Top 7 Riding Mistakes New Scooter Riders Make & How to Avoid Them
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Tell us about a time you've fallen and what tips would you give other riders.
Lost 11 days of my life. TBI and I was wearing a helmet, on a bike path, had 2 seizures and no memory of why it happened. Went over handlebars and landed on my eye. Ninebot max not even going top speed, thought i was being safe now $37,000 dollars in debt and I have insurance. I recommend a full face helmet.
@@DGgraphicsNY I'm epileptic so I hope they checked you for that . Sunlight flashing like under trees , etc can set one off . They make plenty of great meds now . I was golfing my first one ..I'd hate to be on my scooter and have one !! You probably went stiff and did some bouncing so glad you're ok now besides the debt, hospital , injuries !! Be safe and get that full face ..maybe some knee and elbow pads too . Take care !!
There was a recent safety ad campaign for motorcyclists here in New Zealand: "respect every ride". It's a good way to sum up giving your full attention to the ride and any hazards on the road well ahead.
Very much applies to scooters as well. I've lost count of the number of close calls I've had that would have been very bad for me if I hadn't already been at the right speed for the situation and paying attention.
For the above reason I never ride any scooter with a tire diameter of less than 12", because falls are much more likely. 2 years from now we probably will have many (affordable) choices among scooters with 13 and 14 inch tires. Those that get hurt now will learn what I learned a few years back. Get well soon!!
Fell because of a ladies bull dog was off leash and decided to chase me and then get scared in darted in front of me bailed and ran it out but man it was sketchy careful when u see dogs off leash safe scooting
This video saved my life. Thank you so much. Hitting pot holes going full speed on a Apollo ghost is not a good thing . I almost flipped forward over the handle bars. Getting lower by bending knees and leaning back to get the back tire on the ground again actually worked. You saved me from crashing.
Wow! Awesome! Thank you for letting us know! -Paul
How are you liking the ghost because I’m thinking of getting one
Im really liking my Apollo Ghost. I replaced the tires to Tuovt 80/65-6 . these tires are wider. And I installed a steering damper. Basically I could ride with no hands on cruise control even while hitting small bumps. The steering damper made the scooter so much more stable. Kool-Stop brake pads KS-DS20 provide better braking. Changed grips to ODI. And I redesigned the rear foot rest from 1/4 aluminum and grip tape on top . No more slipping . The scooter is plenty fast. I push it hard and it scares me in sharp turns going 30 something. The Ghost is a great scooter.
@@Snfjsjsi I replied below your message.
@@Syncere20 Wow, you really love your scooter. That reminds me of that song in Grease. A 2022 version. Seriously, I'm gonna buy one. That's why I'm here. I wan't to know everything I can before I buy. Your information is priceless. Even if I don't yet know what it all means.
I would suggest taking new routes in lower speed modes, in case of any unforeseen potholes or gaps.
Save the faster modes for areas you know well and can avoid the potential issues
Insightful! Thanks for sharing. -Vosk
I would suggest limiting the scooter to 15-20mph. People vastly underestimate how long it takes to stop at higher speeds and that when something goes wrong, how much that time matters. Not just stopping. Reaction time will not be quick enough. About 98% of people do not appreciate the dangers of high speed. This is especially true of experienced riders.
This might have saved me. I went OTB yesterday hitting a curb head on on my first ride out on my new scooter. Full scorpion, a few patches of road rash on my right arm, a sprained left wrist, and a soreness that made it painful to move for much of the next day. I was going full tilt (15 in my case) after dark and even with halfway decent lighting and a headlight I did not see that the curb cut for the wide multi use path I was on only covered about half of the trail crossing a street. If I had shifted down to 9 or 10 mph I might have been able to see it, or at least had more time to react.
Thank you Mr. Bezos
Jeff got dat moolah to become the Millon Dollar Man after all the injures.
This is far and away the best one I've seen. My new scooter is setting in front of me, never been on one. Mistakes I made (injuries) on my ebike taught me to study up first. This video should come with every E-Scooter manual as a preparatory link. I've watched closely and it'll save me some grief. Thanks so much.
Great! Thanks for stopping by. -Vosk
Loved the traction test. Never seen one of those on a scooter before, and had no idea wet leaves give you only 30% of regular traction.
Yeah, it was fun to confirm our gut feel on that one! -Paul
I can verify this from rear wheel drive cars in the fall in rainy climates like Seattle. Wet leaves are like hitting ice!
I got goosebumps watching that traction test on wet leaves and sand. Those are my mortal enemies while riding my motorcycle. It is best to anticipate these obstacles but if caught off guard, stop using the throttle and ride it out.
There's a HalfAsInteresting video about how wet leaves are a massive problem for trains, their massive weight and minuscule contact area means leaves get crushed into sludge that messes with brakes and makes them prone to overshooting stops. The solution to this was *LAZERS* on cleaning trains.
@fay or they don't use the sand system
I don't understand why any driver would open their doors on the bicycle lane, without checking their mirrors.. unless they're there to hurt or kill someone.
omg lol I live in New York City - this happens as a matter of course here. Why do they do it? Same reason people ignore all sorts of road etiquette and safety precautions: selfish baboons
you're giving way too much credit to all humans
2 reasons....
1: They're stupid.
2: They're so arrogant that they think that their time is worth more than yours and will jujst do whatever they want, whenever they want, and expect YOU to work around them.
Every day in London, driving my wagon around, every day.
I've had people cut into the bike lane just so they can drive around someone else and cut them off. It's annoying and rattled me so bad I quit riding my bike for a while. I hated riding because people are so stupid thinking they can do whatever in a car
People do though. When riding past parked cars I always check to see if there is anyone in them. If there is, I'm assuming they ARE going to open the door in front of me, so braking and giving them a wide berth.
Thanks dude. You saved me from having really bad injurues. Especially with the braking technique. 👍
Glad it helped! -Vosk
Got my e scooter yesterday
9:00 No one is going to know that you're actually signalling to turn left/right by lifting your legs, they're going to think that you're doing some silly stunt... lol
Some people might, but any normal and well educated person should know the meaning.
@@proxyhx2075 this is not normalized in any place in the world I can think of so what are you talking about.
Also I what do you mean by “normal and well educated person” when you are talking about the way this single dude say that he *might* signal while on a scooter.
@@robloxianmanz5047 It's not exactly rocket science. If you are driving any kind of vehicle on the road, you should be able to figure out that it "may" mean the guy infront of you is going to turn. If not, you have a really really poor imagination and probably shouldn't be out on the road anyway.
Funny story. I was ridding push bikes with a friend back in the day, he threw his leg out like an idiot in response to seeing his cousin up ahead, he ended up kicking a passing cyclist right off his bike, messed him and his bike right up. I'm not going to lie, it was pretty funny but concerning at the same time :/
exactly. or just get clear, undeniable front and rear indicators that can be understood from a generous distance
The one category you missed is knowing when to bail /do a temporary dismount to walk or run the scooter through a ruff patch -also everyone needs to understand how to drag your foot or hang one leg off the side to counter balance on sketchy turns = this has saved my ass many times
I learned that leg trick for turns naturally recently, I feel so much better taking on tight sidewalks😂
@@happyfairyjerry strange how its just natural instinct to do that
They also forgot to let everyone know to breathe while riding...are you folks serious ? Counter balancing on sketchy turns ?
How about avoiding them altogether, which is the main point of this video ?
You see a pothole or gravel patch in front of you and can't avoid it ? Stop and walk through would be what common sense dictates, and if you're lacking common sense, maybe you should not be in traffic riding a scooter but that is a catch 22 situation now isn't it ?
@@DL101ca Sometimes you see it after you are already too close. Unless you always ride in perfect conditions. Commuting there can be someone else moving I to your way, rubbish on the footpath or less visibility if you commute at night as I do (even with lights) .
Yeah riding it like a supermoto really helps when it gets sketchy, but that requires you to be wearing the right shoes (boots) that won't fly off your foot when they drag.
The bit about stance with car doors I had never thought about. Very Good!
The breaking posture is a really important one. I have an e-scooter that breaks like a regular scooter, with the rear fender. And I remember once I did an emergency breaking where I ended up standing on just the rear fender, with a strong backwards posture like you said, and I sopped very fast. The wheel locked up, but in that position you can control the scooter pretty well, actually.
Rear wheel locking only makes you slide, front wheel locking takes you for a ride 💀
An e scooter that breaks like a regular scooter. Ouch 🤕 don't buy a Scooter that breaks easy
I just got my first scooter and it's an unconventional choice. Haven't fallen yet, but did have to bail and run with it a few steps when I felt it tipping going around a corner with less traction than I thought. No harm to me or the scooter, but I'm glad I took an hour or two of free time to ride it on an empty street and college parking lot, and then around campus. I'm still going to practice a lot more before I start taking it to work.
My tips:
1.) Take your time to get used to the machine in a safe environment and at slow speeds, and build up from there.
2.) Plan your routes ahead of time based on safety, and go for a practice drive at a time with minimal traffic if you can. Slower side streets (in my case near a university where cars are more used to looking out for pedestrians and bikes, and residential neighborhoods off of main roads) may take a little longer but may be safer.
I plan to use my scooter primarily to get to work, so these might not help people who are riding for leisure 🤷♂️
Or for sports, for either way, good advice for beginners
For the stance to adopt when accelerating and especially braking I explain to people that the lower your gravity center is, the harder it is to fall, harder, not impossible, so lower your butt and use your front or back leg as a body break.
Too many people think that it's okay to drive one handed. No it's not, once wabble starts it's really hard to stop it, so keep at all times both hands on the bar AND YOUR THUMBS ARE YOUR BEST FRIENDS! always keep them wrapped around the bar because they are the best hooks that are gonna keep your hands secure on the bar and avoid them to slip when you brake hard.
NEVER put any loose weight on the stem (or your body) like a tote bag full with groceries, this is the easiest way to lose control. A loose weight and or large bag or anything that can be caught in the wind or on a car's side mirror is a danger ⚡⚡⚡. The weight that's shifting when driving is hard to counter and is unpredictable, the scooter can wabble very fast or get pulled in one direction when you lean.
If you have to have a bag, choose a rather thin one that attaches to the stem AND DOESN'T MOVE or a backpack that is tightly attached!
SHUT YOU MOUTH WHEN YOU DRIVE! 🪰🪰🪰🪰🪰🪰🪰🪰🪰🪰 Avoid catching insects with your mouth wide open because you could choke, natural reflex, and lose control. You're driving so just STFU 🤣
Please, don't wear your worn out and slippery shoes when you drive, a solid grip is so important when you put feet on the ground.
Always check your brakes before riding, especially in very cold weather if you can't help but drive, cables sometimes can rupture. So a few movements before riding is a good checking to do.
Don't brake only when you're at the sign stop or whatever obstacle. Release your throttle way before, your braking will be easier, more gentle, less stress on the brakes and you can save battery, some scooters can go free for 50m, so imagine the economy after 20 stops... 1km... Just saying.
I would have a ton but that's what comes to mind :-)
great info RC tks
pls share if U think of more
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I've always been a one handed rider, BUT I just upgraded to a ninebot max. I'll take the advice
You won't have to shut your mouth if you wear a full face motorcycle helmet
@@absolutelyfookinnobody2843 on small electric scooters that do not exceed 25km per hour people don't bother wear a full helmet, I'd be happy to see them wear a good bicycle one that is well tightened.
R. C., thanks so much for your advice. I created a note on my iPhone and pasted them in there to use as a reference.
I have never seen such a value addition video on TH-cam
This is a life saver words can not express how much safety awareness you have given , I just have a new scooter and i was masking such mistakes
Really great first time scooter safety video! I remember years ago when I took the MSF course (motorcycle safety foundation) for my endorsement, its was wild seeing first hand how so many people who had been riding for years poorly handled their machine, even myself. Especially in regards to proper breaking control! My life and I am sure many others over the years have been saved due to just understanding the basics and how to react in emergency situations. Always stay vigilant when on the road, assume no one can see you! Again, thanks for the great video!
Awesome! Thanks for sharing.
Glad YT recommended this to me. I thought riding an e-scooter was as easy as hopping on to it.
I just ordered one...pending arrival. Glad i watched this before it arrived. Thank you for these lessons.
I've only had one crash on my scooter - #7 only 1 hand on the bars. It felt perfectly stable until then, never any problem with both hand, but with only one hand the inherent instability of the steering geometry and small wheels reveals itself. The lesson - keep both hands on the bars at all times when riding, if you need to adjust your helmet visor then stop, adjust, then carry on. If you want to have your hands free then I'd suggest an e-unicycle.
@@TadasTrakumas the stupid thing was riding with a passenger
@@Pigoz10 yeah i don't know what i was thinking lmao
It's amazing how unstable they are with one hand. Any time I need to look at my phone, I either get off and walk or get on the sidewalk and go very slow...
@@markprater1 Yeah, when I had my crash I had no time to do anything - one little bump and I was flying through the air. Boy was I glad that I was wearing safety gear, in fact I had pretty much all of my motorcycle gear on.
Me too , looked at my phone with one hand, small bump and boom! My wound took like a month to heal
ABSOLUTELY! This gentleman is VERY knowledgeable. When you fracture your shoulder, it takes 6 weeks to heal. When you hit your belly, or another part it's another story! SO YES INDEED! Bravo!
This video is definitely good advice!
I had a trip up last December when my scooter hit one of multiple rocks that were scattered on the pavement. I almost broke my sternum and took me out of work for two weeks! My two cents is definitely pay attention to the road you are driving on as well as the traffic.
I was riding a Lime-s on a sidewalk (never ride on sidewalks). Downhill, at full speed, I hit about 22mph. I got slightly off-course and let my front-wheel get off the sidewalk, thinking I would just run off and back on. It had snowed the week before but was well above freezing now and the snow had been melting for days. As soon as my front wheel, carrying my 200 pounds, left the sidewalk it buried itself hub deep in the soggy grass. I went over the handlebars and into the street. No helmet, no gloves, my second time to ride a scooter and it was my 50th b-day. lol....I limped away with just some road rash, a couple of bruised ribs, and a newly found respect for electric scooters. I now ride almost daily and have logged several hundred miles accident-free. I learned many things that day and remember them every time I ride.
Totally agree I learned my lesson after falling now I baby it when I ride I stay off sidewalks and I ride like an old lady the minute I see a bad pothole I slow down and go slow around it
My first time riding ( kick scooter). 3 weeks ago, and I too am 50 yrs old.
Small pot hole= miner whip lash, road rash to half the face, and bruised knees.
I panicked. If I had stepped off, I would have been fine.
I'm glad you came out alive. Sounds like you were doing 20 MPH faster than I was.
It was a present for the 8 year old boy. I still ride it every time he does. I hope you are still doing it as well.
Be safe... I reread your post. You are still riding 😁👍
That happens when you get cocky
You can ride sidewalks but you still need to be safe and some sidewalks are better then others eg. Not all sidewalks are created equal. I've even got away riding in opposite bike lane too but I brake and check for cars. I'm 17 and no crashes
@@eazysmokes3743 absolutely but u have to watch out for people pulling out blind driveways and store fronts I would only go full speed if I was taking a short cut through a empty parking lot of a office building to shave a few minutes off my commute if I was running late I live in a heavy traffic area near a major interstate on and off exit ramps I have to be hyper aware I’m constantly turning my head to avoid surprises
I applied power as I was going off a curb, to keep the deck parallel to the ground and land on both wheels - and this is something I've never had a problem with except once, I wasn't paying as much attention to the power application point and, having misjudged it,
the scooter took off without me and for a brief moment I was looking straight ahead with my front wheel at the height of my eyes. In moving away from me, the scooter took my feet out from under me and I landed on my back. Fortunately, I was wearing a messanger-bag type, soft Saddleback leather briefcase on my back and landed on it more than anything else. Did scrap an elbow, though.
"Don't relax on a scooter. Assume you're always in danger......because you are."
Lol
Thank you for this video! These things are so important for EVERY scooter-rider to know, no matter how fast they go. 😊👍
Gosh! Thank you. I would never have thought. I was thinking about getting an electric scooter for my son for the long walk between bus stop, metro station and university campus in our busy city but I've changed my mind. Thank you for your informative video.
I wish that I saw this video about 2 weeks before I had my accident on my emove cruiser. I would have known to take off my cruise control first, then lean back with my knees bent to try and avoid a pot hole covered in leaves that I hit riding to work on a New York street causing me to fly off injuring my left foot (heel and big toe), and left shoulder. Thank God it was early enough that no cars was driving behind me. Video is a God sent. Thank you.
I really enjoy this one 😂. I already flight over my handlebars. I tried to be courteous to an elderly person using a walker . I shift to the grass area not noticing a hole cover by grass. The old man helped me to stand up !!!! 🤣🙏
Thanks for sharing. It's really helping!
Thanks so much! Appreciated. -Vosk
Great tips here! Thanks!
Thanks
I fell 6/1 😑, busted my knee open, wounds to the left side of my face, broke front tooth, wounds to right hand. Went to the ER. I have the Emove Cruiser and was playing with speed in the river bed of a flood control. Things were going fine until I went in a different direction. Saw a speed bump out of no where. I panicked. Was unconscious for the rest. Was wearing a helmet. I'm a newer rider and learned some lessons the hard way. I got back on the scooter a couple weeks ago. I appreciate this video.
Glad you're able to get back out there. -Paul
I'm thinking about some issues since 2019. Small wheels, short wheelbase, narrow handlebars, tiny braking rotors, no abs, non existing suspension, 2inch wide tyres maybe, in some cases solid pieces of rubber. I think sth is wrong with the world, you should be going 10mph maximum. You can't choose which law of physics affects you. Or can you?
I agree with cruise control. I honestly think it's really badly implemented in pretty much 95% of scooters. It was a part of reason for the accident I had, and since then I absolutely stopped using it. I'd like to have full control over speed at every second.
Exactly its not a car that has a dedicated lane, youll face off against both cars people and even other bikes too
Cruise control is meant for longer streatches without to much noise, people, bikes etc. Turn it off when there are to many disturbances.
Ive never owned scooter before fyi so my question is does cruise control work simulair like in car? I mean does it disconnect when you press the breaks gently or is it persistant to keep throtteling?
@@MrDenyyZ it brakes
On both my scooters, just hit the throttle again to disengage cruise.
Very useful information thank you
I'm temporarily staying near Venice Beach, CA for over a month and decided not to rent a car. I see scooters everywhere and decided to finally use one. After my 1st bumpy, new ride, I decided that there is more to it than just getting on and go. I'm glad to have found this How-To ride a scooter. You did an excellent job and covered all the basics I knew I needed. Thank you. It was extremely helpful!!
when you fall... and you will (with an evil smirk)... me: Shitting my pants already!
Dont say "when u fall, and u will".... we will not fall. I see no reason for it. If u ride unwise and are stupid u might. A normal person using it as a transportation and are careful and know how to ride it dont fall. And if fall, then secure cause they dont put themself in any dangerous situations.
@@ilikeutube8728 brother the situation is next if you don't fall you don't learn at first I rode my bike with 10km per hour I think I didn't have a watch at it then 20 and so on until I got there I went downhill this at the age of 8 without hands and with 50km at time I think I repeat I did not have a watch but I'm sure I was walking at least 40 km with the Scooter the same way at the beginning I did not have such a thing, I have a Scooter for a week and I learned to go with one hand or to go with it on the left or right side and keep my balance
I rode on a Barbie scooter once and ate so much shit it was just 😃
@@ilikeutube8728 i was just repeating his words lok
😂😂😂
Great video. I notice that even when people realize that they are about to go down with their scooter, they still fold on tight. I know it’s easier said than done , but this isn’t a boat and you don’t have to go down with it. Let go and jump off. Be prepared to run as fast as you can then slow down. If the speed is to fast, after you jump off , once your feet hits the floor ,( if it does) prepare to break your fall like in martial arts. Every thing in the video and suggestions in the comments should become second nature to you. And gear up.
So true! I've seen photos of folks on the race track, holding on tight, long after the chance to save the crash is gone. It's good to recognize that once you've passed the point of no return that it's time to follow Ben Kenobi's advice and "let go"! -Paul
Good luck trying to bail with bad knees and lower back! 😞
Geez...i better cancel my order and change it to a kid's e-scooter.
I have never seen a martial artist break a fall at 20mph...at best assume fetal position and roll. Any extended extremities at that point will bend or break unless you're not built like a normal human being.
Seriously, I think that this is THE most important video I have watched on TH-cam in 2021. And it is December 22nd. That says something. THANK YOU!
Thank you so much for this video just got this scooter for commuting to work and this video I’m sure will prove to be a lifesaver
Thank goodness you put in #7. I came unstuck with this one, ended up in hospital for a few days and it took almost 3 months before I could walk unaided. What happened is I hit a soft patch of gravel and because I did not have both hands on, the handle bars twisted round, I came off, my left leg landed on the handle bar and broke my leg up the top near the hip which is worse... At 41 I was told I have a 50/50 chance of needing a hip replacement but if I had been older they would have done it anyway.
I fell with my Zero 9 scooter twice. The first time was equipment failure due to poor handlebar latch design. It is designed to fold and easily and quickly with a simple press of a latch lever at the base of the handlebar. I was riding on a city rough road, after a mile or so of rough rythmatic bumps, the latch unlatched and the handle bar folded toward my chest and the front wheel tilted up off contact with the road surface. I fell forward landed with my right palm first. The pain was not too bad compared to the shock. Since then, I used a metal rod through the hole above the locking pin blocking the latch from unlatching accidentally.
The second time I fell from the Zero 9 was during a ride on a well paved trail with my friends. My scooter was faster than theirs and I while I was looking at the rear view mirror (I installed one) trying to see If they had catched up behind me, suddenly I fell. This time landed on my chin. After my friends catched up with me, took me to an emergency hospital, twelve stiches and hundreds medical fee. I am still looking at my chin scars every morning and shave carefully. Now I wear chin guard with my helmet. The moral of this story is that 1. Focus 100% when you are riding your scooter and at NO circumstance completely took your eyes off the road. 2. There is a Murphy's law, accident happened when you're least prepared and hurt your least protected part of your body. I was wearing helmet, goggles, motorcycle clothing, motorcycle jeans and heavy hiking boots (I was a motorcycle rider). I still don't know how that accident happened and why I didn't landed on my shoulder, my forearm, my hands, my elbow, my forehead or side of my helmet. Why landed on my chin and blood splashed on my goggles?
I hope my post will help some riders.
i bought a step today and you make me realize
thank you!
Answer is easy. You didn't use your brain but cool story bro
thanks so much! This helps me a lot..
Very helpful video. Thank you.
Always wear gloves and other protective gear when riding a any scooter. I suffered chest pain, left arm scrapes and my right knee cap abrasion on a simple fall cause I was freaked out of a car passing on my left near sunset. So after a four months recovery, I wear a day glow wind breaker gloves, a slight bend at knees so my teeth don't require dental repair, let go of the power switch 10 feet before the all cross walks, make a full stop, give the right of way to everyone before moving forward. The full stop also saved me from getting a moving violation cuz police vehicle was parked about 40 feet away waiting for his next victim. THINK SAFTY FIRST, THE FUN WILL FOLLOW. You should always be in control. ENJOY YOUR RIDE! 😉
I didn't, mention, I will be 80 this coming December.
I read a article of a middle aged woman, who suffered serious injuries from a electric scooter. Her face and dental work costs were in the thousands on a short 5 miles an hour crash. Know your limits, start slow. We all have a learning curve to follow.
In the electric unicycle world we're really big on downhill-rated bike helmets (ASTM F1952). They're lighter than motorcycle helmets, have better visibility, and they're intended for speeds faster than 20mph. Would definitely recommend those over motorcycle helmets if you're not going over, say, 40mph. The TSG Pass in particular is designed for street use and is really popular.
Excellent, informative video!
Thank you for these tips. I just bought my grandson a scooter for Christmas and I plan to show this video to his mom and him. While some of these tips were not new to me as a motorcycle rider with the traction, some were new to me and so helpful. Thank you again!
Awesome! Thanks for watching. -Vosk
I own the Apollo Explore scooter, my first high end scooter, and i picked up most of this naturally. Even after 2800 miles on my scoter, i know there are some things to still be learned! These kind of videos are still super helpful! Thank you for sharing these tips!
I'm on my second scooter since 2015. But both I've ridden with seats, and that puts you in a better control position similar to a motorcycle. I've had five falls, no serious injuries ( the worst was my elbow needing some stitches ) . That worst fall was me getting knocked off the scooter as I had the right of way at a crosswalk, the driver of the pickup truck was making a right turn on red and never bothered to look my way while I was passing right in front of him. He knocked me right over and the scooter itself protected me from getting run over. Only one fall I take full responsibility for, and that's when I tried to do a U-turn too quickly on a narrow road. The power wants to push you straight ahead unless done at low speed and you can be using the handlebars to actually turn. A couple other falls were where I was transitioning from grass to sidewalks at slow speeds, not taking it head-on but at an angle and the back wheel caught the lip of the pavement and I went down fairly quick and easy to grass, no harm done. Just the other day I had a fall that's something every scooter rider needs to always be aware of and that's obstacles or holes in the rode. I was coming to a stop sign in a parking lot, so not at speed but next thing I know I was being thrown quickly down to pavement sideways. That was a big surprise, but before I got back up and looked back to see what I'd hit I already knew what happened. You don't normally see potholes here in Florida but it was a good deep one. I was lucky to just get away with soreness and a little scraped elbow, but if I'd have hit that sucker at speed it could have been serious! My advice as an older person and fairly experienced rider ( one who in his former life almost died on a motorcycle because of mechanical failure causing a wobble and a long slide down I -95 ) always ride like your life depends on it, they are not toys. And worse than motorcycles even, be extra defensive because you see cars coming out of driveways and things a lot better than they see you.
I ain’t readin all that
@@Tralblzr LOL ...yeah, I was a bit too wordy
good lookinf out, I might not have considered hitting grass to pavement transition like a motorcycle on railroad tracks
thanks im older too and can't afford a wipeout
Thank you! that was very informational!
Thanks for the kind words
-Vosk
Thanks for sharing this video i now have the idea how to practice riding my scooter..
I learnt half of this mistake with a kick scooter......Cant wait to get one
I recently purchased my first scooter, a KS5 pro which will come in next week from Amazon and let me say watching this video really hit the nail on vital points.
I've crashed my crotch rocket years back on turning corner in a pile of raked leaves so I needed to know what's the right way and wrong way to handle scooters. This video is a real eye opener on the types of gravel terrains and the small tires needs my full attention to keep scooter balance. I love the positions you taught me on the proper stance when mounting the bike with slightly bent knees and why it's so important to have right foot forward for so many important reasons.
Your video is top notch as you went over with the clips on what happens when you do these dangerous flaws and mistakes but most importantly how to prevent them. Even though your video is only about 10 minutes long but it's life changing!
Thank you so much for this review!
Thanks for this info
Any time! Thanks for watching. -Vosk
Very helpful! Thank you!
Thanks for the kind words.
-Vosk
Full Face Helmet Always….it’s never when you expect to need it.
Absolutely
Yep, always better to over compensate in the helmet department...
Yeah, There are scooters everywhere where I live in Queens NYC, and it's crazy to see how many people don't wear a helmet at all.
@@nelsonparra3797 I'm guilty. But i do it when I'm just cruising in the bike lanes in a slow and controlled manner. I can't really ride fast with lots of cyclists and other slower scooters in my way. It's just a leisure cruise and I've been scooting for 4k+ miles now so I'm pretty confident. Now, if I'm going in the streets with cars and looking to ride fast/aggressive, i wear 1 of many helmets! I see individuals without helmets in the streets with cars riding super fast and it's only a matter of time till an unfortunate accident happens to them.
Hey Nelson, they're just letting you know they have nothing worth protecting above their shoulders! ;)
I got used to my Segway ES2's Cruise Control not being audible in a loud street on day one. So I always. ALWAYS. Release the throttle then immediately press and release it to disable it in case it's turned on. It's not ideal but I got used to it just to be safe.
Also I tend to indicate turns with my head, because one thing no one notices about scooter turning lights. You are SO small, most cars just see a blinking light and don't have any large enough reference of whether that is left or right
Thank you it's a really big help
Thank you so much for this video. ❤️
Incredibly insightful. You can tell this guy has put a LOT of time on these machines.
Also: Fall riding will teach you about them wet leaves QUICK. Watch out!
Excellent safety tips. I've ridden an electric scooter for months and have been making some of these mistakes. Now I know better! Much appreciated.
Thankyou very much it really work
Great information, thank you for sharing 👍👍👍
You guys are definitely the best review/ guide team i've seen so far. Keep it up guys, much love!
Awesome video Chuck! I've been riding for a year and this video really helped me to see how to improve my riding style. Thanks.
Very nice video, all scooter companies should have these kind of safety video mandatory for their riders.
Awesome! Thanks for the kind words.
Great video. Thanks. 🙂
Thanks for watching!
Oh, and braking. In my riding (mostly gravel and dirt roads) I've found that i will start with back brake first and be pretty aggressive and then feather in the front. It's not quite like a motorcycle where front braking is better, but the lean back as shown in the video and back braking first and then front brake feathered in has really shortened my braking without sliding in the dirt and gravel. Great channel and videos!
Good idea putting out a leg instead of an arm to signal. I never thought of that!
Thank you! That's one from back when I raced motorcycles. We would use our legs to signal that we were exiting the race track, since we didn't have turn signals an often didn't want to take our hands off of the bars at speed. -Paul
I’ve had motorcycles for most of my life. I’m not so sure a car driver would understand what you mean by pointing with your leg…unless you are really athletic like a dancer and able to ride with one leg 90 degrees up! I’m afraid lifting a leg would probably by the car driver be considered as just showing off or stretching. Still, that’s better than falling in front of a car trying to point with your arm. Oh well, just pondering. I only own other kinds of PEW:s, would love to try out an electric scooter though. I love the vids on this channel, they seem very professional and friendly at the same time. One problem I have though is that in some reviews there are links, but they point to like Amazon and then there isn’t any scooter with the same brand name as in the review. Makes it hard to know if you get what you just reviewed.
I have a helmet with signals that I activate with a remote on my handle! ;)
@@kenspaceman3938 true...
@@loolox3823 what happens when you turn your head to check for traffic and now the signals aren't visible to some drivers, say oncoming or traffic in front of you ?
thanks very useful
Thanks alot for the Tips
Excellent video. As an intermediate rider, there was definitely a few things I learned from this. Keep up the great work guys.
keep up the great videos Chuck (et al). Always wear your gear! Skaters shorts (padding on the hips) have saved me from serious damage and hard plastic elbow/knee pads.
Just bought an electric scooter....glad i watched this......super glad i watched this.
Absolutely useful info! Thank you!
Thanks for the kind words.
-Vosk
You forgot the most important one. Wear protective gear or a suit. Road rash is the worst pain and takes super long to heal. After being hit by a car and sliding on asphalt in a tank top and shorts, let's just say my knees, elbows, forearm, hips, shoulder and even part of my foot is all missing skin months after. I was on a Nanrobot D6+ doing 60 kph. The reason why I didn't wear a protective suit was because it was TOO hot outside but I regret it now. Would have Rathered some sweat and body odor instead lol
Good point. I actually had to go watch the video again to see if we really failed to address that. We really should have at least mentioned it when we were talking about helmets. Me, I wear my full riding suits at all times when I'm testing, but it has saved me more than once!
We are working on more content like this, and gear definitely deserves more attention. -Paul
Great video. Thank you. My first "fall" was when I took a turn too sharp for the speed I was going and my scooter went into wobbles. Had to jump off to keep from hitting the ground.
Very useful tips! Thanks!
Thanks so much! -Voss
Very helpful tips, thanks!
Thanks for the kind words
-Vosk
Thanks for the vid! Ride goofy or regular depending on what is natural and comfortable (see sk8 vids). Once you're comfortable can diversify stances
Brilliant! Great advice and exactly what I’ve learned myself. I’m in the UK and of course e-scooters are illegal here. There are campaigns to make them legal but I think some training should be mandatory, third party insurance etc. I love the idea of making turn signals with the legs! Why has this never been suggested before? Other road users of course will need to be educated to look out for this but it’s a brilliant idea. Well done for this video!
People do it on motorcycles all the time to signal.
As someone that has been riding scooters for a couple of years now and I've got a motorcycle licence and done a
defensive motorcycle riding course I was surprised how many good suggestions were made in this video.
In fact I only watched this video because I forgot to turn off YT autoplay. I really liked the using your leg as an indicator.
Very helpful tips man! Spot on!
Thanks so much for the kind words!
Keep up the good work ESG! You are saving people from a trip to the emergency room. Wear good gear it makes a difference!
Great video!!!
I'm new to escooters, but I bought a pretty powerful dual motor version, because the deal was amazing... I'll definitely follow this advice!!!
Where to find deals on scooters?
Thanks for the tips.
A perfect summary of common mistakes! I love it! Sending to my friends also using a scooter
Thanks so much for the kind words!
-Vosk
I've decided to avoid using my scooter when the temperature is at or below 5 degrees Celsius after I had a few close calls with my zero 8 clone on an icy asphalt road one particularly cold morning. The asphalt appeared to be wet only, but it turned out there were spots that had started freezing where the traction on those plastic wheels was basically non existent... I slipped a couple of times on the way to work but I continued on thinking I'd be ok if I took it slow, but on the third time while driving at no more than 10 km/h the scooter completely slipped from under me and I had to catch the fall with my left foot which got severely bruised. Having broken bones before I felt it was close to breaking, but luckily it didn't. I couldn't walk on it for a week after though!
You've had broken bones before and you road a scooter on some icy asphalt You Rock!. I like the fact that you don't let some cold weather stop you I respect that. I know co workers who won''t ride if there's a slight drizzle. My top end is only about 22mph so I'm not going too fast but I also have those terrible solid tires (which I'm changing)
I didn't know they'd be so useless on cold slick streets thanks for the tip. Be safe
That's one of the smartest things I've ever heard anyone say. Good for you. And it's not just ice that is the problem. It's simply that rubber wheels don't have very good traction capacity in the cold, compared with warmer temperatures. It's amazing how many people don't understand that.
Awesome video Team ESG! Very Informative!
Thanks David!
Thank you. I’m new at this. Life saving.
Thanks
Thanks very much for your valuable, life saving recommendations.
Thanks so much for the kind words!
-Vosk
I've been riding stand up scooters since 1985 on the first Goped Sport!!
And im up to 4 falls and only one with injuries.. and i ride all stances!!
So you're saying the key to avoiding falls is to buy the "stand up" kind and avoid the "fall down" ones ? Stance doesn't matter. Who would've thunk it...
Imma try the teabagging stance, will report back .
The tips in this video are very useful for beginners but also for the most experienced of us. I drove over 20k km on my electric scooter on all kinds of terrain and I still had some ugly events. The worst was in August last year when I fractured my right ankle in 3 places. I'm still driving electric scooters today and I'm not going to give up, even with a few metal screws and rods in my ankle :P
How did you got that accident? I'm kinda new and bought a 65kph scooter. Can you please give me tips?
Great stuff!
Good information. Thank you 👍🏼
Thanks so much for the kind words!
My momma says “Just because you can go 30mph doesn’t mean you should go 30mph”, so I just slow down and enjoy the ride. Mom is always right
very important information. thanks!
Thanks so much! Thanks for watching
That was great. Thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it! -Vosk
Remember goofy for you guys in the states and Europe is goofy for us in Australia or Uk as we are on the other side of the road. So we ride left foot forward.
I drive in Germany also left foot forward, cause I need the right one for the foot-actuated-rear-brake (tyre-friction-type, they work, but I´d prefer a hand-actuated one)... ;-)
Good video. Much better than the nami race one
Excellent advice, thank you for your contributions. 🙌😎 excelentes consejos, gracias por tus aportes.
Good tips. Thanks!
No problem! -Vosk