Please Stop Commenting How EVs Are Around The Corner And How ICE is Dead
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I like reading the comments to my videos. I spend a minimum of one hour each day reading comments because I see them as a very valuable qualitative insight into what people think about my content, what they like or dislike and what they would like to see in the future. The comments section is also often a great source of video ideas.
But recently I am being driven out of the comments section because its getting frustrating to read the same type of comment over and over.
So today I'm doing this video which is a collective response to all these comments and a very simple and objective explanation of why EVs are not around the corner and why internal combustion is not dead and won't be dead any time soon.
Now before we begin I feel that it's very important that I say something first and that is that I am in no way against electric vehicles and that I do not believe that internal combustion is a permanent and future-proof solution to human mobility. What I do believe is that the challenges present in humanities future are substantial and extremely complex, however believing that an aggressive push for the electrification of mobility will resolve these challenges is incredibly short-sighted.
Refueling a combustion car to 100% takes between 2-7 minutes and gives you an average range of around 500km (310.6 miles). If the vehicle is a diesel the range is usually around 700km or more. At the extreme end of the scale we of course have combustion vehicles whose ranges easily exceed 1200km. Now according to the USA Federal Highway Administration - Department of Transportation the average american drives 14,263 miles or 22.954 kilometers. The average EU citizen drives 7021 miles or 11.300 km every year. Now if we take the average between USA and EU to be the global average this gives us 10642.224 miles or 17.127 km per year. Now let's forget our optimistic 2 minute gas station stop. Let's say that we spend 7 minutes at the gas station every time. The end result is that the average citizen of planet earth spends 239.8 minutes or 3.99 hours every year refueling the average combustion car.
Now the average current electric car adds around 3.5 miles or 5.6km of range for 1 minute of charging. But let's forget the average. Let's take this. A Porsche Taycan turbo. It costs around 150.000 $ or 160.000 EUR and while it definitely doesn't have an actual turbo it can add 14 miles or 22km of range for 1 minute of charging if you can find a level 3 charger.
This means that if you're an owner of a Taycan turbo that only charges on level three chargers you will spend 12.9 hours each year charging your Porsche. This means that if all of our cars somehow magically turned into Taycans and all of our gas stations magically turned into level three chargers we would still spend more than three times as much time recharging as refueling leading to large waiting lines on all the charging stations. Which means that we need more than three times as many level three charging stations as we currently have gas stations.
So charging stations won't work. Well there's an easy fix for that let's all charge at home. Well that's why we're here. Can you imagine every car here having a charging station for itself? Because that's what you need to guarantee that everyone can go to work tomorrow. And all of them have to work. All the time. Again imagine the amount of cables, labor and maintenance needed to make that happen for just this one single residential area alone. And there's millions of residential areas like this around the world. Getting them all equipped with charging stations is an even more massive undertaking than building three times more level three charging stations than gas stations.
Now I know what you're saying, charging times and ranges are improving all the time so all of these statistics don't matter. Yes, battery technology is advancing, but it's not doubling in capacity or charging times every year. It's improving a little at a time. And remember, we're basing our whole scenario on a very expensive luxury car . It will take some time for the taycan's specs to become the industry average. It took us almost a century to increase the average horsepower output of a car from 26hp in 1930 to 128hp in 2018. It also took us a century to build the infrastructure to support combustion cars. The roads, the workshops, the gas stations. Even something that's relatively simple in comparison such as increasing a usb stick's capacity from 8MBs to 256 GB took a decade. Big changes take time.
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Please talk about gas cars... natural gas or propane not gasoline
I know I’ve made dick head comment.
I love you brother man.
And your content.
To repeat my comment variable turbo!
Not just for diesels. Debut in the 80s o gas cars!
The new Porsche one is awesome!
I would rather have your content of choice than owning a Porsche. Even an electric one.
Say it again.
I love you, brother man.
Thank you very much! I think you covered all the valid points that these negative commenters want to ignore, except that only the wealthy few can afford to buy new EVs. While the rest of us can bearly afford to keep the gas power vehicles we have running.
I will also add the avg energy consumption is high. It doesn’t include me off the grid last year+ all of my electricity came from the sun.
I must be some sort of magician out in the woods conjuring up electricity.
And when the sun doesn’t shine I have a bicycle attached to an alternator.
And it should be illegal to manufacture an electric car without a solar pannel on it.
@Kirk Wolfe You don't need to be hostile. D4A presented the current facts in an adult and educated manner. We should all strive to be mature adults regarding the future of energy production and consumption and how it impacts the living conditions of our childer's futures. Do you want future generations to be fascist, forcing their will onto others?
keeping an old car running effectively is far more useful at reducing total overall pollution than scrapping it and buying a new one. moving away from things like appliances and cars being disposable like cellphones will go much farther than pushing evs
Exactly! A 90’s pickup is WAY better for the environment than a brand new Tesla.
Speaking as a person that drives a 1996 well maintained car regularly I concur. Keeping them on the road is the best thing by far all around.
@@crouchedcrusader9839 You'd wish that was the case
Id love for this to be true.
@@ignasanchezl it literally is bud.
Im so happy you decided to address these people, its starting to become a real problem these days unfortunately. We need more people like you telling the general public that just making EVs doesn't magically make everything better. Thank you!
EV or Gas, What Pollutes More? th-cam.com/video/1oVrIHcdxjA/w-d-xo.html
@@HorstSchlaemmer00 that video is NONSENSE propaganda! I stopped watching when he said "millions of gallons are spilled in the oceans". Tell that IDIOT that oil leakage occurs naturally in the depths of the Oceans and that there are certain bacteria that FEED on that oil and clean it naturally. Green agenda BS! Moreover, I liked the fact that he mentioned pumping oil but didn't touch the mining processes that go into mining rare earth materials for EVs or "renewables".I doubt that he mentioned anything by the end of his clip in relation to production emissions of EVs. Just green propaganda.
Yea allot of people like to boil down extreemly complex problems like climate change, war, gun violence, corruption, polarization, poverty and say if we just "insert comment here" everything will will be fine and we won't have to worry any more, problems like these are not black and white if they were so easy to fix, well humanity would have already done it
30 to 50 years. We will need thousands of new POWER PLANTS. (Not wimpy windmills)
The power does not exist to run millions of 30 amp 230 volt chargers at the same time.
@@TheBandit7613 "whimpy Windmills" are cheap and effective Power plants
I don’t understand why you don’t have more subs. You are by FAR the most logical content creator delivering intelligent material. Please don’t be deterred by the comments of the lowest common denominator. Thank you for doing you.
On the Autobahn, an good ICE car beat the crap out of any EV, if you run at 300km/hr +. We should see more of these videos. An average diesel truck beats any thing Tardsla can throw it at.
Except this is a bunch of false assumption and outdated numbers to push misinformation. He already has way too much subs and views because such misinformation is popular to easily brainwashed.
@@NeojhunIn about 3 years you’ll see how wrong you are. EVs might be the future, but probably not in your feeble lifetime.
He has over a million, that's not enough??
Logic is not popular, never been, quiet possibly never will be.
Lets be honest us nerds are a njche audience. Yes, i said it, petrolheads are just nerds with machine grease.
...on the bright side we have channels like Isaac Arthur, Common Sense skeptic ...etc.
Basically the "come wit us to te Nebula platform" crowd.
The real question why this channel is not among them.
One thing that also wasnt touched on is powergrid capacity. I live in switzerland. The past 5 years has seen a massive increase in EV and plugin hybrid use. Its at the point now that people storing their cars in underground garages under apartment buildings are wanting to plug in their EVs but it would require the building owners to install new wiring and highvoltage charging ports that cost a fortune and many are either not willing to do it or the local energy supplier dosent allow it for the simple fact they are already nearing their electricity production capability.
With the gas shortage due to the russians and the government asking people not to charge their cars overnight because of it, i think many people are starting to see that a full EV future is still decades if not a century away.
Surprised more people aren't bringing this up. I'm all for electrification but the grid worldwide is going to have to be MASSIVELY upgraded to keep up with the increased power demand. Converting gas cars to electric doesn't eliminate that energy usage, it moves it to a system that in many cases is already overloaded. Gotta focus on that first.
I'm a mechanical engineer. I've been giving people similar arguments why EVs aren't happening for 30 years. The power grid isn't there. The generation capacity isn't there. Battery and solar tech are martial intensive. Maybe if we went to modular nuclear reactors, but no one wants those either.
Which is to say nothing of the requirement of resources. Copper as a basic one. Where is it all going to come from overnight? We talk about reducong the co2, how much co2 will be spent building the infrastructure and how long till we see that offset? Its all a little rediculous when you understand things on a deeper level. Most people fail to understand their morning coffee and toast are the most damaging to the environment which could be changed overnight. Ever looked into how much water goes into avocados or worse yet, almonds? Cars arent our biggest problem.
@@keldinks When ICE started mass production (Ford) there was no chain of gasoline stations. How much CO2 was spend building the infraestructure? First stations have a single walled underground tank. How much underground water was contaminated, How much was spend changing all those old tanks for dual wall tanks?. How many were killed by lead poiswoning? EV's are a disrruptive technology
@@EnriqueThiele If EVs are such a disruptive technology then they would stand on their own merit in free market without huge government subsidies and legislation in their favor. There was no such subsidies for IC cars except for building roadways. That infrastructure now exists except EVs aren't paying their fair share in road taxes ad another form of hidden subsidy.
the best thing we can do are hybrids, molten salt reactors. EV is good for some small 2 passenger shared city car (like shared bikes)
Wind and solar are too intermittent to meet the day to day demands, tidal has the potential to help the supply which while still intermittent it is predictable. Like we know what the tides are doing today, next week or 10 years from now but do we invest ... no because they are more expensive than wind turbines.
100% true. Thanks for clearing the air, bro! The only people repeating the echo chamber thoughts about EVs have no idea how they physically work and the infrastructure demands associated with all-EV commerce.
Yeah... And the electricity what comes form power plants doesnt all go to the houses and cars etc.. If i remember right about 40% to 60% goes off by chancing the voltages etc down the line....
ICE engines faced the same thing back in the day. Horse riders said all the stuff the ICE drivers are saying today and how did that turn out?
Fact is, when governments pass laws that push in a certain direction, business follows or business dies. Old businesses go to the wall and bright new businesses step into their place offering what the dinosaurs couldn't or wouldn't.
That's the way of life. All things die and we're in the era of the death of the ICE car for public use.
Secondly, we';re just at the start of a serious push towards EVs so of course they don't compare with ICE which has been developed for over a century and a half including all the support infrastructure but EV will catch up and will replace ICE.
The infrastructure is a challenge, but not the primary one. Lithium supply is the bottleneck. We only have around 1/20th of the required lithium mining capacity, and environmental groups are blocking new lithium mines. Everything else is just details. There are simply not enough raw materials.
@@joels7605 at least in the US grid capacity is also a critical bottleneck. Without commissioning new nuclear derived power stations and a viable alternative to Lithium cells, the ideal EV future everyone's clamoring about probably isn't going to happen any time soon.
@@captainwin6333 You have understand nothing of the video. ICE vehicles was better then horses, EVs are not better than ICEs. Not for now. But if you only want to nourish chinese economy, EVs are the perfect solution.
It wast mentioned in video, but the most efficient green way to travel is to use trains instead if cars, and build nuclear power plants
You see, electric trains are in fact hyper-futuristic EV vehicles, that dont need to ride with useless heavy battery all the time
If you’re not already an engineer, you certainly think like one. Very pragmatic and think intuitively about issues and how they are solved, and if they are solved efficiently and effectively. Love your videos
Well said. This is the way you cut through the bs. He also goes a step further than repeating stats. The more you can remove yourself from opinions/biases/feelings/anecdotal evidence/scientific denial/agendas/politics, the closer you get to reality, and what options for measurable progress are available.
No matter what the issue, or conclusion you come to, you will run into opposition. Any two people can have a difference of opinion, but no one should settle on a difference of fact. Dealing with problems pragmatically shouldn't be a rarity, yet it is, enough to be refreshing when i see it.
@@ctdieselnut I like the "thinks like an engineer" comment. It's complimentary to engineers. You're comment touches closer to the central truth which, I think, is simply that d4a thinks for himself. He consumes information from all relevant sides, and valuing objective truth, forms his own opinion with his own mind. I say this not just to commend d4a, but to promote that habit which is indeed too rare. The commonplace habit is to jump on a bandwagon and pledge loyalty to groupthink. Groupthink is boring. Individuals invested in the truth are interesting.
Your comments at the end are spot on, I wouldn't be at all surprised if most anti-ICE people have 3 kids, fly away on foreign holidays and heat their homes to 20deg+. But they'll still rush to sign a petiton to ban 20y/o cars from their local city centre...
it's the case in france, they ban old cars in the city, the cars that only poor people can afford.
Exactly, they think only the rich should be allowed to drive and go on holiday.
3 kids are great. looking at the current trends of genderism, western culture will get extinct. I hope that clever people will decide to have enough kids, grow them properly to be able to solve problems of previous generations who had no idea of what are they doing. 20+ deg is a relatavi thing. norway? spain? what are you talking about. :) banning old cars is stupid. swap that baby with a modern engine :D
That's a lot of assumptions for someone who assumes that they are anti-ICE.
I'll have my Dodge Viper sucking down 6 miles per gallon because I want to drive it... While still acknowledging that an EV is more practical as a daily driver around town.
I'll set my AC down to 65° F, and then my heat... Well I keep my heat at the same spot that's just the temperature I want the house. A little too cold.
I'm not for banning any cars. But I'm also for most of you appliance drivers to switch over to EVs because they will work for most of you.
It may not work for most of Europe where he is because a ton of people live in shoe boxes but the problem here in the US is the fact that we're all sprawled out in our own personal family homes with our own garage and our own electrical meter and you literally just need to plug it into the wall
@@TravisFabel Then make sure EVs are sold at reasonable prices instead of costing 30% more then same car with ICE engine... As for you being in USA what does that matter you once again gave opinion of someone who clearly has money for multiple cars probably lives in dope half mansion home and you are acting as if that's standard, pretty sure not everyone in US is stacked with money ready to throw it around.
THANK YOU.
One of many things that annoys me about this "electric is here now" argument is that it seems to have NO memory of the past. If you'd asked people in 1999 what engines we'd have in 2022, they'd have all said something other than the ICE. However, here we are 24 years later, with ICEs. YET... the other day when I told someone that I might keep my manual Mazda to teach my 12 year old son to drive on, they were like "Sorry but he won't be driving petrol."
LOL, righto... so in 24 years we've managed to turn about 5% of cars on the road to electric OR hybrid... but in the next 4, that's going to become 100%?
Thank God we have a predatory oil industry lobbying politicians and bribe them billions, otherwise we might have an alternative :,(
No, but it will be 33% of new production. Dude, I get it. I wish we could all be blasting around on air cooled 2 stroke motorcycles, but like it or not, Times are changing.
Pray tell, which country are 5% of the cars on the road electric and hybrid?.
If were speaking globally, electric and hybrid would be really struggling to make 0. 005%.
EVs are far less than 5%, and cost double to insure, and triple to buy. The majority of cars may be priced off the road, but current car numbers will never be electric.
yeah, and there's other even bigger problem that no one talks about, the more EV cars you have, the more energy youll need.
if the world struggles even to maintain electricity on houses, it's impossible for EV cars
Oh my God - THANK YOU for making this video! I've been beating this figurative drum for many years now, all the while watching everyone around me roll their eyes and think I'm nuts. You're so right, humanity's insatiable desire for new crap (cars) every few years is a huge problem. If we all just drove our old cars for 20 years or more (on average), we actually make a difference towards saving the plant.
Comparing marginal emissions per mile of an old car with lifetime emissions per mile of a new car tells you whether it is better to keep on driving the old one or scrap it and get a new one. Often, it's better to scrap the old one and get a new (EV) one.
Background: yes, production of an EV generates a lot of emissions. But in use, they generate much less emissions than a petrol car. If the EV lasts long enough to exceed the break even point (which they nearly always do), a new EV is better than a new petrol car.
Now, your old car is already there, so you don't have to produce it anymore. Say your old car has marignal emissions of X/mile. The new car has emissions of Y during production and subsequently Z/mile. Thus, if (Y/mileage life of new car + Z) < X, it's better to scrap the old car and get the new car.
If you don't scrap the old car but sell it to someone else who has an even older (even more pulliting) car, who then scraps that even older car, you shouldn't look at X of your car in the above equation, but at X of that older car. This also holds if there are more steps (cars/owners) in between.
Um yes. We can all do algebra, but your point completely relies on presumptions in its favour. Hard to argue with that, or better still, why bother ? If that's your belief, fine, you're entitled to it. Personally as I think I was quite clear on, I fully support the vloggers (so sorry I can't recall your name - please feel free to edit) opinion! And to end this silly retort, I'm absolutely entitled to my opinion.
@@lisabeck3963 You are of course entitled to your opinion, please forgive me if I made you think otherwise. I merely try to give a different point of view based on math, which i believe is closer to being factually correct. In my view, you can only call one thing better than the other if you actually compare the two on measurable metrics. This is what my equation is aimed at.
You present no counter arguments against my arguments. Could you state which incorrect presumptions you think I make? Maybe I could learn something.
@@Gnerko123 Sadly too often people are dishonest when estimating emissions of EVs. Most proponents handwave away the issue of power generation and claim that it will all be provided by solar and wind anyway. Also as recent events shown, EVs have a problem with cold, that doesn't seem to be going away any time soon despite global warming
@@wumi2419 Well yes you have to look at power production emissoins of course, otherwise it's just dishonest. The point is that more often than not, even if you do look at power producoitn emissoins, EV's still come out less environmentally damaging than comparable ICE cars.
I often see an argument along the lines of "EV cars pollute, e.g. battery production and power generation. We don't need such batteries for ICE cars, and it doesn't matter whether emissoins are from the tailpipe of the car of from the chimney of the power plant. Thus, EV cars are worse for the environment than ICE cars."
The roblem with this, is that it is a quantitative conclusoin (EV pollution > ICE pollution) without a quantitative comparison. This means that such a conclusoin is unfounded.
An Alternative argument starts similarly; "EV cars pollute too, so they aren't as green as people make them out to be.". this is a straw man argument, no one is arguing EV cars do not pollute at all. The point is that in most cases, they pollute less than a comparable ICE car, not that EV pollutoin is zero.
I agree that EV cars consume more energy in cold conditions, but so do ICE cars (albeit to a lesser extent). Winter fuel mileage for an ICE car is often worse than summer mileage. Furthermore, because the ICE car spends more time in the warmup phase, emissoins are worse as well (not only per mile driven, but also per gallon of fuel consumed). These factors should be taken into account when comparing EV and ICE environemtal damage, but we cannot say a priori without making any quantitative comparison that this is what kills the case for EV's as compared to ICE's.
Your channel is so great. I love how in-depth you get on engineering, and related subjects.
Brother, 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 the last part killed me 😂seriously though, this video should be televised on every station worldwide. Keep up the good content. You're a legend.
The last part where he asks what you are doing about the problems? What is he doing? Telling others that they must do something?
Seriously 🔥
it wont be bc industry discovered EVs (and all that "green" stuff) as their new cash cow bc people buy it out of the best reason u can get as a company: egocentrical and ideological reasons to make themselves feel better (by thinking they doing SO good deeds and thus being SUCH good humans), just like they did in mediveal to release their sins
@@moonants u missed the point completely, he didnt want to save the world but just make dumbtards like u stfu
@@alpha-cf2oi Well, that was a bit pointless
I've been a master mechanic for over thirty years. The ice engine has a century of refinement and the infrastructure to support is established and proven. The rush to electric is just that, a rush. To think we can switch to electric cars overnight is lunacy. Don't believe just wait a few years and see. Great video, love your channel !
To think we can convert at all is lunacy. But then again, the naysayers said we would never convert to flying cars, cryogenics and tele-transportation.
@@miltonfriedman2325 Well first of all, obviously we'll never convert to actual flying cars.
But also, it's not just about what the "naysayers" say, it's about common sense, and research. When you realize just what the consequences of making electric cars are, and when you realize that cars not nearly the problem when it comes to carbon emissions (AHEM harvesting season AHEM), you can come to the conclusion that sometimes not all things are meant to be, no matter how good our technology is.
@@Ostan-jw2bg wow u totally not got his joke
Electric motors have been around longer than the ICE. The very first car to achieve more than 100km/h was actually an electric car.
@@SuperDirk1965 High capacity batteries are not. The Lithium-ion battery is barely a decade old, and still massively heavy despite not having legendary range. If you were American that'd be normal to have a 2-ton car, but outside of N America and Europe, cars are mostly 800kg steel kites with sub-1L engines. That is still above the competition
Love to see this comprehensive vision about how mobility switch works. Thank you so much for sharing ❤️
I could only imagine the efforts and research leading to a marvelous piece of educational video. This video sums up all the points in one cohesive demonstration.👍
The best way to eliminate those emissions would be replacing most of that base load with nuclear. But many of the same people saying EVs are the future refuse to allow nuclear.
Nuclear is giving a lot of emission too, in the mining etc
On top of that what do you do with the highly toxic and extremely radioactive waste right now all we do is put it in the ground letting it contaminate the surrounding area and making it uninhabitable for us and many other species. Nuclear may be "clean" but it's byproduct is far from that. Our tech may have reached a point where it is mostly safe but computers fail,sensors fail and redundancies fail and when all those fail you no longer have a "safe" or clean power system. The problem with technology and more so modern technology is it will fail at some point and things nowadays are made to be replaced instead of making something that will last a long time
@@Skaadi89 do you have any info on any recent event involving underground nuclear waste contamination?
@@isaias0316 you are correct I cannot find any recent events evolving contamination however its not like anyone has ever dug a bor hole next to a deep underground storage facility and took any readings either. I guess I should have put into simpler terms for everyone... radiation is bad M'kay
@@Skaadi89 Yes, you are correct, radiation itself is bad, just like carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, nitrogen oxide, lithium mining and many other things. And that's why nuclear waste is carefully sealed in containers and then buried in special sites, not just dumped into the nearest creek. I'll leave some videos on the subject so you can get a clearer picture of the subject.
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I bought a GR Yaris two weeks ago (after waiting for what felt like an eternity) and one of my acquaintances immediately started slagging me off for buying a gas guzzling dinosaur, ruining the environment and that his IONIQ5 can beat me anyway.
Tried to explain to him that I drive less than half of what he drives in a year, I don't have kids and don't plan on having them (he has 2), I use public transport in the city and I cut my meat consumption by about 80% in the past 2 years.
Did he listen? No. Kept talking about my tailpipe's CO2 pollution and was unable to grasp that our environmental impact is the sum of all our actions.
I'd almost say that these people aren't worth acknowledging and responding to, but still glad you made this video!
Some people just have no clue
Most people who have EVs have a need to feel superior. Your friend does not sound like an exception.
You lucky guy.. i only wish we can have one in the Free States of the Americas .. Yaris GR 🤤
@@GOLEG11 You're getting the roided out version soon hehe. If the GR Corolla is even half as good as the Yaris, it'd still be one of the most fun cars you could possibly buy. Coming from having a Fiesta ST before, words fail me to describe how awesome the drivetrain is. If you can, 100% get yourself on a waiting list.
They're brain dead useless idiots. They act like vegans.
Really good video!
Most people just see whats 5 meters in front of them, but can't, or don't want to see further...
Excellent and great by all means, addressed not only one aspect but multidirectional to to merge a focal point.
Simply beautiful.
Keep it up, really happy on your conclusive comments. 💕
I've watched many of your videos and enjoyed them all. And learned from them. But this is the first one I am leaving a comment on. THANK YOU for your objective analysis of all things, including the EV hype. Being able to cut through media hype to focus on real issues is a critical skill. Besides being able to do it yourself, you are also teaching others to do it. Bravo.
This.
Exactly
100%
Totally true! Well said!
Exatamente!
Your every word is pure gold, especially the last segment of the video. I live in a small town in Serbia and I keep telling all my friends and family that they don't need to drive their cars wherever they go (we say they would go to the bathroom with them if they could), everything here can be reached on foot. I bought my dream car last year and I only drive it on the weekends, when I have a scenic destination/route in mind, other days I just make sure it's in mint condition, and I believe that if more people embraced a similar approach we would reduce car emissions by a lot more than whatever EVs were supposed to achieve. I understand trailers and other hauling/logistics vehicles can't be used like this but as shown in the video the majority of vehicle pollution comes from passenger vehicles.
Keep it up, all the best from a friendly neighbour!
This! I'm glad other people realize this as well. You don't need to travel everywhere with a car! I wish more people would use cars like you mentioned, in an enjoyable way. Not putting around 5mph in traffic polluting the air so you can get to work and join a Zoom call 🙄
What is your dream car?
I have a 1973 Mustang Mach One and a vintage Jeep.
Governments grow their populations in order to pay themselves more, grow creditbubbles & hide the shortcomings of their respective economic presumptions.
Gov actions I observe are all about maximising their stifling control and extraction from the population.
Your lifestyle is the sensible counterpoint.to the efforts of Politico-corporate fascists gov
@@TheBandit7613 I got a 1994 BMW E36 :) Nothing fancy, it's not an M (couldn't afford nor find a sedan version), but it is a 6pot and I love it to bits ^^ Always wanted a naturally aspirated inline 6 and the E36 offers the creature comforts that I enjoy, some "modern" tech, yet is simple enough to be worked on by an amateur in his spare time. I plan on building it up quite a bit, eventually (perhaps) putting the S50 EU engine into it as well.
The Mustang is an absolute beauty! When it comes to SUVs I'd either go Wrangler or something Japanese, like the Land Cruiser.
@@jonnyq87 Nice choice. Inline 6 happens to be one of my favorite engines. Smooth torque. Like being pushed by the hand of god!
No drama and good longevity.
Very eloquent and well-researched video, I actually wrote an essay on this in college a couple years ago, and I fully agree with all of your points. Moreover, as I wrote it for an ethics class, one point I looked into is the rampant human rights abuse in lithium and cobalt mines. If we suddenly ramp up demand, it will only get worse, and most EV companies are promising to "phase out" slavery in their supply chains in the next decade or so, which is absolutely unacceptable. These companies don't seem to understand that if they can't afford to do something without slavery, then that should mean they *can't afford to do it*. There's no excuse.
LiFePO4 uses ZERO Cobalt. Australia is the biggest supplier of Lithium to the EV Industry by a massive lead. From what i've seen spending my whole working career in Australia. Very little human rights in the past 5 decades has been denied in Australia's Coal & Gold Mines. I have not personally been to a Hard Rock Lithium Mine but I assume they have the same level of OSHA and labor regulation.
Raw materials for battery chemistry is easy to avoid slavery based sources. "promising to "phase out" slavery in their supply chains" is impossible as the Rare Earth Metals to create Electronics i.e. MircoChips and PCBs and Catalytic Converters is way too difficult. Most Lithium Ion chemistry have ZERO Rare Earth Metals, the problem is the electronic PCB Boards. These are the same problem you have in your Modern ICE Car which you eagerly ignore. If you hate slavery sourced materials, stop using ICE cars.
Cobalt is also used in the oil industry to refine oil into fuel. I'm not sure which care requires more cobalt over its lifetime. an EV or a petrol one.
Pretty much every industry uses child slavery. It's horrible but hardly unique, only time it's ever brought up by a company is oil slandering EVs.
the recent vid on brakes got me interested, ,subbed for this thank you for presenting these facts in an interesting easy to understand way
Thanks! I've enjoyed your technical content on ICE configuration, primary/ secondary vibration, etc, for some time but this one moved me to help support the channel, if only in a very, small way. I'll be sharing this one heavily.
Sharing misinformation is even more stupid.
The irony is that secondary imbalance is easy to solve
Thank you! I sincerely appreciate your support
@@easy08154711 Tell me, what exactly are you referring to?
Thanks, it’s about time someone publicly stated the flaws of switching to EV’s.
Lots of people are, but too many have their heads buried in the sands of big tech messaging and agenda, believing this to to be the reality of the public mind. It's not.
its because is a convenient business where people make money
@@edu4818 and plays off people's ignorance and want to virtual signal and grandstand..When in reality they're doing nothing.
Well said, well done sir! The " problem" is enormously more complex then people understand.
Thank you
This video is literally what my Final Paper is all about. This will help me a lot! Thanks for talking about this subject and helping us understand what the reality really is!
Excellent work - simple facts with no hysterics and no agenda. Well done!
Thank you for getting the point. So many people in the comments immediately thought I have an agenda just because what I said disagrees with their personal agenda.
Very few facts here, lots of false assumption and outdated numbers. His agenda is Misinformation.
Thank you! 100% agree. You brought to the table quite important data that some folks try to keep silent about, for example, the percentage of heavy transportation and the feasibility of its electrification. Many wealthy people nowadays are shouting for electrification and fewer emissions while at the same time enjoying the luxury of Air conditioning, effectively they just push gas emissions away from their neighborhood and buy themselves clear conscience.
Heavy vehicles are the best for electrification. Those that do change will make a killing because the fuel cost is much lower for BEVs and fuel costs are the primary expense of operating heavy vehicles.
@@williammeek4078 If you mean heavy transport we already have electric trolleys and railways. If you mean electric busses or heavy machinery, you can be the one to find the precious metals for that lol
@@dylanhinkel3548 why would i need to find minerals when the mining companies are doing that just fine? Battery production is doubling every year.
I fully agree with the outcome of this great video! Additionally to all of you "Fans of the EV'S" I have some facts to add: The Ev's will never work the way you expect for a few reasons: 1 - there isn't enough Lithium in the world to continue making of them and digging it out causes irreversible damage to the whole area environment, 2 - the cost of replacing the batteries is crazy anywhere between 5-25k, so the cars will be scrapped = waste, 3 - there isn't enough charging stations and will never be, 4 - the charging time will screw up your plans / holidays with constant stops or if you are rushing and forgotten to charge them, 5 - there is no way of pushing them if the unexpected happens, 6 - some of these cars will be involved in crashes, so the possibility of batteries making an electric shortage will be quite high; it will be impossible to stop them ev's from burning down to the ground - that's what happened to Rimac electric super car being driven by Richard Hammond in Grand Tour season 1; the car had to be fully submerged under the water, which is not possible to do in a normal road conditions. So, the cars that are built to make no pollution will be causing it after all! 7 - they are stupid, silly cars for those who have no passion or imagination to drive a properly built combustion engine car - no real sound, no real car & 8 - Elon Musk of Tesla announced going away from ev's towards the Hydrogen cars from 2024! Put all your hate in writing now - I'll take it. Cheers!
I look and appreciate this channel not based on what the future should be in terms of mobility but because combustion motors are incredibly interesting :)
Your channel just keeps getting better and better because you pick on the hard subjects and do a great job of it. Your differential episode is now topped by this episode because it has an impact like no other. Love your work and choices man.
Absolutely brilliant channel telling the truth!
Very good video! I can’t belive why there is this HUGE push for electric vehicles when we still don’t have green energy in most parts of the world.
It makes politicians feel good about themselves. They are "moving forward"
For control.
Electric cars are easier to regulate, you can shut down the motors with wireless signals.
Because it's a thing used to keep the economy rolling... one more revenue stream in a flawed economic model that needs constant growth to function.
@@ghoulbuster1 lol, you can just as easily do that with a modern ICE vehicle.
@@mmavcanuck Not as easily done with older ICE vehicles.
Thank you so so much for seeing things as they are!! Is so good to see that we are not alone in the way we think and see things.. I love your work! Please keep on going! 👍💪😉
Some little thoughts:
- Big power plants are more efficient than small ones -> Savings in co2 emmissions in the long run with EVs (but I still don't know how long the "long run" really is.)
- Though mass electrification might not be "around the corner" I see sales of EVs going up due to their more comfortable nature (noise and vibrations)
- In my oppinion the biggest way to save energy is not some kind of "humanity is bad and evil" mentality but simply have everyone work from home who could do homeoffice. Commuting often times is just very unnecessary
- Big Power Plants ARE more efficient, but there are not enough of them, and there are NO PLANS to build more of the *most* efficient type (nuclear) any time in the next 20 years in the USA, so we are stuck with "dinosaur" technology to generate the electricity that the EVs will need.
- What is "Mass Electrification" ?? If you mean "building enough power infrastructure to transmit power to everyone who needs it" then you are correct - it is "not around the corner." Indeed, in CA it is not happening at all. CA - the largest consumer of electricity and of EVs - is actually LOSING electrical infrastructure. Ggl it for yourself, there are NO new power plants coming on line (only going off line) and NO new high power (interstate) transmission lines being planned or built. Residential lines *are* being built, that is is just dividing a shrinking pie into more slices.
- The biggest way to save energy is NOT to work from home - where everyone heats or cools a house or apt to suit themselves while they type away on a computer (or two) with full lighting in their own room. Doing all of this, PLUS taking breaks to run their microwaves or tea kettles, or watch TV or something on their non-work screen uses more electricity than if they were all in a central office. That central office runs the HVAC for dozens or hundreds of employees more efficiently than those employees' run their personal HVAC at their homes (or in their cars), and uses less electricity for them to perform the same work they would if they worked "remotely." (this is well established, and the driving reason that the State and Local Gov'ts want to move people into high rise city centers to live and work - it's more energy efficient in a LOT of different ways).
ADDITIONALLY, work at home is not available for many types of work, such as "personal" services such as nail and beauty salons, food prep/delivery (a growing industry), any manual labor or actual "making" of things, let alone the VAST numberrs of maintenance and technical people who are required to go "hands on" to keep infrastructure functioning...
FINALLY, a simple non-ggl search of "EV costs per mile vs ICE vehicles" will yield you data from 2023 which shows that the REAL costs of ownership of an EV equal or exceed the costs of ownership for ICE vehicles. Sales data (esp "resell numbers") is beginning to reflect that the public does not want EVs because they are realizing that there is no savings to them to own them. Plenty of data is also available as to REPAIR COSTS and insurance rates being MUCH HIGHER than for ICE vehicles.
PERSONALLY I can tell you that as someone who drives my ICE vehicles until they die (20+ years on 3 vehicles), my annual repair costs over the life of ALL THREE of my vehicles, have totaled less than the purchase price of a single TESLA, other than the Model 3. AND I would not want to own 2000lbs of hazardous industrial waste at the end of my EV's lifespan, whereas I can drain a few quarts of fluid from my ICE vehicle and "scrap it" for $700.
Long Story Short ... you may have noble intent, but are ill-informed (eg "wrong"), even at the time you wrote this, but even more apparently some months later, nearing the end of 2023. Would you like to reconsider and amend your comment...?
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25.02.2024
EV sales declining, Ford will shut down EV production lines in April, GM slowing down EV production across the board and revived PHEV plans (so Volt is coming back). Volkswagen (aka VAG) Cuts EV Production and closed Dresden plant in 2023.
Yesterday I saw in a news that Mercedes Benz ditches plan to only sell EVs by 2030.
All of that while Toyota is still committed to hybrid car production.
I think consumers and car manufacturers finally cahced up to idea, that EVs are not a solution.
I already liked your content (as a car mechatronic freshly out of school you wouldn't believe me how much your videos helped me during my studies), but now I seen a new "side" of you at the end of the video which reminded me of myself. Finally, I glad that I'm not the only one feeling this way. We (humans) should know, most of our problems come from the society that we built. And by developing and consuming more and more of the Earth's resources will not solve the problems or it'll make the situation even worse. Once again I love your videos and you made my day❤️❤️❤️
the problem is that a lot of people dont have the humility to admit hat what we made is wrong , im surprised at how many people dont admit their mistake and play along hoping they culd trick people into thinking wath they did is actualy rigth , by this im refering to many governanents doing stupid things that people started to acept as normal , but also refering to individuals in general
Thank you for addressing this tunnel vision problem with EVs. I’m personally excited by battery technology but it is not a panacea. It’s another tool in the toolbox of resources we have here on earth, batteries are really good for some applications and impractical for others.
No, EVs are indeed a panacea.
I really think it would be better to used the Mild electric that would feed a supercharger from the brakes the way Volvo uses the brakes to charge a battery , you could use the power to spin a supercharger in the valley instead of a belt. The power to accelerate would be balanced by the use of the brakes. Make it so some stored energy to spin a 1.5L supercharger on a 3.5 - 4.0 pushrod V8 in the valley. Acc and braking are balanced.
@@williammeek4078 I just can’t see every apt complex with a charger for each space and how much a landlord would have to raise the rent. The coal gas and nuclear plants that would have to be built.
@@Bbbbad724 You just described a PHEV.
@@Bbbbad724 especially in urban apartment complexes, only level 1 charging would be needed. That would not be expensive to install. At 2 kW per charger, a 100 unit complex would need 200 kW of additional power available. A 100 unit complex uses about 200 kW so yes, improved electric service would be needed, but not a crazy amount.
And no, the idea that RE needs fossil backup is a myth.
Finally! Someone said what i have been screaming about for years! Thank you! Love your channel
This is one of the best videos I’ve seen. Certainly his concluding remarks are quite pertinent, salient and thought provoking. Well done.
Even though this will more than likely not quiet the EV extremists out there, I applaud you for a very well done commentary on the subject and am totally on your side in the viewpoint. Well done sir! 👊👊👊👊👊
Literally everything he said is misleading at best and includes more than a few outright lies.
@@williammeek4078 Found the Elon Musk fanboy
@@williammeek4078 for example?
@@darius6041 found someone unable to deal with reality.
@@Papinak2 time to charge. Most people in America live in single family homes. Most EV drivers around the globe right now are wealthier and likely to have charging at home. EVs charged at home take about 10 seconds a day so waste much less of your time than refueling a gas car.
By the time cheap used EVs are available, home charging will be available at apartments. EVs are MORE convenient than gasoline. Not less.
Do i need to go point by point? The guy is wrong like this for the entire video.
THANK GOD!!! FINALLY, someone speaking the TRUTH about EVs vs. ICEs!! Outstanding and objective analysis, D4A. Very much appreciated. Here in California, we can't even produce enough electricity to keep our HOUSES properly powered! Without SIGNIFICANT new power generation capabilities across the world, ICEs will be with us indefinitely.
You know how much electric and other energy is needed to refine the crude oil to gas? From the well to the pump? Also how much money is being spent for wars and oil subsidies?
Not the truth at all, everything he says is misleading at best, outright lies at worst.
@@riba2233 You know how much electric and other energy is being used to launch ships and satellites into space and how much money is being spent for deep sea research? See, I can do it, too. You didn't address my point that we don't have enough electric power generation ALREADY, let alone if 50 - 100% of all vehicles on the road were to go electric. The fact is, the ENTIRE western US could be covered in the most efficient solar panels made and it wouldn't be enough power generation for California's current demand ALONE! On top of all of this, California hasn't built a new power generation plant in decades. Throw out all the red herrings you like but my point remains. We don't have enough power NOW and will have far, far less should even 25% of California's vehicles go electric.
@@maxcactus7 lol, your analogy is pure rubbish while mine really means something in this context. Since you weren't smart enough to take a hint, I was implying how by converting to ev's lot of energy used for refining oil and wars we use today could go towards ev's. And what is best of all, ev's use around 5 times less energy for the whole cycle so in the end it would benefit us greatly, no to mention removing pollution from the places we actually live in.
This is just plain inaccurate. Engineering explained has a great video explaining why this is just a silly idea to spread and why its totally possible to power evs easily within a decade
This is a gem I'm proud I found. Great information, clear like water, so anyone can understand. Keep it up!
Love it! “If the answer is nothin then STFU” no greater truth has been spoken.
It amazes me that EV people really think buying and producing EVEN MORE cars will solve anything. Keeping older cars running for longer, and thus maybe getting a new car only half as frequent as people currently do, is what can actually make a difference.
Totally my reason for buying an '87 Starlet, definitely not just because I liked it lol 😬
That's actually not true in most cases. Check the Engineering Explained vid on this topic.
@@JacobMueller 1 thing that people always seem to forget about with EVs, though, is the weight and its impact on the roads themselves. A 2 tonne tesla will put way more wear on the road than a 1.3 tonne 'regular' car. Also, older cars are lighter than modern cars, and EVs are even heavier than regular modern cars
@@JacobMueller and the EE video was sponsored by an EV company, hardly unbiased and factual when you cherry pick stats given to you by a company with everything to gain
@@awesomecooly123 I think the EE video was fair as he gave "worst case" scenarios.
@Titanium Rain It was still cherry picked information. It would be nice to actually see 2 experts with different opinions discuss it. But you can't support ICE cars now or you'll lose all your funding.
Giving facts to people who live by emotions and today's "in thing" will never get it. The screaming and name calling will continue... All in all you provided an excellent perspective on electric vehicles and society in general.
Looks like these "emotional people" are easy to automate with GPT-4 or something. I think there are shill bot farms to hire where one human operator can control 10-100 shill bots and thus multiply his output 10-100 times. I think they get hired for "influencing" to supposedly increase someone's profits, product marketing and political influencing.
Excellent comment👍
This is not giving facts, it is simple misinformation.
@@easy08154711 if you watched the video til it's end, you would know that's exactly the point. The information is infact misinterpreted and most likely wrong, because that's how statistics work. The fact giving is not the point of the video, the point of the video is changing our ways and not being short-sighted
Look more closely, his video is misleading right from the start when he talks about how long people ‘wait’ for their batteries to charge. It bears no resemblance to real world experience.
Great video and solid delivery. This mechanical engineer agrees with it all from top to bottom…. Keep up the good work brother!
Grateful for this video. Something to show my "activist" friends who do nothing to help the environment other than spew more corporate crap. I'm rebuilding my 30+ year old Camaro using modern technology to both improve the performance and reduce emissions/improve range. I daily it and plan to for a very long time, but I also care enough about the environment to swap to an aftermarket ECU and rebuild the entire fuel system so I can run E85 (biofuel) and a modern catalytic converter that will reduce emissions while also allowing maximum performance. If you maintain what you have and continuously improve upon what you're given, it'll last a lifetime which reduces the demand for new parts (which increases carbon footprint due to the process of creating those parts). Currently 190k miles going strong on the original engine, no rebuild yet!
Finally somebody that tells people what they need to hear! Often times when you tell these people that their electric cars pollute just as much as gasoline cars in the production process ,they will try to skip the question.THANK YOU
EV's can pollute just as much, but dont necessarily have to - that is the big difference.
lots of people say it. they just get censored and ignored.
Theoretically, EVs are *supposed* to pollute less after a couple years because of the pollution making it. But that will never happen because, as we all know, EV drivers are idiots and can’t drive a car to save their life. These cars will never make it to even a few years. Hydrogen cars are the future.
@@sumdumbmick yea:/
LOL that is absurd nonsense. FYI a slower weaker 30mpg car over 300,000 miles consumes 62,000lbs 28.5 tonnes of Fuel. A 80kwh BEV charging on the Dirty USA Grid mix will consume no where close to that amount of fossil fuels.
Your falsehoods only works at 0 ZERO Miles when they cars are never used.
Awesome installment as usual! Unfortunately there are many unenlightened people that cannot see the big picture when it comes to EVs. Kudos to you for speaking up and going against this wave of popular belief, a breath of fresh air for a change on the topic. Keep doing what you do!
Those same unenlightened people will remain unenlightened if you smack the facts into their face with a shovel. Willful ignorance or denial, you will never change them. Great video as most always!
@@MikeF055 Nature solves this problem in two ways: Make individual life finite and make violating basic facts of life leading to decimation, esp. over multiple generations. You can't do much about it except maybe not disturbing nature doing its job.
👏👏I am speechless, solid vídeo very well presented, as far as I am aware of all the major points are being addressed.
Hats off 👏👏
Thanks for the sign off homie. Love your channel.
This is the best video explaining exactly what is going on in our world today. Politicians can yap and grandstand all they want but in the end it is not rational or constructive thinking. The same goes for environmental protection warriors and associations, no amount of media, protesting, or green hair dye will change the outcome. The problem is as it has been since the beginning of society, the problem is the human being. Humans are consumers, and the Earth is it's consumable.
"no amount of green hair dye" 🤣
@@d4a 😆
green hair dye.....hmmmmmm........is it exactly what I'm thinking😂
Exactly. _Good solutions stand on their own; no censorship, "cancelling", or forced legislation required._
8:44 and 11:30 I love hearing you mock "zero emissions" and this needs to be done more. I remember spending some time on this in college and with the limited resources available during my research, it seemed like you'd be "greener" driving a liquid natural gas civic than an electric car if that was your main concern.
As soon as that exhaust pipe isn't connected to the car, people just assume they have nothing to do with it.
We also already have rolling blackouts because of high power usage during the summer. What happens to the grid capacity when we have everyone charging their cars? The magical electric fairy just makes that irrelevant?
The other point is those that thinks purchasing green electricity change the electricity used to charge their car. It doesn't, contracts don't route electricity in the supply grid.
Assuming that charging is perfectly even, ie no high demand spikes just constant power flow grid capacity would have to DOUBLE if everybody switched to electric. In practice you'll always get demand spikes, for example everybody comes home from work and plugs in - you'll probably need to more than TRIPLE the capacity.
Another way of thinking - an average house in my area has a grid connection rated at around ~20kW of power. An average electric car consumes about 15-25kWh per 100km. That means to add 100km range we need to charge for ~1 hour. If we want a fast charger we need more power. How much ? Well it's simple maths, 500km is 5 times 100km, 5x 25 kwh = 125 kwh. To get that much energy in 30 minutes we need 250kW of power.
My small village has around 1000 people, ~250 households. Most houses have at least 1 car, some have 2. The entire village has 5 pole mounted distribution transformers, rated at ~200kW (or technically kVA, but nevermind) each. On average 50 houses. But 200/50 is only 4 kW you say. Well it's assumed that not everybody will draw full power simultaniously, so they are undersized. But lets get back to the point. Notice the transformers are around the same power as a fast charger. That's right, the power needed for 1 (ONE) fast charger is enough to power 50 houses. If we assume that everybody has a car, they would need to be perfectly distributed in time in order to work. If somebody attempts to fast charge 2 cars simultaniously it would overload the grid.
Tl;DR people have no clue just how much power it would take.
EV or Gas, What Pollutes More? th-cam.com/video/1oVrIHcdxjA/w-d-xo.html
@@HorstSchlaemmer00 Gas for electricity generation is also transported in ships to a significant extent, as is coal. Without refineries I'd love to know how all your plastics are going to exist. OK to pollute elsewhere for EV's but not in your backyard. Exhaust emissions from modern lorries are extremely clean. Normal spin from Robert (who has got a big house with his own solar cells and power wall). How is the Lithium mined and shipped? Not using any diesel powered machines or ships is it?
Your thinking proccess is amazing and this is an amazing video!! Keep it up!
Don’t agree much on the first part, but Absolutely agree on the final!!
The problem is not the motors, the problem are the cars
So well said and well prepared. I was incredibly impressed with this video and especially your presentation and no BS attitude about it. Well done.
"With all the changes, nothing changes
no matter what you're told"
I can't believe I can relate Broken Bells to this video!
Thanks for the explanations mate, focusing so much on vehicle emissions instead of manufacture emissions is another grave mistake some pro-EV/anit-ICE people make!
The biggest reason that EV's aren't around the corner and that ICE isn't dead is that the whole climate narrative is based on very rich people wanting to become even richer and even more powerful through socialism on a scale not even the national socialists of 1930s Europe could have hoped for. These people are already wealthy and connected enough with enough people wanting a slice of their pie that they can make a lie by omission or sample bias seem like the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth and to consistently memory hole any dissenting views.
This however won't be the case for much longer as the bread isn't filling the basket anymore and people are getting angry, the angrier they get, the more the dissenting voices are heard and the more people realise they've been lied to for decades about " global warming " or " climate change ". This is the start of the swing back to small government, cultural tradition and religious, conservatism where people will abandon the new pseudo religions put forth by the government, such as climate change, covid, racism, etc, and adopt traditional cultural values and religions that have shaped society for the better for millennia.
This isn't to say Climate Change isn't a thing but it's most certainly not driven by man, there are very few permanent changes we can make to the earth that aren't nuclear for example. Climate Change is primarily driven by the Sun, the biggest change we are having is that we're releasing a small portion of sequestered Co2 that biomass on earth locked away almost to the point of starving itself. Earth's own cycles are releasing Co2 as well (The co2 release is following temperature, not leading it) and by us doing this, we're increasing the over all capacity for life which has a bunch of beneficial effects such as larger crop yields, larger animals and insects, faster resequestration of biomass hydrocarbon deposits such as oil and gas and over all an actually greener planet.
The population argument as well is another lie told so often it becomes truth. Human population is a self regulating thing if left alone. It goes up and down in waves as space and resources become more or less available. For example, Great Britain averaged out post war somewhere between 25 to 35 million and was on a decline likely set to raise again in the following generations, but just like our current economy and " climate " situation, politicians came along and invented an alternative reality. The UK signed up to a UN migration pact and also around this time officially became a puppet government of DAVOS/WEF and the populay SOARED well over 50 million and climbing to 70 million and more today and this isn't rampant breeding, it's the elephant in the room, immigration.
So in summation, climate change isn't an emergency, EV adoption is all about money and control and ICE will make a big come back when these socialist structures collapse and people need affordable, reliable, high density energy for their transport and home needs.
Love this video! It’s really hard to explain to people the issues with EVS
Thanks for this. It's constantly irritating to see "the IC engine is dead", "EVs are the only vehicles that should be developed" over and over quoted by the same tesla fanboys and supposed environmentalists who don't do their homework. Its' just become an issue of pride and politics in most countries and car enthusiasts over a simple discussion of science and technology. Both have their places in the coming future. Its' scientifically impossible they both won't.
I've driven a Tesla and I must say, it's probably my favorite car for sitting in stop and go traffic. but the steering feels... too easy. there is zero steering feedback and the car weighs almost 2 tons, plus it took me like 30 minutes to figure out how to adjust the damn mirrors. yeah sure, it's fast in a straight line... what else? it feels like it has no personality at all, like a soul-less business man. in going for speed and automation, something was lost along the way. however, most modern cars are like this too. something just doesn't feel quite right about anything made for mass consumerism in the last 10 years. they seem... fragile? restrained? can't think of the word
there was once a golden age for cars, and sad to say but it's over. we will never have that again.
My newest car is from '92, and has ABS, is passively very safe, is fast and is beautiful. I think a new Tesla could also tick off the fast and safe parts, but boy, what a soulless crapheap of ugly design..
What you call the golden age of cars was when they spewed out indiscriminate amounts of NoX, SO2, particulates and made inefficient use of fuel. They are thankfully leaving the roads rapidly. Here in France there are now more diesel cars being scrapped than new ones being bought. Diesel was over 50% of all cars on the roads, this is now falling by over half a million a year. Good riddance!
@@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270 Pretty true, even if today's Euro-6 engines do not have even a fraction of the old emissions.
Teslas are nothing what your comment makes it be like. They are badly made, cheaply put together units. People have also found duct tape in their cars.
@@1andtheOnly ‘people have found duct take in their cars’....please provide evidence of which people, and where they found the duct tape rather than just your say, otherwise your comment is worthless. Let me give you some facts, every Tesla, S, X, Y and 3 when tested by safety authorities in the USA and Europe have found them to be the safest cars in their class...and remember you are up against Mercedes, BMW and Volvo in there. The single casting techniques will make future Teslas even safer...not to mention the fact that Tesla have far and away the best software of any competitor with more collision avoidance technology than their competitors.
You were already top 5 car youtubers for me, but this skyrockets your channel to number 1 in my book. legendary take.
Excellent video..... after having 6 cars and 3 motorcycles. I altered my lifestyle and I use 2 bicycles and one unicycle for my transportation needs. Life is now much simpler and enjoyable. Wow when tourist come to my country, I even give them bicycle tours. My turning point also happened when I read "Energy and Equity" by Ivan Illich. Also I read articles on bicycle commuting and the health benefits of 'bodily' active transportation. Keep up the good work!
So clever, thank you ! For the energy used in our cars, everything depends on the use we have of it !
This man just summed up everything I've been trying to say for the past 2 years
meanwhile in those two years I haven’t pid for gas and have enjoyed 500hp from idle
Make it 10 years
This video will not end well. Come back in 2026.
@@MH-Tesla You cant electrify that fast. The charging infrastructure, the increased load, the battery manufacturing plants wont be available until 2035.
@@vorpalinferno9711 It takes about the same amount of electricity to refine a tank of gasoline as to charge an EV. The infrastructure of adding a few wires to deliver that electricity to cars is already well under way. its vastly more simple than building gas stations, and far fewer are needed as most charging will happen at home.
There's another name for EVs which is EEVs and means "Emissions Elsewhere Vehicles". The average EV produces more emissions than the equivalently massed ICE car during production to the point that some research suggests that they need to be driven about 200K kms to just break even in terms of emissions by which time most will need a new battery (which is the greatest part of these extra emissions)!
I have just 1 thing to add, you could go full green zero emissions on all fronts with nuclear power, vertical closed loop farming and artificial meat and ICUs could run on biofuels that are carbon neutral, only time EVs are consequence free is in a green power grid and if you somehow source your cobalt and lithium in a clean way, so yeah ICUs will probably be here for the next million years or so.
Btw I absolutely love your content and after I subscribed I started to understand the depths of my ignorance on what actually happens in a car, thank you for shedding light there and keep doing what you're doing ❤️
Do you know how much Dino juice it takes to construct and maintain your magical nuclear power plant lol
So… I sold a 9,000 pound diesel truck that got 10 miles per gallon and bought a new Royal Enfield Classic 350. Now I commute to work all week on 2 gallons of cheap gas. Excellent video by the way. Thank you
Loved the whole video! Ive had the exact same perception of the EV movement for years now, but what i loved the most is that you said that statistics is NOT science! You and i are on the same wavelength (we both have thought this through for ourselves and come to the same conclusion!) Thank you!
Spot-on critique, and a sobering reality check for pie-in-the-sky EV evangelists. Mind you, I'm not against switching away from ICE to something better. But the reality is that it won't switch until whatever is new becomes more convenient for the mass consumers.
@@unvaxxeddoomerlife6788 for the vast majority of use cases, BEVs are more convenient.
Finally someone with a good take on the topic. Thank you for making this video, ill link it to people who I can't bother explaining this exact point to myself.
You made some very good points in this video, I live in a similar neighbourhood as you do and the electricity so owning a EV isn't a practical option for me ever even tho the electricity is provided by a Biomas power plant (the largest one in the UK).
Fantastic video overall, especially the ending.
There is a mistake at 00:14:00 which does not squader your overall argument. It is incorrect to predict that the electricity generation will rise by 8.25%. The end-to-end efficiency of the entire fuel cycle has to be simulated to get a correct answer here, but this is where the relative efficiency of an internal combustion engine versus an electric motor would come in for example. Other factors will work for and against here, like the overall efficiency factors of steam generators. But the value you have predicted is not correct and *not* because we hope the new sources of power will renewable (and hence contribute 0%). The C02 costs of making all of the new equipment notwithstanding (as you correctly pointed out).
Also, the switch to electricity from the transport of liquid fuels nets two big benefits that the graph can not show: a reduction in using ICE engines to transport fuel around, and crucially - interoperability from the electric grid. An electric grid is can be the USB-C standard for whatever new or local power generation or renewable technology you need.
Even if everything I have said is false and your statement is true (we swap out all of the electric vehicles for no betterment in C02), this can still be a big win in terms of corporate greed. For too long, the difficulty of producing hydrocarbon fuels resulted centralization and control (and even war, again and again) which has prevented the real cost of pollution from being accounted for. And unlike the electricity grid, there are alternative ways to produce electricity.
One of my favorite videos from you over the years! Awesome to see your progress with editing, writing and your camera presence! This video was much needed for a lot of people I know who consider themselves "smart."
Another well thought out, well articulated and balanced view of a monumentally complicated problem! Great work!
Great video! Amazing argumentation - especially the part with stat-equilibristics and the very end conclusions ! Keep on making this fine job! Congrats !
99% of those commentators don't have driving license :)
and that other 1% are payed trolls :)
The most backwards step by most countries was to ban nuclear energy. Nuclear energy is the only viable source of electricity for the "inevitable EV future".
In the meantime, CNG powered vehicles are an excellent alternative. It's cheaper, much cleaner and readily adaptable to any ICE car. I've been running on CNG for the last 10 years and about 500,000 miles with no problems. The investment is small, the infrastructure needed for the charging is very simple and refueling is fast.
Have you not seen the writing on the wall? You have not put much effort into researching this topic. Look at France. Half their NPP are shut down because of repairs, in the summer they need to be shut down because of cooling problems, the only new NPP they are building should have been finished 2013, now maybe 2023 (Flamanville) and will cost close to 20 billion dollars instead 3.5 or so. Don't get me started on nuclear waste, which is transported to Russia to get buried there, God knows where. Also the "fuel" is getting more expensive as I'm writing and the mining destroys the environment. Nuclear is the most expensive way to generate electricity in the world. And you may have to deal with accidents like Fukushima. Nuclear is dead. The only countries in the world relying on nuclear will be the ones with nuclear warheads, since you kind of need the waste of the NPP.
@@computercrack Tell that to the Netherlands, the Czech Republic, Belgium, Finland, Sweden, Slovakia, Bulgaria, Hungary, Spain and Romania. These are just the EU members which run nuclear power (France excluded), but I am sure they'd just love to be enlightened by you. That said, if France switches off "half their nuclear power plants" that means 27 are still running. You also need to read up on what the hell a CASTOR is and where they go. Nuclear power is far from dead, it is the only feasible way to produce enough electricity for green "projects" without burning fossil fuels and thus increase CO2 output. Mining uranium "destroys the environment", but mining for copper, gold and lithium does not? Yeah, sure.
The "writing on the wall" was probably just put there by people like you with too easy access to spray cans ...
@@computercrack Nuclear has some of the highest upfront costs, but again, we do not have another source of energy that can output the sheer amount of energy in a "clean" fashion. The total combined infrastructure costs to make solar panels, windmills, hydroelectric dams produce enough power to fuel our ridiculous consumption will cost magnitudes more than building enough nuclear plants to do the same. Sure nuclear is by no means environmentally friendly, but neither is manufacturing the billions of solar panels required, or the millions of windmills that kill flying wildlife on genocidal levels while making enough noise to make a straight piped honda cry, or the disruption of aquatic animals using thousands of dams to produce that level of energy. The least costly method to saving the planet is reducing consumption, but good luck convincing anyone to do that. Nuclear seems like the only viable option
@Uli Krosse of course there are countries still running NPP, even Germany has still three. But right now there are only THREE new ones being built in whole Europe! Given the age of most of these things, that number should be probably built per year just to replace the old ones! And not it's not the only way to produce electricity without CO2 emissions. Ever heard of wind an sun? Laughably cheap compared to nuclear, even taking into account battery storage for the electricity. You can think what you want but nuclear is dead, at least in Europe. The IAEA expects relative reduction of 19-62% (2017-2050). Worldwide they expect either a decrease of 10% or an increase of 90%. But given the economic realities it would be absolutely unreal to reach that number.
Call me in 28 years.
@White Chocolate Thunder the next one to know nothing about solar and wind. 1000sqkm of solar panels in the Sahara desert could power all of Europe (look here on TH-cam "Sahara solar panels" ). No need to build nuclear and deal with all the problems. Also for the cost of the Flamanville power plant (20 bill€) France could have built several Gigawatt worth of energy wind and solar, not just 1.6GW. Also these solar and wind farms would be producing electricity for years already. Your claims about dead birds are nonsense, you can look up any serious investigation and will find that this is no problem. Also about the acoustic. Have you ever been to a windmill? You can stand right next to it and talk just normally. Proof: several yt videos showing people exactly doing that.
I wish someone would do a video of what the landscape would look like if you replaced all the conventional powerplants with only wind and solar
A report basically came out a few days ago that painted the grim picture.
Basically to do that, the landmass required right now to do this and supply the current world with the energy required, all renewable with solar and something that worked without variations.
The total landmass was approx the entire EU... All the EU countries demolished and filled with renewable energy sources to power the world.
@@CMDRSweeper So there actually is a bright side then?
@@alanjm1234 Lm-eFfffffinAO!
@@CMDRSweeper Really? do you have a link for that? I'm Australian and we have an abundance of otherwise unusable land and A LOT of sunlight per year, I think it makes sense for some countries, but I can see the drawbacks in places like the Northern parts of the EU. We also don't need a 100% renewables solution, especially right now, but i think we should still be trying to increase our total percentage of energy obtained from renewables over the years ahead.
A physics professor from Oxford University published a paper quantitatively demonstrating there is not enough wind in the world to meet even a tiny fraction of the world's current electrical power needs (without mass electrification of transportation). The paper is based on a very simple understanding of the first law of thermodynamics (i.e. energy is neither created nor destroyed, it simply changes forms) and the formula for kinetic energy (KE = 1/2 M * V2). Combining these two scientific principles, we can calculate mass and velocity of air required to produce sufficient kinetic energy to be converted to electrical energy needed to power the electric grid.
This was awesome and elegantly presented. Bravo
Thank you.
The world needs videos like this.
I've said it for years. Just like 100 of millions of others.
EV's are not the solution nor will it ever be.
Znao sam da si naš "balkanac" haha! Naglasak, faca... Skontao sam sad po tablicama. Gledam ponekad videje, kvalitetan content naravno. Anyway, on to the topic...
I agree with most what you've said here. I've worked at Rimac Automobili (yes, that Rimac) for 4 years. During that time I've had a "sneak peek" in various "behind the scenes" EV stuff. Since 2015 I'm saying that EVs are behind the corner, and that it's closer than most of people think. At the time, there wasn't as nearly as much EVs around as today so it seemed absurd to most of people.
However, as the time goes by, one thing that just doesn't seem to get any progress is the infrastructure. Not even close to pace at which EVs themselves are progressing. I still think it's "around the corner" but I'm afraid what's going to happen is that "they" (governments, lobbies) will forcefully push it without cars and infrastructure maturing enough.
I'm a petrolhead by default. Building and wrenching on engines since I was like 9, 2 strokes, 4 strokes, cars and motorcycles. I can appraciete and enjoy both EVs and ICE for what they are. In ideal scenario, I hope transition will be smooth and uncomplete, keeping both on the roads rather than forcefully ceasing out ICEs. This will be possible if EVs become a "better and practical solution" for "normal folks" and people switch voluntarily. Otherwise, I'm affraid that ICE vehicles will be forced out of the system, one way or another.
I live in Tokyo and even here, the infrastructure is non existent. Not to mention for e-bikes. Last year I've built myself a custom e-bike and I can't stop praising this thing. The torque, acceleration, the silence, the fun, the practicality.... It's a perfect vehicle for Tokyo, feels almost as if I'm using a cheat code (well, technically this kind of bike is illegal as f.ck here but let's not focus on the details :p). I did 4500km on it last year and I did about 3000km this year so far and despite of how awesome it is, I do have to "admit defeat" and say that... Technology just hasn't caught up quite yet. Battery anxiety is always there. I commute on it about 30-50km one way (charge at work, go back) and while it works great for that scenario, problem is when I want to go further away in one go and / or free roam. While I could stretch battery to about 80km, as we all know, full discharge and charge is not good for the battery. That kind of usage will significantly reduce lifespan of the battery and that range still isn't enough for some of the routes that I want to do anyway. I'm using pretty much the biggest cells there is (35E, 3500mAh) so the only way to increase capacity would be to add more cells = more weight = defeats the whole puropose of such bicycle. Not to mention already lack od space. As I've already mentioned, the charging infrastructure is non existent. Yes, most of bicycles here are electric, but those are very low powered bikes with low capacity and most of people just use them for ride to the station,1-2km tops and charge at home. I'm always scanning for power outlets around and people must think I'm looking to plant a bomb or something lol (being foreigner doesn't help either). Never found anything but even if there was option to charge, charging takes waaaay too long to be practical in this scenario. And that's while I'm already charging with maximum current this cell can safely take. I can sneak in McDonalds or family restaurants and charge, but I have to sit for hours then and "nanny" the battery while it's charging. So long way to go even for e-bikes which make way more sense than electric cars with current technology.
Another misconception is that once you get a electric car, you will spend 0 money on charging it. If you actually look, most charging stations are paid, either with subscription or otherwise. Occasional free spots are always taken, even now when there is not that many EVs around. Tesla's V3 supercharger charges with up to 250KW. Do people understand how much power that is?? Who will give you that much power for free? Not to mention in times when everyone will be using EVs and there is no other option. Charging will be nothing cheaper than filling up a decent sized tank I assume. Then special EV electricity taxes or who knows what they will come up with... I also live in a bulding and as shown in the video, there would be absolutely no way for me to charge a electric car at home. In fact, my bicycle would be problem as well if the battery was not removable. Summers are pretty brutal in Tokyo, and even now they are constantly asking people to stop using A/C in peak hours due to power shortage. Can you imagine if everyone also had electric cars??
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I have learned so much from watching your videos on many different subjects from piston speeds and all about engines, to the EV nonsense. I believe there is no answer to the pollution problem, just too many people on Earth, and there is no answer to that problem, but since learning is a thrill for me, I will absorb as much knowledge as I can in the time left on Earth that I have. Thank you.
I always click on your videos as I am confident that the information you are going to present has been heavily researched and fairly presented.
I know a lot of other people are saying the same thing, but I just wanted to say with them that this video is extremely well-made, informative, and useful. Thank you.
As an electrician I can say that a bank of “fast chargers” requires a small electric substation. Drawing up to 120,000 watts per charger, that’s about 100 electric toasters all running at the same time
As an electrician I can say that you are completely wrong.
@@acow9966 care to elaborate?
@@terrellrhodes4256 no
240 volt, 50 amp circuit.
Now, imagine 120 million people all plugging in when they get home from work.
ZAP!
@@TheBandit7613 how dare you accuse me of using a ton of electricity😂
Really well said friend. An Australian auto expert pointed out using statistics, that if we were to use those EV batteries to take houses off the energy grid and charge those homes using solar power where possible, we'd likely reduce our emissions by three times more than driving evs will ever manage. As you rightly pointed out , electric cars are just remote combustion and won't fix anything without cleaning how we make electricity. And thatnot even considering waste from dead solar panels.
Dude your content is so educational ,keep up the good work
First off the comments at the beginning were hilarious, also you seriously couldn’t have said anything better. Thank you! I already liked your page now I love it.
Loved the video. The next hard pill that "electric is the future" people need to swallow is that building new nuclear power plants is the only way forward. The world doesn't have enough available land for wind and solar to replace fossil fuels.
True. Until nuclear fusion becomes a thing, conventional nuclear plants are the only way
Coal is only answer today.. green?
@@SWTH71 conventional nuclear I hope you mean.
@@suserman7775 yes thank you
We do, and i dont want to pull the typical nuclear waste argument, but I will agree with the fact that they are good solution while transitioning
Very nice to see sombody who has understanding that EV are not a replacement for combustion engine equiped cars.
Simply outstanding, I really like all the topics related to technology which you address in your videos, BRAVO!
Great video. Totally agree with the points brought up. No benefits from the EVs other than "moving the problem" to where the decision makers do not see it
I’m sure they see it. They are percentages promised to them from the sales.
I respect you man, I 100% agree and have been saying very similar myself for years. Im not anti-EV, I agree it has its place for certain people. I wouldn't even mind one as a daily driver if I could charge it at home. But its is not the be-all-end-all solution it seems to be being seen as/marketed as. Nobody wants to admit we live in an extremely selfish society and its nice to hear more people speak about that. Theres a lot more green-washing in recent years and I think EVs have been a big part of that.
It’s the stop gap solution we need while we wean the world off of the automobile.
I find it quite unlikely you'll ever 'wean off the automobile from the world', I dont see how EVs are a solution to that either?
It would be great to see how the energy mix has changed since you made this video. In the UK, the energy mix has drastically changed over the last couple of years
wanted to comment about solid state batterys and how they (and well better means to produce electric energy) are necessary steps before a large scale transition to EV's but the last part really convinced me
This guy is clued in. And he's 100% correct.
Even if we meet all the current challenges that you've mentioned, EV's will still only be practical for high population density locations. Which leaves millions of us in rural areas still requiring reliable personal transport. We are a decade away from anything that could replace my current car, and another decade before I could afford one 2nd hand lol.
why do you think they want everyone to move into the city and live in tiny highrise apartments? This is another push to force people to do this and leave their rural life behind unfortunately. We're not heading in a good direction.
It's funny that although EVs will only be practical for high population density locations, we then run into the apartment building parking lot problem.
Actually they really only work for medium-density locations- places where people have houses and garages/driveways. High and low density is out
I live 12 miles from the nearest convenience store in the forest. My electric car works great.
It’ll be difficult to make EVs viable for most people who don’t have single-family homes and their own garages. And that’s not a very environmentally friendly way for most people to live.
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