If you're wondering about Voyeurist, I'd either put it at A or bump up LITSOS and put it at B above Disambiguation. Review here: th-cam.com/video/Ye-DaIq3gqg/w-d-xo.html
My ranking would be your entire list flipped upside down with Disambiguation and Define the great line brought up to A tier, Chasing safety brought up to C, and Erase me again in D. Maybe Acts Of Depression in B as well. Cries of the past is one of the greatest pieces of heavy music ever written.
'Define' was totally their defining album, it really was a huge change up that blew me away! The albums that followed I totally enjoy, they really made a mark on metalcore.
LITSOS’s journey throughout the track list felt better to me than DTGL. The drums during the midsection on Emergency Broadcast blew my mind when hearing it for the first time. 2008 was also the first chance I got to see UO in concert. It was incredible. From TOCS on is a solid discography. Love the vid ✌️
S: Lost In The Sound Of Separation; Define The Great Line A: Disambiguation; They're Only Chasing Safety B: The Changing Of Times C: Voyeurist D: Erase Me
Ahaha man I'm an og underoath (1999 - 2002) purist and I knew going in I was going to disagree and i was very right lol. Still really enjoyed the video thought!
100% agree, disambigustion was one of my least favorite and on repeat listens I found it to be some of their most experimental and heaviest territory. And that opener on lost in the sound is untouchable
@@MetalTrenches I think otherwise, your list matches mine. I may switch out TOCS and DTGL, but it probably just depends on which one I listened to last ha
I can't really describe it, but there's something so beautiful about the dynamics and contrasting tones on DTGL that puts it above everything else for me, that and the closer almost makes me tear up
S Tier: Ø (Disambiguation); Define The Great Line A Tier: Lost In The Sound of Separation B Tier: They’re Only Chasing Safety C Tier: Erase Me D Tier: all of the old stuff with Dallas God I could go on and on about how much Ø (Disambiguation) means to me and how fucking insane Daniel’s drumming is on it or how sludgy the guitar tone is. Underoath crafted legitimately crushing songs about addiction and apocalypse all led by easily Spencer’s best ever vocal performance. His vocals go from pained and desperate one moment to guttural and massive the next. Probably a very hot take, but I actually prefer his singing on it to any singing from Aaron on other records (yes I know that’s basically sacrilege lol). It’s a record that feels so much bigger than it probably actually is. Define The Great Line is my second favorite album by the band. All of the songs on this record feel incredibly personal and moving, with there being some sort of amazing hook (be it vocally or instrumentally) in every song. Again, Underoath were able to craft songs that felt way larger than they actually were. LItSoS was my favorite record from the band back when I first heard it, but it’s kind of fallen slightly out of favor with me over the past two or so years. There are still some incredible songs on this album (Emergency Broadcast, Too Bright Too See, A Fault Line, etc etc) but I just don’t think it holds my attention quite like the DTG or Ø do. I think the drum sound on the album is way too overproduced as well. It sounds like Aaron is playing an AK47 more than a drum kit at times lol They’re Only Chasing Safety was actually the record that got me into the band back when I was in high school. This was well after the band had broken up and right before the reunion I believe. I still think this record is a ton of fun, but idk it’s maybe just a little too emo/pop punk for my tastes nowadays. I still like it, but it’s never the Underoath or even post-hardcore record that I reach for first. Erase Me just ain’t it. I was so insanely excited when the band announced it, and I’m with you that some of the songs are great (On My Teeth, It Has To Start Somewhere, I Gave Up, No Frame), but some of the tracks were just massive butt-rock misses for me. I think my biggest issue with Erase Me is the production though; it’s just so paper thin sounding. The guitars are barely even a light buzz and the vocals are all kinds of weird sounding compared to their other stuff. I’ve seen them live twice since this record dropped, and although again I’m not a fan of the softer tracks on the record, they sound drastically better live than on the record which is baffling. Hopefully they’ll go back to Matt Gold for future records. Thank you for coming to my TED talk lmao
I almost fell off my chair seeing Cries of the Past in the D tier, holy fuck man. Its literally one of the best pieces of music ever written. Pure art.
Same.. For the year it was made it was probably the best album of its genre and its time. There was no mention of this album having the melodic black metal keys or the only album with real low vocals on it.
Underoath was a band I always struggled to like despite lots of attempts, until i heard disambiguation and that is an easy favourote. I love the darker more ambient melodies
Digging the Neck of the woods shirt! I met the singer at a skate event several years ago and he randomly gifted me a graphic patch he made. Super nice guy
Really enjoy your channel, but goddamn, to rank "Cries of the Past" that low in D tier? You sir, are out of your fucking mind. Im shocked that you would put it that low especially since you're into Black Metal and Death Metal.
Gonna make this comment before I watch For the longest time, Define the great Line was my favourite When Lost in the sound released, I initially didn’t like it. Over the years that changed. And now it might even be my favourite bit of work from Underoath. Its so damn good
Super similar progression of enjoyment throughout the albums and pretty much where I'd place most of their stuff. Maybe changing of the Times another tier up.
When I first heard under oath (my first song was rapture I believe) and I really couldn’t get into it and didn’t like the screaming, but then I heard down, set, go and absolutely fell in love
Define would def be up there on s tier for me but in general I can stand by this list. I also liked lost more but to each his own! I love getting peoples opinions on underoath. It is so entertaining!
The changes of times is my favorite personally but i do hate those people that just because there favorite album's are not at the top they get so mad over i mean it's the internet people are going to have diffrent opinons it's not the end of the world
I'm very high on all their albums, I really don't think they've made any "bad" albums. You mentioned physical music when speaking about LITSOS, and I'm sure most who watched this also used to experience music that way. And to me UO was one of the best if not the best at arranging an enjoyable album during the 2000s. I'd give them a pass for Erase Me because it was 7-10 years removed from writing and having Aaron back, and for other bands/artists it would be considered a successful album, but not for UO who set the bar very high. I'd be a little different on my rankings but enjoyed your list. I will say TOCS has held up incredibly well, probably more so to me than DTGL and LITSOS, which I think are better albums front to back...but the playback value on TOCS is up there with any album for me. I feel like I need to give Disambiguation a real chance because it came out at a time when I wasn't really feeling the scene, although from memory I do think the drummer was awesome and at times was an upgrade over Aaron. Erase Me is what it is...I wish it was better and I think there's probably 4-5 songs that actually will have long term playback appeal for me (and most) but the majority of the album and the structure of it was just not good. Honestly I wouldn't have even ranked Act of Depression or Cries of the Past, so for me where that falls on the list isn't that important. S - DTGL, TOCS, LITSOS A - none (Voyeruist, maybe S) B - TCOT, Ø C - Erase Me
Maybe there’s something wrong with me, but outside of a few tracks, I’ve never really liked They’re Only Chasing Safety. They’re last 4 albums are either perfect or just shy of perfect IMO. Kind of a hot take, but anybody with me on this?
@@MetalTrenches I will admit, it’s been a good few years since I’ve listened to the full thing. I guess my preference just kinda lies with the heavier sound they got rolling with Define the Great Line. Boy Brushed Red and Dangerous Business are two of my favorite Underoath songs though.
Underøath gets shit for no reason from a particular subset of the metal community, but the amount of classic metalcore albums this band put out is nuts. I’m not a massive fan of Erase Me but I think it’s fun. S: Define The Great Line, Lost In The Sound Of Separation A: They’re Only Chasing Safety, Ø (Disambiguation) B: The Changing Of Times, Erase Me C: Cries Of The Past D: Act Of Depression
Disambiguation is by far my favorite. Kind of grungy, David Davidson was a way more exciting and weird drummer, and I much prefer Spencer as a singer. Aaron has a kind of generic emo band voice.
No one asked but here's my ranking: The Changing of Times - B They're Only Chasing Safety - A Define the Great Line - S Lost In The Sound of Separation - S Disambiguation - A Erase Me - C
I don’t really see how AOD and COTP get lumped in together, honestly, COTP was far more polished and tighter than AOD. COTP was what Corey Steger wanted Underoath to be hahaha, and it was solid. I feel your take on AOD though, AOD sounds like what it is: a bunch of crazy teenagers making their first album. It’s a fun listen, but it can’t touch COTP by any stretch
S: Cries of the past, The changing of times A: Act of Depression B:- C: They're Only Chasing Safety D: Erase Me, Voyeurist, Disambiguation, Lost In The Sound Of Separation; Define The Great Line
If you're wondering about Voyeurist, I'd either put it at A or bump up LITSOS and put it at B above Disambiguation. Review here: th-cam.com/video/Ye-DaIq3gqg/w-d-xo.html
My ranking would be your entire list flipped upside down with Disambiguation and Define the great line brought up to A tier, Chasing safety brought up to C, and Erase me again in D. Maybe Acts Of Depression in B as well. Cries of the past is one of the greatest pieces of heavy music ever written.
define the great line was a game changer. one of the best albums i have ever heard in any genre. it should be in S tier
'Define' was totally their defining album, it really was a huge change up that blew me away! The albums that followed I totally enjoy, they really made a mark on metalcore.
Absolutely
LITSOS’s journey throughout the track list felt better to me than DTGL. The drums during the midsection on Emergency Broadcast blew my mind when hearing it for the first time. 2008 was also the first chance I got to see UO in concert. It was incredible. From TOCS on is a solid discography. Love the vid ✌️
Thanks!
S: Lost In The Sound Of Separation; Define The Great Line
A: Disambiguation; They're Only Chasing Safety
B: The Changing Of Times
C: Voyeurist
D: Erase Me
Where would you put Act of Depression and Cries of the Past?
But I love Cries Of The Past.
wow u put it on tier D?! Thats actually my fav album, Cries of the Past & TCOT :)) But interesting tho 🤩
Ahaha man I'm an og underoath (1999 - 2002) purist and I knew going in I was going to disagree and i was very right lol. Still really enjoyed the video thought!
We all have our favorites
LITSOS and Disambiguation are my favorites of theirs
100% agree, disambigustion was one of my least favorite and on repeat listens I found it to be some of their most experimental and heaviest territory. And that opener on lost in the sound is untouchable
There’s not one bad song on LITSOS.
@@tommartin7035 hard agree
Disambiguation is my favorite. I know that may be a hot take. But I love it
Hey man we all have our favorites
Same!
@@MetalTrenches I think otherwise, your list matches mine. I may switch out TOCS and DTGL, but it probably just depends on which one I listened to last ha
I'm with you Thomas! I loved the overall vibe of that album
SAME!
Great video! From age 17 through 27 my favorite was Chasing Safety and from age 28 through 35 Define is my favorite. Both are so good though!
Both great choices
I can't really describe it, but there's something so beautiful about the dynamics and contrasting tones on DTGL that puts it above everything else for me, that and the closer almost makes me tear up
S Tier: Ø (Disambiguation); Define The Great Line
A Tier: Lost In The Sound of Separation
B Tier: They’re Only Chasing Safety
C Tier: Erase Me
D Tier: all of the old stuff with Dallas
God I could go on and on about how much Ø (Disambiguation) means to me and how fucking insane Daniel’s drumming is on it or how sludgy the guitar tone is. Underoath crafted legitimately crushing songs about addiction and apocalypse all led by easily Spencer’s best ever vocal performance. His vocals go from pained and desperate one moment to guttural and massive the next. Probably a very hot take, but I actually prefer his singing on it to any singing from Aaron on other records (yes I know that’s basically sacrilege lol). It’s a record that feels so much bigger than it probably actually is.
Define The Great Line is my second favorite album by the band. All of the songs on this record feel incredibly personal and moving, with there being some sort of amazing hook (be it vocally or instrumentally) in every song. Again, Underoath were able to craft songs that felt way larger than they actually were.
LItSoS was my favorite record from the band back when I first heard it, but it’s kind of fallen slightly out of favor with me over the past two or so years. There are still some incredible songs on this album (Emergency Broadcast, Too Bright Too See, A Fault Line, etc etc) but I just don’t think it holds my attention quite like the DTG or Ø do. I think the drum sound on the album is way too overproduced as well. It sounds like Aaron is playing an AK47 more than a drum kit at times lol
They’re Only Chasing Safety was actually the record that got me into the band back when I was in high school. This was well after the band had broken up and right before the reunion I believe. I still think this record is a ton of fun, but idk it’s maybe just a little too emo/pop punk for my tastes nowadays. I still like it, but it’s never the Underoath or even post-hardcore record that I reach for first.
Erase Me just ain’t it. I was so insanely excited when the band announced it, and I’m with you that some of the songs are great (On My Teeth, It Has To Start Somewhere, I Gave Up, No Frame), but some of the tracks were just massive butt-rock misses for me. I think my biggest issue with Erase Me is the production though; it’s just so paper thin sounding. The guitars are barely even a light buzz and the vocals are all kinds of weird sounding compared to their other stuff. I’ve seen them live twice since this record dropped, and although again I’m not a fan of the softer tracks on the record, they sound drastically better live than on the record which is baffling. Hopefully they’ll go back to Matt Gold for future records.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk lmao
I almost fell off my chair seeing Cries of the Past in the D tier, holy fuck man. Its literally one of the best pieces of music ever written. Pure art.
Same.. For the year it was made it was probably the best album of its genre and its time. There was no mention of this album having the melodic black metal keys or the only album with real low vocals on it.
Not everyone likes the same stuff. Makes life more interesting.
@Mezzy Mez it is super odd.. Its sort of a blend of blackened melodic death metal and metalcore..
Totally agree. Cries of the past is really good
best thing they ever released by a landslide. amazing songwriting, vocals, drumming, riffs, production, everything is perfect.
i'm never asking you for a review again after ranking Cries of the Past that fucking low.
Hey man. It's all subjective. No need to get upset.
@@MetalTrenches YOU DONT UNDERSTAND
@@jimmybenson3378 dude chill, everyone has a different opinion
@@cile5459 guess I'm gonna have to start putting /s at the end of my replies
@@jimmybenson3378 whatever
Underoath was a band I always struggled to like despite lots of attempts, until i heard disambiguation and that is an easy favourote. I love the darker more ambient melodies
Digging the Neck of the woods shirt! I met the singer at a skate event several years ago and he randomly gifted me a graphic patch he made. Super nice guy
They gifted me this shirt too. I keep hearing such good things about him. Great music too.
My favorites gotta be Changing of Times and Chasing Safety
Really enjoy your channel, but goddamn, to rank "Cries of the Past" that low in D tier? You sir, are out of your fucking mind. Im shocked that you would put it that low especially since you're into Black Metal and Death Metal.
@@austinspitler9177 this is part of why I changed the labels of the tiers in later videos
Gonna make this comment before I watch
For the longest time, Define the great Line was my favourite
When Lost in the sound released, I initially didn’t like it. Over the years that changed. And now it might even be my favourite bit of work from Underoath. Its so damn good
Super similar progression of enjoyment throughout the albums and pretty much where I'd place most of their stuff. Maybe changing of the Times another tier up.
When I first heard under oath (my first song was rapture I believe) and I really couldn’t get into it and didn’t like the screaming, but then I heard down, set, go and absolutely fell in love
Disambiguation still the only record that i love from this band. Daniel destroyed his drums on that one.
Then why are you watching this lol
@@rossmusic25 Because i was still interested, what he will say about the other records.
Unless you went to their shows back in the day when AOD and COTP came out.... you don't truly understand how special those albums are
Define would def be up there on s tier for me but in general I can stand by this list. I also liked lost more but to each his own! I love getting peoples opinions on underoath. It is so entertaining!
Always fun to hear people’s differing opinions
Tier list is on the money tbh I literally feel the same way. I don’t think they can make another album as great as TOCS and that’s ok
The changes of times is my favorite personally but i do hate those people that just because there favorite album's are not at the top they get so mad over i mean it's the internet people are going to have diffrent opinons it's not the end of the world
I'm very high on all their albums, I really don't think they've made any "bad" albums. You mentioned physical music when speaking about LITSOS, and I'm sure most who watched this also used to experience music that way. And to me UO was one of the best if not the best at arranging an enjoyable album during the 2000s. I'd give them a pass for Erase Me because it was 7-10 years removed from writing and having Aaron back, and for other bands/artists it would be considered a successful album, but not for UO who set the bar very high.
I'd be a little different on my rankings but enjoyed your list. I will say TOCS has held up incredibly well, probably more so to me than DTGL and LITSOS, which I think are better albums front to back...but the playback value on TOCS is up there with any album for me. I feel like I need to give Disambiguation a real chance because it came out at a time when I wasn't really feeling the scene, although from memory I do think the drummer was awesome and at times was an upgrade over Aaron. Erase Me is what it is...I wish it was better and I think there's probably 4-5 songs that actually will have long term playback appeal for me (and most) but the majority of the album and the structure of it was just not good.
Honestly I wouldn't have even ranked Act of Depression or Cries of the Past, so for me where that falls on the list isn't that important.
S - DTGL, TOCS, LITSOS
A - none (Voyeruist, maybe S)
B - TCOT, Ø
C - Erase Me
Where would you rank the first two albums, "Act of Depression" and "Cries of the Past"?
Will you do a Death albums tier list? Probably the most difficult tier list because all the albums are so good but for different reasons.
Vocals suck
It is up now
Maybe there’s something wrong with me, but outside of a few tracks, I’ve never really liked They’re Only Chasing Safety. They’re last 4 albums are either perfect or just shy of perfect IMO. Kind of a hot take, but anybody with me on this?
When was the last time you listened?
@@MetalTrenches I will admit, it’s been a good few years since I’ve listened to the full thing. I guess my preference just kinda lies with the heavier sound they got rolling with Define the Great Line. Boy Brushed Red and Dangerous Business are two of my favorite Underoath songs though.
@@theriffnotebook8412 Fair enough but I highly recommend giving it at least one more go
Did you consider doing powerwolf albums ranked please?
I’ve not spent much time with them. Not sure my audience would be that into it
@@MetalTrenches thanks for the answer mate, do how you want, after all it is your channel. Cheers
Only thing I would change is Lost in the Sound being an S tier. That's my favorite UO album.
I seriously believe that their 2 first album are tier S+++
Totally agree with on TOCS and DTGL those are best the UO albums.
🔥🔥🔥
Underøath gets shit for no reason from a particular subset of the metal community, but the amount of classic metalcore albums this band put out is nuts. I’m not a massive fan of Erase Me but I think it’s fun.
S: Define The Great Line, Lost In The Sound Of Separation
A: They’re Only Chasing Safety, Ø (Disambiguation)
B: The Changing Of Times, Erase Me
C: Cries Of The Past
D: Act Of Depression
Good picks
Agree with Act of Depression but COTP is so fucking good!
The only album I like from Underoath is, Ø with the song, In Division
😮😮😮Bruh. It’s time to try a few out again.
@@MetalTrenches Lol. Ok, I'll try. What albums do you recommend firstly?
@@thelastdaybreathinginetern1385 they’re only chasing safety and define the great line
Ok🤘🏽
Disambiguation is by far my favorite. Kind of grungy, David Davidson was a way more exciting and weird drummer, and I much prefer Spencer as a singer. Aaron has a kind of generic emo band voice.
No one asked but here's my ranking:
The Changing of Times - B
They're Only Chasing Safety - A
Define the Great Line - S
Lost In The Sound of Separation - S
Disambiguation - A
Erase Me - C
Seeing lots of LITSOS supporters here
Where would you rank the first two albums, "Act of Depression" and "Cries of the Past"?
Pretty close to my personal ranking...
I don’t really see how AOD and COTP get lumped in together, honestly, COTP was far more polished and tighter than AOD. COTP was what Corey Steger wanted Underoath to be hahaha, and it was solid. I feel your take on AOD though, AOD sounds like what it is: a bunch of crazy teenagers making their first album. It’s a fun listen, but it can’t touch COTP by any stretch
Lost and Define are best imo
S: Cries of the past, The changing of times
A: Act of Depression
B:-
C: They're Only Chasing Safety
D: Erase Me, Voyeurist, Disambiguation, Lost In The Sound Of Separation; Define The Great Line
this is the real ranking
@@saocir thanks mate
Yo bud, you’ve got to check out Capra’s first album. Fire hardcore album with brilliant writing, reminds me I hate Sally.
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unpopular opinion alert. Erase Me is their best album (shortly followed by define the great line).