**UPDATE** on the Bowtech SR 350 with MFJJ!!
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- Alrighty Guys! big news and reviews on the Bowtech SR 350-
They sent me new Mods and a New bow to test out. Come a long and find out what we got and my review of the Bowtech SR 350!
thanks for coming back and checking us out!
stay tuned for new videos coming at ya!
Much appreciate the unbiased and honest reviews!.. thank you MFJJ!.. and yes, I've made purchases on Podium Archer... keep up the great work! You are a huge asset to the archery community.
I agree 100%
No one was asking if you've made purchases on Podium Archer.
Thank you for your honest reviews! The manufacturers need to start being as honest, for the prices of the flagship bows, we deserve honest numbers! And I know, I bought a flagship bow last year, and after all the add-ons, paid much more for it than any rifle/scope combo I have ever bought! We all need to hold the manufacturers accountable. Just be honest!
As I age I appreciate a smooth draw cycle and solid back wall more and more. Speed is nice, just not at the expense of the overall shooting experience.
Problem with Bowtechs is you can get other Bows that are faster with a great shooting experience which makes it hard to choose a Bowtech over 1 or 2 other brands
Not sure that’s true. He just said it was fastest bow he tested.
The point is not that it’s a speed bow or smooth draw bow. It’s if they are being honest in what they advertised. Same goes with the IBO rating on your smooth draw bow.
thank you for the review! - Though most of us don't need 350fps for your avg. hunt, I'm sure all of us still want companies to deliver what they promise, especially when you spend $1,299 (+ tax) on their products.
I like the way you present the information to the viewer. It doesn’t really matter if the chronograph is off or not as long as every bow is being tested through the same one, it shows the variance between models and deviation from published speeds. Independent testing would hold the manufacturers accountable.
From what I’ve read the IBO speeds testing allows for some variance in draw length, draw weight, and arrow weight. All the mfg use the most beneficial end of those variances and I bet the mfg use the fastest chrono they have as well. If the ibo would tighten the variances, it would help the consumer. Thank you for the reviews. Your testing and descriptions are spot on.
IBO at one point was tested on a 31” draw and the lightest arrow that they could fire at the heaviest weight draw. Or atleast that’s what I have been told in the past but the kicker is the mission series by Mathew’s was tested on a 29” draw to show slower speeds than their flag ship bows. Idk if anything in that is true just what I have heard before
IBO Standard: Draw weight: 80 pounds +/-2 lbs, Arrow weight: 5 grains per pound of draw weight, Draw Length: NONE !!!!!
The ATA on the other hand does specify: 70# draw weight +/-.2 Arrow weight of 5 grains per pound and 30" draw + 1/4" but now below 30"
What we all think of as IBO is really ATA. The bow in the video can probably do 350+ fps with an inch or so more draw length and more poundage.
@@cjr4497 at 31.5 or 32" it should hit 350 for sure,
Great review. Manufacturers need to pony up on their specs plain and simple. To me its a marketing ploy to get us to buy their product. So, keep on doing what you're doing. I enjoy your honesty and fairness.
I'm glad you have the balls to call the manufacturers out on this issue!! If I lived on the left coast you would get all of my business!! Great content!
U are a truly honest bow shop owner.. the fact of u do test and spend time doing it for us out here... so we get a true one on one view of the bows true build is great. Ty I'll be up this spring for a full bow set up...
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I appreciate Him saying “ I’m not choosing one brand over any other…They all lie about the speed ..All Of Them Lie.” I think this is the only Bow he tested that was sent “just for him to test…. “ He picks a random bow out of the lot he is sent to keep it as fair as possible.
Truly respect your unbiased and honest reviews mate.
It makes your channel one of the go to places for accurate information.
Thank you.
LOVE that you DO NOT tip toe around "feelings"! Straight shooter..only way to be man keep it up!
Maybe show us that the timing off all the bows you test is spot on. You just kind of turn every limb screw randomly. 3/4 top versus full turn bottom etc.
Best reviews in the business Josh! You're the reason I bought the V3X 33.
Thanks for your work!
Podium archery is the most real guy out there. He sales all these bows and gives a strait up pound for pound comparison of all bows as accurately as and fairly as he can. I agree all manufacturers stretch the numbers and we all know it. I feel like a more strict standard would be greatly beneficial to the consumer. I wouldn’t even mind if they just said how they got the numbers, for example if it weighs 4.6 bare bow just say that instead of having a bow weighing in at 5.3 on a review. If they get 347 FPS with a bare string on 72lb just say that’s how it got there. Honesty is always popular and glad MFJJ has the balls to put it all out there. Thanks man
I have a 60# sr350 in black , and set at 55# for now . I’m experiencing some left shoulder weakness , and I’m trying build up my arm strength . This bow is a joy to shoot on comfort setting and was easy to sight in . I plan on keeping this bow along time along with my Diamond Deploy SB . All of the bow brands are fast . Pick one up and send some arrows
APA is the only bow I’ve ever seen that hits the speed rating it says it will
There is so much hype in IBO speeds it's ridiculous! In almost 40 years of being in the archery game target/hunting I have yet to see a bow that will actually make the speeds listed! The closest one I seen was the old Hoyt deviator from the late 90s! Funny thing is at 70 lb 30-in draw and a 350 grain arrow it hit 328 ft per second in 1998! Today archery companies brag about getting that kind of speed from newest technology yet we really haven't progressed much more in speed stability yes, shoot ability yes, but so much in speed!
I agree that the manufacturers need to be held accountable.
Thanks for the update ! I own two Bowtech bows , and I love them both ! I like the SR 350 , but was a little disappointed that it would not hit 350 ...a product should perform as billed !! Perhaps they should name it the SR 340 , no shame there , it is still fast ! Of course , if it isn't accurate , 400fps doesn't mean a thing ! I am looking to purchase a new bow and the SR 340 ...is still a great option for me . All my Bowtech bows deliver satisfying performance. Thanks again for your diligence.
You can tell by your reviews that you are advertising for your shop and self brand. Most of youtube is really just advertising for products. Editing in lifestyle influencer garbage not actual reviews. So thank you and keep it up its appreciated!
Bow tech is going to say your crono is out of wack next. Thanks for the content bud.
I feel they do it ,to help sales. I truly feel they should be held accountable for false avertisement, hey scent lock got sued over it!! Thanks for the good information!!
You are doing a great job! I have a PSE DRV Next 70 lbs. I can't even crank it to 70... I tend to believe to what I can see, not what they can tell me! Keep up the good work and keep this videos coming. Thank you!
I want hundred percent agree with you man I'm sick and tired of that bull crap.
Very good. Very fair. I own a Bowtech Invasion. I've had it for a lot of years. It's a great bow. And of course, I'm well aware that every manufacturer mis states the speed of their bows. But some do it more than others. We all know this. I expect it. But what the bow companies need to realize is that when their product shoots 20 or more fps slower than they say it does, they are only hurting themselves. The archery community is not that large. We all talk. We watch videos and read reviews. When this news gets out, hunters don't buy bows and very quickly a manufacturer can be in trouble. That's exactly what happened to Obsession when they consistently lied about their performance for several years in a row. It just about put them out of business. And I agree, the industry should have an independent testing organization that could hold manufacturers to account.
Love love love this. While in the grand scheme of things we as a society need to be more focused on lies of more consequential impact (eg everything reported on in mainstream media), and being really happy that the archery and bow hunting industries over index in their relative concentration of made in USA products (thank you sooo much), we nevertheless should just speak truthfully about bow performance. Why not just say what the equipment does? It’s still all amazing stuff which shouldn’t suffer from marketing claims which damage credibility.
I'm new to the world of archery (only just bought my first compound bow a week ago). I watch alot of product reviews from varying hobbies and products and I gotta say, you are the most honest reviewer I've ever seen. Kudos to you to try and keep the industry you are in honest and accountable. Love the content.
Mate your reviews are my go to when I'm whittling down my options. No BS just a straight up analysis of the things that matter. Keep them coming mate, cheers
I appreciate an unbiased and honest review using real life conditions as you do (minus the whisker biscuit - shud be limb driven drop away for testing). I also appreciate the fact that BowTech is the only company that at least tried to make it right! Or at least the only one you’ve mentioned to send another bow! That speaks volumes!
I believe they use the wb because it's just quicker and easier to put on. He also mentioned in a previous video that the wb on average only reduces speed by 1.5 f/s
How did they try and do it right? They lied by 25 feet? MFJJ had to give the Bowtech 2 extra pounds of draw weight and a drop away rest who ALL OTHER BOWS he tested never got! The scale and slow chronograph is a silly excuse as all the bows he tested used the same scale and chronograph and those bows were not 22 + feet slow!
@@toddlymburner5783
You again. smfh
"How did they try and do it right? They lied by 25 feet?"---
They "LIED" by 6 fps...
th-cam.com/video/SokMukg4uMI/w-d-xo.html
Good Grief
It's refreshing to see unbiased testing! I do like how you emphasized they all do it.
Thanks for your unbiased reviews
Thank you for the new review. Definitely some good information to have I am pretty sure I was going to give U a buzz to see If one of these were available to purchase & how long it would take to get one in my hand I know the I know when I shot this bow and the SS34 @ the shop they we’re definitely right up there in my mind as bows I would like to be possibly shooting come hunting season!!! Again thanks for all the information you share with us and your honesty and not having a bias towards one brand or another. It really does help weed out certain bows when looking. Like you have said it it no longer a 3 bow show now it is all about fit and feel in the end. Please do a random PSE review next thanks
I do agree with you that there should be an independent testing for speed on bows to keep them all honest. I understand that all companies post IBO speeds at 3xx FPS with numbers that are not accurate and I don’t agree with what. So with what you are doing is what the industry needs to keep them all accountable for what they are marketing their products at. MFJJ I do thank you for what you are doing and showing us all.
Honesty... Facts... Can’t thank you enough..
Your honesty means the world to me. Thanks!!
Thanks for being our independent quality control. 👍
I appreciate the fact bowtech is willing to try and fix thr problem. You won't see hoyt or mathews doing that.
Actually if you have an issue with a Mathews they will go out of their way to resolve it.
Keep doing what you do, really appreciate your unbiased approach and no BS reviews. Just a quick note...I recently drew back a new V3 with the weight scale and no arrow nocked...my scale blew up and my bow dry fired, luckly wasn't even half way through my draw, so string derailed but no damage detected by my bow shop. Just thought I'd pass along, those scales aren't indestructible. Any one else ever have that happen?
Thanks for the heads up. Just ordered a cheaper scale(25$) on amazon, planning on using it maybe 2-3 times so didnt really care about quality n even the cheap 0.01g ones are accurate enough so no need to spend 100+ in my case. Probably wouldnt have drawn it back without an arrow, but u never know. Now ill make sure to always put an arrow in there!
Yeah had one blow up on me before. Felt way too cheap for me to trust it so I always nock an arrow and point out my garage door towards the grass. Luckily my precautions paid off.
Thanks for your honest reviews JJ. After watching many of your previous tests, I’ve decided to try a few bows and ended up with a Solution SS. Keep up the great work!
Well said. Great channel. A lot of useful information. Your man cave room 😍👏🔥
Love your videos, no hype, no bias, just plain and simple facts with some good tips and a lot of knowledge sprinkled Ind, keep doing what you are doing its very appreciated even here in nowhere Denmark 🇩🇰
Great to see that your channel has become as mature that manufacturers take your reviews seriously and reach out to you. The best acknowledgement for your hard work next to all the subscribers and followers. To have trustworthy sources of validated information is so valuable for archers (all customers). Manufacturers should make better use and collaborate more with pro shops, who actually know their customers and who offer them (specially the ones on TH-cam) a direct marketing channel all over the world. Specially as we all know that specs on brochures, no matter which product, are always too positive. They can make the difference. Greetings from the Netherlands 🇳🇱 and forgive me supporting my local pro shop as shipping costs from the States are sky high.
FMJJ is only guy to watch do these reviews. He gives you all you need to know about the bows and other products. Draw cycle, specs, vibration, speeds etc…. If you want a honest review he’s the man
Love the content and the way that you are unbiased and completely fair with everything you test. Please keep up the good work
You need to get hold of the apa dangerous game and the Expedition Smoke.
Not once have I seen you have to wind the poundage up on a bow from a manufacturer! It’s obvious their inflating their numbers. Good work calling them out MFJJ. 👍🏼
You do a great job Josh. Your idea of a third independent party who tests all brands is a phenomenal idea. We as consumers are paying higher prices every year. That being said we need to hold all these brands to a higher standard and refuse to be lied to.
Yes except people keep paying the prices every year so nothing is going to change
I appreciate the fairness of this video ...keep doing what your doing man it's perfectly done
Great review! Even if you have the same model bow/ weight/ draw length and shoot the same arrows! They are not all created equal! Sad but true
I just watched another review of this bow from another shop in the midwest. 30"/70lb 350gr arrow, in performance setting. He got 334fps. So it's pretty much in line with exactly what you came up with. Keep doing what you're doing. It's great content!! Thanks
Love your unbiased videos and your honest assessment of the new bow market.
So glad your doing these tests to show that all bow brands don't meet what they say as far as speed goes!!!
Thank you for doing this and your honest approach. This is refreshing. I would like to see you test Darton's Spectra E and/or their Maverick II. Also, (because you asked for content ideas) to see the proper approach for a long time bowhunter who uses an index finger caliper style release aide transition to a thumb style release aide (non-hinge style). What things to do, proper technique etc. and any special considerations to be mindful about when transitioning to one for hunting. Thanks and keep up the great work.
MFJJ. You sir are the MVP. Honest review thanks.
You can't make everyone happy brother just keep doing what your doing 💯
The best real reviews out there, thanks mate keep it rolling! :) Cheers from Spain*
Thanks for sharing….I appreciate your honesty 👍🏻
Awesome honest reviews! If possibly would love to see a review of the APA king cobra dangerous game!
Thanks for putting in the extra work. For as much as the bow hunting community has grown in my life it sure would be nice if there was an independent association to approve manufacturers specs. Like weight, speed, and draw weight. Just because bows are so expensive, you should have a true knowledge of what your paying for. That being said speed is one of the last things I’m concerned with in a modern bow.
I agree whole heartedly. An independent 3rd party testing lab similar to ANSI or ASTM. It works for safety in the workplace and setting standards that OSHA enforces so why not for holding bow companies accountable. By the way, I work as a safety director.
Thanks for always being unbiased! I appreciate and enjoy your reviews bro. Super helpful! I like the way you approach things. Helps me with my gear decisions for sure.
Always fair I like it. Thanks.
If you need a bow to shoot 350 FPS to harvest anything you might want to just pick up a browning. Haha great review always love these videos. Would like to see some distance shooting to see how the bow holds/points at say i don’t know 40-50 yards? Other than that. I love it.
MFJJ thank you for the reviews you do they are greatly appreciated! Don't justify your tests....anyone that has a clue gets it.
Great honest review ! I appreciate that a lot. It’s about time they get called out on these ridiculous speeds that they’re false advertising.
I couldn’t agree more…the industry watchdog needs to put these manufacturers in check. If it says 350 it should shoot at least in the neighborhood if 350 and 340 isn’t in the neighborhood. I shoot a Bowtech and I love my bow, but as MFJJ said, it’s all of the manufacturers that are inflating the speeds and they’re doing it to sell their equipment…sad really.
Love your work mate cheers for your opinion
I Used to work in the industry for a well known manufacturer and one thing that's overlooked is speeds are determined differently. Shooting machine, no D-loop and very possibly a bare shaft. That said you do a great job of reviewing bows and keep it up.
That imo isn't very practical, bows ought to be tested in the same way they are intended for use.
Keep up the great work man.
It would be nice if there were comsequences for inflating/fudging number but that is a dream, just the fact that there are ALLOWABLE VARIANCES written into the ibo standards say everything that needs to be said...........The closest we probably ever came to accountability was when bowtech was a little company trying to move up and the bows came with a birth certificate for what speed each bow would shoot from the factory, but that didn't last long.......
You are absolutely right they all say they shoot faster than they do, just some companies are worse about it than others but they all do it.lol...keep up the great work..
great advise to all keekpunching
I appreciate the unbiased opinion I agree that they all inflate the speed probably by their marketing departments to sell bows
Bottom line is the original test was still very quick so no shame there
Keep the videos coming we all love them
Take care
Jim R
Great video! Keep holding them accountable!!! I need to get my bow out to you for some strings
You most definitely know what your doing buddy and I appreciate the work.
Great video! Good on Bowtech putting effort to make it right.
Good job Josh,keep up the great work 👍
Great unbiased video. Archery companies have been doing this for years. Stacked testing tolerances to one side can affect the results. Also, I heard that speed tests were done with bareshafts and not fletched arrows. Lastly, depending on how high or low or how close or far can affect chrony numbers. Do a video with one bow and compare speeds shooting at different heights on the chrony as well as same weight arrows that are bareshafts. That could answer a lot of questions.
Great video appreciate your honesty. Air temperature, humidity and the height above sea level, could change the performance of the bow. Might be worth testing as an additional test, to the standard your doing now. Keep up the good work.
Stay on them brother, don't cut them any slack!
Thank you for your videos I really appreciate them. Ten feet off is not bad. My solutions is the fastest bow around. Killing machine
Keep up the good work 💪
That bow is awesome smooth as butter on comfort and more speed on performance one of the top bows of 2022. Plus it has Deadlock best cam on the market!
Yep expect it's slow when they clearly said it was 350 bow
@@dieselpusher2548
They were off IBO by 6fps...
th-cam.com/video/SokMukg4uMI/w-d-xo.html
Hope it helps,
John
I was told many years ago when I worked in bow shops the vol.s were shot with blank shafts at max draw weight! Not with fletched shafts!
I can dig it. I nominate MFJJ for bow verifier lol.
100% agree with you
I think you qualified pretty well that industry wide marketing fudges all advertised speeds. So if those guys that are upset over that, calling it an SR 340 would not make any faster or change what I feel I’m seeing. Back in the ‘90’s speed was king and a lot of stuff was sacrificed all in the name of speed. IE limbs, strings, cables, arrows. Point being, if you’re mad about 10fps then look back in the past at what we had to get through in order to get where we are today. At the end of the day hitting the mark repeatedly is everyone’s goal.
Thanks Josh for your fair assessment.
Great vid brother one of the farest channels bout there ..keep up the good work.
Im glad you did it again. I have no clue why these companys continue to lie in the specs, its crazy, you guys all test these, they all lie. I love my SR6 and bowtechs comfort mods draw cycle and ease of draw. Speed is what it is, i like the draw but man, why lie when its always proven you lie.
I love your reviews.
Maybe Bowtech's marketing department thought SR-350 sounded way more cool than SR-340. As you pointed out, all manufacturers are running about 10 fps slower than advertised--but I don't think it was a good idea to include the speed in the name of the bow.
Except this SR-350 is not hitting 340 either. Mathews and PSE both hit within 8 FPS of their IBO with 70 pounds. MFJJ gave the Bowtech 2 extra pounds that none of the other bow companies got in the reviews with the same scale and chronograph. He also gave the Bowtech a drop away rest at Bowtechs request to give them an extra foot or 2 in speed. 75% of people who shoot Bowtech shoot them in comfort for that smooth draw and in comfort this bow was almost 30 FPS under IBO. This was very sad to see a bow company make this disappointing product, then Lie saying they fixed it only to have it shoot similar speeds as it did before. It got worst with MFJJ giving them different rests, extra poundage, a BS excuse about scale variance instead of calling it like it is and being honest to the viewers.
@@toddlymburner5783
"Except this SR-350 is not hitting 340 either." --
Correct, it's hitting 344 fps ...
th-cam.com/video/SokMukg4uMI/w-d-xo.html
"75% of people who shoot Bowtech shoot them in comfort for that smooth draw and in comfort this bow was almost 30 FPS under IBO." --
Irrelevant how many people shoot in comfort. IBO for Bowtech is based on 'Performance'.
Can you please 'Cite/link' the "75% of people" claim...?
Your claims are empty and sound like you have a grudge against Bowtech; fyi -- it oozes off the page.
Thanks for showing 👍
Great work
Great video, I like your fair testing of every brand
Good, honest review, I’m my opinion
Love the follow up.👍🏼
Damn !! You`re good and No mistake > Thanks Fella !!
There should be a team that is sent out to all companies seeking an IBO speed rating. I think the people on those teams should be rotated out every year or two to keep them from becoming biased. All tools should be calibrated properly as well. It is very misleading and false advertisement. Thank you for your truly unbiased reviews.
Keep the reviews coming , good job
Pipe dreams for short draw archers.
My .02 is I could care less about ibo speed. For me it’s a give and take there are speed bows that are fast but suck to shoot and really comfortable bows that shoot slow. I find what best fits me and spend the time tuning and shooting.
This is a speed bow according to bowtech