How on earth does this have 1k views now? Well regardless, thank you all for watching the video! I will say though, if you subscribed for more Deltarune/Undertale content, I might be a bit thin on that. Sorry. Its a bit difficult to come up with a good number of ideas, but I'll try to keep brainstorming! If you have any suggestions of your own, let me know! Thanks!
13:20 given that Queen shows us a pie, identical to Berdly's, and tells us it's a "Battery Acid Pie", I think it is one. Given Berdly, though, it is now my headcanon that he just... added Mt Dew to it and called it a gamer's delight. Thanks for that, I love it
It doesn't seem like too many people realize that Berdly's spelling bee arc, is actually more focused on Noelle in a way. She failed the spelling bee because the name of her sister December, or "Dess" who passed away, came up as a word in the spelling bee. Which is why you help her spell December before reaching Queen's Mansion. Infact, remember how Chapter 1 was loosely based around Susie opening up? It's the same thing here with Noelle. If you pay attention to the details and parallel metaphors between the Light and Dark world, it becomes clear that Chapter 2 was her character arc. Berdly was just explaining why he feels pressure to be smart. For all we know, there's more we don't know about him. We don't even know where he lives, for one. Either way, great video. Just thought I'd share some knowledge!
That's something I didn't really think about until yesterday I think? I'll admit I'm a bit slow when it comes to details like that lol. I did notice the December thing beforehand which made me feel worse for Noelle, but yeah that whole thing was focused more so on Noelle than Berdly. And yeah I see your point about the parallels, I get the feeling the future chapters might continue with that, with Toriel potentially being next on the list? That is, assuming she'll become a party member. Anyway, it's just kind of a shame Berdly didn't get much more than that little cutscene. Maybe he'll have some more spotlight in a future chapter, but on one hand I kind of doubt it given Snowgrave. It just makes me think Berdly won't have much of a presence in future chapters regardless of which route you take, but I could always end up being wrong. I'm rambling though lol, thanks for the info!
@@Wyrlwind It took me awhile to find that out aswell honestly. It's crazy how much we have left to find out about this world! Yeah, mainly the parallel I was thinking of was Noelle's Mom and Queen. You can tell by the end Noelle really stands up to Queen for trying to assume she knows what's best for her. And with Noelle's Dad in the hospital that feeling as probably been amplified and came out in the dark world as a way get over that lack of control she's had in her life (presumably). There are so many layers to this story, it's so well done. Yeah totally! And also Undyne might be there aswell right? Toriel did call the police. I wouldn't be surprised if she gets sucked in sometime after Kris opens the dark world. And you're right, there's a good chance that's it for Berdly. And I can't deny that at least at first glance Berdly's "arc" had kinda lame presentation than what were used too unfortunately. But who knows? Maybe it's all intentional. Thanks for the reply, it's surprisingly fun discussing Toby's work in environments like this. You got a cool thing going on this channel!
@@Cinder36 I wouldn't be surprised if Undyne shows up. I imagine she'd arrive at their house to check Toriel's car, find their door is opened (because Kris opened it), then she falls in. And yeah I love discussing Deltarune, this vid was kind of just the culmination of a lot of stuff I've wanted to talk with people about but haven't had a chance to, so I'm glad people are discussing it in the comments too!
Great video, great script. One thing I’ll just mention is some behind the scenes stuff. Toby Fox mostly made Undertale and Ch 1 on his own with some drawings from others. Ch 2 was made with a full team and had the support of others. Mostly, all of the growth and improvements came from Toby not having to build a full game on his own.
Thank you! I should've mentioned that in the video honestly but the thought never crossed my mind. But yeah, I'm sure having a team has helped a ton with his growth in game development. I'm really glad it seems to be working out for him so far, Deltarune is shaping up to be my favorite game currently lol.
Also the card enemies were made from an artist for a class assignment, not made as game characters. Thats prob why they were not the coolest looking enemies
Deltarune’s combat is incredible, but I would really love to see them add more spells. (or more permanent party members, either one works) Like, Dual Heal and Fluffy Guard would be great to have all the time, but you just can’t for some reason. Maybe a party member that uses buffs or status conditions would be cool too.
Toriel might become a party member in Chapter 3, well at least judging by the ending of Chapter 2 she could. She could be a fitting character to fill in a supporting role on the team. And yea I think would be cool if there were more spells, but having dual heal and fluffy guard all the time might make the game too easy. I'm sure they could think of other spells to add in though
There is basically no way that Kris is the knight, because we know that the knight created the computer lab fountain, and we know Kris couldn't have for two reasons: First, Noelle and Berdly are already sitting down with their books open on the table in front of them, implying the fountain was created *after* they both were in the computer room. The only argument against this I've heard or can think of is that the books weren't there and open at first, but the dark world somehow affected the light world, opening the book and placing them on the table right in front of where Noelle and Berdly "wake up." However, Noelle believes that the whole dark world was a dream and that they fell asleep while studying, and still believed it after she "woke up." If she "woke up" at the table and didn't even remember sitting down there to start work, she surely would have thought that was suspicious, no? Therefore, the dark world appeared after they got there, which was after the start of chapter two, and we saw Kris at all points from then until they discovered the dark world, so Kris couldn't have opened it. Second, as shown each time Kris takes out their soul, they can barely even walk without that soul. However, to open the computer lab fountain, they would have had to: Leave the house unnoticed, walk all the way across town, break into the library without leaving a trace, create a dark fountain, get back out of the library, (again, without leaving a trace,) walk all the way across town *again*, then go to bed, all when they struggle to even walk. This comment ended up being _way_ longer than I thought it would be lol
I mean, one could argue that Kris and Susie shouldn't have been able to show up on the floor of the unused classroom then. There's no real way anyone could have snuck in while Berdly and Noelle were studying and have opened a fountain, I assume they simply just fell into the dark world, not understanding why the room was so dark. Regardless, I don't know whether or not I really think that Kris is the knight. It's certainly possible since they know how to open a dark fountain, but as another comment mentioned, Kris may have only learned how to open fountains after Queen mentioned it in Chapter 2. Whenever I said Kris is presumably the knight in the video, it was more of a quick assumption than what I actually thought if I'm being honest.
Another detail i haven't seen anyone talk about: When you meet Ralsei at the Cyber World, he says "I sensed a dark presence", so Ralsei can sense the fountains. Whether you believe Ralsei is evil or not, it's undeniable that he wants to seal the fountains, so if there was a dark fountain in the library since the beggining of the chapter, Ralsei would've mentioned it
Did you know that if you chose any dialogue that Susie has in the Ferris wheel dream with Noelle, it will lead to the same dialogue? I think it's because Kris is just _wondering_ about it. I'm surprised that no one talks about it though. I just realized the Deltarune OST: 5 - The Door sounds like Hell's Kitchen Dramatic Sound (Waterphone) - Sound Effect but slower. Also, no one noticed this.
im pretty sure the fact that the dialogue doesnt change is just because we don't have control of Susie. Whenever we try to choose things for Susie, i.e. the prison in chapter 1 and the party split in chapter 2, she just picks stuff for herself.
I really really like your take on this video and how honest you were with your feelings towards things like the battle system and the story, to name a few things. You did this review justice, and while I don't have any complaints here, I would have been willing to hear you talk more about Spamton since he's very involved in Chapter 2 and appears to have a lot of importance. Though I do know you brought up how adding more to this review would have made it a lot longer, which is very understandable^ Y'know if you end up actually making a video about deltarune theories and lore, I will be willing to watch that video because it's something I would be interested in watching.
Thank you so much! Yeah it didn't occur to me until sometime after I got done scripting this video that I didn't really talk about Spamton in the review, but unfortunately I couldn't figure out any way to fit him into the script without it seeming kind of forced in. I'd really like to talk about Spamton more though, whether that be in the potential theories/lore vid or something else entirely. Just gotta whip up some ideas lol, but thank you for the feedback!
@@Wyrlwind yeah I had a feeling it may have proven difficult to add more spamton into this video, so no worried friend^^ I still look forward to your next deltarune-related videos and I should really open up to more of your content^
This is a fun video to see a random persons thoughts, also appreciate the fixing Kris's pronouns. I feel like Kris being the knight is still a theory/arguable thing, sounds super cool honestly and I can't wait for chapter 3. The reason chapter 2 took years is Toby said he has a bigger team but now he has to take extra time to clearly communicate his visions and ideas to the whole team! Kinda disappointed you didn't cover Spamton more, he's a super cool and cute character and interesting how every chapter has a character like Jevil and Spamton, can't wait to get his merch
Yeah I'll admit the Kris being the knight thing is still guesswork, Toby could be pulling the wool over our eyes with Chapter 2's ending and just making us think Kris is the knight. And I would have covered Spamton more, though I didn't think about it until well after I had finished the script, so I couldn't figure out how to fit him in there. Maybe I could make a separate video talking about some of the stuff I missed lol, Idk.
@@Wyrlwind Why kris most likely made fountain: ralsei + lancer are in dark world and in light world are inanimate objects Susie asks "wouldnt it be nice if ralsei and lancer could come over" Making a dark fountain in the light world, despite ralseis warnings and stuff abt multiple, would probably make kris think ralsei and lancer would be in the light world Also king doesnt recognize kris as the knight And queens dark fountain is made before we even get to the library
Honestly, when Deltarune first came out I wasn’t interested at all because I thought there was know way it could be as good as Undertale. Eventually when my friend came over I played it with her, and I really liked it. I’m more obsessed with this game than Undertale lol
Berdly is probably one of the most funny characters in the game, up there with queen and lancer. people hate him because of how hes annoying, but a lot of the funny chapter two jokes actually revolve around him, like “I only play mobile games” or “ or give me bad ideas for smartboy theme park”. I also find it pretty funny how he switches from trying to act smart to immediately being stupid after his little cutscene
Berdley was the driving force of the comedy and toby actually managed to give him a story people could relate while never excusing his behavior. Like people still found him annoying but he became pretty understandable in the end imo.
i really like Berdlys back story. not because its good for him. but it gives more interest in Noelle's backstory. its prefect for his character. even in his own backstory he's taking second place. if you don't know why i will say below. Noelle freezes on the word December, that's also the same word that is spelled out when your going through the alley. its pretty clear that Noelle had a sister who is no longer in the picture for one reason or another. this character is always referred to as Dess. given their family's whole theme its not hard to guess that Dess's full name was December. so Noelle freezing on saying their name shows not only that whatever happened with Dess was most likely pretty bad. but it also shows that it happened when they were rather young, considering Noelle's age during the spelling bee and the stories implying there wasn't a massive age gap. maybe about the same age gap as between Kris and Asriel. meaning its not as simple as Dess moving away or going to collage. so thanks Berdly. I know you were trying to get us to sympathies with you but you failed. added to Noelle's backstory though so good job anyway.
Yeah that's why I'm hoping we get to see more of Berdly and Noelle in a future chapter/chapters. I'm sure we'll see them both in the game again though. Well mainly Noelle just because I wanna hear more about her background lol
@@Wyrlwind would be a massive mistake for them to not give us more on Noelle. also it seems unlikely. there are still questions. and it seems unlikely that Berdly will have much of a presence in future chapters. for... reasons...
@@joshuaperry7323 I think Berdly would join the party in a later chapter. And if you kill him, the game would throw things at you to say “You killed Berdly so he isn’t here at this moment where he would have said something about this.” Or “Berdly would have done something else here.” From a deltarune chess theory video, they said Halberds are useful against knights. That makes me think Berdly would develop a lot as a character, and then that would help tremendously later on against the knight. Alternatively, if we kill him, it will make the fight against the knight much harder. Berdly has shown to be capable in chapter 2, as he saved our asses against Giga Queen. A glimpse of this development could be in the unfortunate snowgrave route. Where he takes a situation seriously for once and drops the ego feeding languages. So while his growth kind of accelarates but is stopped by his death Snowgrave, it’s more gradual in the main route.
@@joshuaperry7323 i disagree, berdly's clearly going to appear more I mean, you don't see undyne not being important in undertale just cause you can kill her
@@Mqstodon that's fair. though Undyne mainly appears in the pacifist route afterwards. not much in the neutral and definitely not in genocide. but toby said there is only going to be one route in delta rune. so while he might show up he probably wont have a massive role. or rather one ending. so i guess the route could be a little different.
I have kinda hard relation with Undertale, one day i like it, one day i don't But Deltarune, man, I love sooo much about it. I love how it has those secret bosses, which are kinda like Touhou Project's Extra Stage bosses, and they are already amazing. Come to think of it, I can draw a lot of comparision between Deltarune and Touhou, and trust me, me comparing them is a compliment for Deltarune. But it's not about Touhou, it's Deltarune. Deltarune chapter 2 came in in a weird moment of this year for me, where all i did was playing Spore and Sonic Adventure 2 with no emotions, just empty gaming sessions. And this game kinda motivated me to move my butt and start actually drawing. I drew a lot of Spamton, I drew some crossover art that are interactions of 4 very similiar touhou characters and deltarune characters lore-wise and and character-wise (Those being Flandre Scarlet with Jevil and Koishi Komeiji with Spamton, which both are suprisingly secret/extra stage bosses) And well, it really means something if a 3 hour 1/7 of a game can motivate to do something besides laying in my bed and emotionlessly play games And i also have to mention how Queen was written perfectly. She can reference modern meme culture, but does it by keeping the vibe and the core fundamentals of today's memes, instead of just referencing memes, which kinda puts a time limit on media that does that, since memes die rather quickly, and makes them feel like people behind them are going "how are you doing, fellow kids" So, Queen is good
Yeah I love Deltarune. So many things about it just make it click with me better than any other RPG has. And I kinda relate to the drawing part lol, Deltarune Chapter 2 motivated me enough to actually get into art again and start drawing digitally, which I never expected. I just love the game so much.
@@Wyrlwind i also really like the moment where you tell "screw you" to ralsei. i really liked that moment. that was the best moment. maybe even better than those moments where berdly was there. slightly better.
Honestly I really wanted to talk about him in the video but the thought didn't cross my mind until well after I finished the script lol. But much like everyone else, I really like Spamton! Hard to think up my thoughts on the spot but I think it's something about the fact that only Kris knows the weird stuff Spamton has talked to them about, and how Spamton relates to Kris from the perspective of a puppet. I think a lot of fan content can be really blatant with the themes of Kris being the players puppet, but that's kinda why I like how it's dealt with in Deltarune. Its more subtle, but Chapter 2 expands upon those puppetry themes with Spamton & Kris. Still really funny to me how Spamton became such a popularly meme'd character because of all that. Oh and him as the secret boss confused me at first, but once I picked up on the details, I loved it. His boss theme is a killer track. Its a shame the boss can be so easy if you buy the special big shot bowties he sells at his shop though, usually I just opt to fight Spamton Neo without that armor because it's more fun that way. Uhhh I'm rambling, hopefully that was a good reply lol
10:00 i understand your pov, but i like to go neutral more than pacifist, rude buster really helps with annoying fights (like tasque manager, mouse wheel, ect.) and really speeds things up for me.
Mouse wheel can be a tad bit annoying but honestly for most fights going pacifist makes things go by faster, or at least near equal speed as neutral. I get what you mean though
I think there's a pretty simple explaination for why Ralsei is in CyberWorld. When we first enter the said World we can see that when Kris is changing into his "Dark World Form", there is a star comming out of his head, (just like when you grab all the junk from the ild classroom and bring it to the supply closet) which implies that you somehow brough Ralsei with you. But I hear you asking, how could we bring the fluffy boy with us? Simple, when we check our Inventory before entering the Library, we have a piece of broken Glass in our Items, which I can only assume is Ralsei's Light World form.
That was Rouxls Kaard who jumped out of Kris' pocket. Even Lancer told about it if you reach out to Lancer in Kris' pocket. Link: youtu.be/ TY9FAsA6Q9w?t=15 _Remove the space between / and T._ Also please refer to Kris as they/them/their as their pronouns. Even the characters in Deltarune refer Kris as they/them/their pronouns. Using they/them/their pronouns isn't just for referring to the third person, it also refers to the second person. There's a thing called 'singular they' which is the use in English of the pronoun they or its inflected or derivative forms, them, their, theirs, and themselves, as an epicene singular pronoun. Source: Wikipedia
also the whole story with the secret bosses especially with spamton being parallel to kris in the way of being controlled or held up on silly strings and getting an actual reaction out of kris at the end with if you say no they actually screams it and both susie and ralsei then proceed to calm them down
To the character designs in chapter 1, Characters like Ruddin, Hathy, King, Clover and Lancer were designs on self made cards and not by toby himself, i believe? (anyone correct me if i'm wrong)
How do you only have 1k subs? This video is amazing! You gave constructive feedback on both chapters and the editing is impeccable, you just got a sub!
Fair enough, that was honestly just a quick assumption from me. Although I'm still curious as to how Kris even knows how to create dark fountains, even if they're not the knight.
Wow your channel and this video is amazing im surprised you don't have more subscribers yet The script was amazing and so was the editing you did to piece everything together Keep it up man I can't wait to see where this channel goes in the future
your idea of the story being predestined is very much supported by the beads in the main hospital room in the normal route, the beads "march grimly upon their destined path" while in Snowgrave the blue one is broken, showing that you've broken away from what the prophecy has predicted the prophecy being the prediction being supported by how Ralsei is very confused when things don't go how he thought they would in Snowgrave
Yeah that's something I haven't seen too many people bring up (honestly I should have but I forgot about it), I just wonder how much the beads will be able to change in future chapters
@@Wyrlwind personally I imagine that if you continued along the set path the beads would say something like “despite one being broken, the rest of the beads continue” And if you continued breaking the predestined continuity, it would be something more akin to more being broken as the chapters go on
such a well crafted video to only have 4k views. Well, glad you got a decent amount of people watching and appreciating your content, man. I look forward to what you make in the future!
Bro when i say this i'm not joking i clicked on this video without seeing your sub count and i thought this was just another great video essay from a popular youtuber but NO you are SO UNDERRATED so you earn a sub!
I have a theory that the big door in castle town is a portal to all dark worlds because when we sealed the fountain Ralsei says “that dark world disappeared after you sealed the fountain” Ralsei treats it as a different world
I think the big door is actually just supposed to be that other door you see in the unused classroom that can't be opened, but I'm still curious as to how Ralsei traverses dark worlds
It really shows too. I know a lot of people like Undertale more, but Deltarune feels more polished by far. Undertale has a better gimmick, and the way it's all handled is great, but the gameplay wasn't very fun for me. Deltarune's gameplay is super fun.
Id just like to say kris is not the knight. The only evidence we have for this is the fact they create a dark fountain but even then they only do it after getting told exactly how to make a dark fountain from queen. Their is also bits of evidence against this like how the king refers to the knight so fondly yet sees kris as just some lightner. He doesnt recognize kris as the knight at all but instead just sees him as some lightner who wishes to close his peoples dark fountain. Also if kris was the knight why do none of the darkners bring it up especially in chapter 1 where it was rather obvious the knight had a large influence on them and their king. I think its even said in some dialogue with the other imprisoned kings or with roulxs or something that the knight even helped overthrow the other kings for chaos king. If kris was even remotely the knight someone would recognize them as such and yet no darkner does
I'm just gonna say I'm aware, I've gotten plenty of comments about this, that was just a quick assumption I made in about ten seconds in my head while recording the video
@@Wyrlwind I mean considering he didn't say the word "shit", he's probably just saying innocently that he agrees with you that deltarune is a good game
Wait hold on i was just reading comments and someone said something about the algorith, so then i checked and what? The fuck? 800 views? Less than 400 subs? How, what, this is high quality, youtube do the thing now please
the person who tells you that you can't choose who you are probably isn't the person who was walking you through the character creator. the text abruptly changes from all caps to being properly capitalized, and the difference is even more pronounced in the japanese version
yea i know loll a lot of people have been commenting about it. I'm almost tempted to make a follow up vid to rectify that but I'm not sure if there woulld be much interest for something like that
loll quite a few people are disappointed I didn't talk about him more in the vid. Now I'm kinda thinking about making a follow-up vid talking about some of the stuff I missed but I'm not sure
How on earth does this have 1k views now? Well regardless, thank you all for watching the video! I will say though, if you subscribed for more Deltarune/Undertale content, I might be a bit thin on that. Sorry. Its a bit difficult to come up with a good number of ideas, but I'll try to keep brainstorming! If you have any suggestions of your own, let me know! Thanks!
5k now :)
Wow, this really blew up, huh? Almost at 13k views.
you're uh, actually good dude, I expected you to have more, but I guess its a matter of time.
@@unkirbyjosuke1904 thank you!
1k huh
13:20 given that Queen shows us a pie, identical to Berdly's, and tells us it's a "Battery Acid Pie", I think it is one.
Given Berdly, though, it is now my headcanon that he just... added Mt Dew to it and called it a gamer's delight. Thanks for that, I love it
He also hid some ditos in there
Ditos= Doritos
It doesn't seem like too many people realize that Berdly's spelling bee arc, is actually more focused on Noelle in a way. She failed the spelling bee because the name of her sister December, or "Dess" who passed away, came up as a word in the spelling bee. Which is why you help her spell December before reaching Queen's Mansion. Infact, remember how Chapter 1 was loosely based around Susie opening up? It's the same thing here with Noelle. If you pay attention to the details and parallel metaphors between the Light and Dark world, it becomes clear that Chapter 2 was her character arc. Berdly was just explaining why he feels pressure to be smart. For all we know, there's more we don't know about him. We don't even know where he lives, for one. Either way, great video. Just thought I'd share some knowledge!
That's something I didn't really think about until yesterday I think? I'll admit I'm a bit slow when it comes to details like that lol. I did notice the December thing beforehand which made me feel worse for Noelle, but yeah that whole thing was focused more so on Noelle than Berdly. And yeah I see your point about the parallels, I get the feeling the future chapters might continue with that, with Toriel potentially being next on the list? That is, assuming she'll become a party member. Anyway, it's just kind of a shame Berdly didn't get much more than that little cutscene. Maybe he'll have some more spotlight in a future chapter, but on one hand I kind of doubt it given Snowgrave. It just makes me think Berdly won't have much of a presence in future chapters regardless of which route you take, but I could always end up being wrong. I'm rambling though lol, thanks for the info!
@@Wyrlwind It took me awhile to find that out aswell honestly. It's crazy how much we have left to find out about this world! Yeah, mainly the parallel I was thinking of was Noelle's Mom and Queen. You can tell by the end Noelle really stands up to Queen for trying to assume she knows what's best for her. And with Noelle's Dad in the hospital that feeling as probably been amplified and came out in the dark world as a way get over that lack of control she's had in her life (presumably). There are so many layers to this story, it's so well done. Yeah totally! And also Undyne might be there aswell right? Toriel did call the police. I wouldn't be surprised if she gets sucked in sometime after Kris opens the dark world. And you're right, there's a good chance that's it for Berdly. And I can't deny that at least at first glance Berdly's "arc" had kinda lame presentation than what were used too unfortunately. But who knows? Maybe it's all intentional. Thanks for the reply, it's surprisingly fun discussing Toby's work in environments like this. You got a cool thing going on this channel!
@@Cinder36 I wouldn't be surprised if Undyne shows up. I imagine she'd arrive at their house to check Toriel's car, find their door is opened (because Kris opened it), then she falls in. And yeah I love discussing Deltarune, this vid was kind of just the culmination of a lot of stuff I've wanted to talk with people about but haven't had a chance to, so I'm glad people are discussing it in the comments too!
@@Wyrlwind Huh, weird. I had a reply here but it's gone. Welp, guess only you and I know lol.
@@Cinder36 youtube can be weird and delete comments for no reason sometimes lol, I still don't understand what causes that issue
Great video, great script.
One thing I’ll just mention is some behind the scenes stuff. Toby Fox mostly made Undertale and Ch 1 on his own with some drawings from others. Ch 2 was made with a full team and had the support of others. Mostly, all of the growth and improvements came from Toby not having to build a full game on his own.
Thank you! I should've mentioned that in the video honestly but the thought never crossed my mind. But yeah, I'm sure having a team has helped a ton with his growth in game development. I'm really glad it seems to be working out for him so far, Deltarune is shaping up to be my favorite game currently lol.
Also the card enemies were made from an artist for a class assignment, not made as game characters. Thats prob why they were not the coolest looking enemies
Deltarune is 99% memes, 1% randomness and 100% fun and pure greatness
yes
And 10% what the fuck me
Couldn't agree more
200% of a masterpiece
666% trauma
Well if you look for it
Deltarune’s combat is incredible, but I would really love to see them add more spells. (or more permanent party members, either one works) Like, Dual Heal and Fluffy Guard would be great to have all the time, but you just can’t for some reason. Maybe a party member that uses buffs or status conditions would be cool too.
Toriel might become a party member in Chapter 3, well at least judging by the ending of Chapter 2 she could. She could be a fitting character to fill in a supporting role on the team. And yea I think would be cool if there were more spells, but having dual heal and fluffy guard all the time might make the game too easy. I'm sure they could think of other spells to add in though
There is basically no way that Kris is the knight, because we know that the knight created the computer lab fountain, and we know Kris couldn't have for two reasons:
First, Noelle and Berdly are already sitting down with their books open on the table in front of them, implying the fountain was created *after* they both were in the computer room. The only argument against this I've heard or can think of is that the books weren't there and open at first, but the dark world somehow affected the light world, opening the book and placing them on the table right in front of where Noelle and Berdly "wake up." However, Noelle believes that the whole dark world was a dream and that they fell asleep while studying, and still believed it after she "woke up." If she "woke up" at the table and didn't even remember sitting down there to start work, she surely would have thought that was suspicious, no? Therefore, the dark world appeared after they got there, which was after the start of chapter two, and we saw Kris at all points from then until they discovered the dark world, so Kris couldn't have opened it.
Second, as shown each time Kris takes out their soul, they can barely even walk without that soul. However, to open the computer lab fountain, they would have had to:
Leave the house unnoticed, walk all the way across town, break into the library without leaving a trace, create a dark fountain, get back out of the library, (again, without leaving a trace,) walk all the way across town *again*, then go to bed, all when they struggle to even walk.
This comment ended up being _way_ longer than I thought it would be lol
I mean, one could argue that Kris and Susie shouldn't have been able to show up on the floor of the unused classroom then. There's no real way anyone could have snuck in while Berdly and Noelle were studying and have opened a fountain, I assume they simply just fell into the dark world, not understanding why the room was so dark.
Regardless, I don't know whether or not I really think that Kris is the knight. It's certainly possible since they know how to open a dark fountain, but as another comment mentioned, Kris may have only learned how to open fountains after Queen mentioned it in Chapter 2. Whenever I said Kris is presumably the knight in the video, it was more of a quick assumption than what I actually thought if I'm being honest.
@despotcito Fair enough, that's also a possibility I didn't think about
Another detail i haven't seen anyone talk about: When you meet Ralsei at the Cyber World, he says "I sensed a dark presence", so Ralsei can sense the fountains. Whether you believe Ralsei is evil or not, it's undeniable that he wants to seal the fountains, so if there was a dark fountain in the library since the beggining of the chapter, Ralsei would've mentioned it
It's actually insane how people think Kris is the knight to begin with
Did you know that if you chose any dialogue that Susie has in the Ferris wheel dream with Noelle, it will lead to the same dialogue?
I think it's because Kris is just _wondering_ about it. I'm surprised that no one talks about it though.
I just realized the Deltarune OST: 5 - The Door sounds like Hell's Kitchen Dramatic Sound (Waterphone) - Sound Effect but slower. Also, no one noticed this.
wtf it does sound like waterphone
im pretty sure the fact that the dialogue doesnt change is just because we don't have control of Susie. Whenever we try to choose things for Susie, i.e. the prison in chapter 1 and the party split in chapter 2, she just picks stuff for herself.
Queen's plan was to piss off Buehdhtgrly when she said that she was a mobile gamer.
His real name is Beuqyuweardiyrovlies
his name is actually burger
@@p0laroideu are you implying is name is Gandalf?
@Jelgio Valerio and than you have pheonix Wright
Yeah she literally plays arcade games kekw
I really really like your take on this video and how honest you were with your feelings towards things like the battle system and the story, to name a few things. You did this review justice, and while I don't have any complaints here, I would have been willing to hear you talk more about Spamton since he's very involved in Chapter 2 and appears to have a lot of importance. Though I do know you brought up how adding more to this review would have made it a lot longer, which is very understandable^
Y'know if you end up actually making a video about deltarune theories and lore, I will be willing to watch that video because it's something I would be interested in watching.
Thank you so much! Yeah it didn't occur to me until sometime after I got done scripting this video that I didn't really talk about Spamton in the review, but unfortunately I couldn't figure out any way to fit him into the script without it seeming kind of forced in. I'd really like to talk about Spamton more though, whether that be in the potential theories/lore vid or something else entirely. Just gotta whip up some ideas lol, but thank you for the feedback!
@@Wyrlwind yeah I had a feeling it may have proven difficult to add more spamton into this video, so no worried friend^^ I still look forward to your next deltarune-related videos and I should really open up to more of your content^
This is a fun video to see a random persons thoughts, also appreciate the fixing Kris's pronouns. I feel like Kris being the knight is still a theory/arguable thing, sounds super cool honestly and I can't wait for chapter 3.
The reason chapter 2 took years is Toby said he has a bigger team but now he has to take extra time to clearly communicate his visions and ideas to the whole team! Kinda disappointed you didn't cover Spamton more, he's a super cool and cute character and interesting how every chapter has a character like Jevil and Spamton, can't wait to get his merch
Yeah I'll admit the Kris being the knight thing is still guesswork, Toby could be pulling the wool over our eyes with Chapter 2's ending and just making us think Kris is the knight. And I would have covered Spamton more, though I didn't think about it until well after I had finished the script, so I couldn't figure out how to fit him in there. Maybe I could make a separate video talking about some of the stuff I missed lol, Idk.
@@Wyrlwind
Why kris most likely made fountain:
ralsei + lancer are in dark world and in light world are inanimate objects
Susie asks "wouldnt it be nice if ralsei and lancer could come over"
Making a dark fountain in the light world, despite ralseis warnings and stuff abt multiple, would probably make kris think ralsei and lancer would be in the light world
Also king doesnt recognize kris as the knight
And queens dark fountain is made before we even get to the library
Honestly, when Deltarune first came out I wasn’t interested at all because I thought there was know way it could be as good as Undertale. Eventually when my friend came over I played it with her, and I really liked it. I’m more obsessed with this game than Undertale lol
yeaaa it's so good
Something with the acts, even though everyone can act now, i'm pretty sure any sort of 'team acts' still rely on kris.
Berdly is probably one of the most funny characters in the game, up there with queen and lancer. people hate him because of how hes annoying, but a lot of the funny chapter two jokes actually revolve around him, like “I only play mobile games” or “ or give me bad ideas for smartboy theme park”. I also find it pretty funny how he switches from trying to act smart to immediately being stupid after his little cutscene
Berdley was the driving force of the comedy and toby actually managed to give him a story people could relate while never excusing his behavior. Like people still found him annoying but he became pretty understandable in the end imo.
snow grave is the best
i really like Berdlys back story. not because its good for him. but it gives more interest in Noelle's backstory. its prefect for his character. even in his own backstory he's taking second place. if you don't know why i will say below.
Noelle freezes on the word December, that's also the same word that is spelled out when your going through the alley.
its pretty clear that Noelle had a sister who is no longer in the picture for one reason or another. this character is always referred to as Dess. given their family's whole theme its not hard to guess that Dess's full name was December. so Noelle freezing on saying their name shows not only that whatever happened with Dess was most likely pretty bad. but it also shows that it happened when they were rather young, considering Noelle's age during the spelling bee and the stories implying there wasn't a massive age gap. maybe about the same age gap as between Kris and Asriel. meaning its not as simple as Dess moving away or going to collage. so thanks Berdly. I know you were trying to get us to sympathies with you but you failed. added to Noelle's backstory though so good job anyway.
Yeah that's why I'm hoping we get to see more of Berdly and Noelle in a future chapter/chapters. I'm sure we'll see them both in the game again though. Well mainly Noelle just because I wanna hear more about her background lol
@@Wyrlwind would be a massive mistake for them to not give us more on Noelle. also it seems unlikely. there are still questions. and it seems unlikely that Berdly will have much of a presence in future chapters. for... reasons...
@@joshuaperry7323 I think Berdly would join the party in a later chapter. And if you kill him, the game would throw things at you to say “You killed Berdly so he isn’t here at this moment where he would have said something about this.” Or “Berdly would have done something else here.” From a deltarune chess theory video, they said Halberds are useful against knights. That makes me think Berdly would develop a lot as a character, and then that would help tremendously later on against the knight. Alternatively, if we kill him, it will make the fight against the knight much harder. Berdly has shown to be capable in chapter 2, as he saved our asses against Giga Queen.
A glimpse of this development could be in the unfortunate snowgrave route. Where he takes a situation seriously for once and drops the ego feeding languages. So while his growth kind of accelarates but is stopped by his death Snowgrave, it’s more gradual in the main route.
@@joshuaperry7323 i disagree, berdly's clearly going to appear more
I mean, you don't see undyne not being important in undertale just cause you can kill her
@@Mqstodon that's fair. though Undyne mainly appears in the pacifist route afterwards. not much in the neutral and definitely not in genocide. but toby said there is only going to be one route in delta rune. so while he might show up he probably wont have a massive role. or rather one ending. so i guess the route could be a little different.
An amazing video. Hopefully the TH-cam algorithm will be with you for this one.
thank you! I'm amazed it's gotten 100 views in a day, so thankfully the algorithm seems to like this video somewhat!
Plot twist the dark fountain in the library was created when berdley dropped like, a cord on the ground and the prongs hit the ground first
I wish i could play Undertale for the first time again
lol I wish I would have played it much earlier on and not unintentionally spoiled stuff in it for myself
I have kinda hard relation with Undertale, one day i like it, one day i don't
But Deltarune, man, I love sooo much about it.
I love how it has those secret bosses, which are kinda like Touhou Project's Extra Stage bosses, and they are already amazing.
Come to think of it, I can draw a lot of comparision between Deltarune and Touhou, and trust me, me comparing them is a compliment for Deltarune. But it's not about Touhou, it's Deltarune. Deltarune chapter 2 came in in a weird moment of this year for me, where all i did was playing Spore and Sonic Adventure 2 with no emotions, just empty gaming sessions. And this game kinda motivated me to move my butt and start actually drawing. I drew a lot of Spamton, I drew some crossover art that are interactions of 4 very similiar touhou characters and deltarune characters lore-wise and and character-wise (Those being Flandre Scarlet with Jevil and Koishi Komeiji with Spamton, which both are suprisingly secret/extra stage bosses)
And well, it really means something if a 3 hour 1/7 of a game can motivate to do something besides laying in my bed and emotionlessly play games
And i also have to mention how Queen was written perfectly. She can reference modern meme culture, but does it by keeping the vibe and the core fundamentals of today's memes, instead of just referencing memes, which kinda puts a time limit on media that does that, since memes die rather quickly, and makes them feel like people behind them are going "how are you doing, fellow kids"
So, Queen is good
Yeah I love Deltarune. So many things about it just make it click with me better than any other RPG has. And I kinda relate to the drawing part lol, Deltarune Chapter 2 motivated me enough to actually get into art again and start drawing digitally, which I never expected. I just love the game so much.
yay berdly is in the front in the thumbnail i love him so muuch!!! that's why i clicked on the video btw only because it has berdly in it
lol fair enough
@@Wyrlwind "he's egotistical, a nerd, AND a gamer!" lmao
@@Wyrlwind i also really like the moment where you tell "screw you" to ralsei. i really liked that moment. that was the best moment. maybe even better than those moments where berdly was there. slightly better.
@@armageddongirl612 bruhh lol
Hopefully the algorithm blesses you soon, amazing editing.
Thank you! I'm already amazed with the amount of support/attention this video has gotten honestly, I'm just glad anyone has enjoyed it at all!
Hi jax
I loved Berdly's character arc 🤣
Dude my jaw almost dropped when I saw you only have 704 subscribers. You are making 100k+ worthy content right here my man! Keep up the good work.
Thank you, it means a lot to hear that :)
Wylwind:and im sure you dont care
Me:YOU ARE SUPER DUPER WRONG
I feel like chapter 1 was made to be a setup for Toby to reveal everything he was holding back
The algorithm has blessed you! This video was an absolutely great watch.
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it :)
Can't say I agree with a lot of your takes but I definitely agree that deltarune is amazing
You’re great at editing I hope this video gets the attention it deserves
thank you!! I'm amazed by how many people have seen the vid already, I never expected it to get past 50-100 views loll
@@Wyrlwind 50-100 views is setting the bar too low. 150-250 views is the MINIMUM on a great video like this
Hey, I'd really like to know what you think about Spamton and him being the secret boss. Great vid btw!
Honestly I really wanted to talk about him in the video but the thought didn't cross my mind until well after I finished the script lol. But much like everyone else, I really like Spamton! Hard to think up my thoughts on the spot but I think it's something about the fact that only Kris knows the weird stuff Spamton has talked to them about, and how Spamton relates to Kris from the perspective of a puppet. I think a lot of fan content can be really blatant with the themes of Kris being the players puppet, but that's kinda why I like how it's dealt with in Deltarune. Its more subtle, but Chapter 2 expands upon those puppetry themes with Spamton & Kris. Still really funny to me how Spamton became such a popularly meme'd character because of all that. Oh and him as the secret boss confused me at first, but once I picked up on the details, I loved it. His boss theme is a killer track. Its a shame the boss can be so easy if you buy the special big shot bowties he sells at his shop though, usually I just opt to fight Spamton Neo without that armor because it's more fun that way. Uhhh I'm rambling, hopefully that was a good reply lol
@@Wyrlwind Wow, thanks!
10:00 i understand your pov, but i like to go neutral more than pacifist, rude buster really helps with annoying fights (like tasque manager, mouse wheel, ect.) and really speeds things up for me.
Mouse wheel can be a tad bit annoying but honestly for most fights going pacifist makes things go by faster, or at least near equal speed as neutral. I get what you mean though
17:11 this is actually my ringtone to wake up every day since the day chap2 came out
I wish I could figure out how to set custom ringtones on my phone lol
chapter 3 will have dark world temmie
evil temmie finally
@@Wyrlwind Have you heard of the fangame TS!Underswap? Temmie's evil in it
@@usermcskull4713 oh yea, I played that a while ago, that's a really good fangame!
@@Wyrlwind Yeah I recently played it and it's great! Maybe my favourite fangame.
mettacrit my beloved
I think there's a pretty simple explaination for why Ralsei is in CyberWorld. When we first enter the said World we can see that when Kris is changing into his "Dark World Form", there is a star comming out of his head, (just like when you grab all the junk from the ild classroom and bring it to the supply closet) which implies that you somehow brough Ralsei with you. But I hear you asking, how could we bring the fluffy boy with us? Simple, when we check our Inventory before entering the Library, we have a piece of broken Glass in our Items, which I can only assume is Ralsei's Light World form.
I'll have to check that, cause I don't remember that. I'm pretty sure Kris & Susie leave Castle Town before Ralsei could even jump in Kris' inventory
What? That is roulx kard
That was Rouxls Kaard who jumped out of Kris' pocket. Even Lancer told about it if you reach out to Lancer in Kris' pocket.
Link: youtu.be/ TY9FAsA6Q9w?t=15
_Remove the space between / and T._
Also please refer to Kris as they/them/their as their pronouns. Even the characters in Deltarune refer Kris as they/them/their pronouns. Using they/them/their pronouns isn't just for referring to the third person, it also refers to the second person. There's a thing called 'singular they' which is the use in English of the pronoun they or its inflected or derivative forms, them, their, theirs, and themselves, as an epicene singular pronoun.
Source: Wikipedia
also the whole story with the secret bosses especially with spamton being parallel to kris in the way of being controlled or held up on silly strings and getting an actual reaction out of kris at the end with if you say no they actually screams it and both susie and ralsei then proceed to calm them down
To the character designs in chapter 1,
Characters like Ruddin, Hathy, King, Clover and Lancer were designs on self made cards and not by toby himself, i believe?
(anyone correct me if i'm wrong)
Your correct. They were made as random designs on a deck of cards and Toby liked them so much he asked the artist if he could use them
How do you only have 1k subs? This video is amazing! You gave constructive feedback on both chapters and the editing is impeccable, you just got a sub!
Thank you!
i personally don’t think kris is the knight since any lightener can do that and I feel like that’d be kind of a lame twist
Fair enough, that was honestly just a quick assumption from me. Although I'm still curious as to how Kris even knows how to create dark fountains, even if they're not the knight.
@@Wyrlwind unsure about chapter 1's and 2's fountain but the only time we see a fountain being made by kris is after queen explained it to them
@@himhim2527 I somehow forgot about that lol, yeah that's pretty likely
Wow your channel and this video is amazing im surprised you don't have more subscribers yet
The script was amazing and so was the editing you did to piece everything together
Keep it up man I can't wait to see where this channel goes in the future
Thank you!
Great video! I gotta try out chapter 2 sometime
Thanks!
your idea of the story being predestined is very much supported by the beads in the main hospital room
in the normal route, the beads "march grimly upon their destined path" while in Snowgrave the blue one is broken, showing that you've broken away from what the prophecy has predicted
the prophecy being the prediction being supported by how Ralsei is very confused when things don't go how he thought they would in Snowgrave
Yeah that's something I haven't seen too many people bring up (honestly I should have but I forgot about it), I just wonder how much the beads will be able to change in future chapters
@@Wyrlwind personally I imagine that if you continued along the set path the beads would say something like “despite one being broken, the rest of the beads continue”
And if you continued breaking the predestined continuity, it would be something more akin to more being broken as the chapters go on
ive been on a trek to discover low sub quality channels to support
im happy to be here man
Well I'm glad you stopped by!
@@Wyrlwind i'll be staying a while if you dont mind
most underrated channel ever
such a well crafted video to only have 4k views. Well, glad you got a decent amount of people watching and appreciating your content, man.
I look forward to what you make in the future!
Thank you! I don't understand how this got so much attention considering how late I am with this video lol, but I appreciate every bit of support!
Ah yes a 30mins that tells me everything I already know but makes me happy anyway
I feel like you just compliment me for 20mins idk why lmfao
toby comes every three years and drops another masterpiece on our heads
yup loll
13:25 if you go looking for it, there is a Mountain Dew pie recipe out there...
that sounds horrendous
I should make that, it would be funny i think
Bro when i say this i'm not joking i clicked on this video without seeing your sub count and i thought this was just another great video essay from a popular youtuber but NO you are SO UNDERRATED so you earn a sub!
Thank you for the kind words!
Kris ACT still is unquie because has more option
Damn, this needs more views!
thanks!
@@Wyrlwind if you ever want custom music for your vids, feel free to ask. I’m always available. TH-cam keeps deleting my attempts to tell you this.
@@aceofthorns oh maybe. I'd kinda want to hear any music you have made beforehand, but thank you for the offer
@@Wyrlwind my channel has quite a bit.
@@aceofthorns I'll give it a listen later today if I get the chance!
I have a theory that the big door in castle town is a portal to all dark worlds because when we sealed the fountain Ralsei says “that dark world disappeared after you sealed the fountain” Ralsei treats it as a different world
I think the big door is actually just supposed to be that other door you see in the unused classroom that can't be opened, but I'm still curious as to how Ralsei traverses dark worlds
"Good video, thank you for the entertainment."
- A nerd in a special place of H E double hockey sticks.
JUICY editing, really good video my dude.
Thank you so much!
Technically Deltarune is what Toby Fox originally envisioned. Undertale was basically Toby's "test run"
It really shows too. I know a lot of people like Undertale more, but Deltarune feels more polished by far. Undertale has a better gimmick, and the way it's all handled is great, but the gameplay wasn't very fun for me. Deltarune's gameplay is super fun.
For a small channel, the quality is amazing. Reminded me of Game Theory and Kurzgesagt - In a Nutshell for some clips. Good job, man
Thank you!
Youuuu get a subscription! The algorithm is finally finally doing some good work!
I really hope we get a fight in the light world
Id just like to say kris is not the knight. The only evidence we have for this is the fact they create a dark fountain but even then they only do it after getting told exactly how to make a dark fountain from queen. Their is also bits of evidence against this like how the king refers to the knight so fondly yet sees kris as just some lightner. He doesnt recognize kris as the knight at all but instead just sees him as some lightner who wishes to close his peoples dark fountain. Also if kris was the knight why do none of the darkners bring it up especially in chapter 1 where it was rather obvious the knight had a large influence on them and their king. I think its even said in some dialogue with the other imprisoned kings or with roulxs or something that the knight even helped overthrow the other kings for chaos king. If kris was even remotely the knight someone would recognize them as such and yet no darkner does
I'm just gonna say I'm aware, I've gotten plenty of comments about this, that was just a quick assumption I made in about ten seconds in my head while recording the video
@@Wyrlwind thats fair i assumed i wasnt the first to say this
2:35WTF am not psychologically and mentally like Lancer once said:
Edit:nvm. so that was a f*****g lie
I clicked on this video thinking, "No crap, Sherlock,"
are you trying to be rude or something lol, if so i don't understand why you felt the need to comment this. sorry if I'm misunderstanding
@@Wyrlwind I mean considering he didn't say the word "shit", he's probably just saying innocently that he agrees with you that deltarune is a good game
@@2Lowfy yeah sorry, they probably were and I'm just misunderstanding
A Gamer's Delight is a pizza containing Doritos and Mountain Dew
In chapter 3, Chariel could be a character
Chariel?
EDIT: i just remembered what chariel is LOL I'm stupid
Fun fact : deltarune chapter 2 feel like meme because it's about internet
Wait hold on i was just reading comments and someone said something about the algorith, so then i checked and what? The fuck? 800 views? Less than 400 subs? How, what, this is high quality, youtube do the thing now please
Thank you!
Exactly
Yo said Darkworld 10 times in 30 secs. Wow.
i have a very diverse vocabulary
@@Wyrlwind very diverse
If you're curious the Virovirokun (the pink dudes) are sentient computer viruses/malware
This channel deserves more sub and view
holy shit this is such an underrated channel
just saw how this amazing video went from like 55 views to nearly 23k. simply inspiring
Woah, this channel is super underrated, having even 1/3 as many subs as a channel this good feels wrong 😅
Thank you!
@@Wyrlwind ofc, I subbed, I'll continue to watch these, they are really well made videos
@@ScottPIayz Thank you so much, I really appreciate the kind words :)
@@Wyrlwind no problem :)
@@Wyrlwind I hope your channel gets big someday :3
Love this video! Awesome production quality, you could really go somewhere with your content
Thank you, I really appreciate it!
It would be sad if alphys or toriel open the closet and found berdly there
the person who tells you that you can't choose who you are probably isn't the person who was walking you through the character creator. the text abruptly changes from all caps to being properly capitalized, and the difference is even more pronounced in the japanese version
HE DIDNT MENTION SPAMTON NEO AAAAA (still good video tho)
You honestly deserved more subscribers 😕. It's obvious that you work hard on your videos. I hope you become a super successful youtuber!
As soon as you said “Berdly reminds me of a Danganronpa fan” I subscribed lmao
Ok. Algorithm's definitely got your back. Love this!!!
This guy should have more subscribers
The queen is not a mobile gamer as you play arcade discount punch out during the beginning and she says that to mess with berdly
Technically she moves it around at will so it could be considered mobile
I think that the choices of the player don't matter, but the choices of suise, ralsei, Noelle et all do.
DeltaRune is amazing
It really is
Kris can't be the knight, they were not at the library at the only possible moment the dark fountain could have been created
I'm aware, I've gotten a bunch of comments about this already
OK, sorry
6:42 just like queen get to the castle town
Jawsh is seething right now
26:18
Berdly axe has a eye?
Im curious novv
SPAMTON was the best part.
Cyber music sounds familiar
2:37 at the end of the chapter 2?
Oh nvm i'm dumb
Actually there's only 1 Tasqe Manager (I forgot how to spell it)
16:04 TELL THAT TO MA FACE!
YA LIMB! NOODLE!
I am a mobile gamer that also plays on a pc!
Take that
great video!!!
thank you!
Chapter 2 is Incredible
me looking the deltarune clips that using fight instead of mercy
the fuc-
This is a good video however you didn’t talk about the secret boss
yea i know loll a lot of people have been commenting about it. I'm almost tempted to make a follow up vid to rectify that but I'm not sure if there woulld be much interest for something like that
I see a underated Chanel here
good editing good job
I'm glad you like it, thanks!
snow grave is the best route
What is wrong with you you're the true villain because Rousey is good
* sad spamton noises *
loll quite a few people are disappointed I didn't talk about him more in the vid. Now I'm kinda thinking about making a follow-up vid talking about some of the stuff I missed but I'm not sure
@@Wyrlwind that would be cool, but that's your decision ^^
tbh i think undertales soundtrack is better than chapter one BUT CHAPTER 2 S L A P S
rude bust and chaos king and lancers theme are different tho
I know it’s incredible