A few updates as comments roll in, I'll continue to update this thread as we get more suggestions! 1- Updated Talents in the Description, talents shown on the video had been changed around a lot. Official talents in description! 2- My explanation of Mastery got a bit jumbled. Mastery stacks increase healing done to a specific target with those hots on them. It does not increase your overall healing to ALL targets. 3- You should use Ursol's Vortex BEFORE Typhoon, so you don't mess up the pack density and troll the group. 4- Rejuvenation can be used during movement phases. 5- Getting some comments on Wildstalker being strong as well. Apparently its feeling pretty good, will do an updated video if it ends up becoming meta. But the highest keys in beta were KOTG. So sticking with this format for now. 6- Fluid forms - can be taken and you can utilize it in Single Target scenarios to get bleeds up. Going cat form to apply bleeds will be about a 10-15% increase in dps for single target damage, but will require shifting some talents around to get there.
@@Baha0117 Nah not at all! So the string of characters, you can copy and paste that into your talent tree in game. There's an "import" dropdown, and you can just copy and paste that string and get the exact talents!
This might be the first time I have ever written a TH-cam comment. You opened my eyes for resto druid. Realizing that not using reju is actually beneficial and heck, even the correct option was eye-opening for this expansion. I thank you for this guide and hope that u make more rdruid guides in the future. Thank you!
Dude, very well done! You covered all the basics very well, I raid very little so most of my gameplay/thought process is pretty much always based around M+. We do have some different playstyles, I use cat form a lot because it's some good prio damage and can save me global when using skull bash (skull bash is off the GCD but shapeshift is not), something for the damage rotation that is bonkers right now is the blooming infusions proc. Tracking your blooming infusions is a MASSIVE increase to your AOE DPS, every 5 regrowth's you can have an instant Starfire. I have an audio cue for mine, when I hear the fart it's time to blast. It is part of your healing rotation, so it doesn't change your playstyle, but you only have a few seconds to spend the proc. I also use the vortex/typhoon combo the opposite for the most part, I vortex first and when the cast I am waiting for comes up I knock them all and vortex groups them so I don't throw the mobs everywhere. You have to be careful with knocks like these because it is possible to knock mobs behind the tank, even auto attacks in higher keys can poof the tank from behind. The mana return from master shapeshifter hasn't been enough for me to take it, I also try to get in the habit of drinking between every pull even if its for 5 seconds. Natures Swiftness is ALWAYS in the tree for me because I use it before every convoke for empowered regrowths, it has also been nice for the instant BREZ in some situations. Lots of great druid combos exist out there, ie bear form before AOE goes out and as soon as it hits you swiftmend / wildgrowth to send an empowered group heal. I may press rej more than most RDruids, but I try to never press it while standing still. It is my on the move button for dodging mechanics or moving in between groups. It does help a little getting your mastery rolling but for me it serves as a permanent place holder for swiftmend. As long as I always have 1 hot on each player I always have the ability to burst heal them. Sometimes swiftmend, natures swiftness, into regrowth will top them. I can sit here and ramble forever about RDruid lol, very well done man. Lots of great info in the video for those wanting to push RDruid. Looking forward to the Shaman guide coming out, great job bro.
Dang there's some big brain stuff in this comment, appreciate it a lot! I'll incorporate a lot of this into my S2 guide. Really like the vortex typhoon idea. I was always messing up packs by typhooning first. I've been running improved regrowth and it feels very good. Any way to get that and nature's swiftness both? Improved regrowth is so strong it seems like! I'll look into dropping master shapeshifer and see how it feels from a mana and throughput standpoint! I'll also make a macro for the swiftmend wild growth combo, I think that could be really helpful to make the combo more obvious. I'll try and add some of this stuff to the pinned comment and make sure it's in future guides, thanks for taking the time to write this out brotha!
@@RealmGamingWoW dude typhoon is so awesome but you can troll your group so much lol. Since I am in cat form a lot, I try to stay across from the tank instead of behind for obvious cleave reasons, but when it’s my turn to knock if I don’t vortex first I can throw the mob behind the tank and if the tank isn’t expecting or doesn’t react quick enough it’s bad. But the combo you were describing is also super valuable when kiting (prot pallys do this a lot) because you can keep your tank untouchable for several seconds. Situation dictates you know. So there is some major theory crafting going out on out there lol, honestly it will take some time for the dust to settle to see the best pathing/talents because you are right it’s so nice to be able to spam a LOHs as a Druid lol. It makes regrowth so strong, but I’m not convinced yet it’s a mandatory talent. Could change day 1 of M+ for me lol. I hate that master shape competes with liveliness because that’s just a great talent. When I do have mana issues I can combat them by drinking very often. I try to use this logic with all healers and avoid mana talents unless I have to have them (like raid where i can’t drink) M+ is just around the corner and can jumble a lot of things, you know how it is lol. Great guide bro!
@@OcelotTransfusion same! It’s just so much fun to play and incredibly strong. Bear form takes it to a whole new level lol. I didn’t play the beta so I don’t know all the cheese yet, but in HOI after the frog boss you could clear the deep chill dot by shifting and use your dispell on someone else. You can pair that with the swiftmend wildgrowth combo, bear before the AOE goes out and when you swiftmend it will take you out of bear form (clearing the dot) so you can cast wild growth. I’m very hopeful for RDruid in TWW! It will take me some time to get everything all dialed in.
This is a great video. I had given up on my friend the resto Druid after failing miserably in TWW heroics. I went to my MW and enjoy it but now seeing what I’ve been doing wrong I’m going to give my Druid another try. I’ve been playing it since Burning Crusade and didn’t really understand the changes in this expansion until this video. Thanks.
Just to let fellow healers know..vuhdo is a good healing frame addon but i def recommend Cell..its much cleaner and has everything in the options there to set it up easy..never using another healing addon again
Nice guide! I would recommend using soul of the forest procs on wild growth by default unless you absolutely need it for regrowth. There is a ton of healing using it this way.
Worth paying attention to what spell you cast after swiftmend as it will be empowered. Either regrowth or wild growth depensing what you need. Also reju is for preparation, and on the move some extra. Some bosses like Grim Batol 1st will make you move a lot, helps that you can cast it on the move. Also moving from pack to pack, you can mend on it aswell for on the move spothealing. Since master shapeshifter solves our mana issues as you said, you can afford it. Good guide btw. Found it just a bit too late as I figured out most stuff by now, but good guide nonetheless.
Starting new thread. Just tried. Takes some getting used to. Not including Rejuv in my rotation is a game changer as well as feels different. No deaths. Some close calls though :)
Good Guide :) But some parts are either confusing or maybe wrong. - "Control of the Dream" makes your cooldown not shorter in that regard it you just don't waste as much time and you can wait 15 sec when something comes of CD without the need to insta press it to don t waste a use in a run - Mastery stacks at 5:00 the stacks count per player so 2 lifeblooms out is not realy equal 6 stacks it is 2 times 3 stacks so every person you have lifebllom on with the talent get 3 times (Mastery %) more healing so here 21% sadly they don't stack on us so we do more healing that would be totaly overpowered.
Yes apologies I misspoke on the Mastery section! On the Control of the Dream, at 2:55 is where I explained the part you're talking about! Thanks for watching! =)
I tried this rotation, only thing I did different was using rejuv as a quick way to get out my swiftmends since it’s an instant cast (this is, of course, only when the target don’t have a consumable hot on them already). Is this wrong? Any reason why I shouldn’t do it?
I personally like to pair swift mend with regrowth, since regrowth is such a fast cast time and you'll get a lot more bang for your buck then using the global on rejuv. If you can remain station I would go regrowth into swiftmend if the target needs substantial healing, it should top them. For the combo you stated I would probably use it on movement phases where you can't remain stationary!
I'm thinking we will see major buffs from wildstalker, I think it will be a rework though which is why we didn't see any buffs in this most recent blue post.
you keep talking like stacks of mastery are accumulative on multiple people. NO THEYRE NOT. a hot on a friendly target only increases healing done to THEM. not healing YOU do to anyone.
A few updates as comments roll in, I'll continue to update this thread as we get more suggestions!
1- Updated Talents in the Description, talents shown on the video had been changed around a lot. Official talents in description!
2- My explanation of Mastery got a bit jumbled. Mastery stacks increase healing done to a specific target with those hots on them. It does not increase your overall healing to ALL targets.
3- You should use Ursol's Vortex BEFORE Typhoon, so you don't mess up the pack density and troll the group.
4- Rejuvenation can be used during movement phases.
5- Getting some comments on Wildstalker being strong as well. Apparently its feeling pretty good, will do an updated video if it ends up becoming meta. But the highest keys in beta were KOTG. So sticking with this format for now.
6- Fluid forms - can be taken and you can utilize it in Single Target scenarios to get bleeds up. Going cat form to apply bleeds will be about a 10-15% increase in dps for single target damage, but will require shifting some talents around to get there.
I may just be an idiot, but I don't see a link to your updated talent build. Just a long string of characters but no website.
@@Baha0117 Nah not at all! So the string of characters, you can copy and paste that into your talent tree in game. There's an "import" dropdown, and you can just copy and paste that string and get the exact talents!
Been watching countless resto Druid videos, this is the first good one! Thanks for the work, back after a few years and did not know where to go. ❤
Welcome back, glad it helped!
This might be the first time I have ever written a TH-cam comment.
You opened my eyes for resto druid. Realizing that not using reju is actually beneficial and heck, even the correct option was eye-opening for this expansion. I thank you for this guide and hope that u make more rdruid guides in the future.
Thank you!
Glad it helped out! Yes I plan to continue to do guides and making a website as well to put them into written form!
Thanks, this guide helped me more than any other I’ve watched, because it keeps it simple
Glad it helped you out!!
Dude, very well done! You covered all the basics very well, I raid very little so most of my gameplay/thought process is pretty much always based around M+. We do have some different playstyles, I use cat form a lot because it's some good prio damage and can save me global when using skull bash (skull bash is off the GCD but shapeshift is not), something for the damage rotation that is bonkers right now is the blooming infusions proc. Tracking your blooming infusions is a MASSIVE increase to your AOE DPS, every 5 regrowth's you can have an instant Starfire. I have an audio cue for mine, when I hear the fart it's time to blast. It is part of your healing rotation, so it doesn't change your playstyle, but you only have a few seconds to spend the proc.
I also use the vortex/typhoon combo the opposite for the most part, I vortex first and when the cast I am waiting for comes up I knock them all and vortex groups them so I don't throw the mobs everywhere. You have to be careful with knocks like these because it is possible to knock mobs behind the tank, even auto attacks in higher keys can poof the tank from behind.
The mana return from master shapeshifter hasn't been enough for me to take it, I also try to get in the habit of drinking between every pull even if its for 5 seconds.
Natures Swiftness is ALWAYS in the tree for me because I use it before every convoke for empowered regrowths, it has also been nice for the instant BREZ in some situations.
Lots of great druid combos exist out there, ie bear form before AOE goes out and as soon as it hits you swiftmend / wildgrowth to send an empowered group heal.
I may press rej more than most RDruids, but I try to never press it while standing still. It is my on the move button for dodging mechanics or moving in between groups. It does help a little getting your mastery rolling but for me it serves as a permanent place holder for swiftmend. As long as I always have 1 hot on each player I always have the ability to burst heal them. Sometimes swiftmend, natures swiftness, into regrowth will top them.
I can sit here and ramble forever about RDruid lol, very well done man. Lots of great info in the video for those wanting to push RDruid. Looking forward to the Shaman guide coming out, great job bro.
Dang there's some big brain stuff in this comment, appreciate it a lot! I'll incorporate a lot of this into my S2 guide. Really like the vortex typhoon idea. I was always messing up packs by typhooning first.
I've been running improved regrowth and it feels very good. Any way to get that and nature's swiftness both? Improved regrowth is so strong it seems like!
I'll look into dropping master shapeshifer and see how it feels from a mana and throughput standpoint!
I'll also make a macro for the swiftmend wild growth combo, I think that could be really helpful to make the combo more obvious.
I'll try and add some of this stuff to the pinned comment and make sure it's in future guides, thanks for taking the time to write this out brotha!
@@RealmGamingWoW dude typhoon is so awesome but you can troll your group so much lol. Since I am in cat form a lot, I try to stay across from the tank instead of behind for obvious cleave reasons, but when it’s my turn to knock if I don’t vortex first I can throw the mob behind the tank and if the tank isn’t expecting or doesn’t react quick enough it’s bad. But the combo you were describing is also super valuable when kiting (prot pallys do this a lot) because you can keep your tank untouchable for several seconds. Situation dictates you know.
So there is some major theory crafting going out on out there lol, honestly it will take some time for the dust to settle to see the best pathing/talents because you are right it’s so nice to be able to spam a LOHs as a Druid lol. It makes regrowth so strong, but I’m not convinced yet it’s a mandatory talent. Could change day 1 of M+ for me lol.
I hate that master shape competes with liveliness because that’s just a great talent. When I do have mana issues I can combat them by drinking very often. I try to use this logic with all healers and avoid mana talents unless I have to have them (like raid where i can’t drink)
M+ is just around the corner and can jumble a lot of things, you know how it is lol. Great guide bro!
Thanks for coming in here and posting helpful stuff like this. I'm always trying to learn more about Rdruid!
@@OcelotTransfusion same! It’s just so much fun to play and incredibly strong. Bear form takes it to a whole new level lol. I didn’t play the beta so I don’t know all the cheese yet, but in HOI after the frog boss you could clear the deep chill dot by shifting and use your dispell on someone else. You can pair that with the swiftmend wildgrowth combo, bear before the AOE goes out and when you swiftmend it will take you out of bear form (clearing the dot) so you can cast wild growth.
I’m very hopeful for RDruid in TWW! It will take me some time to get everything all dialed in.
Best druid guide I've seen, short and 2 the point. Learned alot. Keep up the awesome vids.
Glad you enjoyed!
This is a great video. I had given up on my friend the resto Druid after failing miserably in TWW heroics. I went to my MW and enjoy it but now seeing what I’ve been doing wrong I’m going to give my Druid another try. I’ve been playing it since Burning Crusade and didn’t really understand the changes in this expansion until this video. Thanks.
You got this! Goodluck, let me know if you have further questions, I have a discord for questions and such =)
Learned a lot. Greate vid! :)
Glad it was helpful!
The best resto druid guid i have ever seen 🔥🔥
Appreciate this, thank you for the nice comment!
Just to let fellow healers know..vuhdo is a good healing frame addon but i def recommend Cell..its much cleaner and has everything in the options there to set it up easy..never using another healing addon again
Couldn't agree more have changed to cell myself and have made a guide on it!
Nice guide! I would recommend using soul of the forest procs on wild growth by default unless you absolutely need it for regrowth. There is a ton of healing using it this way.
Thanks for the tip!!
Thanks dude, Now I know how to improve my game !🎉
Glad to hear that!
Very good guide !
Thank you very much!
Worth paying attention to what spell you cast after swiftmend as it will be empowered. Either regrowth or wild growth depensing what you need. Also reju is for preparation, and on the move some extra. Some bosses like Grim Batol 1st will make you move a lot, helps that you can cast it on the move. Also moving from pack to pack, you can mend on it aswell for on the move spothealing. Since master shapeshifter solves our mana issues as you said, you can afford it.
Good guide btw. Found it just a bit too late as I figured out most stuff by now, but good guide nonetheless.
Starting new thread. Just tried. Takes some getting used to. Not including Rejuv in my rotation is a game changer as well as feels different. No deaths. Some close calls though :)
Good Guide :)
But some parts are either confusing or maybe wrong.
- "Control of the Dream" makes your cooldown not shorter in that regard it you just don't waste as much time and you can wait 15 sec when something comes of CD without the need to insta press it to don t waste a use in a run
- Mastery stacks at 5:00 the stacks count per player so 2 lifeblooms out is not realy equal 6 stacks it is 2 times 3 stacks so every person you have lifebllom on with the talent get 3 times (Mastery %) more healing so here 21% sadly they don't stack on us so we do more healing that would be totaly overpowered.
Yes apologies I misspoke on the Mastery section!
On the Control of the Dream, at 2:55 is where I explained the part you're talking about!
Thanks for watching! =)
2 lifeblooms =/= 6 stacks of mastery... they only apply to the target they're on and cant both be on the same target
i like having convoke at 1 min cd if the pvp use trinkit is still one min cd it pairs perfect so u get a big boosted convoke
Hey, do you have a guide for your UI? The hots shown with cd on the party frame is so clean. Can I find the settings somewhere? :)
For everybody asking the same stuff: He has a video about his ui on his channel! th-cam.com/video/3hWmABWTsV0/w-d-xo.html
Glad you found it!
Hi! my omni cd apears as false instead of true enabled, whats the problem? help pls!
I tried this rotation, only thing I did different was using rejuv as a quick way to get out my swiftmends since it’s an instant cast (this is, of course, only when the target don’t have a consumable hot on them already). Is this wrong? Any reason why I shouldn’t do it?
I personally like to pair swift mend with regrowth, since regrowth is such a fast cast time and you'll get a lot more bang for your buck then using the global on rejuv. If you can remain station I would go regrowth into swiftmend if the target needs substantial healing, it should top them.
For the combo you stated I would probably use it on movement phases where you can't remain stationary!
@@RealmGamingWoW very nice input, I’ll keep this in mind. Thanks. Finding great success eith this build in mythic. Really nice guide
I’ve been enjoying wildstalker in heroics. Blasting damage. Healing requirements are low though so.
I was so bummed when wildstalker went live because I love to cat weave, will def use it in lower dungeons
I'm thinking we will see major buffs from wildstalker, I think it will be a rework though which is why we didn't see any buffs in this most recent blue post.
@@RealmGamingWoW Yeah, i'd even take vines and blooms spreading and even allowing stacks on friends/foes.
Anything is good in heroic. You can play with both hands in your underpants and still running the dungeon
Why does wowhead recommend wildstalker? Not updated?
This video was made a bit back but wild stalker is viable as well maybe even better.
But I personally run keeper myself
you keep talking like stacks of mastery are accumulative on multiple people. NO THEYRE NOT. a hot on a friendly target only increases healing done to THEM. not healing YOU do to anyone.
Yes mispoke please see pinned comment on video