I used to subsoil with a Challenger in Oregon. We were going 24" deep with a bigger heavier sub soiler but it was narrower with less shanks. I pulled up some pretty huge boulders. Was amazing how much better the wheat crop was on the fields we subsoiled.
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I know this is a repeat of sorts as I am watching it a second time. One of my favorite videos right here. The power of 12 cylinders pulling those rippers is amazing. Thanks again young man.
It certainly is a beast, good to see his buddy stopped to help him 😂 the John Deere tractor was zooming along the cat was slipping and taking all its power surely better to pull a bit narrower, anyway very impressive stuff!!
Good show farmer Billy! No drama here, just gettin er done and getting on with your day! Seeing those rocks and roots, I am guessing this was the first time for a ripper pass in those areas? Thanks again JIM
Great video on field expediency. American farmers hard at working doing what you have to do to get the job finished. Around the 15:30 mark, if I carelessly tossed sockets and wrenches around like that while working in the field I would lose some tools. I would have to have a small tool pouch right there to collect them I as used them. Thanks for posting and sharing.
Shear bolts... I went through my share on a pto shaft for a brush mower I used to run. It stinks having to stop working to wrench on equipment but having the right tools sure makes life easier! Those Milwaukee impacts are real nice!
Nice video! We don’t see them v rippers in our part of the country up here in Canada. It sure puts a load onto that awesome Challenger! Very nice tractors! Farmers around here call them Challengers “the torque monsters”!
I really like the Challenger for this particular job. Why? Well, for starters, torque. Its pulling that ripper very smooth. Which tells me, this tractor isn't even breaking a sweat. The Challenger is more nimble. Its visibility is awesome and it's a very smooth operating platform to get jobs such as this done and without breaking ones back bouncing around. Its an expensive tractor, but it's worth that expense in the long run. These type tractors remind me of Cat D11R's. Oh sure, they're apples and oranges, but at the end of the day, it's still a Cat, it's still packs plenty of power and it gets even the most toughest jobs done and with greater efficiency overall. My opinion of course. Awesome video of an awesome tractor doing what it was designed to do....🚜 JR
You would think that but the Deere’s have all the want with a 9. The Challenger spins while the Deere in the same spot will stahl out and the engine will just cut off.
bigtractorpower Interesting - so the Challenger spinning with the 11 shank behaves as a relief valve versus the stall and engine kill by the Deere with the 9 shank ... yeah - thanks much for sharing ... your videos and interviews are quite good ... thanks much - Doug in Iowa
This is a different application , but there's a California Almond grower with a TH-cam channel that hires a custom operation to deep rip ,like 4 to5 feet deep before they plant Almond trees ! They pull a single shank on a D11 I think ! It's not for this kind of farming but interesting !! That's one way to locate those rocks but could get a little cashy if that spring reset or shear pin fails to function quick enough or trip high enough ! Since their running both have they developed a preference between the Cat or Deere ?Thanks to you and Billy for the video !
I follow an operation on Instagram with a D11 doing clearing and replanting of almond trees. It is impressive. Billy and his family own the farm. It’s all green but Billy likes his Challenger. Since his first MT865B in 06 he has a had an MT875B, three MT875Cs and this is the second MT875E. Billy has always run the one different tractor since I have known him. Before Challenger their was a JD 9620T, CIH STX450 Quad and a Ford 1156 on triples.
You can tell Billy is a no nonsense guy who’s done this for some time. Very down to business and he like the big Challenger tractor. That tractor has some impressive torque for sure.
Billy is a great person to know. He has farmed his whole life. He runs non stop and is very sharing. He has great stories of farming and how he started on WD45s and has gone to the MT875E.
Hi Mate...🇦🇺 Great video...👍 It's also best to mention, the curved shape on the front of some shanks reduces their draft load, making them easier to pull. But they are more likely to pull up soil from lower depths and mix the soil horizon. That could be a problem in some fields where the layer of topsoil is very shallow. Straight shanks as on the JD V-Ripper have no curve, only a slight upward tilt that helps lift and fracture compaction layers. They are less likely to cause mixing of the soil horizon, but they require alot of brumbies to pull it through the field. The welding on the shank is called hard facing, this is usually done with a stainless steel or Low hydrogen welding rod. The purpose of this welding is to lengthen the life of the original shank..
Thank you for watching. There is more Billy on the way. He and I talked so much it would be a 35 minute video just to share the cab time. Stay tuned for part 2.
We sure do appreciate all the GREAT videos, from Garnett Farms, and others please Thank Mr. Garnett for us. Would you also ask him if the Big John Deere with the triples would pull the ripper better, because of more traction 🤔
He must go through boxes of those shear bolts ? Seems like the tractor has traction issues, not HP issues, especially with 2095lbs of Torque !!! Thanks BTP !!
You have a boat anchor back thief try to plow cement. It will hold the Challenger back but it pulls through. The Deere’s in the field with more horse power will stahl and the engine shots off.
Lots of power years ago we worked along a couple challengers I think they were 315hp plowed 100acres a day for rice farmers that was big power then now these tractors are awesome
Billy likes his Challenger and it’s a beast. When you doing a title it has to be short so 12 John Deere Tractors gets your attention. 12 John Deere tractors and 1 Challenger gets confusing. So Billy gets his own video 😁
Ouch. This farm has a field next to the big quarry in town. They scrap over the same big rocks in that field every year. You can see the battle scars on the big boulders from years of rippers going over them.
I have always wondered over the GPS guidance systems, cant you mark in the gps approximatly where you hit solid rock where you can brake the machines on it, so that you can avoid it next pass with gps systems? That would seem very practical for every tractor/equipment that goes over the fields with different drivers?
danne77sthlm yes there are ways to drop pins on these systems. The driver is still required to lift the implement, but you can mark it so it’s recognizing the hazard. However, I believe if you do not use the same A-B line as before it will not show up.
oh, thanks for answering me, and thanks for the information, now I understand why that would likely to be very hard to include, I guess it would only make sence if you had a very detailed gps map but that would be very expensive :(
@@dgkh2008 I am unsure with greenstar, but with the Trimble GPS along with most other brands (they run very similar to trimble) the obstacles marked in the field stay in the field no matter what A-B line you have selected, the only time they are not there is when you open another field, either a new one or at another location
Great video again, like that aerial view on start. Not many tractor models powered with v12 engine, especially today. I searched info about v12 tractors and find one Big Bud model, Acremasters, Belarus/ Kirovets, IMT 5500 and ACO 600, of course there is some homemade v12 tractors like Honey Bee etc, but pretty rare engine type for tractor.
The 16.8l AGCO/Sisu V12 in these range topper Challengers(both in twin track and in the articulated MT900 series too) are absolute monsters - it's nice to see AGCO throw some fire power at the Challenger brand, picking up where Caterpillar left off after the sale
D8 was probably only about half as much horsepower but would weigh probably half again as much wouldn't pull it near as fast but would probably spin less the old girls sure wouldn't be as comfortable ! Can't get that unmistakable clatter out of those rubber tracks either !!!
Beautiful footage man glad to see more drone shots, you’re getting quite the hang of it my friend! I do wonder why this called plowing over there, you Americans are so deep into no-till you guys actually forgot what plowing is all about. It’s ripping at best, tillage is not plowing. Love the sound of that Challenger BTP for some reason you’re crazy lucky with the wind when recording (or maybe you have some kind of secret recording clear audio like you do). Greetings from The Netherlands.
@@peteparker7396 because unless you have a pivoting 3 point, when you turn doesn't it put a lot of sideways movement on the implement? I'm not trying to start an argument. I'm asking.
that,s exactly what I thought when I saw the tracks slipping- would definitely benefit from some weight transfer plus not as much ballast needed on the tractor
Good eye. The drone footage was filmed in 2017 with a 2017 MT875E. The ground footage and ride along with filmed this year with a 2019 MT875E. They trade every two years.
Thank you for watching. In all seriousness the reason you don’t see the Deere spinning is because when it hits those same spots it will stahl and the engine quits. Then the tractor re starts and lifts and goes again. I will have to do a comparison video showing it.
This is easy. Bulk it up about 10,000lbs and drop that ripper down to the frame...55,000 is light for ripping with that v frame. And chiselplows 80 ft or so require more heft in large operations. Not much use for mine is bigger than yours when it ain't.
Wow, very impressive. Incredible power. What did the farmers do about compaction with the old steam power tractors? What is the constant pinging as the tractor is ripping? Thanks for a very informative video. - Dean from Minnesota
With rocks popping up such as these it is obvious that tillage is into depths never broken soil that depth before. Nutrients available in the soil below
A steel tracked tractor would pull that with no problem, it takes so much more weight with rubber tracked machines to get traction. A 200 hp D7G or 320 hp D8H would pull that tool easy. But of coarse you cant just drive it down the road when your done, lol.
Had to chuckle... My Father in Law had the identical tractor for a spell... And when You showed the operator he looks exactly like the F-I-L... But the Canadian version
Tell Mr Billy how much we appreciate him letting you video his operations throughout the year !
I greatly appreciate getting to follow this farm each year.
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I used to subsoil with a Challenger in Oregon. We were going 24" deep with a bigger heavier sub soiler but it was narrower with less shanks. I pulled up some pretty huge boulders. Was amazing how much better the wheat crop was on the fields we subsoiled.
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Yeah I’m like the others tell Billy how much we appreciate him letting us ride along with him! Thanks for sharing Brother!
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I know this is a repeat of sorts as I am watching it a second time. One of my favorite videos right here. The power of 12 cylinders pulling those rippers is amazing.
Thanks again young man.
It certainly is a beast, good to see his buddy stopped to help him 😂 the John Deere tractor was zooming along the cat was slipping and taking all its power surely better to pull a bit narrower, anyway very impressive stuff!!
Hey Billy. Please know we appreciate you allowing us to get a look inside your operation, it is really really cool, thanks 😊
See Mr. Billy standing and working on the ripper shanks gave a good perspective of the 18 inches deep.
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Great video of real life farming!
Good show farmer Billy! No drama here, just gettin er done and getting on with your day!
Seeing those rocks and roots, I am guessing this was the first time for a ripper pass in those areas?
Thanks again JIM
Thx to the producer for allowing video of activity. It is appreciated.
Wow that is some serious compaction to stop a 600hp tractor dead in its tracts
Making that cat earn its keep.
Thank you Billy for letting us ride along.
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This farmer knows his stuff. We could learn a lot from him. Thx.
I know little about the USA but I'm learning Kentucky is a big agriculture state thanks to you.
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This Tractor is one of my Favorite AGCO Brand Tractors that you video every Yr. Thank you for taking the time to video these tractors.
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Awesome, and another gentleman we get to know. He is one serious farmer.
Billy and his family are great farmers to know.
Great footage !!.. thank you !!... The featured farmer was perfect !!
Great video on field expediency. American farmers hard at working doing what you have to do to get the job finished. Around the 15:30 mark, if I carelessly tossed sockets and wrenches around like that while working in the field I would lose some tools. I would have to have a small tool pouch right there to collect them I as used them. Thanks for posting and sharing.
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It takes a BIG horse to pull that V-ripper... impressive
Good morning Mike great video
amazing how hard that ground gets on the end!
The tillage pass is defiantly needed.
Would it help if you went across the other direction what you already ripped ?
Shear bolts... I went through my share on a pto shaft for a brush mower I used to run. It stinks having to stop working to wrench on equipment but having the right tools sure makes life easier! Those Milwaukee impacts are real nice!
These rippers in rocky areas eat up bolts but they do a good job.
Nice video! We don’t see them v rippers in our part of the country up here in Canada. It sure puts a load onto that awesome Challenger! Very nice tractors! Farmers around here call them Challengers “the torque monsters”!
I really like the Challenger for this particular job. Why? Well, for starters, torque. Its pulling that ripper very smooth. Which tells me, this tractor isn't even breaking a sweat. The Challenger is more nimble. Its visibility is awesome and it's a very smooth operating platform to get jobs such as this done and without breaking ones back bouncing around. Its an expensive tractor, but it's worth that expense in the long run. These type tractors remind me of Cat D11R's. Oh sure, they're apples and oranges, but at the end of the day, it's still a Cat, it's still packs plenty of power and it gets even the most toughest jobs done and with greater efficiency overall. My opinion of course. Awesome video of an awesome tractor doing what it was designed to do....🚜
JR
I operate D11R's and D11T's for a living. You are correct. They are awesome tractors.
Hear that big o kitty get drug down at the end. That's some serious hard pak
It is. The Deere 4wd when they hit those spots will stahl and the engine just shuts off.
Mentioned below as well ... seems the Challenger should pull the 9 shank and Deere the 11 shank ... thanks for video. - Doug in Iowa
You would think that but the Deere’s have all the want with a 9. The Challenger spins while the Deere in the same spot will stahl out and the engine will just cut off.
bigtractorpower Interesting - so the Challenger spinning with the 11 shank behaves as a relief valve versus the stall and engine kill by the Deere with the 9 shank ... yeah - thanks much for sharing ... your videos and interviews are quite good ... thanks much - Doug in Iowa
This is a different application , but there's a California Almond grower with a TH-cam channel that hires a custom operation to deep rip ,like 4 to5 feet deep before they plant Almond trees ! They pull a single shank on a D11 I think ! It's not for this kind of farming but interesting !! That's one way to locate those rocks but could get a little cashy if that spring reset or shear pin fails to function quick enough or trip high enough ! Since their running both have they developed a preference between the Cat or Deere ?Thanks to you and Billy for the video !
I follow an operation on Instagram with a D11 doing clearing and replanting of almond trees. It is impressive. Billy and his family own the farm. It’s all green but Billy likes his Challenger. Since his first MT865B in 06 he has a had an MT875B, three MT875Cs and this is the second MT875E. Billy has always run the one different tractor since I have known him. Before Challenger their was a JD 9620T, CIH STX450 Quad and a Ford 1156 on triples.
You can tell Billy is a no nonsense guy who’s done this for some time. Very down to business and he like the big Challenger tractor. That tractor has some impressive torque for sure.
Billy is a great person to know. He has farmed his whole life. He runs non stop and is very sharing. He has great stories of farming and how he started on WD45s and has gone to the MT875E.
Hi Mate...🇦🇺
Great video...👍
It's also best to mention, the curved shape on the front of some shanks reduces their draft load, making them easier to pull. But they are more likely to pull up soil from lower depths and mix the soil horizon. That could be a problem in some fields where the layer of topsoil is very shallow.
Straight shanks as on the JD V-Ripper have no curve, only a slight upward tilt that helps lift and fracture compaction layers. They are less likely to cause mixing of the soil horizon, but they require alot of brumbies to pull it through the field.
The welding on the shank is called hard facing, this is usually done with a stainless steel or Low hydrogen welding rod. The purpose of this welding is to lengthen the life of the original shank..
Great video...Billy is very cool and it is really awesome that he lets you film and ride along!!!
Your videos just keep getting better and better! Well done!
Thank you Tim. I enjoy your videos
Sir that is one of your best videos. Good coverage of the machine and good explanation 👍👍👍👍. Thank you for sharing 👍👍✌️
Thank you for watching. There is more Billy on the way. He and I talked so much it would be a 35 minute video just to share the cab time. Stay tuned for part 2.
Really cool video 👌 Billy is great and getting to watch them work on the equipment is cool!
Billy is a great farmer to know.
Great footage and thank you for being a farmer.
We sure do appreciate all the GREAT videos, from Garnett Farms, and others please Thank Mr. Garnett for us. Would you also ask him if the Big John Deere with the triples would pull the ripper better, because of more traction 🤔
Great interactions between yourself and Billy.
Great video as always btp.... 👍👍
Thank you for watching.
Great video thank you 👍
Thank you for watching.
Those are nice rippers
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He must go through boxes of those shear bolts ? Seems like the tractor has traction issues, not HP issues, especially with 2095lbs of Torque !!! Thanks BTP !!
You have a boat anchor back thief try to plow cement. It will hold the Challenger back but it pulls through. The Deere’s in the field with more horse power will stahl and the engine shots off.
@@bigtractorpower, I agree, the only thing stopping that Challenger was the tracks slipping.
MillFarmer did a video on how to hook up a JD display on a Challenger tractor. It was when he had the 700 series 2 track challenger.
I watched that episode too. 👍👍
Great work
Lots of power years ago we worked along a couple challengers I think they were 315hp plowed 100acres a day for rice farmers that was big power then now these tractors are awesome
Cant see more than 600 or so horse being necessary because of traction. It runs out of traction before power
I wondered where Billy and his big yellow tractor was yesterday with all them green ones in the field,thanks for sharing and thanks Billy
Billy likes his Challenger and it’s a beast. When you doing a title it has to be short so 12 John Deere Tractors gets your attention. 12 John Deere tractors and 1 Challenger gets confusing. So Billy gets his own video 😁
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Made it grunt. That looks like conditions I've been in here in the UK.
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Good ole Kentucky limestone. Every time the rock quarry sets off a charge in the back 40 they blow rocks like those at the end out in the field.
Ouch. This farm has a field next to the big quarry in town. They scrap over the same big rocks in that field every year. You can see the battle scars on the big boulders from years of rippers going over them.
Neat to see what happens when obstacles arise 👍👍
Thank you for watching.
I have always wondered over the GPS guidance systems, cant you mark in the gps approximatly where you hit solid rock where you can brake the machines on it, so that you can avoid it next pass with gps systems? That would seem very practical for every tractor/equipment that goes over the fields with different drivers?
danne77sthlm yes there are ways to drop pins on these systems. The driver is still required to lift the implement, but you can mark it so it’s recognizing the hazard. However, I believe if you do not use the same A-B line as before it will not show up.
oh, thanks for answering me, and thanks for the information, now I understand why that would likely to be very hard to include, I guess it would only make sence if you had a very detailed gps map but that would be very expensive :(
@@dgkh2008 I am unsure with greenstar, but with the Trimble GPS along with most other brands (they run very similar to trimble) the obstacles marked in the field stay in the field no matter what A-B line you have selected, the only time they are not there is when you open another field, either a new one or at another location
Enjoyed the video Thanks
So is it safe to say that the 875 is putting power power to the ground than the RX 620 being its pulling the 11 shank vs the 620s 9 shank?
Great video again, like that aerial view on start.
Not many tractor models powered with v12 engine, especially today.
I searched info about v12 tractors and find one Big Bud model, Acremasters, Belarus/ Kirovets, IMT 5500 and ACO 600, of course there is some homemade v12 tractors like Honey Bee etc, but pretty rare engine type for tractor.
The 16.8l AGCO/Sisu V12 in these range topper Challengers(both in twin track and in the articulated MT900 series too) are absolute monsters - it's nice to see AGCO throw some fire power at the Challenger brand, picking up where Caterpillar left off after the sale
Reminds me of a Caterpillar D8. Enjoyed watching🚜🎄👍
D8 was probably only about half as much horsepower but would weigh probably half again as much wouldn't pull it near as fast but would probably spin less the old girls sure wouldn't be as comfortable ! Can't get that unmistakable clatter out of those rubber tracks either !!!
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Beautiful footage man glad to see more drone shots, you’re getting quite the hang of it my friend! I do wonder why this called plowing over there, you Americans are so deep into no-till you guys actually forgot what plowing is all about. It’s ripping at best, tillage is not plowing. Love the sound of that Challenger BTP for some reason you’re crazy lucky with the wind when recording (or maybe you have some kind of secret recording clear audio like you do). Greetings from The Netherlands.
That’s why we use three point instead of the dolly, three point you can use your draft control and you won’t stop the tractor or spin. 👍🏼
I thought 3 point implements on a 2 track was a bad idea?
jfdb59 lol why would you think that?
@@peteparker7396 because unless you have a pivoting 3 point, when you turn doesn't it put a lot of sideways movement on the implement? I'm not trying to start an argument. I'm asking.
jfdb59 you are fine! Yeah you don’t turn with a solid shank ripper in the ground... even on a dolly you don’t do that.
that,s exactly what I thought when I saw the tracks slipping- would definitely benefit from some weight transfer plus not as much ballast needed on the tractor
How much do those tracks on both the challenger and the JD cost to replace? And what is the life expectancy of those tracks?
A few years ago a new track was about $2,500. I am not sure what inflation has done to the price. Typically a track will last around 3,000 hours.
Where’s the plow ? I only seen a ripper or subsoiler
I noticed some subtle differences in some shots of the Challenger. Were there two nearly identical tractors videoed here?
Good eye. The drone footage was filmed in 2017 with a 2017 MT875E. The ground footage and ride along with filmed this year with a 2019 MT875E. They trade every two years.
Good morning
Thanks. Enjoyed the video a lot
Thank you for watching.
Very interesting video,
How tough is that draw pin? It's incredible that much force can be transferred through a small piece of steel.
It is indeed. 👍👍
Awesome video, thank you both! Does Matt work at this farm? I heard you mention his name.
Yes Matt works at this farm. Billy and his family own the farm and Matt is a right hand man in the operation.
Your machines are amazing wish we have here in the Philippines!
These Challengers are impressive. Thank you for watching from the Philippines. That is cool.
My Fav tractor ATM guy in my area uses them they are a beast.
Great video B.T.P.🤠👍
Have you seen the hr and torqued curve from a cat 6nz or n14
Wonder how much fuel they use on a yearly basis
Big power, nice video
Thank you for watching all the BTP videos.
In Scotland we call that subsoiling, looks like horse power means little when there is hardly any track grip.
Subsoiling in Devon usually means one Deep leg not that number
Gordon Exmouth UK
Correct. Power does nothing if you can’t put it to the ground
Great video again jason!
Seeing it ok now?
@@bigtractorpower yeah. I restarted my phone seemed to fix it
Do they make those wings on the bottom of the shanks
The wing is a DMI point.
Great video. Interesting to see the Deere not struggling like that yellow thing.....haha
Thank you for watching. In all seriousness the reason you don’t see the Deere spinning is because when it hits those same spots it will stahl and the engine quits. Then the tractor re starts and lifts and goes again. I will have to do a comparison video showing it.
I’ve run a few of these tractors before. I think traction can be a problem if the load gets too great.
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This is easy. Bulk it up about 10,000lbs and drop that ripper down to the frame...55,000 is light for ripping with that v frame. And chiselplows 80 ft or so require more heft in large operations. Not much use for mine is bigger than yours when it ain't.
Green Star Monitors? Is necessary many adaptation to install them in the Challenger?
They have a connection box they use.
Farmergasm.
That was a very good video
Thank you for watching.
Wow, very impressive. Incredible power. What did the farmers do about compaction with the old steam power tractors? What is the constant pinging as the tractor is ripping? Thanks for a very informative video. - Dean from Minnesota
I think back then they got the ground turned but actually created more compaction with a plow pan layer.
they need the 747 big bud with a 20 shank ripper😂 @bigtractorpower
With rocks popping up such as these it is obvious that tillage is into depths never broken soil that depth before. Nutrients available in the soil below
Awesome Video!!
A steel tracked tractor would pull that with no problem, it takes so much more weight with rubber tracked machines to get traction. A 200 hp D7G or 320 hp D8H would pull that tool easy. But of coarse you cant just drive it down the road when your done, lol.
Billy needs a pit crew, lol. He's my kind of farmer where he's out in the dirt even when he's dealing in ten's of millions of $ of deals.
Had to chuckle... My Father in Law had the identical tractor for a spell... And when You showed the operator he looks exactly like the F-I-L... But the Canadian version
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Billy must prefer the Cat, he’s on it a lot.
He likes Challenger. There is a reason it’s the only non John Deere in this large farm. He has run Challenger since 2006.
I'm surprised that it doesn't have a spring trip/reset
does the challenger get traded every year to?
Every two years on the MT875E it just replaced a 17 MT875E this year.
Good LORD that thing is a damn asteroid!! O_o
12 cylinder?? More details please.
These tractors use the agco built Sisu 16.8L v12 engine. 600hp (646hp boost)
Brad Conway. I would love to see photos of this motor.
Those shear bolts are essentially mechanical fuses.
If you have more than one auto steer tractor in one field, do they see each other.
Too much power,I could pull that V Ripper with my Farmall H...
Ok,when ripper is lifted..
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Perhaps, cuz it couldn't lift it on its own.