You mentioned before that the matchup against lock rogue is like 70/30 but I feel like it's almost 90/10 in their favour at this point. Without the gear warlocks are tanky as shit while rogues are like cotton candy. And you can't even go rogue, so they benefit form the situation more since you're slamming your heads against a brick wall while they're casually rolling over a cardboard box. Wonder what it'll look like when y'all will have full season gear in a couple of months
Actually now its a 50-50 even i'd say as locks are by far the most gear and resil dependant class. In later seasons it gets 90-10 cuz mage wont get dmg done on lock with the instant Spams xar is doing
@@_Realign_ how can it be 50/50 if the best RogueMage in NA is struggling against it in practically all of their matches? I'm not saying Chan and Snutz are bad, they're all of equal calibre and that's the point. They're all equal mechanically and experience wise, how come they lose so much more? It's about the match up not the players, and gear only makes it worse for RM.
Well imo nahj isnt playing it too well as he gets deleted everytime. And i wouldnt call them the best RM just cuz they are farming shitters lol. I Played tbc for 10 years and my eyes bleed while looking at the enemies in some of those games :D not to mention that the rating system is a joke compared to old tbc, they almost lose 0 rating and gain huge amounts even against trash teams. You can see against the other LR team that you can actually do quite some dmg into a 0 resil lock with a hit and run tactic. Mage got way more defenses at this gear state so its defo possible to survive the 1v1 long enough.
@@_Realign_ they are objectively the best NA RogueMage and one of the best RogueMages in the world you simply cannot deny that. That is a factual statement and not an opinion. Nahj is playing better than 99,9%of the rogues out there. Let him play the game for a bit and he'll adapt easily. Your 10years or private server experience mean nothing. And the rating system in place is working as intended. They have all the code form back then, if you compare it to the private servers with the elo hell they have there it's your delusions of how things should be. I bet you wouldn't stand a chance against them in a series. Chillax
Xaryu, I'm pretty sure you can spell steal warlock void sacrifice. I could be wrong, but very worth checking into, cause a few against chanimal would have been wins for you if this is the case. Very respectfully, :)
@Arthur Silva wow.. a genuinely nice person on the Internet, about WoW nonetheless lol. I’m shocked! Thank you for that! That genuinely made me feel better about myself lol. Thank you so much for that Arthur! ✌🏻
You can't, Lock will just eat you alive while fearing you away from the rogue. You have to keep the lock uncomfortable and hopefully kill him before he kills you.
@@Dying4pie2180 once the rogue comes out you blind the lock/ cc and kill the rogue. If the lock trinkets it’s better. As for the fears you just hold cloak trinkets wof and even ice block. I played back in TBC as lock/rouge at 2100 and I just remembered my rogue would get pressured and MR matchup became a 50/50. Also this was season two.
@@jamesalton1903 TBC back then is nothing compared to Chan and Snutz now. You really think Snutz is going to open before The rogue/mage do? He'd just play time while Chan slowly kills Xaryu. Snutz would hardly ever be in an over extended position he would cloak Vanish and be out of there the second they CC the lock and target him. You have to try and get Chan down as quick as possible. Going after the rogue in this current patch is a death sentence.
@@jamesalton1903 if it was Feasible they would have tried to do it. but it is truly not right now. The only way to win those games is to kill the lock. This Is Xaryu and Nahj 2 of the best Arena players in the world, if they thought they could win by going rogue don't you think they would have tried it once? It's just not a possibility. Especially against legitimate professional players.
Because I come here for original content not something false. I already unsubscribed from asmongold I'm tired of streamers making content purely for money.
@@Vordoc00 nope people usually avoid me because I'm real and honest and they want fake shit from 13years ago and they don't care if they have to lie about it. World first happened 13 years ago.
Snuts and Chanimal are the final boss of TBC
Not really. 1v1 they aren't that good. There gear Carry's them.
@@larrychandler607 ????????????????????????????????????
No warlock should be this tanky!Its broken af
@@larrychandler607 lmao hell no, those are top tier players, wake the fk up
Not to mention lock/sub is the best comp in tbc lol
Damn those snutz chan matches 👀
You mentioned before that the matchup against lock rogue is like 70/30 but I feel like it's almost 90/10 in their favour at this point. Without the gear warlocks are tanky as shit while rogues are like cotton candy. And you can't even go rogue, so they benefit form the situation more since you're slamming your heads against a brick wall while they're casually rolling over a cardboard box.
Wonder what it'll look like when y'all will have full season gear in a couple of months
Lock gets better and tankier
Actually now its a 50-50 even i'd say as locks are by far the most gear and resil dependant class. In later seasons it gets 90-10 cuz mage wont get dmg done on lock with the instant Spams xar is doing
@@_Realign_ how can it be 50/50 if the best RogueMage in NA is struggling against it in practically all of their matches?
I'm not saying Chan and Snutz are bad, they're all of equal calibre and that's the point. They're all equal mechanically and experience wise, how come they lose so much more? It's about the match up not the players, and gear only makes it worse for RM.
Well imo nahj isnt playing it too well as he gets deleted everytime. And i wouldnt call them the best RM just cuz they are farming shitters lol. I Played tbc for 10 years and my eyes bleed while looking at the enemies in some of those games :D not to mention that the rating system is a joke compared to old tbc, they almost lose 0 rating and gain huge amounts even against trash teams. You can see against the other LR team that you can actually do quite some dmg into a 0 resil lock with a hit and run tactic. Mage got way more defenses at this gear state so its defo possible to survive the 1v1 long enough.
@@_Realign_ they are objectively the best NA RogueMage and one of the best RogueMages in the world you simply cannot deny that. That is a factual statement and not an opinion.
Nahj is playing better than 99,9%of the rogues out there. Let him play the game for a bit and he'll adapt easily. Your 10years or private server experience mean nothing.
And the rating system in place is working as intended. They have all the code form back then, if you compare it to the private servers with the elo hell they have there it's your delusions of how things should be.
I bet you wouldn't stand a chance against them in a series. Chillax
yoyo, can I get the name of the first song (the first 4 seconds)? tyty
Xaryu, I'm pretty sure you can spell steal warlock void sacrifice. I could be wrong, but very worth checking into, cause a few against chanimal would have been wins for you if this is the case. Very respectfully, :)
Doesn't work in TBC, came with Wrath.
@@AdmiringBlue Ahh okay, I wasn't sure, I appreciate the correction!
@@AdmiringBlue you 100% can spellsteal void sacrifice, hence the yellow border. I do it every game with lock rogue
Why nahj is diein so fast vs snutz and chan is it a lack of pill or no reset cause Snutz was healthy along is it the power of health stone ?
Hey bro just curious why you guys aren’t going rogue when your facing Snutz sl lock rogue? Isn’t it much much easier to kill the rogue there?
Had the same thought.
because lock can spam fear, rogue can cloak their go and vanish, harder to kill a rogue
in TBC warlock should be the kill target most of the times, if you let the lock do its thing then those matches would have been over much faster
@@millerthomas4331 very interesting
Warlocks seem pretty broken lmao
nothing new
this looks so much more enjoyable than retail wow
Agreed
Hahaha
It is bro, it is.
Yeah. Getting resisted on frost novas sure is fun
Too much going on in retail man, tbc is nice and simple
Man.. Only priests mages Rogues and warlocks 😂 WHERE ARE THE OTHER CLASSES
Warrs are there too warrs and resto shits on everything
@@SFBay69 it doesn't lol, warrior/rdruid is decent, but doesnt become rly strong until s3+
Warrs resto (druid) is ez for mage rogue
Just wait till wrath and face Warr/Hpal every game
@@rasdh0706 yup. It counters everything. Only dk unholy/disci can stand a chance
min 3 I'm still waiting for him to cast some magic that is not instantaneous
min 10 I'm still waiting for some magic to load
1h has passed and we confirm that the mague goes up to 2k + just snapshots
Nah there was a channel or 2 in there lmaooooo
Good stuff xar
bro pls what is that addon called ? that shows ur partners CDs
Where are the warriors at? :P
You guys are craaaazyyy!
whats Nahj build
Imagine being good. I could never 😭
Right.. I’m like 2 wins away from 2400 on retail. I think I’m pretty decent until I watch the pros play, and realize that 2400 is still trash leagues.
@Arthur Silva wow.. a genuinely nice person on the Internet, about WoW nonetheless lol. I’m shocked! Thank you for that! That genuinely made me feel better about myself lol. Thank you so much for that Arthur! ✌🏻
@Arthur Silva this guy is speaking truth
@Arthur Silva hahahaha ayyeeeeee I see what you did there!!! Haha 😆
@@jessecosta9483 yea this game is a job to most of these players who play at least 10 hrs a day, dont compare yourself
Even when losing against a team rated 140 below you, you only lose 2 rating???
Welcome to the inflated ranking system that was tbc
@@TheJaredSims tard they implemented this ranking method from retail. TBC ranking was totally different
Legend!♥️
Why dont you spell steal the warlocks bubble on rogue\lock?
Doesn't work in tbc, came with Wrath.
raiku is 2400 wtf ? xD
I think they hit 2200 before. Xar is just making episodes out of race to 2.2k
Where the mage priests at 😲
Warlock king of tbc 2v2
But i like the shadow / bm hunter burst 😀
Retail players at the top😬
my boy xaryu looks kinda emaciated recently :( u doin good? everything fine and just new goals / diat?
Even if you lose 100% vs rogue lock, mage rogue can win more coms
thats not true lol. rogue lock beats pretty much everything
4:02 so much pointless ass mechanic movement lmao
Your ui makes it so hard to see what your doin
he litteraly have the cleanest and minimalist ui ..
u need more spell pen to hit the lock zz
Undead ftw.
cabuloso !!
Nice
Poggers
Streamers are turning into click baiters.
Kill rogue first kill snutz
US first*
this is so bad...
all enemies was like 1650
no?
@@pollo4992 yes
Vs lock rogue just kill the rogue
You can't, Lock will just eat you alive while fearing you away from the rogue. You have to keep the lock uncomfortable and hopefully kill him before he kills you.
@@Dying4pie2180 once the rogue comes out you blind the lock/ cc and kill the rogue. If the lock trinkets it’s better. As for the fears you just hold cloak trinkets wof and even ice block. I played back in TBC as lock/rouge at 2100 and I just remembered my rogue would get pressured and MR matchup became a 50/50. Also this was season two.
@@jamesalton1903 TBC back then is nothing compared to Chan and Snutz now. You really think Snutz is going to open before The rogue/mage do? He'd just play time while Chan slowly kills Xaryu. Snutz would hardly ever be in an over extended position he would cloak Vanish and be out of there the second they CC the lock and target him. You have to try and get Chan down as quick as possible. Going after the rogue in this current patch is a death sentence.
@@Dying4pie2180 with the skill all these players have I’m pretty sure they could get snutz while avoiding Chans cc. Idk only time will tell.
@@jamesalton1903 if it was Feasible they would have tried to do it. but it is truly not right now. The only way to win those games is to kill the lock. This Is Xaryu and Nahj 2 of the best Arena players in the world, if they thought they could win by going rogue don't you think they would have tried it once? It's just not a possibility. Especially against legitimate professional players.
“Retail streamers and competitive players have no chance against private server gods like Mir” ... that shit didn’t age well 😂
Mir is on EU and 350 rating above every other team in every bracket atm, so it's true, NA literally only has retail players in it 0.o
Mir's 3s team is at 2.5k right now with 109-7 .
@@isaac2746 hot damn
most private server top players are EU, so...
2200, clearly gets 2100 lol
KEKW
Read the title
Title says “part 1900-2100”
@@DreyskillFTW KEKW
Not a world first. The world first happened like 13 years ago.
For Burning Crusade yeah, not Burning Crusade Classic
Why is this a comment on literally everything. Just trying to kill the vibe.
Because I come here for original content not something false. I already unsubscribed from asmongold I'm tired of streamers making content purely for money.
@@larrychandler607 I bet you're a blast at parties man. He is the first 2200 in TBCC. But go off king.
@@Vordoc00 nope people usually avoid me because I'm real and honest and they want fake shit from 13years ago and they don't care if they have to lie about it. World first happened 13 years ago.
Rogue mage????? My friend is at 2200 rated Rogue Mage with no comms. This comp takes no skill or comms.
play something else. rogue mage is the most op comp in the history of the game.
P.S. mind quickening gem should be deleted and all mages abusing it should get their rating reset.