Firefly is the ai used by Photoshop's generative fill, so we can safely assume it will get improvements and new features added from firefly. Exactly what features, and when, no-one knows.
Wow, great improvements on the faces and limbs, which is one of the current issues with Gen Fill in Photoshop. I'm in the middle of a composite project right now for our class and I want to try this. Wahoo Adobe!
SD reference controlnet has been available for over a year... We can also do poses (rigging), lineart, depth maps, and so much more. Just got new ipadapter nodes this week.
This is really cool. I’ll have to play with it to see how much utility I can get out of it. There might be a practical application for this in real estate photography, which is what I do. I may be able to generate furniture or filling things that I normally wouldn’t be able to do. Generative Phil by itself has been extremely useful for me. Rather than having to use clone, stamping and healing brushes, I can removing correct things with less work.
@@photoshopcafeDefinitely! This may even suffice as a basic level of artificial furniture staging. You may or may not know virtual furniture staging is its own neiche and the graphic artists charge a lot for that service.
Normally I don't share your enthusiasm for most new features but this one is good. Only criticism is that the background part of a photorealistic image lacks depth. I have noticed that the algorithm here seems much better at recognising what you want from the text input than generative fill in Photoshop
Thanks for sharing. You talking about AI image creation instead of a Photoshop feature or trick is a proof that AI is taking over, or trying to. But, I think AI won't replace creators or artists. It will definitely help to speed some mechanical parts of the creative process. It takes a conscious sentient being to conceive a feeling (even before that, there needs to be a human being having a feeling), conceptualize it and express it using his/her technical expertise-paint, music, sculpture, writing, photography or any artistic field to convey that feeling. Even if machines would do that, there needs to be a creative being behind it to instructs, correct, fix or guide it.
If you have a CC subscription it's included. Depending on the plan you get 1000 fast credits a month (no one really knows what that means till April 1 when they start counting credits), you can look up all that on Adobe's site
Wow, they sure have improved it! Looks good! I don't use it since they started charging though. If I were making money from any of it I definitely would use it but just as a hobby I don't use it.
@@photoshopcafe Thanks Colin! I acutally used it this morning to try out the reference image you showed. And it works great! I have the Photography plan, I used to have the full suite but I hardly ever used any of them other than Lightroom and Photoshop so I downsized to just the Photography plan.
I have to wonder about the detractors who said AI is the work of the devil, and they will never use it. Here we are a year or so into Firefly, and it's already getting more capable, and a lot more useful. You must burn through some Generative Credits with all the experimenting you must do on our behalf, and you are certainly the most innovative user of the Ai tools I've seen, so a big thank you for that.
I suspect this will have the same detrimental effect on graphic art and photography, as the sequencer did on music. It will enable talentless people to produce an awful lot of dross very quickly. In the same way as we are up to our our ears in poor quality, uninspiring music, we will be seeing the same repetitive styles. Just as a test, I generated my own set of spaceships using a similar prompt. While they are different in detail, they are all clearly from the same family, in exactly the same way as they would have been had they all been drawn by the same artist - which, to all intents and purposes, they are.. This is hardly surprising, because computer algorithms, by their vary nature, lack the randomness of human imagination and are instead formulaic in approach. I'm sure these tools will find their place in advertising and similar industries, where they will provide a lazy and unimaginative way of producing the pictorial equivalent of musak. For genuine creative work though, they will never provide the same level of diversity and variety, nor, I suspect, any real sense of satisfaction or achievement for the individual producing the 'art'. To be fair the rot was first enabled by digital cameras - though I'm a huge fan (and extensive user) when employed in the right manner. Artificial 'Intelligence' is another nail in the coffin.
@@davidf6326 what that said, it opens the door for human created art to rise above the mundane and ordinary. Maybe ai will be a part of that along with stock photos, overlays, 3d renders and other helpers we have had over the years. I agree a lot of modern music is really boring, but there are also innovators that blend the tech in with real instruments, real music talent to create amazing music which stands out.
Looks a lot like Controlnet. I think Adobe is going to be a grolillain this aspce. Taking a long time but I guess it's better to get it right. Censorship is still thier biggest issue in my option. I see the need to censor some things but I think they are being way too heavy handed. Drives a lot of people to open source.
Adobe Firefly lacks the same emotion than Midjourney, images doesn´t look as good. It´s a good product, but not enough to compete. What I don´t understand is why Photoshop generation still have issues with faces while Firefly does a good job.
So, each day is more closely to watch people who will only write commands and choose the images that an application suggest versus people that will work with cameras, lights, scenarios and more real stuff. I will always support the real ones.
I get always blurry and deformed results, and if I try to generate people or people parts I get monstruosity or censorship. Adobe is is succeeding in making its product less and less useful and usable. I'm seriously considering not renewing my subscription.
Of course AI will change everything. It will make everything easy and boring, people will not care about images or videos, eventually less than animals do.
@@johncahill1587 My comment isn’t based on opinion, it’s based on my personal real experience on this matter. I consider myself to be what you describe as a “talented person”, and I have found that AI compliments my work, and by no manner, in any way has replaced it. My thoughts are either you embrace it or not, but one thing is for sure, your opposition to it is not going to make it go away. Either get on the bus and enjoy the journey, or get off and get left behind, and no one will care, or even notice if you do.
I really like the tutorials you guys present here but I’m so fed up with AI, as used in art. I’m so glad I’m a boomer on the way out. To me AI is like an invasive species to avoid.
Very cool. Good to see they are making improvements. I’m wondering when generative fill inside Photoshop will get an update as well.
I hope so
This was extremely helpful to watch. I followed along and came up with some cool images. Thanks.
So awesome to see! Thanks for letting us know Colin 🥳
anytime
Great demo Colin. It's amazing how quickly the quality of generated imagery is improving.
it is
As always, you have the best and easiest explanations, showing all of us how we can use these new tools to improve our art!
happy to help
Answered a lot of my questions. Thank you for your great work.
It's getting so much better. Thanks for sharing 👍🏻
happy to share
Hi Colin, this is an excellent totorial. I'm going to have fun with this. Thank you.
great, have fun! post your results on our Facebook page facebook.com/groups/53878338135
Will Photoshop have smth like this directly in its UI?
no, they taught their AI using your free images and now charge you to use it :)
@@MrDunger99us They taught it with Adobe Stock, If you are a contributor then your images were used, if you aren't, they aren't.
Firefly is the ai used by Photoshop's generative fill, so we can safely assume it will get improvements and new features added from firefly. Exactly what features, and when, no-one knows.
@@photoshopcafe used mine
This is great eye opener but how do I upload my images and get an ai background pasted on it?
Please help me😢
In Photoshop, th-cam.com/video/RBk2aaZ0RmY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=LAvedym75sTyVmUu
Wow, great improvements on the faces and limbs, which is one of the current issues with Gen Fill in Photoshop. I'm in the middle of a composite project right now for our class and I want to try this. Wahoo Adobe!
Its slowly improving just as we expected it would :)
Great tutorial, it's a really useful addition thank you for the heads up👊
you're welcome
Amazing! so exciting the future is!
its here
I always learn something when I watch one of your videos. Thanks!
So glad to hear it
SD reference controlnet has been available for over a year... We can also do poses (rigging), lineart, depth maps, and so much more. Just got new ipadapter nodes this week.
cool
This is really cool. I’ll have to play with it to see how much utility I can get out of it. There might be a practical application for this in real estate photography, which is what I do. I may be able to generate furniture or filling things that I normally wouldn’t be able to do. Generative Phil by itself has been extremely useful for me. Rather than having to use clone, stamping and healing brushes, I can removing correct things with less work.
There are definitely applications for Real Estate, curious to hear your thoughts once you've used it a bit
@@photoshopcafeDefinitely! This may even suffice as a basic level of artificial furniture staging. You may or may not know virtual furniture staging is its own neiche and the graphic artists charge a lot for that service.
Great content! I just subscribed to your channel!
Awesome! Thank you!
Normally I don't share your enthusiasm for most new features but this one is good. Only criticism is that the background part of a photorealistic image lacks depth.
I have noticed that the algorithm here seems much better at recognising what you want from the text input than generative fill in Photoshop
Thanks, you can tell the ai to reduce the depth of field
Is there a way to generate a face and then use that same face over and over for different poses etc?
not really, unless you composite the face
They're getting so close to where opensource SD was a year ago :o
lets talk in another year
This is great. It would be awesome to have Firefly recognize and integrate brands & licenses, eg. Porsche.
Thanks!
Oh wow! Thanks so much :)
Thanks for sharing. You talking about AI image creation instead of a Photoshop feature or trick is a proof that AI is taking over, or trying to. But, I think AI won't replace creators or artists. It will definitely help to speed some mechanical parts of the creative process. It takes a conscious sentient being to conceive a feeling (even before that, there needs to be a human being having a feeling), conceptualize it and express it using his/her technical expertise-paint, music, sculpture, writing, photography or any artistic field to convey that feeling. Even if machines would do that, there needs to be a creative being behind it to instructs, correct, fix or guide it.
I see it as another tool, not a replacement for creativity
@@photoshopcafe that's correct, it is a tool.
Does this require a subscription and how many credits or creations can you do before you run out?
If you have a CC subscription it's included. Depending on the plan you get 1000 fast credits a month (no one really knows what that means till April 1 when they start counting credits), you can look up all that on Adobe's site
Informative tutorial on some great technology!
Glad to help
Wow, they sure have improved it! Looks good! I don't use it since they started charging though. If I were making money from any of it I definitely would use it but just as a hobby I don't use it.
Its free to use if you have a valid subscription of any kind
@@photoshopcafe Thanks Colin! I acutally used it this morning to try out the reference image you showed. And it works great! I have the Photography plan, I used to have the full suite but I hardly ever used any of them other than Lightroom and Photoshop so I downsized to just the Photography plan.
This is insanely cool!
I think its what we need
Thank you sir!
This is an absolute game changer of a feature.
I think so too
is it free to use?
If you have a CC subscription
Great, more selfie photos, how creative .
And did you watch the other examples? Course not
@@photoshopcafe I saw enough,
Apparently not
Nice sketch 😊
thanks
NIce, Freepik has a similar functionality.
awesome
I have to wonder about the detractors who said AI is the work of the devil, and they will never use it. Here we are a year or so into Firefly, and it's already getting more capable, and a lot more useful. You must burn through some Generative Credits with all the experimenting you must do on our behalf, and you are certainly the most innovative user of the Ai tools I've seen, so a big thank you for that.
I suspect this will have the same detrimental effect on graphic art and photography, as the sequencer did on music. It will enable talentless people to produce an awful lot of dross very quickly. In the same way as we are up to our our ears in poor quality, uninspiring music, we will be seeing the same repetitive styles.
Just as a test, I generated my own set of spaceships using a similar prompt. While they are different in detail, they are all clearly from the same family, in exactly the same way as they would have been had they all been drawn by the same artist - which, to all intents and purposes, they are.. This is hardly surprising, because computer algorithms, by their vary nature, lack the randomness of human imagination and are instead formulaic in approach.
I'm sure these tools will find their place in advertising and similar industries, where they will provide a lazy and unimaginative way of producing the pictorial equivalent of musak. For genuine creative work though, they will never provide the same level of diversity and variety, nor, I suspect, any real sense of satisfaction or achievement for the individual producing the 'art'.
To be fair the rot was first enabled by digital cameras - though I'm a huge fan (and extensive user) when employed in the right manner. Artificial 'Intelligence' is another nail in the coffin.
@@davidf6326 this. Very much this. No talent required.
@@davidf6326 Superbe comment ! 👏👏👏🙌🙌🙌
Thanks for the comment and compliment, I see it as another tool in my toolset to help me, not replace me.
@@davidf6326 what that said, it opens the door for human created art to rise above the mundane and ordinary. Maybe ai will be a part of that along with stock photos, overlays, 3d renders and other helpers we have had over the years.
I agree a lot of modern music is really boring, but there are also innovators that blend the tech in with real instruments, real music talent to create amazing music which stands out.
OMG... Not like the last one I tried - she had 4 eyes... 😂😂
right? and 25 toes.. on one foot
thumbs up again!
thanks
Not nice that never talk about captions option on their mobile apps
Sorry, I don't understand this comment
I see all the tools in Photoshop disappearing and just have a text box left at the top.
lol I don't think so, there are so many ways to use photoshop, to me, it will just replace stock photography
Very interesting...
This Abode Express
Looks a lot like Controlnet. I think Adobe is going to be a grolillain this aspce. Taking a long time but I guess it's better to get it right. Censorship is still thier biggest issue in my option. I see the need to censor some things but I think they are being way too heavy handed. Drives a lot of people to open source.
It's early days for generative ai, it's only 16 months old in the mainstream
Great news! When these features appear inside Photoshop I can cancel my Midjourney subscription.
the hands? are strange
Woww❤
Adobe Firefly lacks the same emotion than Midjourney, images doesn´t look as good. It´s a good product, but not enough to compete. What I don´t understand is why Photoshop generation still have issues with faces while Firefly does a good job.
Firefly uses v2. Photoshop hasn’t been updated yet, still on v1
@@photoshopcafe Oh, ok, thank you for the info!
Cool! :)
So, each day is more closely to watch people who will only write commands and choose the images that an application suggest versus people that will work with cameras, lights, scenarios and more real stuff. I will always support the real ones.
Watch my video "Will ai replace photographers?"
The thumbnail looks fake. How can anyone possible say this looks real?
Majic
yup
Let’s be real, Adobe firefly is the worst of all AI generators.
Humans still look like straight out of horror movies and so on.
hmm, not in v2. I still think Midjourney has better hallucinations, for now. Lets look back in a year
Can AI fake money?
I don't think so, even photoshop can't scan money. For obvious reasons
I get always blurry and deformed results, and if I try to generate people or people parts I get monstruosity or censorship. Adobe is is succeeding in making its product less and less useful and usable. I'm seriously considering not renewing my subscription.
Of course AI will change everything. It will make everything easy and boring, people will not care about images or videos, eventually less than animals do.
Totally disagree. AI is a tool just like a camera or brush or sculptors’ hands. It’s up to the human being to use the tool and create.
Everything is going to be ok Barbara.
I'm a photographer, not interested in generative stuff.
ok
It’s the beginning of the end for talented people. Don’t learn how to do anything as you can now just type some words and click a button.
I disagree with that statement, I have made videos on that topic and explain better there than I can with few typed words here.
Disagree as well.
@@KevStanton It’s all about opinions. I have mine, you have yours.
@@johncahill1587 My comment isn’t based on opinion, it’s based on my personal real experience on this matter. I consider myself to be what you describe as a “talented person”, and I have found that AI compliments my work, and by no manner, in any way has replaced it. My thoughts are either you embrace it or not, but one thing is for sure, your opposition to it is not going to make it go away. Either get on the bus and enjoy the journey, or get off and get left behind, and no one will care, or even notice if you do.
I really like the tutorials you guys present here but I’m so fed up with AI, as used in art. I’m so glad I’m a boomer on the way out. To me AI is like an invasive species to avoid.
People felt that way about electricity at one time.
It's getting so much better. Thanks for sharing 👍🏻
it is