God is with you. It may be a good time to ask a therapist to help you conquer despair. God wants you to be well. Despair does not come from Him. You can be freed from despair by learning enough of the Truth to be set free. I am praying for you ❤
Invite it in. God is with you. Know that it is nothing. It only has power over you if you give it power. Call on Jesus, He’s right there with you walking your life with you. He has you. You two are doing your life together. You are not alone. The despair is first created by your internal messaging and then the feelings, in response lend power to it. None of that is real. It’s all nothing. You and God can do this together.
Lord, I know that my trials in life are a grace. They may not seem to be at the moment I endure them but they are. Help me especially with (state your current intention). I surrender this situation to You and thank You for Your perfect love and strength. Jesus, I trust in You❤❤❤
I'm a survivor of sexual abuse by a priest, and I'd really love to see a discussion on the spiritual trauma that happens with that. I've worked through a lot of it, but in the immediate aftermath it can feel like God's complicit in the abuse (or worse) because this person you were seeking God through, and often been deeply vulnerable with (I was assaulted in the confessional) has hurt you so deeply. It's really awful to experience PTSD triggers at mass or when you try to go to confession. I do wish Matt would have a guest on about this particular subject. The Sisters of the Little Way (new religious order out of Portland) would probably be good to talk to-- two of their three founding members have suffered that kind of abuse (one of whom is Sr. Theresa Althiea, the "momento mori" nun) and they've dedicated their lives to working with people who have been scandalized by the Church. Another one would be Sara Larson, founder of Awake (lay organization that does awareness and survivor outreach work), or Fr. Thomas Berg (Former Legionare of Christ who's done a ton of work with people who have been abused in the Church). There's people who are faithful Catholics and would give good, competent interviews about this stuff, and I think it'd make a really interesting episode.
That would be a very serious service to the Church - and her wounded ones. I don't know if this will help you at all, but as a catechist of adults, one thing I tell them they can do when they are plagued by thoughts that open wounds or that cause them anger, envy, resentment, bitterness, fear, anxiety - any kind of thoughts or emotions that they have which, at the same time, make it impossible for them to trust in God, or obey God, or pray. It can be sinful thoughts or angry thoughts, or fearful thoughts - as long as the thoughts are harming you and not making you feel God's peace and safety and joy, you can do this. Address the thought and name it, then rebuke it and cast it out in the name of Jesus. For example, 'Spirit of lust, in the name of Jesus Christ I rebuke you and command you to leave me.' Then a Hail Mary and then 'St Joseph, terror of demons, pray for me.' It's not possible actively to focus one particular thought and actively think another thought. As soon as you find yourself going to that trauma, those thoughts, memories, wounds that unsettle your relationship with God - speak to it, name it: 'Spirit of fear/shame/anxiety/dread, in the name of Jesus Christ, I rebuke you,' etc. Or 'Spirit of woundedness, in the name of Jesus Christ, I rebuke you; leave me and do not return.' I have never found this NOT to work, whether I was having temptations, or going over and over wounds from past harm, or on a hamster-wheel of angry thoughts... Name it, rebuke it in the name of Jesus Christ, tell that 'spirit' to GET OUT. Pray a Hail Mary. Invoke St Joseph. By the time I've done that, the thought has lost its power and disappears very quickly after that. God absolutely wants to set you free from the memories of your abuse. That doesn't mean your memory is wiped out; it means that the memories no longer have any power over you. You have to actively recall them, and when you do, they are somehow 'dry facts' and have lost their emotional content that can cause any kind of physical or emotional or spiritual suffering in you. Every time you go to Mass, lay it all on the altar (put it in the chalice of Christ's sufferings) and any time the memories try to steal your peace - rebuke them, cast them out; call on Mary and Joseph. God wants to set you free from the trauma; he doesn't want the 'spirit of trauma' to 'own you' though your memory or triggers; he wants his Holy Spirit to suffuse you with peace and healing. I have prayed for you. God bless you.
Prayers for you, Gianna. He is so much greater and He knows and accounts for all of your sufferings and has a great place for you, near His Heart where your suffering unites to His and you are so special to Him. ❤️
The question about past therapists that were Christian rather than Catholic… I feel your pain! Two of my therapists told me that my “Catholic guilt” was keeping me from healing. This was frustrating because they began debating with me theologically and I simply had to say, “Listen, I get that we have different views on faith, but it’s not my Catholicism that is making me feel shame; it’s my life experiences. I believe that Jesus is my savior and his love is for me and I am worthy of it. I just try to take responsibility where I need to.” It is upsetting when they blame my religion rather than circumstances that have happened to me.
He's doing really well. He used to say something like this almost every video, "I love that and I hate myself for it." As if he could never enjoy anything. It bothered me immensely. I hope he never stops Pints because they get better and better. Great convos.
I am fortunate enough to do IFS work with Dr. Crete’s organization and it’s been life-changing. I’m a traditional Catholic, and I would say it’s the *only* model of psychology I’ve found that truly honors a Catholic life lived with Our Lord. I truly believe there is a purgative element to doing this work and that, in doing so, we are making ourselves a more fitting tool to be used by God to bring about His glory. This is one, very good, way to keep the Mystical Body of Christ in top shape lol. 😁
Great feedback. I'm really interested in this model. As a Psychologist (and Catholic) myself, I'm curious (if you don't mind me asking) what it is about this model that particularly honours the living out of a Catholic life (as you put it)?
I'm further in the video and now feel a lot better about EMDR. But also for the people with ADHD. Be careful taking depression meds. I had MDD and PTSD cause of some horrible junk I've been through. I no longer have MDD but I do still struggle with PTSD (on occasion. It's a lot better.) But what I've found is every time I've been on depression meds, I became suicidal. And I learned it was because I didn't have a chemical imbalance of serotonin. I was constantly overstimulated and didn't know how to practice introspection or connect my feelings with my body. So taking those meds just made that worse. Therapy is super important. It's really helped me. And learning more about my disabilities so I can plan for what I need and learn to advocate for myself was really helpful. Advocating was scary at first because I was so used to emotional and physical abuse and abandonment. Being honest and asking for what I needed was very scary. I was perpetually stuck in fawn or flee for a good part of my life. I still struggle with it on occasion. But what I've learned is that advocating for yourself is worth fighting to learn how to do.
As a Psychologist and practicing Catholic, have really enjoyed this video so far. Looking forward to listening to the rest. Thank you both for this very interesting podcast.
I love his point about doing part work during prayer! When I’m working with my parts, whether in therapy or not, Jesus always shows up when I need Him most. I don’t know exactly how to explain it, but sometimes I’ll be working with an exile that’s very wounded and then all of the sudden, I gain a deep awareness of the Lord’s presence with that part and He heals it. Sometimes Mary will come too, with her motherly touch, especially with some of my very young parts. I always welcome the Holy Spirit into the space before I start parts work.
I really love dr Crete explanation of this amazing work. I am therapist myself and since discovering IFS model trauma work with my clients have transformed.
I recently found my way back to Christ again. I found your podcast and the suggested videos that TH-cam gave were on point. In such a way, it can't be a coincedence. Thank you for doing what you do.
I agree with Dr. Crete. The world is a more worrisome place, and that's why we have more anxiety. Overwhelm and also major breakdowns in the structures that make us feel safe. Families.
So glad you're having this man on. *(edit) His guest appearances on Dr. Peter Malinoski's podcast are excellent imo, and getting him more exposure is so good for the Church.
This was a fantastic conversation but I take some issue with the part around narcissistic personality disorder. Of course their actions stem from woundedness. But the incredible damage they can inflict on other human beings with their behaviors and their often unwillingness to even entertain the idea they might have parts that need healing should have been mentioned. We can have a disposition of compassion for these individuals internally, but for many of us in relationship with someone who truly has this disorder, the priority must be to keep oneself safe from their predatory behaviors. Compassion and empathy can often work against the healthy person, as a truly narcissistic individual will use that compassion as a manipulative tool.
Dr Crete's favourite endorsement: "This beautiful book needs to be in the hands of every Christian on a journey of healing and those involved in trauma recovery work! Dr. Crete has written a book that has finally brought needed clarity to the Internal Family Systems model for Christians. As a wounded healer myself, I found that the Litanies of the Heart finally gave parts of me the language to call out to my Beloved Father in gentleness and trust. Shannon Mullen, Ph.D., CSAT-S"
Thanks for having Dr Crete on again. I have greatly benefitted from IFS parts therapy with a Catholic therapist, now on my own. Cant wait to read the book, it’s on preorder 😊
I have a lovely Christian counsellor who specializes in IFS and honestly, it’s really helping! I have so much more freedom and the capability to make way better choices throughout my day to day! It’s been huge for getting over the hurdle that trauma can be in trying to develop virtue
So glad you had this program. My book is similar. As a Christian therapist who specializes in the treatment of sexual abuse this is exactly the kind of work I started out facilitating in therapy. In the 80’s We are to love our parts into healing. The carnal nature parts are wounded and need to be healed. Sexual abuse is often at the root of porn. People don’t recognize that they have been sexually abused. First exposure to porn is sexual abuse. You can’t heal what you deny or rebuke or shame.
Leisure vs Dissociation segment very helpful- so beautifully, perfectly articulated: 'in the zone' vs 'under a spell'. I can use that for discerning and describing addictive unhealthy activities versus truly good times. God bless
@FigaroHey Matt gets a pass, but it is funny how this happened.😂 l like to call it HAD, rather than ADD. Hyper Attention Disorder. There is no deficit to my attention, it's everywhere! 😊
Love Dr Gerry and Dr Peter. Dr Gerry’s work isn’t activating, while Dr Peter’s IFS work is some heavy lifting. Cannot express my delight at these two doctors work.
We are made in the image and likeness of a triune God - a Trinity of relationships. It should be no surprise - if the family is an incarnated image of the Trinity - that we have an 'internal family.'
I absolutely love these discussions/interviews/videos. I hope one day I will be able to share my story of how I came to Christ. I love people's testimonials. Thank you Matt and team for making a difference in my life for making these videos. 🙏🏻🥰
I've become a door mat for those who are closest to me. That would include my 5 brothers, 1 sister, my husband, and my son! I seem to absurb everyones pain. Even to the point of when they are deliberately hurting me. Its not that I am a total pushover. Some part of me thinks that I can handle all of it! It's exhausting! Maybe this interview will have some advice for me!
I’m experiencing stress, anxiety, and all around unpleasant feelings I’ve never experienced before. I’ve never been an “anxious” person but the past week has been demoralizing. I can’t pinpoint any particular stressor. I just know in the past 2 years I got married (less than 3 months ago), bought a house, graduated college, got a full time job. I love my wife so much but I feel bad talking to her as the man in the relationship. Any advice or prayers would be much appreciated. Thank you!
I had the absolute best ever therapist. I walked away from years of therapy with her wholeheartedly knowing that everyone needs someone like her in their life. Even if only for a short time. She was the healthiest thing to ever happen to me. She used CBT and EMDR.
I’ve seen some conservative commentators (including conservative Catholic ones) criticize therapy, specifically I remember watching Candace Owens (a non Catholic conservative) and Matt Walsh (a conservative Catholic) make different videos criticizing therapy, I don’t know what to think about this, conservatives are generally in line with Christian/Catholic thinking, but I’ve also seen many respectable Catholics endorse therapy, anyone have any thoughts?
I am a therapist since 1989 and integrate the power of the Holy Spirit scriptures and use the parts model called gestalt therapy as well as cognitive therapy. I went to Our Lady of Holy Cross college for undergraduate and Tulane University advanced graduate school which was 4 th in the nation in the 80’s. There are not many good therapist “out there” most don’t have discerning and the new age techniques have crept in to therapy long ago. I don’t agree with the rapid eye movement therapy that’s a form of hypnosis and I don’t use that with my clients. Carl Young and enneagrams are created by people in the occult. People in training have little discerning like I said. Most training therapist receive is secular. I don’t refer clients out because not one of the methods they have learned to help people who have been severely traumatized. However, if one prays and seeks guidance from the Lord where to go for help I believe He will do that.❤
They highlight all these sick individuals in the field that are clearly there with an agenda and ignoring actual scientific data that is in the field. I studied child and family development and am getting very annoyed with conservatives that are misconstruing what good parenting is because some people on the left are falsely using right terms with the wrong way of doing things. My advice to you. Don’t just listen to anyone because they have the same values as yours. No one can always be right, so be critical. The field of psychology isn’t a scam. But there are indeed nefarious people out there that are making a mockery of the field
So if your trying to be charitable with a neighbor but they start asking too much and one of your parts is telling you to pull back, when you tell the neighbor you're overwhelmed but they continue to make demands it's time for a major boundry? Like stopping help all together. Note this neighbor was lying,come to find out, about not having any other help.
To the person who is not able to cry so sorry that can feel distressing and as a therapist I can say it could be a stage headed towards clinical depression. I hope you can get some counseling in order to heal ❤
Thank you for sharing your guidance and insight Dr. Crete. My question surrounds the constant attempts at TI therapists to highly suggest EMDR prior to any other mode of therapy.
Yeah there’s definitely a difference between forgetting a request and outride rejecting a request, the fuzzy area is when someone says “I’ll do it right after this” vs “I’ll do it later”, and then forgetting 1:48:00
Bringing psychology into harmony with Christianity is a key project. I think there is a space for this, but psychology should not overwhelm theology. It has been used this way in modernity.
St Ignatius of Loyola was pretty amazing at understanding the human psyche. His spiritual exercises are amazing for getting to know yourself and clearing yourself out, so to speak (one friend called it, 'hoovering the soul'). Completely Catholic SPIRITUAL EXERCISES that can be life-changing in dealing with your past wounds.
Romans 12:4 CPDV "[4] For just as, within one body, we have many parts, though all the parts do not have the same role, [5] so also we, being many, are one body in Christ, and each one is a part, the one of the other." 1 Corinthians 12:25-26 CPDV "[25] so that there might be no schism in the body, but instead the parts themselves might take care of one another. [26] And so, if one part suffers anything, all the parts suffer with it. Or, if one part finds glory, all the parts rejoice with it."
A very interesting insight, thank you. I would have liked this discussion delved further into 'self love' and a distinction made between modern and ancient psychology. People are being subjected (including in the workplace) with much pop psychology, in many ways including 'mindfulness'. This is the opposite to the Judeo/Christian way. I hope you have another discussion on this, as this is the major cause to narcissism.
Does anyone have any good advice or book/vid recommendations for dealing with trauma tying back to having really hurt ppl in your past? Working through the guilt, forgiving self ect. ?
Fr Chris Alar has a book on suffering from trauma that helped me immensely. He also has several videos that are helpful. Initially, the depression/trauma that hit him after losing his grandmother transformed his life. I highly encourage the book also. Another video(s) is Fr Mike Schmitz, he has such a gift of delivering the word in a way that he brings peace to as well world of chaos. I am currently reading Bible in a Year and it is fantastic. After I started reading the bible with Fr Mike and his amazing explanations it is almost like I can't stop reading it. I hope this helps. ❤
The only thing that comes to mind is retreats for former abortion workers. Maybe see if you can get in contact with someone who works with them and ask for recommendations?
I think that the state of rest is dynamic. There is action involved. The action involved is of release or emptying of what is possessed in abundance. It is an inevitable need to share the good that you have received by another being. God rested after the completion of His creation. So what did God do on the day of His rest? He blessed that day and made it holy. So what does it mean to bless? To bless is to share or give a benefit or in other words to love. God loved his creation on the seventh day. If we find ourselves on our rest day engaging on things that isolate us from the rest of those who we love than we forfeit the privilege to share God's blessings. I think in order to reach the seventh day of true rest we must receive Peace first. And who brought peace? Jesus Christ. Once peace is received through His mercy we get the Blessing which is the Holy Spirit which in essence is a gift that keeps on giving.
Very interesting and edifying interview. Matt jumps in a lot--first--to give his input, more like friends do in a sesh that a typical interview. Just an observation.
Please pray that the whole TSA patting down of survivors can be STOPPED. There is no rhyme or reason for innocent Americans to be treated as criminals, much less a survivor, where traveling in itself is so trying.
1:24:19 does anybody know of any good catholic books that talk more about epistemology and other philosophies/ heresies and perhaps how they’re contradicted/ explained from a catholic perspective? Thanks
1:22:00 And this is where treatment centers and their doctors and therapist are getting it all wrong. Pick up your feet and begin again, rather than get to the source, the root! Self help circles spin the same ideology. I always counsel: these places are a learning tool only, to know what you’re dealing with, but NOT, as expected by the naive, a solution to the problem. Keeping in mind, as JBP says, most of these individuals do not want help, they learn the system and then play the system to continue their criminal behaviors. Pray.
Tough love akin to cheering loudly discussion on Jordan Peterson,.. I went Wow! So good! Parenting 1O1 for young men. Sorry I missed this good attitude as a mum.
Some great advice however I completely disagree with the s s r i view. All the school s h o o r e r s we’re on them and MANY suicides we’re on them, too. Doctors say to stay on them until they work and during that time have been suicides and homicides. Methyl b vitamins are antidepressants without the negative and dangerous side effects. The medical community does not make $ with fixing vitamin deficiencies.
Hey Matt, I'm hoping you can find a (forthright) answer to this question. Why is it that abuse survivors are barred from serving in religious life? I have heard a number of vague answers, such as, counseling may be expensive if the person needs it, it may be difficult for them to adjust to the demands of religious life, ect. All of these answers seem to be lacking in a solid argument. I believe that the truth is not afriad to be questioned, and can stand up to scrutiny. So, what is the reasoning behind this?
@joanna883 The SSPX doesn't have legitimate authority according to the RCC. They're kinda a small, fringe community. Your question seemed like it was talking about the Roman Catholic Church's official stance or something. Maybe I'm misunderstanding...
It’s also my understanding that abuse survivors are not barred from religious life. However, there is (or should be) a threshold for mental health when it comes to religious life. I think it would be troubling if the Church allowed a person who has major mental health issues, such as bipolar, PTSD, or major depression, to take a religious (or marital vow.) And because so few of the general population, laity and clergy alike, don’t really understand these disorders, it may be that many religious orders have to set firmer boundaries than they would like. For instance, if someone had attempted suicide and wanted to become part of a religious order, and I was the authority over that religious order, I wouldn’t know how to handle that. I might know enough to know that my congregation doesn’t have the tools necessary to deal with that. I can and should work to educate myself, but we live in a world with finite time and resources, so it may not be possible. That’s not to say that everyone has to be perfect, but we have to respect that each order knows itself better than any one individual. So they do technically have the right and responsibility to guard their order, even if the reason they can’t accept a person is the particular congregation’s own lack of resources. It’s just not possible to be all things to all people, right?
Love this show, but this is just junk psychotherapy. The research is all supporting CBT for trauma - particularly exposure therapy. Then, and the Church will eventually need to offer some proper guidance on this, psychedelics in combo with therapy has been extremely effective for the worst and most intractable case of ptsd. 75% actual cure rates. This guy's approach to ptsd is ancient history. The field has moved on man.
the evidence (as well as my clinical experience having used both) actually shows that experiential therapies are more effective in treating trauma than CBT. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5126802/#:~:text=Exposure%2Dbased%20interventions%20are%20the,PTSD%20%5B41%2C42%5D.
Science is about discovery. There is almost nothing that is supported by “all research.” We still don’t know why you have an appendix, man. Science is good. It’s just that being “evidence-based” is not about finding one formula for all people… and then NEVER trying new approaches (or old ones.)
We hope that it will be, because we love Jesus, he died for all to have heaven, and we desire the glory of Jesus Christ - which comes when people go to heaven to glorify him forever in heaven. Jesus DESERVES for everyone to go to heaven, especially the worst sinners, because they will have the most to praise him for. Does that mean everyone will automatically go to heaven? Not necessarily, because we can all choose 'not-God', and God respects our choice. Jesus didn't give us the power to know who is in hell (though we can have moral certitude that someone is in heaven). But he certainly warned us enough how easy it is to fall into hell that we should not take it for granted that everyone will go to heaven. That's the sin of presumption. Will heaven be full or empty? We DON'T KNOW. We earnestly hope that it WILL be empty, because it will be JUSTICE for JESUS, who died on the cross to save ALL, and who does NOT DESERVE for a single soul NOT to praise him forever in heaven. Jesus deserves a 100% attendance rate in heaven, because he deserves ALL the glory. ALL of it. From EVERYONE. So if we pretend to love Jesus, we must earnestly pray for sinners - especially the ones who have hurt us - not because they should be 'rewarded' for doing wrong, but because JESUS deserves their praise and gratitude forever and ever. For the love of JESUS and HIS glory - pray for sinners, pray for sinners, pray for sinners, with tears, pray for sinners.
@@brianoneel514for what it’s worth: the Creed says “He descended into hell,” when it should actually say “He descended into sheol.” Sheol is not the hell of souls that are damned. It’s a straight up mistranslation. The Word of God is inerrant, but sometimes humans still mistranslate things and those words need to be corrected. So Jesus never said “people will go to hell.” He talked about wailing and gnashing of teeth in an effort to warn people to turn from wickedness, but that’s not the same as “y’all going straight down.” I mean, He asked forgiveness for the people who crucified Him. Obviously hell is real, but I can’t imagine a person who has a “heart of flesh instead of a heart of stone” who doesn’t at least hope deep down that Jesus will save all souls.
Thanks in advance. Pls pray for me if you read this. Struggling with despair.
Exodus 90. There's a section in their app about Spiritual Desolation that has recently helped me.
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God is with you. It may be a good time to ask a therapist to help you conquer despair. God wants you to be well. Despair does not come from Him. You can be freed from despair by learning enough of the Truth to be set free. I am praying for you ❤
Invite it in. God is with you. Know that it is nothing. It only has power over you if you give it power. Call on Jesus, He’s right there with you walking your life with you. He has you. You two are doing your life together. You are not alone. The despair is first created by your internal messaging and then the feelings, in response lend power to it. None of that is real. It’s all nothing. You and God can do this together.
Lord, I know that my trials in life are a grace. They may not seem to be at the moment I endure them but they are. Help me especially with (state your current intention). I surrender this situation to You and thank You for Your perfect love and strength. Jesus, I trust in You❤❤❤
I'm a survivor of sexual abuse by a priest, and I'd really love to see a discussion on the spiritual trauma that happens with that. I've worked through a lot of it, but in the immediate aftermath it can feel like God's complicit in the abuse (or worse) because this person you were seeking God through, and often been deeply vulnerable with (I was assaulted in the confessional) has hurt you so deeply. It's really awful to experience PTSD triggers at mass or when you try to go to confession.
I do wish Matt would have a guest on about this particular subject. The Sisters of the Little Way (new religious order out of Portland) would probably be good to talk to-- two of their three founding members have suffered that kind of abuse (one of whom is Sr. Theresa Althiea, the "momento mori" nun) and they've dedicated their lives to working with people who have been scandalized by the Church. Another one would be Sara Larson, founder of Awake (lay organization that does awareness and survivor outreach work), or Fr. Thomas Berg (Former Legionare of Christ who's done a ton of work with people who have been abused in the Church). There's people who are faithful Catholics and would give good, competent interviews about this stuff, and I think it'd make a really interesting episode.
That would be a very serious service to the Church - and her wounded ones. I don't know if this will help you at all, but as a catechist of adults, one thing I tell them they can do when they are plagued by thoughts that open wounds or that cause them anger, envy, resentment, bitterness, fear, anxiety - any kind of thoughts or emotions that they have which, at the same time, make it impossible for them to trust in God, or obey God, or pray. It can be sinful thoughts or angry thoughts, or fearful thoughts - as long as the thoughts are harming you and not making you feel God's peace and safety and joy, you can do this. Address the thought and name it, then rebuke it and cast it out in the name of Jesus. For example, 'Spirit of lust, in the name of Jesus Christ I rebuke you and command you to leave me.' Then a Hail Mary and then 'St Joseph, terror of demons, pray for me.' It's not possible actively to focus one particular thought and actively think another thought. As soon as you find yourself going to that trauma, those thoughts, memories, wounds that unsettle your relationship with God - speak to it, name it: 'Spirit of fear/shame/anxiety/dread, in the name of Jesus Christ, I rebuke you,' etc. Or 'Spirit of woundedness, in the name of Jesus Christ, I rebuke you; leave me and do not return.'
I have never found this NOT to work, whether I was having temptations, or going over and over wounds from past harm, or on a hamster-wheel of angry thoughts... Name it, rebuke it in the name of Jesus Christ, tell that 'spirit' to GET OUT. Pray a Hail Mary. Invoke St Joseph. By the time I've done that, the thought has lost its power and disappears very quickly after that.
God absolutely wants to set you free from the memories of your abuse. That doesn't mean your memory is wiped out; it means that the memories no longer have any power over you. You have to actively recall them, and when you do, they are somehow 'dry facts' and have lost their emotional content that can cause any kind of physical or emotional or spiritual suffering in you. Every time you go to Mass, lay it all on the altar (put it in the chalice of Christ's sufferings) and any time the memories try to steal your peace - rebuke them, cast them out; call on Mary and Joseph. God wants to set you free from the trauma; he doesn't want the 'spirit of trauma' to 'own you' though your memory or triggers; he wants his Holy Spirit to suffuse you with peace and healing.
I have prayed for you. God bless you.
Thank you for the prayers. ❤
Prayers for you, Gianna. He is so much greater and He knows and accounts for all of your sufferings and has a great place for you, near His Heart where your suffering unites to His and you are so special to Him. ❤️
God bless you. CK
@@janellemarierose what is your channel?
The question about past therapists that were Christian rather than Catholic… I feel your pain! Two of my therapists told me that my “Catholic guilt” was keeping me from healing. This was frustrating because they began debating with me theologically and I simply had to say, “Listen, I get that we have different views on faith, but it’s not my Catholicism that is making me feel shame; it’s my life experiences. I believe that Jesus is my savior and his love is for me and I am worthy of it. I just try to take responsibility where I need to.” It is upsetting when they blame my religion rather than circumstances that have happened to me.
Matt, thanks for posting this video. The Church really needs to do more for those of us with PTSD. Thank you for shining a light on this.
I am desperately seeking healing in my body, brain and spirit, all body systems and mind
God be with you.
I love Matt, he's humble, empathetic, kind and unafraid to compliment others.
He's doing really well. He used to say something like this almost every video, "I love that and I hate myself for it." As if he could never enjoy anything. It bothered me immensely. I hope he never stops Pints because they get better and better. Great convos.
I am fortunate enough to do IFS work with Dr. Crete’s organization and it’s been life-changing.
I’m a traditional Catholic, and I would say it’s the *only* model of psychology I’ve found that truly honors a Catholic life lived with Our Lord. I truly believe there is a purgative element to doing this work and that, in doing so, we are making ourselves a more fitting tool to be used by God to bring about His glory.
This is one, very good, way to keep the Mystical Body of Christ in top shape lol. 😁
Did you find your counselor through their RCC?
Great feedback. I'm really interested in this model. As a Psychologist (and Catholic) myself, I'm curious (if you don't mind me asking) what it is about this model that particularly honours the living out of a Catholic life (as you put it)?
Ordered the book. Please pray for me.
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I'm further in the video and now feel a lot better about EMDR.
But also for the people with ADHD. Be careful taking depression meds. I had MDD and PTSD cause of some horrible junk I've been through. I no longer have MDD but I do still struggle with PTSD (on occasion. It's a lot better.)
But what I've found is every time I've been on depression meds, I became suicidal. And I learned it was because I didn't have a chemical imbalance of serotonin. I was constantly overstimulated and didn't know how to practice introspection or connect my feelings with my body. So taking those meds just made that worse.
Therapy is super important. It's really helped me. And learning more about my disabilities so I can plan for what I need and learn to advocate for myself was really helpful.
Advocating was scary at first because I was so used to emotional and physical abuse and abandonment. Being honest and asking for what I needed was very scary. I was perpetually stuck in fawn or flee for a good part of my life. I still struggle with it on occasion. But what I've learned is that advocating for yourself is worth fighting to learn how to do.
Thanks, appreciate your feedback on EMDR. I’ve had those reservations also.
As a Psychologist and practicing Catholic, have really enjoyed this video so far. Looking forward to listening to the rest. Thank you both for this very interesting podcast.
I love his point about doing part work during prayer! When I’m working with my parts, whether in therapy or not, Jesus always shows up when I need Him most. I don’t know exactly how to explain it, but sometimes I’ll be working with an exile that’s very wounded and then all of the sudden, I gain a deep awareness of the Lord’s presence with that part and He heals it. Sometimes Mary will come too, with her motherly touch, especially with some of my very young parts. I always welcome the Holy Spirit into the space before I start parts work.
I really love dr Crete explanation of this amazing work. I am therapist myself and since discovering IFS model trauma work with my clients have transformed.
Thanks for your input. I wonder if video visits can be done with these issues and regime.
I recently found my way back to Christ again. I found your podcast and the suggested videos that TH-cam gave were on point. In such a way, it can't be a coincedence. Thank you for doing what you do.
I agree with Dr. Crete. The world is a more worrisome place, and that's why we have more anxiety. Overwhelm and also major breakdowns in the structures that make us feel safe. Families.
I'm excited for this! I've been praying for healing of my PTSD so I can handle stress better. ❤️🙏😊
I loved this interview. It was incredibly helpful. Praise be to the Lord. I want to buy this book.
So glad you're having this man on. *(edit) His guest appearances on Dr. Peter Malinoski's podcast are excellent imo, and getting him more exposure is so good for the Church.
This was a fantastic conversation but I take some issue with the part around narcissistic personality disorder. Of course their actions stem from woundedness. But the incredible damage they can inflict on other human beings with their behaviors and their often unwillingness to even entertain the idea they might have parts that need healing should have been mentioned. We can have a disposition of compassion for these individuals internally, but for many of us in relationship with someone who truly has this disorder, the priority must be to keep oneself safe from their predatory behaviors. Compassion and empathy can often work against the healthy person, as a truly narcissistic individual will use that compassion as a manipulative tool.
I totally agree!
Dr Crete's favourite endorsement: "This beautiful book needs to be in the hands of every Christian on a journey of healing and those involved in trauma recovery work! Dr. Crete has written a book that has finally brought needed clarity to the Internal Family Systems model for Christians. As a wounded healer myself, I found that the Litanies of the Heart finally gave parts of me the language to call out to my Beloved Father in gentleness and trust.
Shannon Mullen, Ph.D., CSAT-S"
Pray for me
Thanks for having Dr Crete on again. I have greatly benefitted from IFS parts therapy with a Catholic therapist, now on my own. Cant wait to read the book, it’s on preorder 😊
I have a lovely Christian counsellor who specializes in IFS and honestly, it’s really helping! I have so much more freedom and the capability to make way better choices throughout my day to day! It’s been huge for getting over the hurdle that trauma can be in trying to develop virtue
So glad you had this program. My book is similar. As a Christian therapist who specializes in the treatment of sexual abuse this is exactly the kind of work I started out facilitating in therapy. In the 80’s We are to love our parts into healing. The carnal nature parts are wounded and need to be healed. Sexual abuse is often at the root of porn. People don’t recognize that they have been sexually abused. First exposure to porn is sexual abuse. You can’t heal what you deny or rebuke or shame.
Leisure vs Dissociation segment very helpful- so beautifully, perfectly articulated: 'in the zone' vs 'under a spell'. I can use that for discerning and describing addictive unhealthy activities versus truly good times. God bless
@1:17 Crete on anxiety and our systems being overwhelmed by technology and information. Matt with his phone: I want to look something up. Continue. 😂
Well... I'm pretty sure that Matt admits to having ADD.
@FigaroHey Matt gets a pass, but it is funny how this happened.😂 l like to call it HAD, rather than ADD. Hyper Attention Disorder. There is no deficit to my attention, it's everywhere! 😊
So happy to hear this book being plugged. Reading it will be part of my Lenten journey.
I thought this was going to be boring, but it's been really interesting.
Love Dr Gerry and Dr Peter. Dr Gerry’s work isn’t activating, while Dr Peter’s IFS work is some heavy lifting. Cannot express my delight at these two doctors work.
Dr. Flood!!!! What a small world, I took a philosophy class from him while at NDSU.
Two chapters into the Litanies of the Heart and it’s awesome, loving the litanies and exercises. Thank you doc!
We are made in the image and likeness of a triune God - a Trinity of relationships. It should be no surprise - if the family is an incarnated image of the Trinity - that we have an 'internal family.'
I’m very keen to buy this book. Thank you Matt for asking very relevant questions, you spoke out my thoughts quite often. God bless you both 🙏
I absolutely love these discussions/interviews/videos. I hope one day I will be able to share my story of how I came to Christ. I love people's testimonials. Thank you Matt and team for making a difference in my life for making these videos. 🙏🏻🥰
The parts talk is genius, especially through Christ Jesus
I've become a door mat for those who are closest to me.
That would include my 5 brothers, 1 sister, my husband, and my son!
I seem to absurb everyones pain.
Even to the point of when they are deliberately hurting me.
Its not that I am a total pushover.
Some part of me thinks that I can handle all of it!
It's exhausting!
Maybe this interview will have some advice for me!
This was a really great interview! Dr Gerry’s voice is really calming and he made IFS make so much sense.
I’m experiencing stress, anxiety, and all around unpleasant feelings I’ve never experienced before. I’ve never been an “anxious” person but the past week has been demoralizing. I can’t pinpoint any particular stressor. I just know in the past 2 years I got married (less than 3 months ago), bought a house, graduated college, got a full time job. I love my wife so much but I feel bad talking to her as the man in the relationship. Any advice or prayers would be much appreciated. Thank you!
I had the absolute best ever therapist. I walked away from years of therapy with her wholeheartedly knowing that everyone needs someone like her in their life. Even if only for a short time. She was the healthiest thing to ever happen to me.
She used CBT and EMDR.
This sounds uncomfortably a lot like shadow work and I don't know how to feel about it.
This interview is beautiful! Thank you❤
I’ve seen some conservative commentators (including conservative Catholic ones) criticize therapy, specifically I remember watching Candace Owens (a non Catholic conservative) and Matt Walsh (a conservative Catholic) make different videos criticizing therapy, I don’t know what to think about this, conservatives are generally in line with Christian/Catholic thinking, but I’ve also seen many respectable Catholics endorse therapy, anyone have any thoughts?
Those two are wrong.
I am a therapist since 1989 and integrate the power of the Holy Spirit scriptures and use the parts model called gestalt therapy as well as cognitive therapy. I went to Our Lady of Holy Cross college for undergraduate and Tulane University advanced graduate school which was 4 th in the nation in the 80’s. There are not many good therapist “out there” most don’t have discerning and the new age techniques have crept in to therapy long ago. I don’t agree with the rapid eye movement therapy that’s a form of hypnosis and I don’t use that with my clients. Carl Young and enneagrams are created by people in the occult. People in training have little discerning like I said. Most training therapist receive is secular. I don’t refer clients out because not one of the methods they have learned to help people who have been severely traumatized. However, if one prays and seeks guidance from the Lord where to go for help I believe He will do that.❤
@@CICMCB Are you Catholic. Do you still practice? Can you help me?
They highlight all these sick individuals in the field that are clearly there with an agenda and ignoring actual scientific data that is in the field. I studied child and family development and am getting very annoyed with conservatives that are misconstruing what good parenting is because some people on the left are falsely using right terms with the wrong way of doing things. My advice to you. Don’t just listen to anyone because they have the same values as yours. No one can always be right, so be critical. The field of psychology isn’t a scam. But there are indeed nefarious people out there that are making a mockery of the field
Political conservative thought isnt necessarily synonymous with Catholic teaching. They can overlap, but theyre not the same thing.
Simple as that.
I'm glad we are talking about these type of things in the Catholic world!
This was a really helpful interview. Thank you!
So if your trying to be charitable with a neighbor but they start asking too much and one of your parts is telling you to pull back, when you tell the neighbor you're overwhelmed but they continue to make demands it's time for a major boundry? Like stopping help all together. Note this neighbor was lying,come to find out, about not having any other help.
Really great conversation...CK
To the person who is not able to cry so sorry that can feel distressing and as a therapist I can say it could be a stage headed towards clinical depression. I hope you can get some counseling in order to heal ❤
Thank you for sharing your guidance and insight Dr. Crete. My question surrounds the constant attempts at TI therapists to highly suggest EMDR prior to any other mode of therapy.
This was extremely interesting
Yeah there’s definitely a difference between forgetting a request and outride rejecting a request, the fuzzy area is when someone says “I’ll do it right after this” vs “I’ll do it later”, and then forgetting 1:48:00
If I close my eyes and just listen to this episode, I hear Coach McGuirk giving great advice to Brendon Small.
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Bringing psychology into harmony with Christianity is a key project. I think there is a space for this, but psychology should not overwhelm theology. It has been used this way in modernity.
St Ignatius of Loyola was pretty amazing at understanding the human psyche. His spiritual exercises are amazing for getting to know yourself and clearing yourself out, so to speak (one friend called it, 'hoovering the soul'). Completely Catholic SPIRITUAL EXERCISES that can be life-changing in dealing with your past wounds.
@@FigaroHey great suggestion, thanks
Good to relate to the experiences shared in the video
Romans 12:4 CPDV
"[4] For just as, within one body, we have many parts, though all the parts do not have the same role, [5] so also we, being many, are one body in Christ, and each one is a part, the one of the other."
1 Corinthians 12:25-26 CPDV
"[25] so that there might be no schism in the body, but instead the parts themselves might take care of one another. [26] And so, if one part suffers anything, all the parts suffer with it. Or, if one part finds glory, all the parts rejoice with it."
A very interesting insight, thank you. I would have liked this discussion delved further into 'self love' and a distinction made between modern and ancient psychology.
People are being subjected (including in the workplace) with much pop psychology, in many ways including 'mindfulness'. This is the opposite to the Judeo/Christian way. I hope you have another discussion on this, as this is the major cause to narcissism.
Proper leisure takes prep I think is what Matt is going for. 2:25:15
Healing our "parts" ? Maybe the title has a typo and should be healing our "pasts."
It’s parts. Kinda confusing I know. The interview will make it make sense
Think the body keeps the score.
Yeah, it’s “Parts”, a term used in relation to Internal Family Systems.
Trying to find an IFS therapist in MN
This is good conversation,could there be differ in the male \ female responses?
Does anyone have any good advice or book/vid recommendations for dealing with trauma tying back to having really hurt ppl in your past? Working through the guilt, forgiving self ect. ?
You could read Unbound by Neal Lozano. And look for a team that does Unbound prayer in your area.
Fr Chris Alar has a book on suffering from trauma that helped me immensely. He also has several videos that are helpful. Initially, the depression/trauma that hit him after losing his grandmother transformed his life. I highly encourage the book also. Another video(s) is Fr Mike Schmitz, he has such a gift of delivering the word in a way that he brings peace to as well world of chaos. I am currently reading Bible in a Year and it is fantastic. After I started reading the bible with Fr Mike and his amazing explanations it is almost like I can't stop reading it. I hope this helps. ❤
I would suggest that you deal first with your own trauma that caused you to hurt other then you will know what and how to communicate with them.
The only thing that comes to mind is retreats for former abortion workers. Maybe see if you can get in contact with someone who works with them and ask for recommendations?
I think that the state of rest is dynamic. There is action involved. The action involved is of release or emptying of what is possessed in abundance. It is an inevitable need to share the good that you have received by another being. God rested after the completion of His creation. So what did God do on the day of His rest? He blessed that day and made it holy. So what does it mean to bless? To bless is to share or give a benefit or in other words to love. God loved his creation on the seventh day. If we find ourselves on our rest day engaging on things that isolate us from the rest of those who we love than we forfeit the privilege to share God's blessings. I think in order to reach the seventh day of true rest we must receive Peace first. And who brought peace? Jesus Christ. Once peace is received through His mercy we get the Blessing which is the Holy Spirit which in essence is a gift that keeps on giving.
I love you Matt. Bc your you and all about the sauna
Very interesting and edifying interview. Matt jumps in a lot--first--to give his input, more like friends do in a sesh that a typical interview. Just an observation.
There is a couple of pathways here I see a weaving of spiritual warfare and healing of the pyche
Disregulation is a good way to describe it
1:50:49 - BOO
Idk I definitely prefer tough love. I do think it has a place.
I think that Jordan Peterson, for many people, tends the need of a father for the fatherless.
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Please pray that the whole TSA patting down of survivors can be STOPPED. There is no rhyme or reason for innocent Americans to be treated as criminals, much less a survivor, where traveling in itself is so trying.
You should have Charles Coulombe or Vincent Frankini on the show
1:24:19 does anybody know of any good catholic books that talk more about epistemology and other philosophies/ heresies and perhaps how they’re contradicted/ explained from a catholic perspective? Thanks
Six minutes in and I'm thinking this helps explain cognitive dissonance and multiple personalities.
Dr Gerry talks about this in his book, Litanies of the Heart.
1:22:00 And this is where treatment centers and their doctors and therapist are getting it all wrong. Pick up your feet and begin again, rather than get to the source, the root! Self help circles spin the same ideology. I always counsel: these places are a learning tool only, to know what you’re dealing with, but NOT, as expected by the naive, a solution to the problem. Keeping in mind, as JBP says, most of these individuals do not want help, they learn the system and then play the system to continue their criminal behaviors. Pray.
I keep trying to find the name of the book Matt mentioned for scrupulosity. Anyone catch it?
Tough love akin to cheering loudly discussion on Jordan Peterson,.. I went Wow! So good! Parenting 1O1 for young men. Sorry I missed this good attitude as a mum.
Some great advice however I completely disagree with the s s r i view. All the school s h o o r e r s we’re on them and MANY suicides we’re on them, too. Doctors say to stay on them until they work and during that time have been suicides and homicides. Methyl b vitamins are antidepressants without the negative and dangerous side effects. The medical community does not make $ with fixing vitamin deficiencies.
Hey Matt, I'm hoping you can find a (forthright) answer to this question.
Why is it that abuse survivors are barred from serving in religious life? I have heard a number of vague answers, such as, counseling may be expensive if the person needs it, it may be difficult for them to adjust to the demands of religious life, ect. All of these answers seem to be lacking in a solid argument. I believe that the truth is not afriad to be questioned, and can stand up to scrutiny. So, what is the reasoning behind this?
I'm not aware that they are barred? Sr. Miriam James Heidland, for example.
@@laimajo3547 I know the SSPX does.
@joanna883 The SSPX doesn't have legitimate authority according to the RCC. They're kinda a small, fringe community. Your question seemed like it was talking about the Roman Catholic Church's official stance or something. Maybe I'm misunderstanding...
It’s also my understanding that abuse survivors are not barred from religious life. However, there is (or should be) a threshold for mental health when it comes to religious life. I think it would be troubling if the Church allowed a person who has major mental health issues, such as bipolar, PTSD, or major depression, to take a religious (or marital vow.) And because so few of the general population, laity and clergy alike, don’t really understand these disorders, it may be that many religious orders have to set firmer boundaries than they would like.
For instance, if someone had attempted suicide and wanted to become part of a religious order, and I was the authority over that religious order, I wouldn’t know how to handle that. I might know enough to know that my congregation doesn’t have the tools necessary to deal with that. I can and should work to educate myself, but we live in a world with finite time and resources, so it may not be possible.
That’s not to say that everyone has to be perfect, but we have to respect that each order knows itself better than any one individual. So they do technically have the right and responsibility to guard their order, even if the reason they can’t accept a person is the particular congregation’s own lack of resources. It’s just not possible to be all things to all people, right?
How did the saints say to fight?
The answer to anxiety is better ingredients. Better pizza.
This reminds me of Justice for All's training on how to dialogue with pro-choice people.
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Who’s the Catholic personality?😮
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Stop interrupting the guest.
los of 6s in your ext number
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Love this show, but this is just junk psychotherapy. The research is all supporting CBT for trauma - particularly exposure therapy. Then, and the Church will eventually need to offer some proper guidance on this, psychedelics in combo with therapy has been extremely effective for the worst and most intractable case of ptsd. 75% actual cure rates. This guy's approach to ptsd is ancient history. The field has moved on man.
the evidence (as well as my clinical experience having used both) actually shows that experiential therapies are more effective in treating trauma than CBT. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5126802/#:~:text=Exposure%2Dbased%20interventions%20are%20the,PTSD%20%5B41%2C42%5D.
Science is about discovery. There is almost nothing that is supported by “all research.” We still don’t know why you have an appendix, man.
Science is good. It’s just that being “evidence-based” is not about finding one formula for all people… and then NEVER trying new approaches (or old ones.)
Will hell be empty as pope Francis has recently opined that he wishes it will be?
No.
Trent Horn just made a video about it, if you desire commentary on it.
We hope that it will be, because we love Jesus, he died for all to have heaven, and we desire the glory of Jesus Christ - which comes when people go to heaven to glorify him forever in heaven. Jesus DESERVES for everyone to go to heaven, especially the worst sinners, because they will have the most to praise him for. Does that mean everyone will automatically go to heaven? Not necessarily, because we can all choose 'not-God', and God respects our choice.
Jesus didn't give us the power to know who is in hell (though we can have moral certitude that someone is in heaven). But he certainly warned us enough how easy it is to fall into hell that we should not take it for granted that everyone will go to heaven. That's the sin of presumption.
Will heaven be full or empty? We DON'T KNOW. We earnestly hope that it WILL be empty, because it will be JUSTICE for JESUS, who died on the cross to save ALL, and who does NOT DESERVE for a single soul NOT to praise him forever in heaven. Jesus deserves a 100% attendance rate in heaven, because he deserves ALL the glory. ALL of it. From EVERYONE. So if we pretend to love Jesus, we must earnestly pray for sinners - especially the ones who have hurt us - not because they should be 'rewarded' for doing wrong, but because JESUS deserves their praise and gratitude forever and ever. For the love of JESUS and HIS glory - pray for sinners, pray for sinners, pray for sinners, with tears, pray for sinners.
@@FigaroHey But Jesus Himself said there would be people in hell.
@@brianoneel514for what it’s worth: the Creed says “He descended into hell,” when it should actually say “He descended into sheol.” Sheol is not the hell of souls that are damned. It’s a straight up mistranslation. The Word of God is inerrant, but sometimes humans still mistranslate things and those words need to be corrected. So Jesus never said “people will go to hell.” He talked about wailing and gnashing of teeth in an effort to warn people to turn from wickedness, but that’s not the same as “y’all going straight down.”
I mean, He asked forgiveness for the people who crucified Him. Obviously hell is real, but I can’t imagine a person who has a “heart of flesh instead of a heart of stone” who doesn’t at least hope deep down that Jesus will save all souls.