@@antr_ score tsmpering is an actual crime in the olympics. If judges are suspected of bias they can be brought before a committee and not only be fired and banned from ever judging events in any country that takes part in the olympics, but could face fines or jail time if their considered to be profiling agansy one specific country.
@@Rajah_P._SonnetI understand getting banned but how are you realistically going to get jail time when you are judging such meticulous detail solely by eye in REAL time? How could you ever differentiate a bad judge from a corrupt one?
It’s not corruption the video just didn’t report the story accurately. You’re a Democrat right? Because it’s always Democrats who think whatever they hear online is true.
Watch the routine and see his huge step. The code of points giving Morgan Hamm a 10 start value was the problem. 😮 Cassina's routine. The spectacular twisting move you always see in the finals these days is named for him.
I remember this. Alexei Nemov was not only beautiful, he was one of the greatest gymnasts of all time. This was in Athens, Greece, and so this wasn't even a Russian crowd. The head of Olympic Gymnastics was the one that ordered the score be changed. Still disappointing that Nemov didn't win but unforgettable.
This man is a good guy and should be respected even when he has a right to be the victim he humbly thanked the audience for their support and asked them to let it go.
Yeah sure, lets all unite over some jock doing his thing and forget about the rape of Ukraine by the bloodthirsty KJB thug putin. This Russian gymnast would not have been on the team if he had the guts to speak out about putin. Many are still in prison for daring to call it a war, much less an invasion.
@@siewheilou399 The award is presented to an athlete, coach or official in recognition of an outstanding act of fair play and sportsmanship displayed during the past year. This award is presented annually at the U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Assembly.
Even in fifth place he came in first with the crowd, who were the real unbiased judges because they recognized his skill, ability and true sportsmanship!
I stopped watching gymnastics 20+ years ago because the judging has always been rigged. I only watch events that don't rely on scoring since those are the only ones you can be certain have a level of fairness to them.
I remember it... At the time we were huge gymnastics fans and were watching it religiously. Gymnastics was often a political game more than a fairplay competition.
@@finalfanvii6822 you might want to check what the situation was in 2004! In the men's team competition Japan won gold, US won silver, Romania won bronze. US only got two other medals in men's competition, the same as China, Italy, South Korea and Japan, while Romania got 3. In women's competition Romania won gold in the team competition followed by US and Russia. China won a single medal in all around, US won 5 medals, Romania 5 as well, Russia 1.
All judged competitions are political. Especially the Olympics. This happened in figure skating, too, a while back. The judges made backroom deals to vote for each other's teams
The most important thing was he was loved by the audience...that was very encouraging than a gold medal...salute to this gymnast...you showed the world how respectful you are😊
It wasn’t necessarily about corruption, but rather about a really bad judging system. What the audience liked and how the system worked was quite different, this “scandal” led to changes in the judging criteria 👍 It’s sad I think he deserved a medal, but luckily for him he already had four 4️⃣ Olympic gold medals 🥇
There are many technical elements to gymnastics and it’s scoring. There is definitely a subjectivity to the sport as some judges hve different angles and therefore see different things. A score can’t be changed just cause of booing, the video probably didn’t include that the coaches submitted an inquiry to change the score (which us allowed) Inquiries for gymnastics can be approved, declined, or even take away points from the original score
@@Mark-l9k9q a lot of sports have subjectivity. Baseball, soccer, football, and many other sports are also subjective. That’s why they have refs to make calls. And fans of those sports are much more likely to boo or argue when a ref makes a call they don’t like. A bit of Subjectivity doesn’t make this any less of a sport
I remember watching this. Nemov did a remarkable job with release skills but he took a huge step on his landing, which was an automatic .2 deduction that the judges could not overrule. The crowd didn't seem to understand that. Had he not taken that step, he would have EASILY won first, but he was scored fairly due to the step. I believe he understood that and that's why he asked the crowd to stop protesting. It was very classy of him, and at least within the gymnastics world, his placement in this competition is not seen as controversial. The men's all-around, on the other hand, was a legitimate disaster and one of the biggest scandals in gymnastics history. That's the one to be mad about, not this one.
Yes. And most gymnasts would rather not do a difficult skill but execute it and land it well than do a high difficulty and risk getting deduction for doing it poorly.
No matter how difficult a gymnast's routine is, the max score would always be 10, this is the problem, with old 10-scoring system. Other gymnasts can have an easier routine with all the requirements fulfilled, and some bonus here and there and they would get a ten, a more difficult element will not be reward, because of the scoring limitation. That's why in 2006, fig introduced the new scoring system called the Open ended scoring, where the difficulty of each element is given more importance.
What needs to happen is judges need to be more confortable giving 4s, 5s, 6s, or even lower. In almost every competition that has judges scoring, scores are _so_ inflated. A 30/40 is more lile a 15/40 in most cases.
@@PandaFan2443it's because the scoring should be consistent across all competitions. At Olympic or world championship level only the very best athletes are even there, so what seems like a bad routine by Olympic standards is still a fantastic routine overall and rightly scores highly. The new scoring system is much better though for allowing scores to scale up at high levels without getting cramped at the top end
He definitely should’ve won 🥇!! Unfortunately, the judges cast their votes against his country, not FOR his performance. They should be ashamed of themselves and never be allowed to rate another Olympic performance. The Russian athlete showed those judges who the true champion was, in class, integrity AND respect. His actions, along with his performance, will cause him to be forever remembered as The People’s Champion for a very long time. Knowing that another athlete was waiting to perform, he stood, showed love to the crowd who was booing the unjust judges, and pleaded with them to be quiet. Even though he was upset, he considered the other athletes. I watched his performance and he was amazing!! He finished 5th, when he should’ve finished 1st!! As far as I’m concerned, his performance was rated SOLID GOLD!!
Only 2 years after the biggest judging scandal in figure skating yet again between the eastern and western block. That was bold of them to even try. His skills were superior ❤
Reminds me of the song, "your the fastest runner but your not allowed to win", once again, where's the justice when the justice has been bought and paid for
What some people commenting on here need to remember is while Nemov performed all those amazing releases, he like everyone else who medaled had a max score of 10.0 which was the scoring system at the time. He didn’t stick his landing and had a large step forward which resulted in a .2 deduction which was apart of the rules at that time. Meaning the max score he could had received was a 9.8 due the deduction. The rest of his scores were 9.75 which makes sense due to judges finding small things here and there. If he would had stuck the landing, he very likely would had won the gold.
Well I'm no expert but the 2 previous contestants definitely stepped back or failed to nail the dismount BUT the difficulty of the Russians performance was a first place performance! He was robbed!
Oh, I will never forget this moment, the Athens Olympics. I talk about it to this day, was on holiday from Junior Secondary School and the Olympics was on. During this event, I kept booing at the TV too, and I made sure to regal my family (at different turns mind you) with all the details. That's when I understood what the power of the people was meant to look like. I was so young couldn't recall the country or even his name, thank you for this video. The young man is still my hero.
I always said the Olympics are rigged- when a Russian gymnast in the 80s was outstanding and she didn’t win, I was baffled then and thought the judging was biased!🤷🏼♀️
@@vegetapt9144 it's really hard for athlete's to qualify for the olympics without undergoing a structured training regime. Sure they could have raw talent in their youth but that talent has to be refined and polished by being trained by the best coaches, pt's, choreographers, equipment (if needed). All of this costs money via sponsorships, stipends or government sponsored training. Sure you can get private sponsors for some tournaments but if you're representing a country, the government will be involved in this process.
I don't think he's praised for the country, though. (who exactly are you talking about, the narrator, the crowd?) It does sound weird how the voice says 'a japanese gymnast', 'an american g', 'a russian g'. Could have said the names maybe. Saying one gymnast, a second/another one and a third one would be too confusing I think. 😅 As for the crowd, th Olympics being in Europe and Russia being close, maybe he had more supporters than Americans or Asians, that's just natural. Then the wheel turns at a competition held in the US...
This is why I say gymnastics is NOT a sport. Anything that is based on a person’s opinion it isn’t a sport. Athletic, YES. Sport, NO! Figure skating 🚫 Diving 🚫 Ballroom Dancing 🚫
The scoring is objective. Whether the judges decide to look the other way when a mistake is made…that’s a different story. There are specific deductions depending on the error. Now, difficulty is also included in the score… a lot of variables that the crowd doesn’t always see.
Just a lesson in propaganda: For the first two performances the video showed the two landings .. But for the Russian they did NOT show the landing. Why? Maybe that contributed to his score being lower? I'm not saying the whole thing is a lie, but it's very important to notice things like what was shown and what WASN'T shown. Everything that's in and NOT in this video is all deliberate choice. QUESTION EVERYTHING
This is why I love track and field. You run faster you win, you throw further you win, you jump higher you win. Sports that are judged like gymnastics and ice skating and dancing can be bought off and manipulated. Corrupt judges!
Yes, we are! Does it mean we should go around and shout at every handsome guy (or pretty lady) we see in real life or online? There is nothing wrong with expressing Your awe but doing so publicly will become tiring very fast 😉
@@piotrtoborek2442 The beauty is, there is no rule. You didn't have to respond to my comment if you thought it was irrelevant to your brain but perhaps some insecurity within chose to come out...better question is, who hurt you?
@@dinh5532 Hahaha! I am simply trying to understand people expressing themselves online like that... Nobody hurt me, I think I have different personality type than You - in fact this seems to be the solution 😀 Have a good day!
The judges thought that they have the sole decision scoring a gymnast performance. They didn't know that there is a crowd who can't be fooled that would judge them.
That is just terrible. So many years of travel, practice, sacrifice for athletics, families & countries. Cheapens the medals awarded... no honor or glory in an I'll gotten award.
Same shit in the figure skating competitions. In the end they had to let an algorithm calculate the average score to make it more fair, yet they still mess it up.
I remember watching that when I was a kid. He was absolutely FLAWLESS in his performance, and it just goes to show how biased judging sports in the Olympics are.
2004. Athens. Greece. The home of the Olympic Games. Greeks know what justice means and they cannot accept anything else. Not like the french, in the 2024 OG.
Sports are supposed to be about honor and integrity. Sadly this is too often not the case. It's a beautiful thing when the fans step in and show their own honor and integrity :)
There's always been corruption in Olympic judging. Roy Jones Jr losing his gold medal boxing match was the worst judging I have ever seen in any sport in all of history
I remember that one as well, it was egregious. If I recall correctly, NBC commentators said that in the final round the Korean fighter was going to need a knockout (pretty rare in Olympic boxing I think) to have a chance.
@@mattm56 yup, literally the last thing the announcers said as they were about to call the gold was something like "thos is the most obvious result possible, if Rot does not win the gold then something is seriously wrong"
THAT POOR ATHLETE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN PLACED INTO THE POSITION OF HAVING TO TRY TO CALM THE PEOPLE DOWN *JUST STOP TREATING “SOME” FOLKS BETTER OR WORSE THAN ANYBODY ELSE, AND GIVE THEM THE SCORES THEY ACTUALLY DESERVE IN THE FIRST PLACE!!* I’ve already made up my mind to never watch another event (at least in any way the Olympics can profit from), and I’m aware of entire Church’s worth of people who are proudly boycotting it too, because regardless of whether any of them had the COURAGE to just admit what they were mocking or NOT (which they obviously didn’t), people KNOW what they were actually doing but I honestly think that THEY BELIEVED nobody would be brave enough to truly be upset. “Certain” groups almost always underestimate Christians/Christianity.
The routine of the Russian gymnast is incredible, as is his good heart and love for his sport and respect for the audience. The judges better not talk. Russia number 1 in men's gymnastics
in the 2008 olympics, the Chinese weightlifter got the best lift, but for unknown reasons the judges decided his lift was invalid, and forced him to lift again, so that guy had to lift a 4th time after already exhausting his strength with his prior 4 lifts, he still got the highest score in the end, the judges had nothing more to say
That's when you lost the competition but won the hearts and respect of the audiences...
No one can 'defeat true' champion, although he did'nt win.
Harke vi Dil jitnewale ko baazigar kehte hai.......
But that respect and hearts doesn't pay his tax bills right
And his name is ...
MONEY SLUTS RULE EVERYTHING.
The Russian gymnast who asked for calm apparently not only won the audience but showed real sportsmanship!
He won something more important than a medal. He has the respect of the world.
@@lisakaufman7366 So true, BUT he worked his whole life to be here today..very disappointed 💔
Who care about the gymnast when his country murders thousands of Ukrainians every day. Screw the russians and the horse they rode in on.
In 20 years from now nobody will remember how humble he was. You should have push the crowd on
TRUE!
The judges must be getting paid by someone. They should be jailed and ban form Judging.
Yes definitely bias
Jailed 😂 for what
@@antr_ Like all garbage in a box DUH.
@@antr_ score tsmpering is an actual crime in the olympics. If judges are suspected of bias they can be brought before a committee and not only be fired and banned from ever judging events in any country that takes part in the olympics, but could face fines or jail time if their considered to be profiling agansy one specific country.
@@Rajah_P._SonnetI understand getting banned but how are you realistically going to get jail time when you are judging such meticulous detail solely by eye in REAL time? How could you ever differentiate a bad judge from a corrupt one?
Poor guy. How humble though, he’s great. The true winner that day.
He won gold no matter what for his integrity and great sportsmanship
Corruption is everywhere. Most disconcerting.
It’s not corruption the video just didn’t report the story accurately.
You’re a Democrat right?
Because it’s always Democrats who think whatever they hear online is true.
Watch the routine and see his huge step. The code of points giving Morgan Hamm a 10 start value was the problem. 😮 Cassina's routine. The spectacular twisting move you always see in the finals these days is named for him.
True, state run doping athletic teams should be permanently banned
This just proves the scoring for subjective events is a joke. Just like Drew Cary said, “the score is made up and the points don’t matter”
@@craigjones7343 Nah it just proved the American did a better performance.
Good for that audience! Not stopping for that long is very impactful a statement! ❤
Nothing but a mob making chioces of talent
@@noblesavage8332 No the crowd saw he was wronged and voiced it to the judges.
Nice ! Now that’s the people standing up for what’s right . ❤ love it !
I remember this. Alexei Nemov was not only beautiful, he was one of the greatest gymnasts of all time. This was in Athens, Greece, and so this wasn't even a Russian crowd. The head of Olympic Gymnastics was the one that ordered the score be changed. Still disappointing that Nemov didn't win but unforgettable.
Absolutely they called him sexy alexi. He was sooo good in every category he competed in.
This man was my childhood right there.. Sexy Lexi lol
Thanks. Now with his name, I can look up more info.
Dang how did I miss this guy 😅 what a spunk
Yes, I remember him.
This man is a good guy and should be respected even when he has a right to be the victim he humbly thanked the audience for their support and asked them to let it go.
Gracious of him to come out and acknowledge the crowd
He even earned respect from supporters of other country
That gymnast looked like a class act. Made the judges look incompetent
The judges are incompetent. Shameful.
They work for the IOC of course they’re incompetent & corrupt
Not incompetent. Complete jerks.
He definitely illuminated such 👍👍
The whole Olympics is corrupt. Did you watch the insane opening ceremony !?
You could see that it wasn't just his country supporting him. The world united in that moment.
Yeah sure, lets all unite over some jock doing his thing and forget about the rape of Ukraine by the bloodthirsty KJB thug putin. This Russian gymnast would not have been on the team if he had the guts to speak out about putin. Many are still in prison for daring to call it a war, much less an invasion.
No it was just his country and he got beat by the American because the American did more complex stunts.
❤❤❤
When victory was stolen from you, but the crowd acknowledged that you won, and you acknowledged winning the hearts and respect of the audience.
This is why I feel that ANY event where the winner is decided by a person's OPINION is NOT A SPORT.
This is why definitions shouldn't be pulled from one's backside.
It's tough to argue with that..!!!
🐕👍🕶
Finished 5th in the competition but 1st in the people's hearts
Well said
Not really Russian bot😂
People have a change of "heart" by the second
He deserved 1st & I'm American...he was great!
Most rigged competition ever
That young man may may not have wonn gold but he has a heart of gold.
You will be respected forever.
He won quite a few Olympic Medals in the previous 2 Olympics and won a International Fair Play award for his actions in that event.
So he had already earned his accolades. Good. That made me feel better. He still deserved a gold medal here though.
@@WonderWhatHappened So how old was he when he got his first medal?
@@WonderWhatHappened
What is International Fair Play Award?
Because he let the yankee after got into the arena and won?
@@siewheilou399 The award is presented to an athlete, coach or official in recognition of an outstanding act of fair play and sportsmanship displayed during the past year. This award is presented annually at the U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Assembly.
@@WonderWhatHappened
So it is a yankee thing, more like an insult.
Even in fifth place he came in first with the crowd, who were the real unbiased judges because they recognized his skill, ability and true sportsmanship!
I remember that. He really deserved first, it was such rigged judging.
AMERICAN: I TOTALLY AGREE!!!!
Dont Blame Putins Behavior On The Russian Athletes!
I stopped watching gymnastics 20+ years ago because the judging has always been rigged. I only watch events that don't rely on scoring since those are the only ones you can be certain have a level of fairness to them.
Judging in the Olympics being rigged? Say it isn’t so!! /S
Just like it was in the 60s 70 80s when the Russians owned the judging it wasn't fair then
@@KevinCovington5453yes I do blame them
This is a real sportsman.He won the hearts of audiences. Sometimes because of the said judge is final.But can't denied that performances was so great.
I remember it... At the time we were huge gymnastics fans and were watching it religiously. Gymnastics was often a political game more than a fairplay competition.
More like when Russia and America were competing hard right alongside China
What year was this ?
@@Beauzesta It was in 2004 at the Olympics, his name was/is Alexei Nemov
@@finalfanvii6822 you might want to check what the situation was in 2004! In the men's team competition Japan won gold, US won silver, Romania won bronze. US only got two other medals in men's competition, the same as China, Italy, South Korea and Japan, while Romania got 3. In women's competition Romania won gold in the team competition followed by US and Russia. China won a single medal in all around, US won 5 medals, Romania 5 as well, Russia 1.
All judged competitions are political. Especially the Olympics. This happened in figure skating, too, a while back.
The judges made backroom deals to vote for each other's teams
The most important thing was he was loved by the audience...that was very encouraging than a gold medal...salute to this gymnast...you showed the world how respectful you are😊
It wasn’t necessarily about corruption, but rather about a really bad judging system. What the audience liked and how the system worked was quite different, this “scandal” led to changes in the judging criteria 👍
It’s sad I think he deserved a medal, but luckily for him he already had four 4️⃣ Olympic gold medals 🥇
No, gymnastic scoring has always been influenced by geopolitics
The gymnast was what we all wish this world would become…courageous and humble! ❤❤❤❤❤
That's why sports without scientifically measured results are vulnerable to scam.
There are many technical elements to gymnastics and it’s scoring.
There is definitely a subjectivity to the sport as some judges hve different angles and therefore see different things.
A score can’t be changed just cause of booing, the video probably didn’t include that the coaches submitted an inquiry to change the score (which us allowed)
Inquiries for gymnastics can be approved, declined, or even take away points from the original score
Because people make assumptions?
Anything that is judged by humans will ALWAYS be unfair. These judges in particular were obviously bought off
If it's subjective, then it's no more a sport than a beauty competition.
@@Mark-l9k9q a lot of sports have subjectivity. Baseball, soccer, football, and many other sports are also subjective. That’s why they have refs to make calls. And fans of those sports are much more likely to boo or argue when a ref makes a call they don’t like. A bit of Subjectivity doesn’t make this any less of a sport
The gymnast had such grace and dignity calming a crowd down that was trying to get him 1st
That athlete is a real peoples champ.❤
Dude has a good heart and excellent sportsmanship
I remember watching this. Nemov did a remarkable job with release skills but he took a huge step on his landing, which was an automatic .2 deduction that the judges could not overrule. The crowd didn't seem to understand that. Had he not taken that step, he would have EASILY won first, but he was scored fairly due to the step. I believe he understood that and that's why he asked the crowd to stop protesting. It was very classy of him, and at least within the gymnastics world, his placement in this competition is not seen as controversial.
The men's all-around, on the other hand, was a legitimate disaster and one of the biggest scandals in gymnastics history. That's the one to be mad about, not this one.
Yes. And most gymnasts would rather not do a difficult skill but execute it and land it well than do a high difficulty and risk getting deduction for doing it poorly.
Por isso que eu não gosto mais de ginástica artística.
When was this?
@@redelfshotthefood8213 2004 Athens Olympics.
@@SweetSirenia Thank you!
He deserved 1st place! He was GREAT!!!!
I remember this! I was so pissed he didn’t win. But I’m glad he got his flowers later with the Fair Play award.
When your score is based on someones judgment, the results are often inaccurate.
No matter how difficult a gymnast's routine is, the max score would always be 10, this is the problem, with old 10-scoring system. Other gymnasts can have an easier routine with all the requirements fulfilled, and some bonus here and there and they would get a ten, a more difficult element will not be reward, because of the scoring limitation. That's why in 2006, fig introduced the new scoring system called the Open ended scoring, where the difficulty of each element is given more importance.
What needs to happen is judges need to be more confortable giving 4s, 5s, 6s, or even lower. In almost every competition that has judges scoring, scores are _so_ inflated. A 30/40 is more lile a 15/40 in most cases.
@@PandaFan2443it's because the scoring should be consistent across all competitions. At Olympic or world championship level only the very best athletes are even there, so what seems like a bad routine by Olympic standards is still a fantastic routine overall and rightly scores highly. The new scoring system is much better though for allowing scores to scale up at high levels without getting cramped at the top end
He definitely should’ve won 🥇!! Unfortunately, the judges cast their votes against his country, not FOR his performance. They should be ashamed of themselves and never be allowed to rate another Olympic performance. The Russian athlete showed those judges who the true champion was, in class, integrity AND respect. His actions, along with his performance, will cause him to be forever remembered as The People’s Champion for a very long time. Knowing that another athlete was waiting to perform, he stood, showed love to the crowd who was booing the unjust judges, and pleaded with them to be quiet. Even though he was upset, he considered the other athletes. I watched his performance and he was amazing!! He finished 5th, when he should’ve finished 1st!! As far as I’m concerned, his performance was rated SOLID GOLD!!
Only 2 years after the biggest judging scandal in figure skating yet again between the eastern and western block.
That was bold of them to even try. His skills were superior ❤
Reminds me of the song, "your the fastest runner but your not allowed to win", once again, where's the justice when the justice has been bought and paid for
This is the Olympics where the judges get paid out 💵💸
Paid off
Paid on
Paid in
This is the comment where people forget what happens "when you assume"...
What a class gymnist from Russia....he definitely won the gold in my opinion.
Bro just won
The entire point of sports is the emotion of people not the medal
I remember this competition. Sexy Lexei was a wonderful gentleman. He was robbed and everyone in that arena knew the judges were corrupt.
What some people commenting on here need to remember is while Nemov performed all those amazing releases, he like everyone else who medaled had a max score of 10.0 which was the scoring system at the time. He didn’t stick his landing and had a large step forward which resulted in a .2 deduction which was apart of the rules at that time. Meaning the max score he could had received was a 9.8 due the deduction. The rest of his scores were 9.75 which makes sense due to judges finding small things here and there. If he would had stuck the landing, he very likely would had won the gold.
you do know it was rigged, anti russian sentiment seeped in even back then
Well I'm no expert but the 2 previous contestants definitely stepped back or failed to nail the dismount BUT the difficulty of the Russians performance was a first place performance! He was robbed!
I've watched this over and over. The first guy was the only one I saw, not to stick the landing.
Oh, I will never forget this moment, the Athens Olympics. I talk about it to this day, was on holiday from Junior Secondary School and the Olympics was on. During this event, I kept booing at the TV too, and I made sure to regal my family (at different turns mind you) with all the details.
That's when I understood what the power of the people was meant to look like.
I was so young couldn't recall the country or even his name, thank you for this video. The young man is still my hero.
These judges are the ones who bring disrepute to sports.
No,he took a step when landing being an automatic .2 points deduction the judges could not overrule
Blame the scoring not the judges
I always said the Olympics are rigged- when a Russian gymnast in the 80s was outstanding and she didn’t win, I was baffled then and thought the judging was biased!🤷🏼♀️
Alexei is the greatest male gymnast to date. He was classy in this sham.
He waa such a lovely guy. Always humble, no swaggering or arrogance from him. Thats mistly why the crowd was rooting for him here.
And he was sexy af!!!
This is why we should NEVER judge a people by the actions of their government.
You give the best comment
Talent deserves its rightful place.
You should praise him for his skill, not for what country he comes from
True but he got to the Olympics because the country (maybe somewhat) paid for his training and development.
@@nomad82912 and your point is....??!
@@nomad82912I second the other person who replied to you. Please explain your point because, for the life of me, I can’t see a valid one.
@@vegetapt9144 it's really hard for athlete's to qualify for the olympics without undergoing a structured training regime. Sure they could have raw talent in their youth but that talent has to be refined and polished by being trained by the best coaches, pt's, choreographers, equipment (if needed). All of this costs money via sponsorships, stipends or government sponsored training. Sure you can get private sponsors for some tournaments but if you're representing a country, the government will be involved in this process.
I don't think he's praised for the country, though. (who exactly are you talking about, the narrator, the crowd?) It does sound weird how the voice says 'a japanese gymnast', 'an american g', 'a russian g'. Could have said the names maybe. Saying one gymnast, a second/another one and a third one would be too confusing I think. 😅 As for the crowd, th Olympics being in Europe and Russia being close, maybe he had more supporters than Americans or Asians, that's just natural. Then the wheel turns at a competition held in the US...
That’s a prime example when judges can’t be impartial.
When this happens charges should be laid Honda judges four referees
Yea man those Honda judges sure are something
Wait till you hear about the Toyota judges, oh boy
Yes, Honda's ASIMO should be judging these events, as he is guaranteed to be a truly impartial observer.
What charges, and is it based on anything but guesswork from a TH-cam short?
This is why I say gymnastics is NOT a sport. Anything that is based on a person’s opinion it isn’t a sport. Athletic, YES. Sport, NO!
Figure skating 🚫 Diving 🚫 Ballroom Dancing 🚫
The scoring is objective. Whether the judges decide to look the other way when a mistake is made…that’s a different story. There are specific deductions depending on the error. Now, difficulty is also included in the score… a lot of variables that the crowd doesn’t always see.
@@alyshaalberts5694 go back and look at the figure skating scandal of 2002
Just a lesson in propaganda:
For the first two performances the video showed the two landings ..
But for the Russian they did NOT show the landing. Why? Maybe that contributed to his score being lower?
I'm not saying the whole thing is a lie, but it's very important to notice things like what was shown and what WASN'T shown. Everything that's in and NOT in this video is all deliberate choice.
QUESTION EVERYTHING
This is why I love track and field. You run faster you win, you throw further you win, you jump higher you win. Sports that are judged like gymnastics and ice skating and dancing can be bought off and manipulated. Corrupt judges!
Judges were disgusting. They cheated that gymnast. 😡😡😡
He lost the competition but won the life challenge. ❤
Nemov was divine.
When you realize fan is short for fanatic. And corruption is everywhere.
He was so handsome too!
And this is relevant because...?
@@piotrtoborek2442 We're human.
Yes, we are!
Does it mean we should go around and shout at every handsome guy (or pretty lady) we see in real life or online?
There is nothing wrong with expressing Your awe but doing so publicly will become tiring very fast 😉
@@piotrtoborek2442 The beauty is, there is no rule. You didn't have to respond to my comment if you thought it was irrelevant to your brain but perhaps some insecurity within chose to come out...better question is, who hurt you?
@@dinh5532 Hahaha!
I am simply trying to understand people expressing themselves online like that...
Nobody hurt me, I think I have different personality type than You - in fact this seems to be the solution 😀
Have a good day!
The Russian gymnist showed class in calming the crowd, in order to let the games continue, and certainly won the hearts of the people.
The judges thought that they have the sole decision scoring a gymnast performance. They didn't know that there is a crowd who can't be fooled that would judge them.
So sad and disgusting when judges are so corrupt and incompetent!
Sports that rely on judges to score were never fair to begin with..
Like referees? Or is that somehow different?
That is just terrible. So many years of travel, practice, sacrifice for athletics, families & countries. Cheapens the medals awarded... no honor or glory in an I'll gotten award.
Same shit in the figure skating competitions. In the end they had to let an algorithm calculate the average score to make it more fair, yet they still mess it up.
They really do need to come up with something better than these human judges. The corruption is entirely too transparent
You can not believe in the authenticity or integrity of anything anymore...
Know the full story first
I remember watching that when I was a kid. He was absolutely FLAWLESS in his performance, and it just goes to show how biased judging sports in the Olympics are.
Politics involved in peoples sports disgusting
He was the heart of a great Olympic moment. I hope he's satisfied with his grace.
That's so messed up. How could they be so blatantly corrupt? Shame on them.
The Olympics used to be something I would get excited about
Alexei Nemov! He is one of my most favorite in artistic gymnastics. He is so good.
They shouldn't be judges, and don't deserve to be judges, due to their actions
It's not a sport if the score is subjective. It's a contest.
2004.
Athens.
Greece.
The home of the Olympic Games.
Greeks know what justice means and they cannot accept anything else.
Not like the french, in the 2024 OG.
Sports are supposed to be about honor and integrity. Sadly this is too often not the case. It's a beautiful thing when the fans step in and show their own honor and integrity :)
There's always been corruption in Olympic judging. Roy Jones Jr losing his gold medal boxing match was the worst judging I have ever seen in any sport in all of history
I remember that one as well, it was egregious. If I recall correctly, NBC commentators said that in the final round the Korean fighter was going to need a knockout (pretty rare in Olympic boxing I think) to have a chance.
@@mattm56 yup, literally the last thing the announcers said as they were about to call the gold was something like "thos is the most obvious result possible, if Rot does not win the gold then something is seriously wrong"
Alexei had class and was an amazing gymnastic. I saw him and the rest of the Russian team perform right before the Sydney Olympics.
❤ SO BEAUTIFUL. ALL DIFFERENT COUNTRY MEN BOOING. IT WAS ABOUT FAIRNESS AND EXCELLENCE NOT POLITICS. THE PEOPLE RULE❤❤❤
It's good to see that it wasn't just the home country booing
That Russian gymnast was clearly much better.
Now that, ladies and gentleman, is class.
Politics ALWAYS meddles in EVERYTHING. 😢😢
The judges should leave politics out of it! At least the crowd stepped up on behalf of fairness.
Some one in the know should and must expose the names of those shameful so-called judges to the world and let them be condemned by the world. Period.
THAT POOR ATHLETE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN PLACED INTO THE POSITION OF HAVING TO TRY TO CALM THE PEOPLE DOWN *JUST STOP TREATING “SOME” FOLKS BETTER OR WORSE THAN ANYBODY ELSE, AND GIVE THEM THE SCORES THEY ACTUALLY DESERVE IN THE FIRST PLACE!!*
I’ve already made up my mind to never watch another event (at least in any way the Olympics can profit from), and I’m aware of entire Church’s worth of people who are proudly boycotting it too, because regardless of whether any of them had the COURAGE to just admit what they were mocking or NOT (which they obviously didn’t), people KNOW what they were actually doing but I honestly think that THEY BELIEVED nobody would be brave enough to truly be upset.
“Certain” groups almost always underestimate Christians/Christianity.
Olympics has gone off the rails
The Russian gymnast showed tremendous class.
Should never be a sport on judging.....never correct... should be win or lose....not by people not participating in the sport...
To be unforgettable is winning prize or no prize
Immortalized in unforgettable awesome
The routine of the Russian gymnast is incredible, as is his good heart and love for his sport and respect for the audience. The judges better not talk. Russia number 1 in men's gymnastics
I agree! The fix was obviously in! A pox on the judges.
Bro was done dirty no 🧢
Russian people are great people even if we don't like their government.
in the 2008 olympics, the Chinese weightlifter got the best lift, but for unknown reasons the judges decided his lift was invalid, and forced him to lift again, so that guy had to lift a 4th time after already exhausting his strength with his prior 4 lifts, he still got the highest score in the end, the judges had nothing more to say
The judges be like: I was gonna judge a contest, but then I got high!
He is a great gymnast and a super good sport. A credit to his team.
That's why I HATE the Olympics. Human bias makes it unpleasant to watch.