven’t established that, or by reaching out to the help and support team)

    • @MansterBear
      @MansterBear 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yea. People wanting "more high value items" "more reasons to loot" etc. Like, yea i get it. That would be nice. But I want mid range PCs to be able to have a good looking game at 60fps with minimal crashes before I worry about getting golden lions and GPUs.
      That stuff will come, but it makes no sense to put it into a game that half the players have regular crashes and will lose anyway.
      That being said I have a mid-low PC (Ryzen 5700x / 5700XT). I can run the game, but I do get crashes frequently. Sometimes I'll play for 2 hours perfectly fine. Other times, like last night, I got on, flew to HP (from Crimson, so like 5 min flight). Got off the heli and game crashed.
      Came back and it let me keep my gear luckily.
      Flew back, started making my way through HP, game crashed again while in a shootout. When I reloaded I was in base with no gear. Not a biggie, I just played something else, but I want stuff like that fixed before they start worrying about cooler / more valuable items that people are complaining about.

    • @DatAsianGuy
      @DatAsianGuy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MansterBear yeah, the games optimization is the most important aspect right now.
      it doesn't have to be perfect, but I want to be able to play with somewhat stable 60FPS@1080p on my 4060 Ti without needing to resort to frame generation to make up for it.
      DLSS is fine, but Frame generation imo leads to a big of a sluggish feeling sometimes.

  • @MansterBear
    @MansterBear 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The more I hear from the devs, the more I like them.
    People will complain no matter what.
    You have a small dev putting out more updates/patches than large firms, being open and more transparent, etc and theyre still complaining.
    A normal dev would have left the bad patch and the only response you would get would be some code to go to a website and "learn more" that tells you nothing.
    You get an honest dev and pick out some words to get triggered by? Just appreciate how cool this game is, and what it will be, and chill a little in the mean time.

  • @Sn4p_Fps
    @Sn4p_Fps 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sure they test whit a 4090 and didn’t notice any fps drops or increase vram usage , they have to test whit 2 different gpu at least before dropping updates , I mean understanding from errors too , why the performance decreased and the vram and ram increased ? I test it and have always msi afterburner on .

  • @DutchElite33
    @DutchElite33 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    first thing. fps drops and Graphics settings. im trying everything but also every update it change...WHY.

  • @tompotter3259
    @tompotter3259 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My issue is they only ever communicate through content creators and only the ones that are overly positive about the game, and I don't think they would have done any better selling pre-orders because most people in my friends group saw the streamer only beta as a huge red flag (in hind-sight a correct observance). There are literally not near enough Graphical adjustments in the game and the ones there are speaking for myself do not do anything, get the same blurry mess on epic or low and only minimal difference in FPS.

    • @doomslayerforever2858
      @doomslayerforever2858 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My 3070 isn't blurry ur pc sucks

    • @tompotter3259
      @tompotter3259 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@doomslayerforever2858 of course it does brainiac.

    • @kOoN985
      @kOoN985 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@tompotter3259Ignore him, he's dropping in and trolling on everyone's comments.

  • @Star_cab
    @Star_cab 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Informative video crash, you know if the dev's plan to add taxis (APCS ,HUMVEES ,river boats, or even tuk tuk's) to alleviate some of this congestion of that FOB or other locations?

  • @MrSackeyko
    @MrSackeyko 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love the game, but I took a break before the patch. Mostly because I'm the only one of my friends with a powerful enough system to play.

    • @MansterBear
      @MansterBear 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yea. I'd love to play this with my brother, we have basically the same build that we built in 2017 with a few upgrades. But my Ryzen 1600 just couldn't play this.
      I went and got a 5700x and can play it on low settings now, and it's been great I've put 50+ hours in. But didnt want to spend the money on a CPU so I basically play Solo all the time except for the instances where I end up in the same place / same time as other players and we work together for a run.

  • @teddyshinobi
    @teddyshinobi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I get the dev's not wanting back lash. However, I DO NOT think people are overreacting to their statement about trusting the community.
    "Trust" is a pretty strong word about belief in the reliability and truthfulness of something. To say you don't trust your community/customers when it comes to the quality of your product is not a good look.
    And, regarding the fact that a lot of GZW players are Tarkov refugees because of how poorly Battlestate Games and Nikita treated them, to come out and say "we didn't trust you" doesn't help.
    The good thing is that they've acknowledged it wasn't a good look and that they want to change that going forward. We will have to see how the next hotfix performs because if they take too long to address issues than that acknowledgement doesn't really mean much.
    My message that I hope Madfinger Games takes from this, "Don't become Battlestate Games. Nikita should be an example of what NOT to do. Fix your shit and trust your customers or you will fail".

    • @DatAsianGuy
      @DatAsianGuy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it clearly is overreacting, just look at a negative comments here alone?
      The majority of them just leave out the very reasonably explanation from Marek that they couldn't replicate the issues at all.
      And with performance being dogshit in general, it would be easy to believe that they either are having a placebo effect or are simply encountering an already existing performance issue.
      Like I get being mad that the devs didn't "trust" us, but let's be honest... most gamers are absolute dipshits who often times behave like armchair developers, thinking they know what the game needs to be fixed.

  • @shane5923
    @shane5923 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My thought is that people are having a little bit too much emotional capital invested in a game. I don't understand people getting so extremely twisted about a bad patch. They fixed it the next day. They didn't leave it broken for a month like other companies do *cough craptivision* The incredible potential of this game is still there. I'm still on board.

    • @MansterBear
      @MansterBear 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yea. Everyone else would have had a error code to go search on a website that tells you nothing about the error... and it would have been that way until the next "regularly scheduled patch" hits in a month or so lol
      People complaining about this have no perspective

  • @milanmottl8983
    @milanmottl8983 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't think the CEO meant it like they do not trust the community period but they don't trusted the community about the FPS issue in that hotfix as there is a big FPS problem and they though it's just that and not something else, something new the hotfix did. Keep in mind English is not their first language, they are Czech so it might be just badly worded of what he meant and didn't specify it enough about what they did not trust the community about.

  • @grovestreetbarz9938
    @grovestreetbarz9938 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    bro, of course they cant reproduce it on their end. they dont have mid tier PC's like some of us do....get some mid tier and low tier PC's to test your game on..... Musicians dont just slap sounds together and put it out there. We play it on Subs, Studio monitors, tweeters, Car systems (good and bad), Stereo speakers, mono speakers, stereo mono speakers, Tv speakers, headphones, ear buds and we mix it til theres an even medium between all of them. Games should be no different

    • @DatAsianGuy
      @DatAsianGuy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you actually think game devs don't buy low to mid pc hardware to run benchmarks? What?
      Sure, maybe smaller studios, but MFG are relatively big enough to afford it.

  • @SoleVegas
    @SoleVegas 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The gaming community is all over the place so weeding that out is indeed difficult. On my end the game was much better so you are correct, it’s complicated.

  • @sefin84
    @sefin84 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    uninstalled and will check it out around Xmass. To me it has so many issues, that I cant be bothered at the moment. But I hope it will be a great game after polishing and some major changes.

  • @ryanchuah
    @ryanchuah 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a good thing. They learnt their lesson. And they apologised. Come on, how many dev actually do things the way they did? Plus, the test was for other issue, so the form are not toward performance and other issue that may arise. So I guess most of us tester didn't submit forms? But alot of us did put in testing chat.

    • @FrAsSBrAsS
      @FrAsSBrAsS 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      they learn nothing ... they learn how to get millions with a pre-alpha a kid can make in 2 week with assets

  • @scotthammond6589
    @scotthammond6589 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ive been getting 90-144 fps on high/epic settings. rtx 4070. so ive not noticed performance issues.. rather network issues.
    I can only imagine this is an issue for those with low end PC's using a 3060 series or equivilent.

    • @MansterBear
      @MansterBear 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have a 5700XT (2070 equivalent). The game is playable. I do frame gen to smooth it out, which isn't great but I've still had a blast for 50+ hours and more to come.
      I did have to upgrade my CPU (been running a Ryzen 1600 since 2017). Got a 5700x.
      Although this game has tempted me to upgrade the GPU also... lol

  • @cjgsicknote
    @cjgsicknote 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Most of the nonsense I've read from "the community" would make me not trust them either tbh!. Some people can't seem to give quality feedback without ranting and raving. So much of it is just utter crap. Some of it reads like actual propaganda against the game. All of it sounds like the Internet today.

  • @bryanromito7986
    @bryanromito7986 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there any talks or rumors about working on a console version yet? Or do you think that will be years away or never coming?

  • @chapinuno9051
    @chapinuno9051 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I keep crashing even at low settings!

  • @OldmavericWoW
    @OldmavericWoW 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t understand why people want to see games fail. Nothing good comes from a failure, good things come from a successful game.

  • @johnwicks4936
    @johnwicks4936 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I suggest they hire the Modders that make the SAIN AI for SPT. They are the best I’ve seen in a game. I don’t understand why people buy an EA game and think they are supposed to get hundreds of hours of enjoyment out of it. EA games are meant to be tested, report bugs, give suggestions and move on until the next update. They aren’t meant to be your daily driver game. That’s full release unless they are games in EA for literally years.

    • @MansterBear
      @MansterBear 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not to mention people are getting hundreds or hours out of it. They play for 200 hours than make a video about how the game is boring and they want more content lol
      Most full games dont have 200 hours of stuff to do before getting "bored", let alone an early access, pre alpha game.

  • @outlaw30k37
    @outlaw30k37 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    they are a small studio that normally does mobile game this is there first pc game that a big step up so for them to make mistakes is common.

  • @RoccoMapua
    @RoccoMapua 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    While I enjoy the game and fully support the developers. I have uninstalled it. It will probably be that way until the AI is fixed. I find it a bit absurd when the AI using AKs and PS ammo can 1-shot you through a Level III+ vest, yet sometimes take full magazines of the stuff to go down while wearing a IIIA commander vest. Or like how the AI sit there, perfectly still until they spot you or you shoot even just a single shot at them, and then they instantly know where you are, even if you are 300 meters out, prone, in foliage.
    Grenade range also seems strangely super short even if the description on the grenade I was using says they are dangerous up to 30 meters. It also seems like they are immune to flashbangs.

  • @rq4793
    @rq4793 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the game, so please be patient, It will be like cyberpunk where at the end has a happy ending. they will make this game so much beautiful.

  • @christoph4977
    @christoph4977 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never forget: people, on average, are just dumb. Reading all the negatives from such a positive post ...holy cow

  • @luciano12sa
    @luciano12sa 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Takes some balls to say "we didn't trust you guys" to your playerbase. But I get where they're coming from, most complaints are just not useful feedback, and people don't feel like they are signing up to help the developers. But in the end this is their game and their responsibility to find a solution for.

  • @Sugab0mb
    @Sugab0mb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Devs want feedback get feedback and think we are lying just b.c they can't confirm or deny on there end? What's the point of testing these things? What was the percentage of people saying it was broke?

  • @Lib3ration
    @Lib3ration 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    TRUST NO ONE!!!! XD Mistakes happen, lets forgive and forget

  • @WILMANGO681
    @WILMANGO681 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The game may not be in a very good state rn, but it is very fun this game has insane potential and if they succeed then this game will blow up!

  • @hannibalwrecktor5506
    @hannibalwrecktor5506 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Eh, changing the words he said, and slapping that on a thumbnail changes the context and makes this click baity... which is the same dynamic you talk about people shouldnt do in your video.
    You dont have to do things like that my guy to get people to watch your videos IMO. That click baity stuff is beneath you, you have hugher quality videos than that my guy.
    My .02

    • @FrAsSBrAsS
      @FrAsSBrAsS 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the guy think he is something important between players and devs.... we dont need you to see clearly.. we have been lie to and this game is trash.. yes it as potential but even my fresh shit in the toilet have some potential...stupid streamers thats all

  • @dustin0133
    @dustin0133 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Respect ya crash but this was a big nothing burger lol

    • @CrashGame
      @CrashGame  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😥

  • @Geezus_bred
    @Geezus_bred 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ima just let them do their thing with GWZ Very keen for future patches ect

  • @Slickwillie121
    @Slickwillie121 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We probably have 3/4 of country that are not able to count money back. You really think they’ll have reading and comprehension skills?

  • @rreno496
    @rreno496 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nothing to be taken out of context, he outright stated "we didn't trust our community". Doesn't matter if mistakes were made that led to the problem, that has nothing to do with the community. I'm not bashing them, but I'm also not giving them a free pass. In this case a bad statement was made and that's that. How they act moving forward with regards to community feedback is the litmus test I'll judge them by.
    I love the game, and I look forward to the improvements I have no doubt will come with time, I just won't white knight for them and give them a pass when they drop the ball.

  • @whiffboy
    @whiffboy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd be curious to know what spec PC's people are using to run this game. I have a 5600x/32gb/6750xt12gb@1080p/60fps locked.
    Runs fine. Haven't had a crash ever. Servers used to drop in the initial release, but since the first patch the oceanic servers have been solid.
    My main complaint (apart from the AI) is the ram leak. The game continues to run after exiting and just maxes out my ram. I have to force quit from task manager.

    • @clalam5241
      @clalam5241 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      7900xt , 13700k , 32 gb ram @1440 locked at 100fps . Still getting a crash every other time I hop on the heli

  • @justinz830
    @justinz830 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    AI's dome me from 200 yds still , if i dont move- within seeing them at 3 seconds

  • @P5YKOTIK1870
    @P5YKOTIK1870 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I thought the AI has been a lot better, IDK maybe I'm getting better (wishful thinking) but they seem a lot easier to deal with. I haven't been 1 shot in probably over a week and I play every day usually 2-4hrs. Haven't been back to Tiger bay yet but ban pa, blue lagoon and sawmill a lot lately. Maybe it's because I don't crouch anymore either. IDK, when the game first came out I was getting 1 tapped quite a few times a day but nothing lately, could just be luck too I guess

  • @MoustacheMedic
    @MoustacheMedic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why use a photoshopped tweet. The actual post/ statement makes sense because they couldn't replicate the issues on their end, it's not just a "we don't trust you" matter, it's a "we tried to replicate the issues and couldn't so we dismissed it" thing. Which is understandable.

  • @BDesignCRX
    @BDesignCRX 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey, it happens. But trust in the community, even if it feels funny, just test it and see if we right.
    I love this game, since i started playing this never came back to Tarkov.

  • @fastforward3695
    @fastforward3695 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Keep up the good work man!

  • @VGKali
    @VGKali หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please tell them to fix the ai shooting u from the hip at a distance and hitting u cause the ai shots are impossible

  • @aeiou9755
    @aeiou9755 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And streeeeetch a video with smal info and repeat and repeat 😊

  • @MarcinP2
    @MarcinP2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How does one get the test client?

  • @TTVBunnyDougie
    @TTVBunnyDougie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This game is a fucking masterpiece.
    I said what I said..
    These Devs are open, have solid communication, and a great vision!
    Not to mention, this community kicks sooooo much ass. I have yet to run into a salty/rude player in my 150+ hours.

  • @EricTheBroBean
    @EricTheBroBean 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "we didn't trust our community", and "we will always trust our community from now on".
    That speaks volumes.
    How can we trust that they trust the community from now on, when they didn't trust us in the first place?
    My steam review is negative, and its gonna stay that way until we get MASSIVE changes to the game in pretty much every aspect, I don't care how much "potential" it got, even a roll of toiletpaper has potential.

    • @gooseking0420
      @gooseking0420 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The community management is wild too. The last update before rollback created a replicatable blue screen on launch. I've since fixed it by reinstalling, but while on Discord to try and find a solution through other users who might have the same issue I saw:
      A mod ban over 5 people for questioning his very questionable statement regarding player bans vs. Testing servers. They claim the bans were from automatically collected data
      But in the same chain, they said they can't collect player data from the test servers automatically. One of these statements has to be incorrect, but, if you mention it, you get banned, your roommate gets banned for pointing out they got banned, and we all get timed out for saying how wild of a power trip dude was having just willy nilly banning people for nothing against the rules. I had chats open with both people he banned. It's not one guy, but he is adamant it was an alt and we can all go screw, 2 supporter edition players are permabanned from the Discord and with no reason other than "I don't like him and I think it's his alt on this other one, because he certainly can't have friends because I don't like him."
      I tried to help another community member with an issue and was immediately insulted by said member. I just dismissed trying to help with mild snark.
      My retaliation was seen as just as bad as blatantly being a jerk after asking for help. So we both get time outs when all I said was a non-explicit approximation of "do it yourself then, if that's how it's gonna be."
      I'm just as bad and get publically blasted by a mod for it
      A mod that removed 3 minutes of me trying to help this dude anyways in chat logs
      Just the guy insulting me and me finally giving up on him as proof of my "rudeness" to mute me for. It's literally just one dude ruining their discord.
      This isn't our game or community. It's Gus's, and we're just funding it.

  • @pleasant8557
    @pleasant8557 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have lost faith in Madfinger. In their current state they can't properly develop the game. Hopefully they can hire some competent devs. But it's not looking very promising.

  • @OgOssman
    @OgOssman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im someone who had issues id be willing to test for them.

  • @hanzyg5920
    @hanzyg5920 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As long as we dont lose money in game im happy,but some ai is just too good

  • @yarincool1237
    @yarincool1237 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    they need to fix the horrible TAA of this game asap, game is so blurry and pixelated it hurts my eyes and spotting is impossible.

    • @evandowel1975
      @evandowel1975 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Turn off DLSS or any AI generated AA and use TSR, personally I have mine at 77 and AA off with a gtx 3070, it’s not a cpu heavy game whatsoever but my cpu is an intel i9 10850k

    • @yarincool1237
      @yarincool1237 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@evandowel1975 I did, native 1440p with a 4070ti, it has nothing to do with settings or hardware its their forced TAA rendering teqnique.

  • @falcon88h
    @falcon88h 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    People are mad cause their high expectations, can't match with a game that is not finished. Imho park it for 6 months and come back later.
    Maby therefore the gaming industrie should stop using Early acces releases. just let people wait 7 years again, until a game is realy done. And let them buy the games again on a DVD disc. just like the old days😄

  • @xsykedelix3766
    @xsykedelix3766 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i think alot of complaints are from people with older computers sadly ;(

  • @christopherbeyer1263
    @christopherbeyer1263 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Futrure huh?

  • @JohnNorse
    @JohnNorse 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hope they get it working right, the game is not for me but i hope they succed

  • @MrWestinho
    @MrWestinho 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I dont understand why people hate because they have lost their gear 🤔 Almost everybody has got like too much cash in their wallets 😂 They hate everything from scratch 😅

  • @TheCrimson173
    @TheCrimson173 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    eh, I'll revisit the game in 9 to 12 months as I have other things to do as well

  • @BlackRoshiKingOfSF6
    @BlackRoshiKingOfSF6 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why are they wiping the game i need to know will we lose our rank and start over

  • @sativa2050
    @sativa2050 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    IVE GOT 64GB OF RAM! It can use all the ram it wants 😂

  • @DukesUp1
    @DukesUp1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The futrure!

  • @MikeSoutham
    @MikeSoutham 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just do some optimisation on the game. FFS.... this game is frying CPU's.

  • @MeoithTheSecond
    @MeoithTheSecond 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had no issue with the first comment, a certain percentage of the playerbase behave like hysterical children, its efn embarrassing.

  • @OgOssman
    @OgOssman 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey im happy i can play agajn.

  • @Schpoo
    @Schpoo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    First! (After Crash)

  • @Scrappy45
    @Scrappy45 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shouldn't have rolled it back at least ai were better and a lotta good rigs lost 10-20fps the kids who the 3040 losing frames were half the complaints (not saying that those people shouldn't be a to play but if a small period of early access feels bad for them so everyone can actually fight ai so be it) everyone on a 40 series card saw it as a w barely lost frames and ai were good others lost significant frames but appreciated the ai changes they could've left it and worked on the frames well ai r bearable

  • @pyeitme508
    @pyeitme508 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    OOF

  • @PredatorX_2
    @PredatorX_2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i would love to help you test the game, I have over 200 hours played, small tiktok streamer 10.6k followers.

  • @JaCKal_646f67
    @JaCKal_646f67 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the game almost died because of their neglegence