In Australia it is rarely done because in our shallow soils it mixes infertile subsoil with fertile top soil. Apart from being extremely wasteful on fuel and wear and tear on machinery. Over here, plant roots are much more effective at aerating soil than plowing, they die and leave millions of channels for water and nutrients to enter.
My family has been farming for 5 generations and this is a lie. This is an insane waste of time and resources. So much fuel wasted to simply destroy thousands of years worth of top soil buildup.
If you grow food in Ukraine, middle America or other rarely found extremely fertile places then ofcourse this makes no sense. Midwestern America is extremely fertile because all of the nutrient dense Earth was scraped off of Canada by glaciers during the ice age and dumped onto the midwest. If you have extremely dense clay soil, the water doesn't soak into the ground well, and will take all of your fertilizer into streams whenever it rains. This makes a ton of sense if you're starting a new plot. If youve been "growing for generations" then youre the beneficiary of years of growth activity and root penetration where the soil is looser and more prone to absorb water and fertilizers both natural and artificial. I use a really large raised bed where i live because i dont have heavy equipent to loosen up the 115 year old back yard filled with heavy clay, shale and ceramics/glass people used to toss outside back before trash pickup services were available. If i had King Tiger Tank or something i might plow but i grow food by hand, so i couldnt hope to grow without a raised bed.
Silliness. Add organic matter to improve drainage. Chisel plow if necessary leaving soil layers intact. Use rotary tillage or discing on the top layer to incorporate crop residues. And don't compact the soil by running 5 CATs over it.
The problem, as mentioned in other comments, is that you turn over and bury the most fertile top layers of soil, breaking the hard pan in certain areas is a good thing but plowing that deep is fairly rare. Most of the farmers in my area have completely gotten away from plowing at all and use drills to plant seed and alternate the crops from heavy nitrogen feeders to legumes to put nitrogen back in every few years.
yes but also if its the fist time doing it its to loose the soil for the roots and help more seed the chance to open and go but i totaly agreed they did it too low so they will have to add alot of fertiliser
I live in central Midwest United States we rotate our crops. We plant corn or soybeans every other year. Sometimes we let the fields rest and raise alfalfa. It helps put nitrogen in the ground just like soybeans do.
@@loudchips2072 Plowing exposes nutrients short term. Kills off the organic material that produce those nutrients long term. Its the main reason soil fertility is collapsing
Just look at the cross-section of the soil before the plow turns it over. Fertile, humic-rich soil on top, lighter and less fertile soil below, and deep plowing deliberately takes that fertile layer and buries it where the roots of annual crops can't reach it. Deep plowing is only a benefit to sterile soils with poor structure, where you won't necessarily lose anything by destroying that already-poor structure.
How can you grow anything at all in the turned over soil.? I was watching the fertile top soil being buried like 5 feet down, and now the "hard pan / sand layer" is on the top..
You add a shitload of fertilizer... But yes, there are plenty of studies showing that deep plowing is actually detrimental most of the time, especially in the long run
In some parts of Canada, they deep plow because "the nice black topsoil" is just peat moss and grows nothing. Deep plowing mixes it with the dirt underneath and then crops can be grown.
When perception is stronger than reality. Pretty sure a farmer who has been plying his trade for decades knows a bit more about agriculture than people posting on TH-cam.
@@Mark-em5zm even the randome TH-camr my know something, the reason to plow is to allow a greater diversity of nutrients to become available to the roots. Deep soil of all kinds are full of inorganic nutrients by taking the organic topsoil and putting it under the inorganic soil it gives the roots a greater reason to go deeper using less water and creating more drought resistant plant, the topsoil is still available for use to the plant. It just has to get to it.
I love the comments section in this post, as a farmer I am shocked we are definitely messing the soil structure by plowing - there are other methods of soil regeneration
My Dad, born 1918 and not a farmer thought this helped aerate lower soils and bring untapped minerals to the surface, increasing fertility and building deeper topsoil. Current no till runs counter.
Plowing may increase fertility in the short term but long term it has shown to negatively impact soil health and quality. It destroys soil structure for microfauna, bacteria and aggregation for soil water intake and it releases mass amounts of carbon into our atmosphere. Not sustainable practices!
conventional ploughing helps mix in organic matter , aerate the soil and gets good results but this seems illogical ( would love to hear their side of the story.)
Every few years a hardpan develops below the usual depth of the various seed bed preparation methods. It tends to force water to run off and you do not get the deep moisture that helps crops through week long dryspells and such. It is used to help fields recover from sandy silts left by flooding (If it is a high clay soil it is beneficial to mix the sand in too.) and in the case of deeper rooted crops like grapes and fruits, it is necessary to get the depth to level and re-contour the rows. It also helps the soil get aerated for the nitrogen fixing bacteria something to work with. Sometimes there might be some minerals that are becoming depleted on the surface and the dirt needs rotated to regenerate deep down. Some of that deep plowing seems to be dumping good dark soil that has been developed back down into deeper layers in the video, it makes me wonder what special crop they might be preparing for.
This comment is exactly what I was looking for. All these keyboard warriors saying how dumb it is are not the same people who would invest the the time and resources required to farm much less seek to understand why someone would go through the effort an operation like this would require
After the huge floods in the mid west back in the early’90’s , they made a 10 foot plow, pulled by 2 Caterpillar tracked tractors.. they had to plow under 12-20 inches of sand and new dirt from the Missouri and Mississippi Rivers on all the bottom ground farms.. they did soil test and said that there was 20-30 feet deep of top soil underneath.. we have been farming only the top 2 feet for over a hundred years in many places..and after the Mount St Hellen volcanic eruption.. over a Billion tons of fresh volcanic dust has enriched the entire Northern states, Midwest and top eastern farm lands.
2:53: ploughing the dark soil under and leaving nutritionally-bland yellow sand on top. terrific illustration of THE main failure of ploughing. well played, eejit
Watch Gabe Brown's lectures to learn about NO-TILL, MULTI-SPECIES COVER CROPPING, MOB GRAZING and more. See how today's farmers are improving their soil, increasing organic matter, increasing water infiltration, protecting soil from erosion and top soil loss, increasing profitability, reducing inputs, growing healthier food, protecting the health of the environment., and more.
There are a few exceptions in the US where deep plows are needed. One thing not mentioned in this video is sandy or silty clay soils in desert regions that haven’t been worked before may be necessary. States such as Idaho, Utah, Nevada, and even parts of New Mexico where ground hasn’t been worked in awhile may see this. It really isn’t something you would ever want to do on conventional fields that are worked because you’ll destroy your top soil horizon and essentially have to start all over again with added nutrients and fertilizer to being back you 3 major Macronutrients. If someone is doing this regularly, they have no idea how soil health works and should leave the ag industry alone.
So many didn't watch the video and ignored the "this isn't suitable for all soil types" part, and just angrily ranting about no-till. Farmers KNOW wbat gets them good yields in their area because thats how they make money! A farmer doing this in an area or for a purpose its not good for will go broke fast!
I do agree with you, but if it takes 5 tractors chained together to pull a plow, well, that's just stupid. I think those scenes were just for show, like a carnival act.
Yes this is the only comment that matters. Everyone do what is best for their farm. How the hell can people know how to grow crops on the other side of the globe? It is learnings inherited from generations. What is best for you is not the best for somebody else. I just hate it when a keyboard warrior tells others what to do..
Farmers are living off chicken feed and have been getting poorer since the Green Revolution. For a few years Agribusiness was taking over 100% of all farm revenue. So no, farmers don't necessarily see the end game, they are stuck with tradition which "is just peer pressure from dead people" and a whole heap of 'followers'. Regenerative Agriculture is where the real farmers hang out now. Gabe Brown brags that he only likes to sign the back of a check/cheque.
@@FelonyVideos sorry deep ploughing is real and the number of tractors relates to soil type and depth. Some of these ploughs take a cut a metre plus in depth. This isn't yearly I think it's done on something like a 5 year cycle. And the benefit in crop production will pay for this process.
In Australia were topsoil is very thin, plowing is discouraged. Zero tillage has much better outcome. To me plowing is a bad idea, you disrupt the soil fauna, cause compaction, destroy topsoil and get erosion. Hydrophobic soil can be dealt with biological and or chemical
We mixed the soil of the top 80cm because there was a layer of stuff that blocked water drainage. It killed the crops and the soil life all the same. No worms were found in that piece and it might take years before the biodiversity of that area becomes good again. The road is now taken though and the field now has a chance again.
@@jantschierschky3461 biology no because the basic bacteria and worms get mass murdered by the waterlogging of the soil, what kind of life would you try to add to the soil to improve it? also minerals, what would you add when the disturbing layer is 80 cm deep, to compensate for waterlogging of the soil?
@@AwoudeX i been doing that for 40 years, so trust me it works in right combinations. So if you have waterlogged soil, ask yourself why ? Only clay subsoil ? If not than you can improve drainage in many different ways. Well you done it already, but good biology opens up soil fast.
1:50 This soil USED to be fertile, that's why the farmer started working there in the first place. What we're seeing here is the result of decades of chemical use, which has killed all life in the topsoil, turning it to a barren wasteland. Deep plowing will bring up the deeper fertile layers, and once those have been destroyed, the land has become worthless for agriculture or anyone for that matter. It's funny how organic techniques have proven themselves to work, keeping soil alive and actually improving, while retaining the same profits, but most farmers are like "Nope, I'm sticking with the ones forcing me to destroy my soil and send me into dept for millions every year, because THEY know what they're talking about".
It’s sad. Just look at it. It looks like someone just dumped truck loads of sand out there. It’s just lifeless. There’s nothing there. Chemicals aren’t great for it but that’s mostly the result of plowing and other tillage.
Reading the comments, one realises there's a lot of arm chair farmers. This practice is probably done/recommended at best maybe once every 10-12yrs. It's also done when rain events are less likely so there is no erosion events that can take place. As the top soil of any farm is a farmers best asset, so why destroy, lose it? Why undertake this practice: 1) Bust up the compaction layer left by using large mechanical equipment in wet conditions. Allows plants to penetrate deeper into the ground also helping with erosion rainfall events when crops are established. 2) To mix, bring some clay into a top soil profile which helps retain water and nutrients in the top soil profile. Some top soil profiles are that sandy the soil retains nothing, by adding clay it starts the regenerative process e.g. sandy deserts. 3) It brings leachable nutrients which have leached into a clay pan back to the top soil so they're once again accessible to the plant e.g. Calcium, Potassium, Boron Closing note. Yes in some parts of the world this practice is outdated on certain farms. Just like on some farms need irrigation whilst others don't.
Look at all this beautiful dark soil buried under lifeless sand. One can only expect benefits from this technique when you see soil only as a mechanical plant-holder.
Any plowing brings up seeds buried in the soil. A relatively new farm technique is NO plowing. Using Round up or something similar, then a seeder that drills holes and drops seeds in.
Well i listen to other people and read comments but i think its down to growing the same crop in the same place for decades ,no crop rotation to replace vital nutrients ,no lying fallow to allow structure to repair itself .They are looking for more fertile soil that has not been completely raped of all natural nutrients
Ideally you wouldn't plow at all, keeping the soil layers and microbiology in them intact. However, for some crops like carrots that will split into multiple legs if they suddenly encounter denser soil, you need deeply loosened soil and on large areas I guess plows are the best option.
The guy is correct, it is only beneficial in some areas, especially now with the heavy-weight farm machinery compacting the soil. In the south of Spain every 15 to 20 years when they dig up and replace the almond trees they deep plough, a couple of reasons but mainly because it helps stop soil erosion allowing the heavy rain to percolate down through the soil rather than wash it away. In Scotland I have seen it done because of years of "no-till ploughing" for shallow rooted crops of barley, and no crop rotation, the top soil becomes tired, any fertiliser can seep down further than the 4 to 6 inches that is disturbed. The deep ploughing and a few years of different crops, brings the yield of the barley up by atleast 20%. The other commenters that have been against the video probably come from areas where crop rotation and ploughing to a decent depth is normal. Keep up the good work, I enjoyed seeing all the different ploughs and "tractor-trains" used. Also the way they tied the tractors together, especial using a tractor tyre to use as a tension device.!
@@davyp2993 That's because the fertilizer makes them soluble so some is washed down, and the plants take up some, so the top layer becomes depleted over time. Then you plow into subsoil, and some years later, the layer of depleted soil is even deeper. That is not a sustainable way to grow crops. You have to replenish what's taken away or washed out/down. Volcanic ash and dust will do that.
It's almost like these "experts" didn't even watch the video. Just because you'd never do it on your farm doesn't mean it isn't needed on a different farm in a different freaking country. And nobody SHOULD be dumb enough to think this is an every year thing.
As a vegetable grower I can say that plowing is a waste of time and money I stopped tilling soils 7 years ago and get the same results or slightly better harvests...
Depends on type of soil, climate, type of product, which type of machines etc. Here in the Netherlands are mixed results. Especially on different types of clay
Some people seem unable to understand the term: UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS! Some farmers obviously do not understand that there are some places on this planet with very different soil conditions! Successful young farmers go abroad and learn the different practises to enhance their understanding!
Not here mate My family’s been farming Central Queensland for 140 years. I ain’t heard no one going abroad maybe third world nation farmers but vast majority of people atleast here couldn’t give a shit about climate change we only make 1% of emissions so why punish a man for a crime he didn’t commit
Here in Brazil, before plowing the soil, we do a compaction assessment before plowing. and we also use the no-tillage technique, which generates great savings and profits for producers.
There are better ways to "reverse compaction"! They can plant a type of horse radish that grows nearly a meter in to the ground, after the plant dies the root remains as a hollow core. Air, water, and nutrients are capable of reaching deeper into the soil!
Also it as a farmer you should look at why you got the compaction in the first place and fix that issue. As a farmer you should strive to never get excessive compation
I would like to see crops before deep plowing and after. Yeild records compared. It has to be very expensive to deep plow. Can you emagine preparing a seed bed in that much loose soil.
The only time that I have seen deep plowing was when the fields were flooded and that flood brought a few feet of sand to the property. Crops will not grow on sand, so you plow below the sand layer to bring up the actual soil to the surface. Then you can grow crops again..
This video is confusing a deep plowing practice that is rarely carried out anymore with video clips of deep plowing in certain parts of the Netherlands and Germany. The plowing carried out in this videos is mixing multiple soil types in river bottom group to reduce soil stress. It's pretty well documented why the Dutch have this specific practice.
Everyone should watch "Kiss the Ground" documentary, it explains how and why modern agriculture is destroying this planet. I take my hat off to the farmers world wide, who struggle to break even, feeding the planet, chasing inputs and yields, fighting nature, the greed of industry has pushed the farmer into this decline.
Extensive and well conducted studies back in the days when moldboard plowing was universal showed that optimum plowing depth was about 6 to 8 inches. Hard pan was broken up by subsoiling. These big plows are for road work and terracing. These people are burying their topsoil and aren't going to grow much now.
Not ALL land is farm land. So when comparing the average piece of land to the piece of farmland and the cultivation process it goes through or doesn't it is important to factor in the change of condition from that of what could be considered a commercial farm property to that of a residential home. The need for land cultivation is still there on a residential property but the care provided is varied, yet still similar.
doesn't matter what you say dude, you know nothing about tillage effect the living soil, there's more life inside the living soil than above the soil, go and study about the living soil, you really need knowledge 😡
Man, if you tried that here in the dried up bed of the Champlain Sea in the Ottawa Valley of Eastern Ontario, Canada, you would instantly end up with a new Death Valley. The clay underneath the first 8 inches or so would grow _nothing_ at all.
I could see it maybe in certain cases where you have abundant topsoil. Some of these look like they’re plowing the black dirt under and pulling up the sand and crap that nothing will grow in
If you have a hard compacted pan, where and rainfall races over the surface to the nearest gully, one effective solution is strip tillage. Particularly in so-called 'goat-deserts' where overgrazing has destroyed any cover. Typical strips might be a metre or so apart and 20 to 30 cms deep. Even better to follow contours, then any rainfall can flow into the cultivated strip, maybe even replenish groundwater, and certainly reduce flood risk down-stream.
I can see the value of deep subsoiling to break through a hard pan. I can see the use of occasional regular plowing. But I honestly can’t figure out why someone needs to do deep plowing. I guess it could be used to deepen the top soil layer but that would take several years to build the sub soil on top into true top soil.
Some fields used to produce 1(one ) ton of maize per ha .Now adays many farmers produce as much as 20 to 30 tons per ha because of research and correct modern farming methods. Just keep quiet and day thank you for the farmers feeding the world
Aqui no Brasil 🇧🇷 não reviramos o solo pra plantar, pois em caso de excesso de chuva o solo não seja levado ou em caso de seca a umidade não seja evaporada, utilizamos semeadoras com grande capacidade de corte, para descompactar o solo usamos escarificadores ou descompaquitadores conhecidos com Ripper. Assistam o vídeo com um Ripper em operação: Terros GTS
While the world is moving towards no-tillage, this guy is wrecking havoc in his backyard, burying the fertile soil under 50cm of subsoil. Congratulations, absolutely nothing will grow, but at least you can make a youtube video!
Some soils this can really help. All the "organic" gardeners are chiming in I see. Some soils seem really weird if you've only dug in 1 type of soil your whole life.its often better to get the organic matter deep in a soil instead of on top. What if you have sticky clay over sand. Weird but it does exist.
@@miltkarr5109 which is why we do no till utilizing cover crops, last year I planted corn green meaning the cover crop was 4 to 5 feet tall, rolled it rolled it down and it held moisture and kept the soil temps lower, for my beans I did the same thing and didn’t use any chemicals at all. In doing it this way I’m building my topsoil back up.
@@jlkkauffman7942 what you are doing is great, and may be best practice for your soil. Often with such practice as you mention the organic matter can be built up to 10% in the top 12 inches even. Great! I've done that, And it is good enough for most agricultural needs. However the subsoil is likely to remain at 1% OM or less and roots unable to pass past 2ft. depth Unless you are on alluvial soils. Many studies have been done showing greater total organic matter can be built up over time by deep ploughing. Plug this into scihub and go down the rabbit hole. This is a 45 year study out of Germany. Enjoy. DOI: 10.1111/gcb.13289
The only reason I can think of to deep plow is if you are in Siberia where you need to get down and break up the permafrost so you can get deeper roots.
The plow pulled by five crawlers is burying the topsoil,if you did that on my land the 6-8 inches of topsoil would be replaced by heavy yellow clay forever,I’ve even turned up the clay deeptilling.
The clay is what you want full of rich nutrients, which eventually turns into top soil. People these days are so clueless, do some research, what is clay???
Any spots in the field where topsoil was replaced by the clay due to excessive deep tilling or water erosion produces only 1/4 of what the topsoil covered area does.
@@randyschneider6086 water erosion dissolves nutrients and carries them away that obvious. Over here in Canada where ever we do deep tillage and bring up the clay we have bumber crops. Proven over and over. Also you have to know your clay colors, some clays are bad. You always want to look for that golden clay. ,😋
@@randyschneider6086 theirs different shades of golden clay. Theirs also many different types of clay soils as well. Crumbly, pasty, sticky, heavy ect.. I run a custom farming business and we do alot of plowing in the spring and fall. I've got thousands of acres under my belt all over the country, so I've seen every condition under the sun.
As someone who works and lives on a farm in Germany, I can immediately see that the creator of this video knows very little about agriculture. I do farming based on decades of research and at least here, we always consult with experts. As it turns out, while "ventilated" soil is great for plant growth in the short term, there are a lot of processes in the ground that need anaerobic conditions. That's why at least here, we usually only plow once every few years now and only do very shallow work for the rest. That has worked well for about ten years now and the soil is indeed in much better shape now. Also, notice how the soil that is deep plowed up in this video has a light, yellowish color compared to that brownish black that is plowed under. That means that this sand contains next to no nutrients. Good luck growing anything except maybe a few bushes in that.
Perfectly said. In the Netherlands we sometimes make use of deepploughing, but always on sea clay soils, we try to bring fresh sea clay soil that is lighter to the surface. However we always make sure to atleast mix the old top layer with the new top layer in order to keep the nutrients. Besides that sea clay soils are pretty special, i would never deepplough on sandy soils.
Did you not hear him say that the old vegetation is plowed under to decompose and create new nutrients? I'm sure with that $1,000,000 in equipment, they don't know what they are doing 👌
@@hadrianwall9157 This is a practice that was believed to be very productive pretty much from the eighties onwards. With modern science though, exept for a few edge cases (for example when planting trees), it turns out to do more harm than good.
@@OleJanssen I'm not doubting you, and I'm definitely not a farming expert. Just seems like an awful lot of money on that field for something with iffy results.
@@hadrianwall9157 The farmers are looking at this & asking what are they doing?!!! I agree there must be a reason for it but I think it is a very special case. Maybe not growing the crops that we farmers are used to?
This video offers a great exploration into the reasons behind deep plowing in agriculture. It's intriguing to understand the benefits and considerations of this farming technique. I'm curious about the long-term effects of deep plowing on soil health and fertility. Also, how do different soil types and crop requirements influence the decision to plow deeply? It would be interesting to hear from farmers or agronomists about their experiences and insights on this topic. Deep plowing seems to be a crucial aspect of effective farming strategies!
I live in southern Alabama, surrounded by farmers and farmland in all directions. I've watched them plow season after season, they all use chisel plows. They might plow to a depth of 12 inches at a maximum. I've asked plenty of different farmers "do you have a turn plow" ? , and most of them said "no" and the few that did say they had one told me they never used theirs and just stayed with a chisel plow.
Omg, what are they doing there? My grandfather taught me to never (NEVER!) plow under snow. At 2:44 They are destroying the good topsoil and transporting what looks like sand to the top. Good luck having any decent yields on that field for years to come. What a stupid waste.
Plowing under snow adds nitrogen to the soil. At the worst case it would just be adding water into the soil. Your grandfather didn't know what he was talking about
@@kp63 You are NOT adding nitrogen this way, how would that work? Well, now that I think about it, if you live in South Texas, maybe it is a good idea to plow snow. If you do that in Minnesota, you can probably forget getting any crop that year, cause the soil won't warm up enough. Edit: Also, if there is snow on top, the ground may be frozen, so it will be very hard to plow that properly and might destroy your equipment, so yeah, even in Texas I wouldn't plow snow. Also the point stands: They are plowing too deep and this will destroy this plot of land for a generation.
@@nalley6815 Yeah, depends on your soil. I got very heavy soil, and say it is all mudbrick adobe in dry summers. Without artificial perturbation, it is too thick and dense for anything to grow (I actually tried a cover crop without plowing. The sprouted seeds were unable to penetrate and grow roots). If you got a very loose soil, it works out without plowing. A former teacher of mine got lucky in that regard. Otoh a cousin got very sandy soil and thus water just trickles down into deeper layers and is gone quickly. We need to adapt to our conditions and not believe fads or marketing of big ag. So yeah, I definitely need to plow, but only as deep and as much as the soil & plants need it. Seriously, anything more is wasteful anyways.
Some fields used to produce 1(one ) ton of maize per ha .Now adays many farmers produce as much as 20 to 30 tons per ha because of research and correct modern farming methods. Just keep quiet and say ☺️ thank you for the farmers feeding the ! world
Charles Dahl.... you are right ! Some people do not know or understand new innovations in Agriculture. But, don't no one go showing this to Klaus Schaub... or any Globalist, or Bill Gates.... and Especially, the Environmentalist and those concerned with climate chage!!!😳 😄😂🤣😅😁🙂😊
As you can see , they're plowing well below the top soil.. You differentiate the top soil by color.. Top soil has organics & good bacteria that promotes healthy crops.. Not to mention the insects that survive in the top few inches.. Earthworms, grubs, ect are good for the soil as they allow air & moisture to seep thru the first few inches... Its usually not a good practice to turn your topsoil under . The soil below has less nutrients & tends to be in the clay family.. But, in growing grapes they want a more acidic soil in order to produce grapes suitable for wine.. But , in most cases the topsoil is critical for growing crops especially vegatables..
😕Human history is chock full of examples of us having plenty of time to learn valuable lessons, but still failing to do so. It's now the 21st century, and our educational institutions are in-doc-trinating students in the outdated, failed i d e o l o g i e s of m a r x i s m & postmodernism.
hey, you can achieve exactly the same and even more by planting a low growing cover crop and use a no-till seeder to plant the whatever you wanna harvest. in different words, stop all tilling methods and keep the surface green all year round
@@AwoudeX yes you can by using a crop that has big root systems like some clovers and actually let it grow for several years, nowadays grass and clovers doesnt develop the root system that it needs to actually soften the earth because it gets ploughed down as soon as it doesnt yield as much
@@petery6775 yes, roundup is a big head scratcher but i think if you use a small dose with round up before you seed the main crop so that the grass doesnt take over. or you could use a type of row mower maybe and mow between the rows to keep the grass small while the main crop is growing.
@@timzakrisson1323 it seems you not familiar with current no-till farmers programs. it is not "small doze". that is the problem. half of 'no-till fans' have no ID what is this all about, other part is just round-up sellers... xD
Unfortunately the humic topsoil gets buried! Isn't this a major disadvantage? Unglücklicherweise wird der humose Oberboden vergraben! Ist das nicht ein großer Nachteil?
@@MrLordingit you don't build up nutrients in your top soil, you use them up, that's why plowing deep refreshens the soil for new plants. My fertilizer bill is on old hay fields that need plowing, never on freshly plowed land.
@@fendtclaas8689sorry but the clay is not what I want on top, the majority of what you need is in the organic matter and topsoil, yes the clay has nutrients, all the layers have nutrients but I prefer to have my cover crops go get the nutrients and bring them to the surface and then as they break down they get released to the cash crop. There’s also huge other benefits with using covers.
they are trying to fight subsoil compaction by heavy machinery. heavy machinery fighting symptoms caused by itself, sustainable long term agriculture uses animal or human labor.
Yeah that’s not how that works. Please tell me how were supposed to feed the world with animal and human labor? No one wants to work in the first place. When I can shell corn 50-60 acres an hour why the hell would I sell my combine for a horse? Makes no sense. If the ground gets that compacted, use a subsoiler and call it a day
If anyone believes the process is being done at such expense for no financial benefit. You've only missed knowing what it is that is being sold from the effort.
In Australia it is rarely done because in our shallow soils it mixes infertile subsoil with fertile top soil. Apart from being extremely wasteful on fuel and wear and tear on machinery. Over here, plant roots are much more effective at aerating soil than plowing, they die and leave millions of channels for water and nutrients to enter.
My family has been farming for 5 generations and this is a lie. This is an insane waste of time and resources. So much fuel wasted to simply destroy thousands of years worth of top soil buildup.
Same! We never did this except normal ploughing...
It really depends on how the soil look. The farm where I grew up the top soil was sevral meters deep. Yes meters.
If you grow food in Ukraine, middle America or other rarely found extremely fertile places then ofcourse this makes no sense. Midwestern America is extremely fertile because all of the nutrient dense Earth was scraped off of Canada by glaciers during the ice age and dumped onto the midwest. If you have extremely dense clay soil, the water doesn't soak into the ground well, and will take all of your fertilizer into streams whenever it rains. This makes a ton of sense if you're starting a new plot. If youve been "growing for generations" then youre the beneficiary of years of growth activity and root penetration where the soil is looser and more prone to absorb water and fertilizers both natural and artificial. I use a really large raised bed where i live because i dont have heavy equipent to loosen up the 115 year old back yard filled with heavy clay, shale and ceramics/glass people used to toss outside back before trash pickup services were available. If i had King Tiger Tank or something i might plow but i grow food by hand, so i couldnt hope to grow without a raised bed.
@@SubvertTheState that's sad
Lol searching for diamonds I guess
Silliness. Add organic matter to improve drainage. Chisel plow if necessary leaving soil layers intact. Use rotary tillage or discing on the top layer to incorporate crop residues. And don't compact the soil by running 5 CATs over it.
The cats do not compact the soil.
The cats in this video have a ground pressure rating of 5 psi and the tractors hove as high as 70 psi.
Finally, a commenter that is jot mentailly ill. Thanks topcat!
The problem, as mentioned in other comments, is that you turn over and bury the most fertile top layers of soil, breaking the hard pan in certain areas is a good thing but plowing that deep is fairly rare. Most of the farmers in my area have completely gotten away from plowing at all and use drills to plant seed and alternate the crops from heavy nitrogen feeders to legumes to put nitrogen back in every few years.
yes but also if its the fist time doing it its to loose the soil for the roots and help more seed the chance to open and go but i totaly agreed they did it too low so they will have to add alot of fertiliser
I live in central Midwest United States we rotate our crops. We plant corn or soybeans every other year. Sometimes we let the fields rest and raise alfalfa. It helps put nitrogen in the ground just like soybeans do.
@@unknownuser2737 Your roots, especially the deep roots like alfalfa, are doing the deep plowing for you. Same thing, just more less time efficient.
The fertile black soil from the top put under the yellow soil, simply insane. 🤯
Bro its so the roots seek the nutrients buried deeper, thereby establishing a stronger foothold.
@@loudchips2072 Hmm. But it's the microorganism that activates such minerals so the plants can use them. This basically kills them though.
@@loudchips2072 Plowing exposes nutrients short term. Kills off the organic material that produce those nutrients long term. Its the main reason soil fertility is collapsing
Just look at the cross-section of the soil before the plow turns it over. Fertile, humic-rich soil on top, lighter and less fertile soil below, and deep plowing deliberately takes that fertile layer and buries it where the roots of annual crops can't reach it. Deep plowing is only a benefit to sterile soils with poor structure, where you won't necessarily lose anything by destroying that already-poor structure.
How can you grow anything at all in the turned over soil.? I was watching the fertile top soil being buried like 5 feet down, and now the "hard pan / sand layer" is on the top..
I imagine their soil is just different from what we're used to. It's definitely just crazy looking compared to what I've grown up seeing.
You add a shitload of fertilizer...
But yes, there are plenty of studies showing that deep plowing is actually detrimental most of the time, especially in the long run
In some parts of Canada, they deep plow because "the nice black topsoil" is just peat moss and grows nothing. Deep plowing mixes it with the dirt underneath and then crops can be grown.
When perception is stronger than reality. Pretty sure a farmer who has been plying his trade for decades knows a bit more about agriculture than people posting on TH-cam.
@@Mark-em5zm even the randome TH-camr my know something, the reason to plow is to allow a greater diversity of nutrients to become available to the roots. Deep soil of all kinds are full of inorganic nutrients by taking the organic topsoil and putting it under the inorganic soil it gives the roots a greater reason to go deeper using less water and creating more drought resistant plant, the topsoil is still available for use to the plant. It just has to get to it.
I love the comments section in this post, as a farmer I am shocked we are definitely messing the soil structure by plowing - there are other methods of soil regeneration
My Dad, born 1918 and not a farmer thought this helped aerate lower soils and bring untapped minerals to the surface, increasing fertility and building deeper topsoil.
Current no till runs counter.
Plowing may increase fertility in the short term but long term it has shown to negatively impact soil health and quality. It destroys soil structure for microfauna, bacteria and aggregation for soil water intake and it releases mass amounts of carbon into our atmosphere. Not sustainable practices!
conventional ploughing helps mix in organic matter , aerate the soil and gets good results but this seems illogical ( would love to hear their side of the story.)
Every few years a hardpan develops below the usual depth of the various seed bed preparation methods. It tends to force water to run off and you do not get the deep moisture that helps crops through week long dryspells and such. It is used to help fields recover from sandy silts left by flooding (If it is a high clay soil it is beneficial to mix the sand in too.) and in the case of deeper rooted crops like grapes and fruits, it is necessary to get the depth to level and re-contour the rows. It also helps the soil get aerated for the nitrogen fixing bacteria something to work with. Sometimes there might be some minerals that are becoming depleted on the surface and the dirt needs rotated to regenerate deep down.
Some of that deep plowing seems to be dumping good dark soil that has been developed back down into deeper layers in the video, it makes me wonder what special crop they might be preparing for.
great info thank you ❤
This comment is exactly what I was looking for. All these keyboard warriors saying how dumb it is are not the same people who would invest the the time and resources required to farm much less seek to understand why someone would go through the effort an operation like this would require
That is how you prepare a future desert.
That's not how magic works
Yes, well, Greg Judy's comments come to mind!
Legit.... All I could think about during this video is " that looks like overfarmed soil right there, barren and weak"
Nope i disagree
ikr? These guys prepared millions of dollar worth of equipments just to create a future desert.
I don't know jack about farming but hooking up 5 tractors to cut a huge hole in the ground is bad ass.
After the huge floods in the mid west back in the early’90’s , they made a 10 foot plow, pulled by 2 Caterpillar tracked tractors.. they had to plow under 12-20 inches of sand and new dirt from the Missouri and Mississippi Rivers on all the bottom ground farms.. they did soil test and said that there was 20-30 feet deep of top soil underneath.. we have been farming only the top 2 feet for over a hundred years in many places..and after the Mount St Hellen volcanic eruption.. over a Billion tons of fresh volcanic dust has enriched the entire Northern states, Midwest and top eastern farm lands.
What i understand is that you mix a lot of things together
2:53: ploughing the dark soil under and leaving nutritionally-bland yellow sand on top. terrific illustration of THE main failure of ploughing. well played, eejit
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There are a few exceptions in the US where deep plows are needed. One thing not mentioned in this video is sandy or silty clay soils in desert regions that haven’t been worked before may be necessary. States such as Idaho, Utah, Nevada, and even parts of New Mexico where ground hasn’t been worked in awhile may see this. It really isn’t something you would ever want to do on conventional fields that are worked because you’ll destroy your top soil horizon and essentially have to start all over again with added nutrients and fertilizer to being back you 3 major Macronutrients. If someone is doing this regularly, they have no idea how soil health works and should leave the ag industry alone.
Stop plowing
So many didn't watch the video and ignored the "this isn't suitable for all soil types" part, and just angrily ranting about no-till. Farmers KNOW wbat gets them good yields in their area because thats how they make money! A farmer doing this in an area or for a purpose its not good for will go broke fast!
I do agree with you, but if it takes 5 tractors chained together to pull a plow, well, that's just stupid. I think those scenes were just for show, like a carnival act.
So short sighted
Yes this is the only comment that matters. Everyone do what is best for their farm.
How the hell can people know how to grow crops on the other side of the globe?
It is learnings inherited from generations.
What is best for you is not the best for somebody else.
I just hate it when a keyboard warrior tells others what to do..
Farmers are living off chicken feed and have been getting poorer since the Green Revolution. For a few years Agribusiness was taking over 100% of all farm revenue. So no, farmers don't necessarily see the end game, they are stuck with tradition which "is just peer pressure from dead people" and a whole heap of 'followers'. Regenerative Agriculture is where the real farmers hang out now. Gabe Brown brags that he only likes to sign the back of a check/cheque.
@@FelonyVideos sorry deep ploughing is real and the number of tractors relates to soil type and depth. Some of these ploughs take a cut a metre plus in depth. This isn't yearly I think it's done on something like a 5 year cycle. And the benefit in crop production will pay for this process.
One of the first guys plowing straight up sand to the surface... Smart.
In Australia were topsoil is very thin, plowing is discouraged. Zero tillage has much better outcome. To me plowing is a bad idea, you disrupt the soil fauna, cause compaction, destroy topsoil and get erosion. Hydrophobic soil can be dealt with biological and or chemical
Same here in the US. most everyone is moving to no till. It’s just the smarter thing to do
We mixed the soil of the top 80cm because there was a layer of stuff that blocked water drainage. It killed the crops and the soil life all the same. No worms were found in that piece and it might take years before the biodiversity of that area becomes good again. The road is now taken though and the field now has a chance again.
In that case indeed
add lime
Did you try biology ? Or minerals ?
@@jantschierschky3461 biology no because the basic bacteria and worms get mass murdered by the waterlogging of the soil, what kind of life would you try to add to the soil to improve it?
also minerals, what would you add when the disturbing layer is 80 cm deep, to compensate for waterlogging of the soil?
@@AwoudeX i been doing that for 40 years, so trust me it works in right combinations. So if you have waterlogged soil, ask yourself why ? Only clay subsoil ? If not than you can improve drainage in many different ways. Well you done it already, but good biology opens up soil fast.
1:50 This soil USED to be fertile, that's why the farmer started working there in the first place. What we're seeing here is the result of decades of chemical use, which has killed all life in the topsoil, turning it to a barren wasteland. Deep plowing will bring up the deeper fertile layers, and once those have been destroyed, the land has become worthless for agriculture or anyone for that matter.
It's funny how organic techniques have proven themselves to work, keeping soil alive and actually improving, while retaining the same profits, but most farmers are like "Nope, I'm sticking with the ones forcing me to destroy my soil and send me into dept for millions every year, because THEY know what they're talking about".
Well world ground is becoming that wasteland very fast
It’s sad. Just look at it. It looks like someone just dumped truck loads of sand out there. It’s just lifeless. There’s nothing there. Chemicals aren’t great for it but that’s mostly the result of plowing and other tillage.
Reading the comments, one realises there's a lot of arm chair farmers. This practice is probably done/recommended at best maybe once every 10-12yrs. It's also done when rain events are less likely so there is no erosion events that can take place. As the top soil of any farm is a farmers best asset, so why destroy, lose it?
Why undertake this practice:
1) Bust up the compaction layer left by using large mechanical equipment in wet conditions. Allows plants to penetrate deeper into the ground also helping with erosion rainfall events when crops are established.
2) To mix, bring some clay into a top soil profile which helps retain water and nutrients in the top soil profile. Some top soil profiles are that sandy the soil retains nothing, by adding clay it starts the regenerative process e.g. sandy deserts.
3) It brings leachable nutrients which have leached into a clay pan back to the top soil so they're once again accessible to the plant e.g. Calcium, Potassium, Boron
Closing note.
Yes in some parts of the world this practice is outdated on certain farms. Just like on some farms need irrigation whilst others don't.
It's terrifying to see all the black dirt turned under. I wish we had black. All ours is yellow clay.
You must have a higher matter of sulfur and clay soils I imagine.
@@Hankbhomeless all yellow clay. Terrible to work with and washes easy. We manage though. Not much plowing in our area. Southern Ohio
Look at all this beautiful dark soil buried under lifeless sand. One can only expect benefits from this technique when you see soil only as a mechanical plant-holder.
You know that great smell after you plow ?
That's all the value of your land going up in the air and drifting away $$$$$$$$$$$$$
Any plowing brings up seeds buried in the soil.
A relatively new farm technique is NO plowing. Using Round up or something similar, then a seeder that drills holes and drops seeds in.
@@veramae4098 round up no longer works on most farms, instead, they have superweeds, and round up pays the farmer to shut up and plow then under
@@veramae4098 been using it for decades , no till drill
Well i listen to other people and read comments but i think its down to growing the same crop in the same place for decades ,no crop rotation to replace vital nutrients ,no lying fallow to allow structure to repair itself .They are looking for more fertile soil that has not been completely raped of all natural nutrients
I would say that if you need deep plowing, you have not taken care of your soil but mistreated it so it becomes kind of a dead soil.
Ideally you wouldn't plow at all, keeping the soil layers and microbiology in them intact. However, for some crops like carrots that will split into multiple legs if they suddenly encounter denser soil, you need deeply loosened soil and on large areas I guess plows are the best option.
The guy is correct, it is only beneficial in some areas, especially now with the heavy-weight farm machinery compacting the soil.
In the south of Spain every 15 to 20 years when they dig up and replace the almond trees they deep plough, a couple of reasons but mainly because it helps stop soil erosion allowing the heavy rain to percolate down through the soil rather than wash it away.
In Scotland I have seen it done because of years of "no-till ploughing" for shallow rooted crops of barley, and no crop rotation, the top soil becomes tired, any fertiliser can seep down further than the 4 to 6 inches that is disturbed. The deep ploughing and a few years of different crops, brings the yield of the barley up by atleast 20%.
The other commenters that have been against the video probably come from areas where crop rotation and ploughing to a decent depth is normal.
Keep up the good work, I enjoyed seeing all the different ploughs and "tractor-trains" used.
Also the way they tied the tractors together, especial using a tractor tyre to use as a tension device.!
By "tired", you probably mean depleted of some minerals and nutrients. It would be so easy to add a bit of volcanic ash to replenish it.
@@silvergreylion the minerals and nutrients had just been washed down into the lower layer and needed "stirred" up to the surface again.
@@davyp2993 by washed down, do you mean into the river systems? There's no drainage in dead soil
@@davyp2993 That's because the fertilizer makes them soluble so some is washed down, and the plants take up some, so the top layer becomes depleted over time.
Then you plow into subsoil, and some years later, the layer of depleted soil is even deeper.
That is not a sustainable way to grow crops. You have to replenish what's taken away or washed out/down.
Volcanic ash and dust will do that.
A lot of that looked like they were burying the good under junk.
I'd freak out if I saw someone doing that to my field.
I always thought deep plowing was for areas with PH imbalances and salt intrusion and is very limited in the areas where it is beneficial and used.
In California it was done to bury the high salt content of the top soil.
Real definition of knowing your soil.
It's almost like these "experts" didn't even watch the video. Just because you'd never do it on your farm doesn't mean it isn't needed on a different farm in a different freaking country. And nobody SHOULD be dumb enough to think this is an every year thing.
As a vegetable grower I can say that plowing is a waste of time and money I stopped tilling soils 7 years ago and get the same results or slightly better harvests...
Depends on type of soil, climate, type of product, which type of machines etc. Here in the Netherlands are mixed results. Especially on different types of clay
Some people seem unable to understand the term: UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS!
Some farmers obviously do not understand that there are some places on this planet with very different soil conditions!
Successful young farmers go abroad and learn the different practises to enhance their understanding!
No. Absolutely zero reason too 🤣🤦
Which ones please ?
Not here mate My family’s been farming Central Queensland for 140 years. I ain’t heard no one going abroad maybe third world nation farmers but vast majority of people atleast here couldn’t give a shit about climate change we only make 1% of emissions so why punish a man for a crime he didn’t commit
RIP Mycelium
RIP Soil microbiology
RIP Soil fertility
Lol also...
WHY DO I HAVE SO MANY INSECT PESTS I DONT UNDERSTAND. SOME MYSTERIES WILL NEVER BE SOLVED
@@Shadowfax2121 Have you tried companion planting?
Creation does not exist as separated mono-cultures. Work within creation or continually fight it.
Here in Brazil, before plowing the soil, we do a compaction assessment before plowing.
and we also use the no-tillage technique, which generates great savings and profits for producers.
There are better ways to "reverse compaction"! They can plant a type of horse radish that grows nearly a meter in to the ground, after the plant dies the root remains as a hollow core. Air, water, and nutrients are capable of reaching deeper into the soil!
Also it as a farmer you should look at why you got the compaction in the first place and fix that issue. As a farmer you should strive to never get excessive compation
That s one way to get rid of that pesky organic topsoil and replace it with sterile silt.
I would like to see crops before deep plowing and after. Yeild records compared. It has to be very expensive to deep plow. Can you emagine preparing a seed bed in that much loose soil.
The only time that I have seen deep plowing was when the fields were flooded and that flood brought a few feet of sand to the property. Crops will not grow on sand, so you plow below the sand layer to bring up the actual soil to the surface. Then you can grow crops again..
Not sure why you would want the subsoil on top but I guess they do things different in the east
1:04 clay soil instead of black soil? Where is agriculture in this? This is stupid AF.
I don't know who is gonna run over that with a disk but it ain't gonna be me
I would recommend ripping it does not change the soil profile and structure but it helps in water holding and rooting system.
Afaik this is mostly used to defrost frozen soil faster. It's not a very common pratice nowadays.
And here comes the "ain't never heard of that around these parts, therefore it don't exist" crowd.
This video is confusing a deep plowing practice that is rarely carried out anymore with video clips of deep plowing in certain parts of the Netherlands and Germany. The plowing carried out in this videos is mixing multiple soil types in river bottom group to reduce soil stress. It's pretty well documented why the Dutch have this specific practice.
I was watching quite a different deep plowing video last night. Giggidy
Nice footage, but the explanations were crap.
Весь плодородный слой смешали с глиной зачем так глубоко пахать это неразумно
Когда будут высаживать плодовый сад или виноград то плодородный слой будет у корней.
Everyone should watch "Kiss the Ground" documentary, it explains how and why modern agriculture is destroying this planet. I take my hat off to the farmers world wide, who struggle to break even, feeding the planet, chasing inputs and yields, fighting nature, the greed of industry has pushed the farmer into this decline.
deep plowing is mostly done to have fun with huge tools and several tractors
Extensive and well conducted studies back in the days when moldboard plowing was universal showed that optimum plowing depth was about 6 to 8 inches. Hard pan was broken up by subsoiling. These big plows are for road work and terracing. These people are burying their topsoil and aren't going to grow much now.
Not ALL land is farm land. So when comparing the average piece of land to the piece of farmland and the cultivation process it goes through or doesn't it is important to factor in the change of condition from that of what could be considered a commercial farm property to that of a residential home. The need for land cultivation is still there on a residential property but the care provided is varied, yet still similar.
doesn't matter what you say dude, you know nothing about tillage effect the living soil, there's more life inside the living soil than above the soil, go and study about the living soil, you really need knowledge 😡
Man, if you tried that here in the dried up bed of the Champlain Sea in the Ottawa Valley of Eastern Ontario, Canada, you would instantly end up with a new Death Valley. The clay underneath the first 8 inches or so would grow _nothing_ at all.
I could see it maybe in certain cases where you have abundant topsoil. Some of these look like they’re plowing the black dirt under and pulling up the sand and crap that nothing will grow in
While everybody else is trying to get on board with no till you got these jokers that treat the ground like a piece of paper they can flip.
Plowing too deep results in bringing subsoil to the surface which isn't great soil medium for growing plants.
You are exactly right .
If you have a hard compacted pan, where and rainfall races over the surface to the nearest gully, one effective solution is strip tillage. Particularly in so-called 'goat-deserts' where overgrazing has destroyed any cover. Typical strips might be a metre or so apart and 20 to 30 cms deep. Even better to follow contours, then any rainfall can flow into the cultivated strip, maybe even replenish groundwater, and certainly reduce flood risk down-stream.
Can do that or you can use a subsoiler. That way you’re not turning over the dirt but you’re still breaking up the compaction
Burying the top soil with sand and clay where is the logic in that?
There is none
No till is now the most used method
I can see the value of deep subsoiling to break through a hard pan. I can see the use of occasional regular plowing. But I honestly can’t figure out why someone needs to do deep plowing. I guess it could be used to deepen the top soil layer but that would take several years to build the sub soil on top into true top soil.
Some fields used to produce 1(one ) ton of maize per ha .Now adays many farmers produce as much as 20 to 30 tons per ha because of research and correct modern farming methods. Just keep quiet and day thank you for the farmers feeding the world
Aqui no Brasil 🇧🇷 não reviramos o solo pra plantar, pois em caso de excesso de chuva o solo não seja levado ou em caso de seca a umidade não seja evaporada, utilizamos semeadoras com grande capacidade de corte, para descompactar o solo usamos escarificadores ou descompaquitadores conhecidos com Ripper. Assistam o vídeo com um Ripper em operação: Terros GTS
They dig down the soil and Bring Up Sand?
My thoughts exactly. Like wtf?
While the world is moving towards no-tillage, this guy is wrecking havoc in his backyard, burying the fertile soil under 50cm of subsoil. Congratulations, absolutely nothing will grow, but at least you can make a youtube video!
when the soil has a sealed layer from conventional plowing, you have to do routing or this, more extreme but has its logic.
@@christiannunez6025 What is routing?
@@5th_decile sorry...ripping
Breaking up hard pan
You are clueless
Some soils this can really help. All the "organic" gardeners are chiming in I see. Some soils seem really weird if you've only dug in 1 type of soil your whole life.its often better to get the organic matter deep in a soil instead of on top. What if you have sticky clay over sand. Weird but it does exist.
No you want the organic matter on top.
@@jlkkauffman7942 there's never going to be any organic matter there until the moisture problem is resolved.
@@miltkarr5109 which is why we do no till utilizing cover crops, last year I planted corn green meaning the cover crop was 4 to 5 feet tall, rolled it rolled it down and it held moisture and kept the soil temps lower, for my beans I did the same thing and didn’t use any chemicals at all. In doing it this way I’m building my topsoil back up.
@@jlkkauffman7942 what you are doing is great, and may be best practice for your soil. Often with such practice as you mention the organic matter can be built up to 10% in the top 12 inches even. Great! I've done that, And it is good enough for most agricultural needs. However the subsoil is likely to remain at 1% OM or less and roots unable to pass past 2ft. depth Unless you are on alluvial soils. Many studies have been done showing greater total organic matter can be built up over time by deep ploughing. Plug this into scihub and go down the rabbit hole. This is a 45 year study out of Germany. Enjoy. DOI: 10.1111/gcb.13289
The deeper they plow it, the more artifacts come up. Plow baby plow, Rocks!!!
The only reason I can think of to deep plow is if you are in Siberia where you need to get down and break up the permafrost so you can get deeper roots.
That's what I was thinking it seems like a waste of fuel and time if you aren't breaking up frozen ground
Then use a deep ripper it will break up compaction or a hard pan layer with out burying your top soil.
The plow pulled by five crawlers is burying the topsoil,if you did that on my land the 6-8 inches of topsoil would be replaced by heavy yellow clay forever,I’ve even turned up the clay deeptilling.
The clay is what you want full of rich nutrients, which eventually turns into top soil. People these days are so clueless, do some research, what is clay???
Any spots in the field where topsoil was replaced by the clay due to excessive deep tilling or water erosion produces only 1/4 of what the topsoil covered area does.
@@randyschneider6086 water erosion dissolves nutrients and carries them away that obvious. Over here in Canada where ever we do deep tillage and bring up the clay we have bumber crops. Proven over and over. Also you have to know your clay colors, some clays are bad. You always want to look for that golden clay. ,😋
@@fendtclaas8689 it’s obvious I don’t have golden clay😄
@@randyschneider6086 theirs different shades of golden clay. Theirs also many different types of clay soils as well. Crumbly, pasty, sticky, heavy ect..
I run a custom farming business and we do alot of plowing in the spring and fall. I've got thousands of acres under my belt all over the country, so I've seen every condition under the sun.
As someone who works and lives on a farm in Germany, I can immediately see that the creator of this video knows very little about agriculture.
I do farming based on decades of research and at least here, we always consult with experts. As it turns out, while "ventilated" soil is great for plant growth in the short term, there are a lot of processes in the ground that need anaerobic conditions. That's why at least here, we usually only plow once every few years now and only do very shallow work for the rest. That has worked well for about ten years now and the soil is indeed in much better shape now.
Also, notice how the soil that is deep plowed up in this video has a light, yellowish color compared to that brownish black that is plowed under. That means that this sand contains next to no nutrients. Good luck growing anything except maybe a few bushes in that.
Perfectly said. In the Netherlands we sometimes make use of deepploughing, but always on sea clay soils, we try to bring fresh sea clay soil that is lighter to the surface. However we always make sure to atleast mix the old top layer with the new top layer in order to keep the nutrients. Besides that sea clay soils are pretty special, i would never deepplough on sandy soils.
Did you not hear him say that the old vegetation is plowed under to decompose and create new nutrients?
I'm sure with that $1,000,000 in equipment, they don't know what they are doing 👌
@@hadrianwall9157 This is a practice that was believed to be very productive pretty much from the eighties onwards. With modern science though, exept for a few edge cases (for example when planting trees), it turns out to do more harm than good.
@@OleJanssen I'm not doubting you, and I'm definitely not a farming expert.
Just seems like an awful lot of money on that field for something with iffy results.
@@hadrianwall9157 The farmers are looking at this & asking what are they doing?!!! I agree there must be a reason for it but I think it is a very special case. Maybe not growing the crops that we farmers are used to?
This video offers a great exploration into the reasons behind deep plowing in agriculture. It's intriguing to understand the benefits and considerations of this farming technique. I'm curious about the long-term effects of deep plowing on soil health and fertility. Also, how do different soil types and crop requirements influence the decision to plow deeply? It would be interesting to hear from farmers or agronomists about their experiences and insights on this topic. Deep plowing seems to be a crucial aspect of effective farming strategies!
Why? Because they don’t know about efficiency. This is an absurd waste of energy, money and time.
I have plowed deep my whole life...........I'm not a farmer.......
Niceeeeeeeeeeeeee
I live in southern Alabama, surrounded by farmers and farmland in all directions. I've watched them plow season after season, they all use chisel plows. They might plow to a depth of 12 inches at a maximum. I've asked plenty of different farmers "do you have a turn plow" ? , and most of them said "no" and the few that did say they had one told me they never used theirs and just stayed with a chisel plow.
chisel plows are a lot faster imo
Omg, what are they doing there? My grandfather taught me to never (NEVER!) plow under snow.
At 2:44 They are destroying the good topsoil and transporting what looks like sand to the top. Good luck having any decent yields on that field for years to come. What a stupid waste.
Plowing under snow adds nitrogen to the soil. At the worst case it would just be adding water into the soil. Your grandfather didn't know what he was talking about
@@kp63 You are NOT adding nitrogen this way, how would that work?
Well, now that I think about it, if you live in South Texas, maybe it is a good idea to plow snow.
If you do that in Minnesota, you can probably forget getting any crop that year, cause the soil won't warm up enough.
Edit: Also, if there is snow on top, the ground may be frozen, so it will be very hard to plow that properly and might destroy your equipment, so yeah, even in Texas I wouldn't plow snow.
Also the point stands: They are plowing too deep and this will destroy this plot of land for a generation.
Forget plowing snow. How about don’t plow at all
@@nalley6815 Yeah, depends on your soil. I got very heavy soil, and say it is all mudbrick adobe in dry summers. Without artificial perturbation, it is too thick and dense for anything to grow (I actually tried a cover crop without plowing. The sprouted seeds were unable to penetrate and grow roots).
If you got a very loose soil, it works out without plowing. A former teacher of mine got lucky in that regard. Otoh a cousin got very sandy soil and thus water just trickles down into deeper layers and is gone quickly.
We need to adapt to our conditions and not believe fads or marketing of big ag. So yeah, I definitely need to plow, but only as deep and as much as the soil & plants need it. Seriously, anything more is wasteful anyways.
@@donaldduck830 have you tried a chisel plow?
On a scale of 0 to fucked up: DAMN that’s fucked up
5 tractors to pull 1 plough does make me chuckle 😂 New subscriber. Brilliant video 💪🏻 🏴
Some fields used to produce 1(one ) ton of maize per ha .Now adays many farmers produce as much as 20 to 30 tons per ha because of research and correct modern farming methods. Just keep quiet and say ☺️ thank you for the farmers feeding the ! world
Charles Dahl.... you are right ! Some people do not know or understand new innovations in Agriculture.
But, don't no one go showing this to Klaus Schaub... or any Globalist, or Bill Gates.... and Especially, the Environmentalist and those concerned with climate chage!!!😳
😄😂🤣😅😁🙂😊
Don’t tell me to keep quiet. WTF
How absolutely
@@jimbob4456 I think he means just chill and let them do their job bubba. So just chill
Oh...this kind of deep plowing 😳
As you can see , they're plowing well below the top soil..
You differentiate the top soil by color..
Top soil has organics & good bacteria that promotes healthy crops..
Not to mention the insects that survive in the top few inches..
Earthworms, grubs, ect are good for the soil as they allow air & moisture to seep thru the first few inches...
Its usually not a good practice to turn your topsoil under . The soil below has less nutrients & tends to be in the clay family..
But, in growing grapes they want a more acidic soil in order to produce grapes suitable for wine..
But , in most cases the topsoil is critical for growing crops especially vegatables..
Thanks. I was wonder why they were ripping through the black dirt (topsoil) and mixing it with the clay/sand base underneath.
I would love to do some metal detecting after ploughing that deep. 😊
This is beyond bad for the land. You can build swales to achieve many of these benefits, and the others will be achieved by leaving the soil alone.
And so it turns out that over time this has been recognised as a really bad way to treat and eventually degrade good soil
😕Human history is chock full of examples of us having plenty of time to learn valuable lessons, but still failing to do so. It's now the 21st century, and our educational institutions are in-doc-trinating students in the outdated, failed i d e o l o g i e s of m a r x i s m & postmodernism.
I know in California they will deep rip (using a D-11 dozer) to bust up the hard pan that's 6 ft deep.
Yes but turning the sub soil over your top soil makes no sense
I find it interesting on the different types of soils we see here.
HOW STUPID CAN WE PROVE OUR HUMAN RACE ?
DEEP PLOUGHING HUMANS: HOLD MY BEER
People will never get it
This isn't necessary in Canada because the frost breaks up the compaction layer every year. We keep cows on a field and punch frost deep.
I was hoping to see what part of the world this was done, I live in NE US to my knowledge this is not done in US or Canada.
In new york state where we farm we just chisel plow & disc,We also do a lot of no till planting for corn.
hey, you can achieve exactly the same and even more by planting a low growing cover crop and use a no-till seeder to plant the whatever you wanna harvest. in different words, stop all tilling methods and keep the surface green all year round
not if you have a layer that would act as a barrier for water.
@@AwoudeX yes you can by using a crop that has big root systems like some clovers and actually let it grow for several years, nowadays grass and clovers doesnt develop the root system that it needs to actually soften the earth because it gets ploughed down as soon as it doesnt yield as much
yep... you forgot to mention small thing - tons of roundup
@@petery6775 yes, roundup is a big head scratcher but i think if you use a small dose with round up before you seed the main crop so that the grass doesnt take over. or you could use a type of row mower maybe and mow between the rows to keep the grass small while the main crop is growing.
@@timzakrisson1323 it seems you not familiar with current no-till farmers programs. it is not "small doze".
that is the problem. half of 'no-till fans' have no ID what is this all about, other part is just round-up sellers... xD
I was born in the MS Delta and have never seen this. Pretty wild. My little cousin works on a farm. I will have to ask him about this.
People deep plough because they have no understanding of soil.
Unfortunately the humic topsoil gets buried! Isn't this a major disadvantage?
Unglücklicherweise wird der humose Oberboden vergraben! Ist das nicht ein großer Nachteil?
No the clay is what you want full of nutrition. Do some research on clay. When I plow my fields I try and go as deep as possible to bring up the clay.
@@fendtclaas8689 That's not true. All you're doing is burying the nutrients that have built up in the topsoil. Your fertilizer bill must be huge.
@@MrLordingit you don't build up nutrients in your top soil, you use them up, that's why plowing deep refreshens the soil for new plants.
My fertilizer bill is on old hay fields that need plowing, never on freshly plowed land.
@@fendtclaas8689sorry but the clay is not what I want on top, the majority of what you need is in the organic matter and topsoil, yes the clay has nutrients, all the layers have nutrients but I prefer to have my cover crops go get the nutrients and bring them to the surface and then as they break down they get released to the cash crop. There’s also huge other benefits with using covers.
they are trying to fight subsoil compaction by heavy machinery. heavy machinery fighting symptoms caused by itself, sustainable long term agriculture uses animal or human labor.
* Tell me you haven’t worked a day in your life without telling me you haven’t worked a day in your life *
Yeah that’s not how that works. Please tell me how were supposed to feed the world with animal and human labor? No one wants to work in the first place. When I can shell corn 50-60 acres an hour why the hell would I sell my combine for a horse? Makes no sense. If the ground gets that compacted, use a subsoiler and call it a day
under a certain depth the soil is barren
*Зачем такая пахота? Зачем нарушать верхний плодородный слой?*
If anyone believes the process is being done at such expense for no financial benefit. You've only missed knowing what it is that is being sold from the effort.
Good thing diesel is so cheap