This Ship Almost Sank!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.พ. 2025
- On Friday, June 7, the Michipicoten departed Two Harbors, Minnesota with Taconite pellets and a crew of 22. Normal trip. Until disaster struck.
The Michipicoten is a 72 year old vessel having been built in 1952. The ship measures 698 feet in length, 70 feet in width and 37 feet in depth with a maximum carrying capacity of 22,000 tons.
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What do you guys think it struck or do you think something else happened to it?
Must've been a Russian Submarine.
@@Wilhelm-Von-Hohenzollern lol
How'd that construction year get past you? It must have been your old age. :D
@@HahnJames lol
Maybe a lost shipwreck?
The structural integrity of a 70 yr old vessel is something to think about after hauling millions of tons of products. Glad to hear all the crew were safe as well as the ship so far. Maybe time for a new one. Be safe
Maybe similar to jets, fatigue is a issue regardless of the structure
It’s sucks. she’s a beautiful ship
Thank goodness for the Edwin H Gott being close by and coming to the scene. This could have been the first major tragedy since the Fitz sank in 1975.
Basically their pumps stayed ahead of the flooding. That's what apparently saved the vessel.
The keel and or hull looks fractured if one is to judge by pictures taken at the scene. I understand the water depth in that area is app 700'. Hard to believe it hit something. Stress FX seems more probable.
I heard from a very reliable source in the last hour that the ship did not strike anything. Another fleet ship will pick up her cargo in the next several days. She will most likely then be repaired.
Off to Frasier shipyards!
Name the source
not sure hitting an object in the water would cause the ship to develop a huge wrinkle a third of the way along the hull something important gave out and i think your right about the hull failure
What part of the video is this “wrinkle” noticeable in. At 0:36 (which shows an up close view of the listing ship) I can’t see any such wrinkle.
Thank u for info. Tragedy averted. Thanks to all rescuers. Thankful all r safe. Bless all
Your welcome
The route is very deep water, not convinced they hit anything, my thought is keel structure failure due to age and weight. But that is just my opinion. We can wait for the report
Sounds like she had a very good Captain and crew to get her into safe port.Big thank you to the massive GOTT helping her out and all the Coast Guard personal.And thank the God this was not November!
A good captain would never have set sail in this piece of trash, putting other sailors lives in danger.
Well The Captain is my first cousin so yeah they got a pretty good Captain
Excellent report, thank you!!😊😊😊😊
Your welcome!
I'm just glad it and the crew made it in. I have a soft spot for the old things. They have earned our respect. I'm hoping they can dry dock her and find out what's going on with the condition of it. There's always something to learn from situations like this.
Been a hard working ship. I hope they fix her up.
Great work man! Glad all are OK!
Thanks! I am too, could have been so much worse...
I worked on the ship in 1979 my first job as a Deck hand.
Wow! That's cool! What was it like?
Ship did not have a boom on it.
Friends of mine were on it leave Escanaba, MI. And they went in to bad weather and cracked parts of the ship and they ran cables from the wenches on the the bits to hold the ship together. Cracked long some hatches back to starboard side to the Cheif room.
Thank you Connor for this great vid and yes for me im thinking it was a stress factor in her hull considering her age,it wud be a shame to lose another forward end pilothouse ship, i had the pleasure of touring on this classic beauty after her Christening in Sarnia Ontario back in 2003,that is something i will never forget.
Your welcome!
Great job Connor!! Thanks for sharing this!
Thanks! You bet!
One of the old classic freighters.
Thanks for explaining this sad event.
Your welcome. Glad everyone is okay.
72 years old….that pretty much says everything
Good thing it was decent weather. if this had ocurred during a storm it would have been tragic.
We do not need another Edmund Fitzgerald.
@@MackeyBigBoy4014nor do bone heads need to bring up the Fitzgerald all the bloody time.
Even if the pumps are keeping up, the taconite pellets absorb 5-10% of their weight in water. Also, I wonder if this freighter was lengthened at one time.
It was.
All the ships built in its time period were lengthened at one point.
In 1978 we left Thunder Bay downbound on a straight decker built in 1905. During the voyage we developed a list and water was found in one of the side tanks. Several of those old Lakers broke their backs in big storms a la Edmund Fitzgerald.
Thanks for the report.
You bet
Plenty of armchair experts commenting already. I'll just wait for the investigation report.
Do you realize the creator pinned a comment that says “what do you think happened?” 😂.
@@SmushyMcMushy Yes. That was my response. I don't jump off a bridge blindly because someone invites me to do so.
Could be a white wash.
You are going to wait until our government does an investigation! PS: I've noticed more and more of you voices of reason just so you can keep the conspiracy theories down, you stink of an FBI or CIA shill!!!...
I doubt you’ll remember by then
Any guess how many times in all those years she's been twisted, bent and flexed in all directions? Maybe the pop of some steel breaking resembles an underwater strike??? They'll figure it out.
Glad you're back!
The captain ordered a rum&coke on the rocks and the crew thought he said run the boat on the rocks !
Woot! A Connor Tenold video! You provided some pretty comprehensive information here and you did some good editing. If I were to guess what happened to the old girl, I would say that the Chinese were experimenting with satellite mounted particle beam technology as I know nothing of ship construction or maintenance.
I have a list since I acquired a broken leg on Feb. 23rd. It's improving, though. It's not as bad as when I first started putting weight on it again in mid May.
I am eagerly awaiting your next video!
I'm glad to hear it's improving! Anything else new?
@@ConnorTenold I have a new titanium plate and seven titanium screws at the top of my tibia where it was all reassembled. The scar from the surgery can hardly be seen. Other than that, the judo organization that I belong to has told me that it's time for me to promote to 4th degree black belt. I'll have to start working on that as soon as my left leg is at 100%. I did spend more than 8 weeks not using that leg. I still have some work to do getting it back to or close to normal. It was a very ugly break, after all. In terms of music, I play the soprano saxophone and guitar. I learned "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" on the sax a couple of days ago. It sounds pretty sweet. You can find renditions of that song on the soprano sax on YT. Other than that, not much is new here. How about with you? If I'm right, you are graduating high school very soon if, it hasn't already happened. Of course, I could be off the mark. The other day, I was thinking about what you said about social media on your other channel. The word, "balance" kept popping into my head. Self-control and controlling social media use as opposed to allowing it to control you is the key, I guess. Any thoughts? I also pray for you every so often. I hopeyou don't mind. Oh my gosh! This got long. Sorry!
@@HahnJames Wow, 4th degree Black belt! That will be an accomplishment. I do love the saxaphone. Such a lovely instrument.
For me I moved to a boarding school mid school year. Its a private christian academy. So I enjoyed that. I'm also working on an album.
With Social Media it's all about how much control you let it have. Once your aware of it's dishonesty and tactics you can resist it. Social Media is also a great tool to spread the word of God to the world. Considering that, use Social Media. Don't be used by it.
Don't mind at all, I often pray for everyone I know too. People forget the power of pray much to often.
@@ConnorTenold Was/is the christian academy far from home? I remember going to Northern Michigan University. It's in Marquette. I loved it up there. My residence hall was only a ten minute walk from Lake Superior. That was fun. It was an 8 1/2 hour drive from home, though, in good weather. You and I know how winters can be along the shores of Lake Superior. I spent 2 1/2 years there and then transferred to Central Michigan. That was only 2 1/2 hours away from home. Album? Tell me more. What instrument do you play? Do you sing? Fortunately, when I'm playing the saxophone, I can't sing. Nobody would want to hear that. LOl. Yeah, I have a Facebook account but, I only sign in to it about 3 times a week just to see what's up with people on my friends list. I only spend about 15 minutes there each time. I refuse to get a Tik Tok account. I think that Tik Tok is evil. When it comes to TH-cam, I probably spend too much time signed in. I'm pretty picky about the TH-camrs that I subscribe too. I look for educational videos but, you have to be careful with those. You have to be very discerning and kind of look into the TH-camr's history a bit. I like to watch videos about history and science. I also look for videos of people playing the saxophone or piano. There are a few channels that give saxophone lessons, too. I'm looking to improve any way I can. Let me know when you've finished your album. I'd like to hear it.
@@HahnJames It is a Christian academy and quite far from home but I have some relatives really close which is nice.
I do guitar, some synthesizers and sing on the songs. I just use the guitar as a bass and program a drum beat for it. Although, i'm very picky about my drum beats because I want it to match the emotion of the song and not just make people want to do things with their hips. There are plenty of those songs out there and I just want to write meaningful music that makes people think and helps them.
It is really sad that a lot of "educational channels" are not actually educational. The more and more time passes the more and more I go to books for education. In fact education is at a really bad spot right now in general. Especially for public schools. That's one of the reasons I went to a private school. I was able to actually learn things.
I know that with learning an instrument the best way is to get lessons in person. You can certainly learn stuff from videos but getting a teacher in person where you can go and have lessons every week really improves you at a faster rate.
There is only one thing we all want to know: What did the Michipicoten hit?
Superior is a beautiful lake but it not only never gives up its dead, it like to collect them. There are wrecks all over the lake.
Wow are you f ing serious? How the bloody hell scout she hit anything in 600 plus feet of water. She was 35 miles away from the nearest land.
@@LokiOdinson-fz8ps The Michipicoten said they hit something. 600ft of water, I damn well want to know what it was.
Boat that old, has to be hull failure or a stress fracture. Glad everyone is ok.
There are still plenty of ships that age and older on the lakes that operate with no difficulties. Everyone seems to forget, or ignore, the fact that winter layup was only a couple months ago and it was inspected and deemed fit for service
Hmmm... She does look a little bent just aft of the bow island.
That is the old way it was desinged.
You mean when the stern slopes upward? That’s how it was built. The design looks good and the curve helps strengthen the vessel
They passed right over the Sovereign on marine tracker, a grain sloop that foundered 12 mi off of pie island. Wrecks never been dove, sonar'd or found. Believed to be in 400-300ft of water. Wonder if they whacked it but no way.
Only way they'd hit it is perhaps its on a random shallow reef? Just a funny thought lol.
I'm going with hull failure. Probably poor maintenance and fatigue that was too costly to overcome and working her like she is a young chick finally broke her back.
I’m going with waiting til the people who actually know what they’re talking about releases the report.
Thanks! Love your videos
Your welcome! And thanks!
Looking at the pictures it looks like the line of the hull changes just after the forward portion. The old photos show a straight line aft, the new photos seem to show a bend or kink in the hull. So hull failure sounds like a possibility. If the hull failed, I would assume it could make a sound as if the ship struck something.
I’ve seen this ship in person and the bow and stern sections slope up away from the deck. That’s how it was designed and built. Hull failure can’t be ruled out, but the slopes/kinks were how it was designed. She looks no different from pictures I have of her from last summer, minus the obvious list.
@@falcondragonslayer - She was never a beauty.
I'd watched her depart Duluth about 4 weeks ago and I remember thinking that she looks pretty beat up. I'd suspect hull failure over submerged impact, but lets let the Coast Guard and other authorities do their job first. Looks like she may need to be scrapped as she's had a decent long life and is now so beat up that sinking is probably just a matter of time regardless of what happened here.
She does look a little worse for wear just in general.
It looks like she should’ve been scrapped a couple decades ago
News reports I saw mentioned the possibility of hull failure. When I saw how run down she looks, I found that possibility quite believable. Who knows what the ultimate finding will be however.
This is what all vessels that go through the locks at Sault Ste Marie look like, to some degree. The hulls scrape against the sides of the locks and wear the paint off and mildly dents the plates. Doesn’t mean the hull’s integrity is compromised.
@@falcondragonslayer And yet they reported damage while in deep water! As I've mentioned before, a tree, even a VERY large tree, if it isn't rooted to the ground would just be pushed aside by the bow and with very little damage if at all! A floating log, no matter how big or even submerged, will simply be pushed out of the way.
You notice the Canadian ships could use some TLC? The American 70 y/o ships like the Anderson are still rolling hard
Informed information, thanks
Your welcome
Great job Connor!
Thanks Dad!
doubt she hit anything more likely a hull failure ,one or more plates failed and she 'sprung" a leak
old hull undetected corrosion
my guess as well and in that regard shame on USCG inspections that are supposed to prevent this. Pretty hard to believe there's a shallow spot they now found ... in the lake ... in the ocean one might suspect a wayward container and while this is possible the ship makes no mention of such a thing and they seldom disappear immediately
@@brianokeefe7781 Someone running a sub submerged in the lake? Smuggling maple syrup south?
Seriously, a floating container is a possibility, but would it have enough mass to spring a hull plate? A ship that size to get nudged enough to feel it would have to hit something more than a container. So, a hovering wreck, a sub or a shallow spot are the possibilities. And if nothing else is reported missing, would be a remote possibility.
@@bobmazzi7435 Unlikely to be a container because container shipping is a rare in Lake Superior
All ships in commerce in the world are subject to classification for seaworthiness by American Bureau of Shipping, Det Norske Veritas, Lloyds Registry etc. They do non- destructive testing every year, gauging hull plates, frames and stiffeners. Every 5 years they are to be dry docked. Pull the GPS position data. She hit the bottom.
@@sandysmithvideos228 It's about 500' to 600' feet deep where the Michipicoten started taking on water.
Imagine if the ships could talk.
Like, the Edwin H. Gott is like: “Are You Ok?”
And the Michipicoten is like: “Of Course I am not Ok.”
lol
Thank God it didn't sink that would have been a disaster nobody lost there lifes that's the most important thing 🙏
I'm glad this didn't take place in a Lake Superior storm, or this very well would have had an "Edmund Fitzgerald" incident.
Great Video Connor! - Vishwa
Thanks! How are things for ya? Anything new?
@@ConnorTenold Things are good, Im staying in Boston at school for summer classes. so just grinding away and hanging out w/friends. How are you? Anything new?
@@_flashfire_ Nice! What will your major be? I actually ended up going to a boarding school mid January, and now I'm working on an album.
What the hull?
If it is just hull failure do to age, what does that say about the Coast Guard inspection process.
Either they need to have more inspections or it is not up to the standard it should be.
@@ConnorTenold If either is the case it can't be acquitted.
@@bob_atwestmi_fl_us7812 Agreed and nice word! I appreciate a knowledge of words. It seems to be something that society, for the most part, lacks.
latest is she failed inspection,will they repair more ,or give up and scrap her?
I've looked all over and can't find anything except a TH-cam video on it failing inspection so I am doubting that's true. We'll see. Even if it did fail inspection the Michipicoten is an easy money grabber for Lower Lakes Towing as it is fast and has a quick trade route between Duluth and Algoma Steel so they'd likely still repair it.
There is no reason to speculate re: the cause of damage which will be instantly obvious in drydock. Modern spectrometry can tell you the material of an object that strikes another object. We had residue on damaged jet engine fan blades analyzed back in the 1990s and only a very small sample is needed. For example if a vessel struck a container it would abrade the Corten steel.
She was listing when she left Duluth. Watch the video.
Clearly, it was Ogopogo, trying to hitch a ride back to the Okanagan Lake.
OGOPOGO MENTIONED RAHHHH 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥
Too much drama. It was daylight, June, good weather and not that far from shore. The ship got to Thunder Bay under her own power.
There hasn’t been a major disaster on the Great Lakes in almost 50 years (not since the Fitz went down) so a laker coming so close to sinking would understandably result in a lot of attention
And if this took place in a Lake Superior storm, we could have had another "Edmund Fitzgerald" incident.
It is within the structure itself.
She's tired and weak.
She's more than served her time.
Time to let the ole girl rest.
Only 2 things it could have bumped into. A floating shipping container or a large tree trunk. On a ship that big; would they have even noticed?
Probably hull structural failure due to fatigue. Every ship of that design and age should be inspected for cracks in the same area.
Old and tired so broke her back after carrying iron ore most of her life
Is this the same shipping line that owns Cuyahoga?..if so they are having a rough year.
really, why is that
@@jayltd.7030 Cuyahoga had a major fire not that long ago while undergoing dockyard maintenance.
Yes it is the same company
@@dirtdevil70 Ok. I grew up with Bravener but havent payed attention to the company.thx
72 years old, poor girl was just trying to retire, lol
Honest to God this thing is honestly making it like it was the Titanic disaster
With radar and satellite tracking you would know if there's a decent sized vessel near you. Can't wait to hear the cause.
If not for the courage of the fearless crew the Michipicoten would be lost
70 Years Old? That ship is a death trap. Normally ships have a 30 to 40 year life. The owners are obviously tight ass"d money savers.
Freshwater vessels can go a lot longer than salties.
Was clipped by a USO speeding past.
Clearly the Mich hit a secret, underwater UFO base . 😉
I hate when that happens. Freaking UFOS
I say bigfoot played a part in this. Somehow.
@@williamstamper442 Bigfoot and Aliens are known accomplices
Broke her back
other news site say its still afloat
Almost means didn't
Likely hit a large alien🛸USO!
Edmund Fitzgerald springs to mind
Yeah, good thing it didn't become the next big shipwreck....
I use the Metric System so for me the Michipicoten is 210 metres long. But something I noticed with your video is that it's 2 minutes and 10 seconds. Coincidence?
Would love to say that's intentional but it's just a coincidence. That's hilarious!
It took 14 engineers and approximately 7 months to get those figures to match 😅
Jack don't leave me!!
"We're holding our own, going along like an old shoe". - Captain McSorley.
It had to had hit a wild smelt :)
Did she shoal out on rocks? I guess they knew what they were doing in 1952 - 72 years old and still steaming.
She was in deep water when the mayday went out. 35 miles away from the nearest land.
Is that a well maintained ship? Doesn't look like it...the poor thing looks neglected.
If by neglected you mean they don’t shell out enormous amounts of money to redo the paint every time it gets scratched on the locks, then sure, it’s neglected.
But most of the “damage” is just surface scrapes and isn’t a notable sign of neglectful maintenance
it could use some paint & primer
All ships that go through locks can. This one has seen it’s fair share of trips through Sault St. Marie. It would be far too expensive and wasteful for the company to unnecessarily replace the paint job every year though, cause it’ll just get scraped up again
In service LONG past her prime . Go talk with ship yard workers about hull integrity
Partly submerged steel shipping container that someone "forgot" to report?
@@pgssideropposite of holding water
Not much container hauling on the Lakes.
@@alexandersinclair9006 No, not much. They come up on the occasional salty.
It's an old ship and there is a thing call metal fatigue....over the years you have a lot of flexing with all of the weight this ship and other ships carry. One has to come to a decision sooner or later that this ship must be retired!!!!
When did this happen? Was it thirty to forty years ago? This is a really old fashioned vessel. You won’t find these antiques in any other part of the world including Africa,
It happened yesterday, June 8. 2024. And you will find some of these older vessels on the Great Lakes.
That’s because these are lake freighters, not ocean-going vessels. The freshwater of the Great Lakes is a lot easier on the hulls and therefore allow lake freighters to have far longer lifespans than ocean-going ships.
Looks old and worn out. If it hit something, the other thing must have sunk quickly. If not and it is structural failure it should be wrote off and scrapped before lives are lost.
The surface appearance is mainly from the vessel bumping and scraping against the sides of the locks. Stop trying to act like you know what you’re talking about and leave the diagnosis to the experts who actually inspect the ship
Perfect
Russians teleported a submarine to start WWIII. no doubt it's first mission was to sink an aircraft carrier but they got a little confused.
lol
Maybe they thought the Wolverine and Sable were still afloat?
I totally agree 👍🏿..
Well there is a Russian war fleet of 25 vessels near a harbor in Cuba right now, just 90 miles away from Miami. This is actually happening right now yet none of the major news agencies are reporting this event.
@@williamstamper442because it's easy to check things like the far right crap you just barfed up. Get a life and get a clue.
*Wow my farts smell really good today*
Is nice for you. 😂
It looks like they need to weld some big cracks on er there buy
Bit of duct tape.
Sadly another classic may have to face retirement.
Hopefully not, but if hull failure turns out to be the cause, that could be a reality.
I doubt they hit anything.the rust probably just finally let go
That's the latest. A crack twelve feet long opened up in her hull all on its own. It's not the rust that kills ships. Its the plates expanding and contracting in the sun and being hammered by waves and springing back. It causes fatigue and makes the metal brittle.
@@GWNorth-db8vn same reason airframes have only so many hours
Pretty simple really. A boat that should NEVER have been even on the water ... literally a rusting hulk of junk ... collapsed in on itself. You can see the ribs of this ship through its hull for christ's sake. This thing was not seaworthy and its owner should be in jail.
Another idiot trying to act like they know what they’re talking about. Great.
It’s not a rusting hunk of junk. The scraped and rust on the surface of the hull is from the ship scraping and bumping against the sides of the locks at Sault St. Marie. The ribs being visible is for the same reason. Look up pictures of other lakers. James R. Barker, for example, a well-maintained vessel built in the late ‘70s has the same appearance. All ships that go through locks will have bumps and scraped to some degree. And it isn’t necessary to shell out loads of money to replace the paint job every time it gets scraped up.
Says the certified marine engineer.
almost Edmund Fitzgerald part 2
I'm pretty sure they hit a submarine. It's the only logical conclusion one could come to..
Looks 👀 like she is suffering from the same thing as me OLD AGE ! 👴 It Sucks
Off too the breakers!
It never almost sank Keep you heading straight.
Amen 🙏
any boat is repairable look at the samson boat co repair of tally ho.The inspection fail only means 'we got more work to do'.
but also you must satisfy crew, sailors are a superstish lot
ship's totaled... time to go.
Have Gumby suit....will travel
Or it hit a Russian Sub?
Rust n Rot?
Metal will rust here if left outside in the rains for months. Can't imagine it being better in salted bathtub that gets stormy with heavy rolling waves. The boats are too long and get hogged to death. They should pull barges with large tugs. Or use cargo hauling submarines/ sealed cylinders.
The North American Great Lakes are FRESH water not salt.
Maybe a Japanese sub?
Oh no
They hit Jimmy Hoffa!!!!
Does not look sea worthy.
Looks can be deceiving. The scraped and bumps on the hull are from its many trips through locks.
China or Russian Submarine
Chinese spy submarine